14:01:15 <barry> #startmeeting 14:01:15 <meetingology> Meeting started Mon Apr 8 14:01:15 2013 UTC. The chair is barry. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology. 14:01:15 <meetingology> 14:01:15 <meetingology> Available commands: #accept #accepted #action #agree #agreed #chair #commands #endmeeting #endvote #halp #help #idea #info #link #lurk #meetingname #meetingtopic #nick #progress #rejected #replay #restrictlogs #save #startmeeting #subtopic #topic #unchair #undo #unlurk #vote #voters #votesrequired 14:01:20 <barry> !dmb-ping 14:01:20 <ubottu> bdrung, ScottK, Laney, micahg, barry, tumbleweed, stgraber: DMB ping 14:01:29 <tumbleweed> hi 14:01:30 <bdrung> o/ 14:02:28 <barry> i know stgraber and ScottK send apologies. do we have quorum today? 14:03:17 <Laney> ello 14:03:22 <Laney> yeah, seems so 14:03:37 <barry> excellent 14:03:46 <barry> #link https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DeveloperMembershipBoard/Agenda 14:04:14 <barry> #topic Review of previous action items 14:04:25 <barry> Micah to urgently send feedback on Bjorn's PPU application 14:05:08 <barry> do we have any status on this? i think micahg is not here right now 14:05:56 <Laney> he said he hasn't yet done it 14:06:02 <Laney> i think we should give it to someone else ... 14:06:13 <Laney> or otherwise deal with this application 14:06:40 <tumbleweed> bdrung: whould you be able to write it? 14:06:47 <barry> bdrung, i think you'd be the natural next in line for this, since you've been working with him so closely 14:07:09 <tumbleweed> I assume that if someone can get it started, it'd be easy to get some input from micahg. much easier than waiting for him to have time to do it all 14:07:14 <bdrung> hm, i'd rather want someone else write it. 14:07:38 <bdrung> my view has change since i sponsor björn. 14:07:49 <barry> bdrung: in which direction? ;) 14:08:01 <Laney> another option of course would be to reconsider the application without a meeting 14:08:12 <bdrung> barry: in a good direction. 14:08:13 <Laney> I tend to want to defer to bdrung on this 14:09:24 * tumbleweed too 14:09:43 <tumbleweed> if after working with him bdrung thinks he's ready, that'll be enough to get my vote 14:09:49 <barry> bdrung: cool. Laney i agree. i would be willing to bring up a vote on the dmb list, and if there are no objections, i will first email him and dholbach to let them know we are doing it this way. 14:10:11 <Laney> I'd like to hear some kind of summary on how the recent sponsorship has been 14:10:21 <Laney> if bdrung is up for sending that - doesn't have to be long 14:10:37 <bdrung> I can try to write a sponsoring summary. 14:10:47 <barry> bdrung: that's great, thanks 14:10:48 <tumbleweed> Laney: +1 14:11:13 <barry> #action bdrung to write up a short summary of sweetshark's recent sponsorship 14:11:13 * meetingology bdrung to write up a short summary of sweetshark's recent sponsorship 14:11:22 <dholbach> great, good to hear things are moving in a good direction :) 14:11:34 <barry> #action barry to conduct sweetshark ppu vote on ubuntu-dmb list 14:11:34 * meetingology barry to conduct sweetshark ppu vote on ubuntu-dmb list 14:11:39 <Laney> \o/ 14:11:55 <Laney> dholbach: sorry it blocked on the feedback for so long 14:12:26 <barry> dholbach: me too. 14:12:30 <barry> anything else on this topic? 14:12:47 <Laney> seems like a decent direction to me 14:12:47 <tumbleweed> I guess that depends on the contents of bdrung's summary, so not for now, from me 14:12:55 <Laney> someone should let him know what's going on 14:13:09 <tumbleweed> that is what the summary was about... 14:13:11 <barry> Laney: will will do that 14:13:18 <tumbleweed> err feedback 14:13:20 <barry> *i will 14:13:55 <barry> #topic Review any packageset descriptions that have been received (micahg) 14:13:55 <barry> 14:14:07 <tumbleweed> no micahg today... 14:14:08 <Laney> this whole initiative went away 14:14:26 <barry> Laney: should i just remove this item from the agenda then? 14:14:35 <Laney> probably for the best 14:14:41 <barry> will do 14:14:46 <Laney> assuming nobody wants to revive it 14:14:59 <tumbleweed> I'm happy with doing it as-needed 14:15:06 <Laney> pinging all of the packageset teams to get clear criteria for alterations 14:15:14 <tumbleweed> "\you want an addition to a packageset, give us a description" 14:15:17 <Laney> indeed 14:15:28 <barry> which brings us to: 14:15:29 <barry> #topic Package Sets 14:15:58 <barry> we've had a request to add a few things to the zope and schooltool packagesets 14:16:01 <tumbleweed> which reminds me. schooltool and zope don't have great descriptions. but probably good enough 14:16:19 <tumbleweed> I'm +1 on that (as I said in the list) and happy to press the buttons 14:16:33 <Laney> yeah, seems fine. I don't think we need to vote per se 14:16:38 <barry> tumbleweed: no objections from me 14:16:45 <barry> tumbleweed: jfdi :) 14:16:54 <tumbleweed> will do 14:16:56 <bdrung> no objections from me too 14:17:30 <barry> #action tumbleweed to add to zope and schooltool package sets as per menesis request 14:17:30 * meetingology tumbleweed to add to zope and schooltool package sets as per menesis request 14:17:42 <barry> #topic ppu applications 14:17:48 <barry> none for today 14:17:53 <barry> #topic motu applications 14:17:55 <barry> none for today 14:18:02 <barry> #topic core dev applications 14:18:04 <barry> none for today 14:18:21 <barry> #topic any other business 14:18:48 <barry> there was a doodle poll on possibly changing the early meeting's time. have any of the dmb folks here not voted? 14:19:00 <Laney> me 14:19:20 <barry> Laney: please do, then we can lobby for results :) 14:19:56 <Laney> seems like 13UTC wins though, which is fine by me 14:20:24 * Laney clicks zillions of tedious boxes 14:20:37 <barry> micahg is the westmost of us, but only by an hour, so hopefully that will work for him. 14:20:45 <barry> ;) 14:21:03 <barry> does anybody have anything else they'd like to bring up today? 14:21:05 <Laney> there 14:21:20 <Laney> he agreed to that time and the two previous hours too 14:21:21 <Laney> more fool him 14:22:01 <tumbleweed> schooltool + zope done 14:22:06 <Laney> so, the PPU discussion - what's left to do? Read over the log from the previous meeting and the email thread? Is there a proposal? 14:22:11 <Laney> sorry for not having read it yet 14:22:16 <tumbleweed> quickly read it now? 14:22:25 <Laney> the IRC log was hench though :( 14:22:41 <Laney> plus the most involved people aren't here 14:22:46 <tumbleweed> the idea was to get a proposal on the list, then we could vote on it 14:23:17 <Laney> ah yes 14:23:22 <Laney> I probably have to digest this 14:23:31 <tumbleweed> but yes, I'd prefer if everyone who had commented on the proposal was here 14:23:35 <tumbleweed> or at least someone :P 14:23:43 <barry> yeah ;) 14:23:56 <Laney> not sure why that thread is private 14:23:57 <barry> i'll put it on the agenda for next time 14:24:25 <Laney> anyway, micahg: thanks for sending it and I'll read/digest/comment soon 14:24:28 <bdrung> I probably didn't comment the proposal, because I agree with it 14:24:40 <tumbleweed> yeah, same 14:24:46 <barry> same 14:24:55 <Laney> i wrote it on my todo list and everything 14:25:41 <barry> anything else, or are we done for today? 14:26:21 * tumbleweed votes for done 14:26:36 <barry> bdrung: you're up in 2 weeks 14:26:38 <barry> #endmeeting