16:01 <smoser> #startmeeting ubuntu-server-team 16:01 <meetingology> Meeting started Tue Jun 4 16:01:38 2013 UTC. The chair is smoser. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology. 16:01 <meetingology> 16:01 <meetingology> Available commands: #accept #accepted #action #agree #agreed #chair #commands #endmeeting #endvote #halp #help #idea #info #link #lurk #meetingname #meetingtopic #nick #progress #rejected #replay #restrictlogs #save #startmeeting #subtopic #topic #unchair #undo #unlurk #vote #voters #votesrequired 16:01 <smoser> #topic Review ACTION points from previous meeting 16:01 <adam_g> o/ 16:01 <arosales> smoser, I ~still~ need to contact norvald 16:02 <arosales> :-/ 16:02 <arosales> sorry 16:02 <arosales> I _will_ send an email today 16:02 * smoser carried foward. (carried forward) 16:02 <smoser> #ACTION arosales [carried forward] to follow up with Norvald regarding SRU 16:02 * meetingology arosales [carried forward] to follow up with Norvald regarding SRU 16:03 <smoser> there. 16:03 * smoser thanks arosales for the cut and paste commands at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ServerTeam/Meeting/IRCCommands 16:03 <hallyn> +1 16:03 <smoser> #topic Raring Development 16:03 <smoser> #link https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RaringRingtail/ReleaseSchedule 16:04 <smoser> hm.. 16:04 <smoser> where is our url for pretty graphs like https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RaringRingtail/ReleaseSchedule 16:04 <smoser> gah 16:04 <smoser> like 16:04 <roaksoax> o/ 16:04 <smb> Sounds a tad outdated? 16:04 <smoser> http://status.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-s/ 16:04 <arosales> I just updated them, I think another kind person originally made it. 16:04 <arosales> smoser, I think I need to make a topic url 16:04 <smoser> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SaucySalamander/ReleaseSchedule 16:04 <arosales> sorry a topic blueprint 16:04 <smoser> can i action you for that ? 16:04 <arosales> #action arosales create a overview topic bp for servercloud 16:04 * meetingology arosales create a overview topic bp for servercloud 16:05 <smoser> good. 16:05 * arosales think I also volunteered for that last week, running behind on my todos :-( 16:05 <smoser> #subtopic Release Bugs 16:05 <smoser> http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-r-tracking-bug-tasks.html#server 16:06 <smoser> i dont know how relevant that url is at this point in the cycle. 16:06 <smoser> (in addition to the fact that i posted a -r- url again) 16:06 <smoser> http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-s-tracking-bug-tasks.html#server 16:06 <smoser> #topic Blueprints 16:07 <smoser> we need some help from here from arosales, so next week we'll have a pretty graph. 16:07 * arosales will work on that _today_ 16:07 <smoser> ok. so 2 things here. 16:08 <smoser> a.) if you have expected work for 13.04 that is not covered by a blueprint starting with 'servercloud-s-' at https://blueprints.launchpad.net/~davewalker/+specs?role=approver 16:08 <smoser> then please contact myself or jamespage to help you get on that list. 16:09 <smoser> b.) if you have something on that list in some state other than 'Approved', then you should make some effort to change that. 16:09 <smoser> (smoser looks in a mirror and says "I'm talking to you") 16:09 <smoser> other blueprints in such a state are: 16:09 <smoser> servercloud-s-cloud-kvm-on-arm: hallyn 16:10 <smoser> servercloud-s-enterprise-testing: jamespage 16:10 <smoser> servercloud-s-fastpath-install: smoser 16:10 * hallyn not sure what that means. 16:10 <smoser> servercloud-s-interlock: Daviey 16:10 <smoser> servercloud-s-maas-next-steps: roaksoax 16:10 <smoser> servercloud-s-openstack-hypervisor: zul 16:10 <smoser> servercloud-s-openstack-pkg: zul 16:11 <hallyn> smoser: can you please drop servercloud-s-cloud-kvm-on-arm ? 16:11 <smoser> one other one for zul and one for smoser. 16:11 <hallyn> or cani do that, hm 16:11 <zul> can you drop servercloud-s-oepnstack-pkg: its going to be folded into the main openstck blueprint 16:12 <smoser> hm.. 16:12 <smoser> ok. we'll figure out what to do on those. 16:12 <hallyn> thx 16:12 <hallyn> i marked it deferred for now. 16:13 <smoser> just put both of them as 'definition: obsolete' 16:13 <smoser> zul, ^ 16:13 <hallyn> ok 16:13 <zul> ok cool 16:13 <smoser> anyone have anything else here? 16:13 <smoser> #topic Ubuntu Server Team Events 16:14 <smoser> anyone have events coming up ? 16:14 <smoser> ok. i dont. so moving on. 16:14 <smoser> #topic Weekly Updates & Questions for the QA Team (plars) 16:14 <psivaa> i am in for plars today 16:15 <psivaa> nothing much from our side 16:15 <smoser> anyone have questions for psivaa ? 16:15 <smoser> k. moving on. thanks for coming p 16:15 <smoser> k. moving on. thanks for coming psivaa 16:15 <smoser> #topic Weekly Updates & Questions for the Kernel Team (smb) 16:15 <smb> No kernel specific things to report (some user-space issues, though). Maybe I should remind anybody having kernel problems which I should (or am supposed to) be looking at, to remind me (again) if I have not been active on reports. Are there questions? 16:16 <smb> smoser, And I likely will try to talk to you about Xen stable (micro) updates and tech-board at some point later... 16:16 <smb> ... 16:16 <smoser> i dont have anything for you, smb. 16:16 <smoser> sometime, sooner than later, daviey or i or someone needs to look at "medium" sized kernel for server 16:17 <hallyn> smb: do you know if there are any overlayfs work items for kernel? 16:17 <smoser> (ie, one block net and other important-to-server modules, but not "desktop" like drivers) 16:17 <smb> hallyn, I thought apw was doing something 16:17 <hallyn> (there are some (well at least one) open bugs, wondering if fixing them is going to be actively done, or passively waited for) 16:17 <hallyn> if anyone was i assumed it was him :) 16:18 <hallyn> just wondering, i can looka round later 16:18 <smoser> hallyn, you have a list of said bugs ? it would be good to have them collected if nothing else. 16:18 <smoser> i'd be interested in seeing it. 16:18 * smoser has been bit by no inotify support 16:18 <smoser> bug 882147 16:18 <ubottu> bug 882147 in coreutils (Ubuntu) "overlayfs does not implement inotify interfaces correctly" [Undecided,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/882147 16:18 <smb> smoser, The medium size package thing, you probably may be successful in replacing current virtual, but there was not much rejoice for having yet another type 16:18 <hallyn> no not really. and i just deleted the emails 16:19 <smoser> good thinking on deleting stuff, hallyn :) 16:19 <smb> never leave paper trail. :) 16:20 <smoser> smoser, on medium sized, the goal woudl be replace -virtual, but i could see me asking for small medium an large for 13.10, one of which to be dropped for 14.04 16:20 <smoser> #topic Weekly Updates & Questions regarding Ubuntu ARM Server (rbasak) 16:20 <smoser> rbasak, howdy 16:20 <rbasak> Hi 16:20 <rbasak> Nothing to report. Any questions for me? 16:21 <rbasak> I'm looking at a golang FTBFS that affects saucy but not sid 16:21 <smoser> nice. 16:21 <rbasak> That's about all in the ARM world right now. 16:21 <smoser> #topic Open Discussion 16:21 <hallyn> smoser: smb: bug 1098378 16:21 <ubottu> bug 1098378 in linux (Ubuntu Raring) "chroot+overlayfs seems to cause umount mis-behavior" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1098378 16:21 <hallyn> (and bug 1007089) 16:21 <ubottu> bug 1007089 in linux (Ubuntu) "overlayfs alters /proc/self/exe link(s), making result a dead link." [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1007089 16:21 <rbasak> I've applied for Ubuntu server dev upload rights. 16:22 <rbasak> Comments and/or endorsements appreciated: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RobieBasak/ServerDeveloperApplication 16:22 <smoser> hallyn, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bugs?field.tag=overlayfs 16:22 <smb> hallyn, I will fwd them 16:23 <smoser> i just tagged those 3 bugs with 'overlayfs' 16:23 <hallyn> smoser: cool, thanks 16:23 <smoser> oh.. as far as endorsements go... 16:23 * xnox wishes for 882147 (inotify) to be fixed =)))) 16:24 <smoser> caribou, is also seeking contributing developer 16:24 <caribou> smoser: indeed I am 16:25 <smoser> so anyone who's seen his good work (myself included) should feel free/priviledge/expected to update https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LouisBouchard 16:25 * caribou would be honoured :-) 16:25 <smoser> anything else ? 16:26 <smoser> #topic Announce next meeting date and time 16:26 <smoser> this concludes our regularly scheduled program 16:26 <smoser> tune in next week for more exciting server team development 16:26 <rbasak> Thanks for chairing, smoser! 16:26 <smoser> next meeting Tuesday 2013-06-11 at 1600 UTC - #ubuntu-meeting 16:26 <smoser> #endmeeting