12:21:44 <Pendulum> #startmeeting 12:21:44 <meetingology> Meeting started Wed Feb 20 12:21:44 2013 UTC. The chair is Pendulum. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology. 12:21:44 <meetingology> 12:21:44 <meetingology> Available commands: #accept #accepted #action #agree #agreed #chair #commands #endmeeting #endvote #halp #help #idea #info #link #lurk #meetingname #meetingtopic #nick #progress #rejected #replay #restrictlogs #save #startmeeting #subtopic #topic #unchair #undo #unlurk #vote #voters #votesrequired 12:21:51 <Pendulum> sorry, it's early here :) 12:21:56 <danialbehzadi> smartboyhw: ! is for commanding the bots in irc 12:22:11 <smartboyhw> danialbehzadi, but # is for the meetinglogy bot to work:) 12:22:30 <Pendulum> Welcome to the Meeting of the 12:00 UTC Membership Board Meeting. 12:22:47 <smartboyhw> :) 12:22:53 <Pendulum> #voters micahg Destine Pendulum cyphermox 12:22:53 <meetingology> Current voters: Destine Pendulum cyphermox micahg 12:23:27 <Pendulum> When we get to your turn as applicant please give us a short introduction to yourself including links to your wiki and launchpage pages. 12:23:53 <smartboyhw> ok 12:23:53 <Pendulum> When voting only board members may vote. 12:24:05 <Pendulum> so now let's finally get started :) 12:24:21 <Pendulum> #topic smartboyhw's application for membership 12:24:27 <jrgifford> YAY smartboyhw! 12:24:30 <Pendulum> smartboyhw: please introduce yourself :) 12:24:30 <smartboyhw> Hello all. 12:24:37 <smartboyhw> I'm smartboyhw, Real name Howard Chan 12:24:43 <smartboyhw> I'm 14 from Hong Kong, China 12:24:50 <smartboyhw> Wiki: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/smartboyhw 12:24:59 <smartboyhw> Launchpad: https://launchpad.net/~smartboyhw 12:25:07 <smartboyhw> I work at different fields for Ubuntu 12:25:22 <smartboyhw> namely QA and packaging 12:25:39 <smartboyhw> In Ubuntu Community QA Team I mostly do ISO testing (I am a lover for it) 12:26:09 <smartboyhw> I am also a Ubuntu Testcase Admin so I also do writing testcases (I did one for Ubuntu Studio, I am currently doing one for transmission) 12:26:18 <smartboyhw> I also help QA in Kubuntu and Ubuntu Studio 12:26:34 <smartboyhw> I am the major QA person in Ubuntu Studio.... Also I help to write some testing docs 12:26:50 <smartboyhw> I also help some development projects 12:26:57 <smartboyhw> Ubuntu Accomplishments is one 12:27:07 <cyphermox> smartboyhw: what things have you packaged/ bugs have you worked on/ merges, etc.? 12:27:18 <smartboyhw> cyphermox, for the package list refer to my wiki:P 12:27:43 <smartboyhw> Namely (currently) calligra, rekonq, rt-tests and libktorrent 12:28:06 <smartboyhw> These are mostly Kubuntu packages since I am now an elite packager for Kubuntu 12:28:43 <smartboyhw> So that's it I think 12:28:53 <smartboyhw> Been contributing to Ubuntu for 8 months 12:29:10 <smartboyhw> .. 12:29:45 <zequence-s> Hi, I'm a Ubuntu Studio developer, and have found smartboyhw's contributions quite valuable, specifically in the QA area, where he's showing very good organizational skills 12:30:20 <Riddell> I fully recommend smartboyhw as an ubuntu member, he's been keen and enthusiastic to help kubuntu for the last few weeks and is now a kubuntu ninja 12:30:22 <smartboyhw> Thanks zequence-s ;D 12:30:26 <smartboyhw> Thanks Riddell too 12:31:29 <jrgifford> I'm a Ask Ubuntu community moderator, and while he didn't mention it, he is one of our active users. 12:31:54 <jrgifford> and I highly recommend him for ubuntu membership. 12:31:58 <smartboyhw> Thanks jrgifford :) 12:33:02 * apachelogger recommends elite kubuntu ninja 12:33:10 <smartboyhw> Thanks apachelogger 12:34:05 <smartboyhw> .. 12:35:32 <Tm_T> I recommend smartboyhw also, have seen him being rather active on Kubuntu side (: 12:35:46 <smartboyhw> Thanks Tm_T 12:35:53 <Pendulum> Okay, ready to vote 12:35:59 <smartboyhw> ! 12:36:13 <Pendulum> #vote smartboyhw's application for membership 12:36:13 <meetingology> Please vote on: smartboyhw's application for membership 12:36:13 <meetingology> Public votes can be registered by saying +1, +0 or -1 in channel, (private votes don't work yet, but when they do it will be by messaging the channel followed by +1/-1/+0 to me) 12:36:46 <Pendulum> +1 good testimonials this time around :) 12:36:46 <meetingology> +1 good testimonials this time around :) received from Pendulum 12:36:48 <Destine> +1 Please keep up the good work! :) 12:36:48 <meetingology> +1 Please keep up the good work! :) received from Destine 12:36:54 <cyphermox> +1 12:36:54 <meetingology> +1 received from cyphermox 12:37:24 <micahg> +1 good work 12:37:24 <meetingology> +1 good work received from micahg 12:38:05 <codeadi> +1 12:38:27 <smartboyhw> codeadi, you can't vote, only the Ubuntu membership board can:P 12:38:38 <codeadi> okay 12:39:25 <Pendulum> #endvote 12:39:25 <meetingology> Voting ended on: smartboyhw's application for membership 12:39:25 <meetingology> Votes for:4 Votes against:0 Abstentions:0 12:39:25 <meetingology> Motion carried 12:39:31 <smartboyhw> YAY! 12:39:34 <Pendulum> smartboyhw: congrats and welcome! 12:39:46 <smartboyhw> Thanks! 12:40:05 <smartboyhw> Thanks to Riddell apachelogger jrgifford codeadi zequence-s Tm_T :) 12:40:11 <Destine> smartboyhw, congrats~! 12:40:21 <apachelogger> gz 12:40:54 <Pendulum> dosaboy: you're Edward Hope-Morley, correct? 12:41:01 <dosaboy> yes 12:41:11 <Pendulum> (just double checking since it isn't the IRC nick you put on the application page) 12:41:21 <Pendulum> okay, dosaboy, you're up 12:41:30 <Pendulum> #topic dosaboy for Ubuntu Membership 12:41:38 * dosaboy definitely does not have as impressive a resume as smartboyhw 12:41:42 <Pendulum> dosaboy: please introduce yourself 12:41:45 <dosaboy> ok so I am Ed Hope-Morley 12:41:46 <smartboyhw> dosaboy, no worries:) 12:41:47 <jpds> dosaboy++ 12:41:51 <dosaboy> based in the UK 12:42:16 <dosaboy> I've been using ubuntu for many years and I have been working on the Openstack project for the last 2 1/2 years 12:42:23 <dosaboy> ubuntu-based 12:42:44 <dosaboy> I have recently joined a team that maintains ubunut packages for openstack 12:42:53 <dosaboy> and I am now contributing 12:43:27 <dosaboy> I will be working on LTS and upstream support 12:43:46 <ivoks> dosaboy's work till how has been mostly testing (QA) of openstack on ubuntu, but all the work he does eventually ends up in ubuntu, so ++ from me, if that counts for anything 12:44:00 <dosaboy> and that's kind of all I can say atm 12:44:08 <zul> ++ from me as well 12:44:17 <dosaboy> thanks ivoks, zul 12:44:30 <dosaboy> oh and my wiki page is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdwardHope-Morley 12:49:05 <Pendulum> dosaboy: why are you interested in becoming a member? 12:50:48 <dosaboy> if the opportunity arises for decisions to be taken on Openstack strategy it would be nice to have a say and contribute if I can and as I understand it being a member of the project would help this. 12:51:33 <cjohnston> dosaboy: I believe openstack has their own memership of sorts 12:52:14 <cjohnston> dosaboy: http://www.openstack.org/foundation/ I think your referring to foundation membership 12:52:45 <dosaboy> agreed but openstack's ineterests may not always be alleiged with ubuntu 12:52:58 <dosaboy> whereas mine are :) 12:53:21 <Pendulum> dosaboy: how long have you been contributing to Ubuntu? 12:53:36 <zul> cjohnston: ubuntu memebership and openstack foundation are two different things 12:54:03 <dosaboy> I only starting contributing to ubuntu last month, as I have only just joined the team 12:54:37 <cjohnston> zul: if the opportunity arises for decisions to be taken on Openstack strategy it would be nice to have a say and contribute if I can and as I understand it being a member of the project would help this." -- It seems to me that dosaboy believes that Ubuntu Membership would help him with something 12:55:01 <ivoks> openstack strategy within ubuntu 12:55:15 <cjohnston> Ubuntu Membership still has nothing to do with that. 12:55:19 <micahg> dosaboy: have you read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Membership ? 12:55:53 <dosaboy> um, yes 12:56:13 <cjohnston> Ubuntu Membership is awarded (or given) in recognition of sustained contributions to Ubuntu. I have never been asked as an Ubuntu Member to vote on something related to Openstack. 12:56:43 <ivoks> his contribution in ubuntu is in realm of openstack... he's a server engineer 12:56:50 <micahg> dosaboy: so, you feel that you've already significant and sustained contribution to Ubuntu and the Ubuntu community? 12:56:54 <cjohnston> ivoks: I understnad that. 12:57:00 <ivoks> for istance, an SRU he filled few days ago 12:57:20 <cjohnston> ivoks: I understand that as well.i 12:57:21 <Pendulum> Generally we see "sustained" as 6 months or more of contributions 12:57:50 <dosaboy> micahg: I openly admit I do/have not got the contribution history but I am ffor that forthwith. If you would prefer that I retrun once I have said contribution history that is fine by me. 12:58:04 <micahg> ivoks: SRU is development work which this board only treats as tangential to the application, if packaging work is the primary source of contribution, then an application to the DMB is more appropriate 12:59:12 <Pendulum> dosaboy: Ubuntu membership is based on having already contributed and showing that it's been sustained over time. You do not need it to contribute to any facet of the project. Please come back when you've spent more time contributing. :) 12:59:26 <dosaboy> I was under the impression that maintaining and testing packages for ubuntu would qualify me for membership :) 12:59:33 <dosaboy> ok sure 12:59:57 <cjohnston> dosaboy: it would. After it has 1) been sustained, and 2) for that you should probably apply to the DMB 13:00:06 <dosaboy> ack 13:00:25 <micahg> well, if it's mainly QA, I'd say here, if it's mainly packaging, the DMB 13:00:35 <cjohnston> what micahg said 13:01:07 <dosaboy> well it is definitely more QA than packaging 13:01:50 <dosaboy> e.g. testing upstream patches and backporting 13:02:12 <Pendulum> just so we can fit the last person in 13:02:23 <Pendulum> danialbehzadi: are you here? 13:02:36 <danialbehzadi> Pendulum: yes 13:02:53 <Pendulum> #topic danialbehzadi for Ubuntu membership 13:02:59 <Pendulum> danialbehzadi: please introduce yourself :) 13:03:03 <danialbehzadi> Hi 13:03:09 <danialbehzadi> I am Danial Behzadi, 23 from Iran 13:03:15 <danialbehzadi> A computer software engineer and a member of Ubuntu-ir loco team, forum oderator, and web team 13:03:21 <danialbehzadi> My launchpad link: https://launchpad.net/~dani.behzi 13:03:28 <danialbehzadi> My Wiki link: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/danialbehzadi 13:03:35 <danialbehzadi> My first experience in GNU/Linux was in 2003 by a debian-based distro name "Linspire" 13:03:44 <danialbehzadi> But my complete migration to free software was in 2007 by Ubuntu 7.10 gutsy 13:03:57 <danialbehzadi> Trough these year I am a member of Ubuntu-ir community and Free Software Users Group of Iran and we tried so hard to make people of all kinds, familiar with software freedoom consept. 13:04:07 <danialbehzadi> So we made a lot of meetings, celebrations, seminars, free educational classes, and even TV-shows to reach that goal. 13:04:20 <danialbehzadi> Then I thought about the reasons which reduces GNU/Linux grow speed in my country, and I belive the language problem is the prime reson. 13:04:30 <danialbehzadi> So, I joined to the translation and localization groups of Ubuntu (in launchpad) and Gnome (in gnome.org) and started to make free software localize for Iran. 13:04:39 <danialbehzadi> You can See the results in https://translations.launchpad.net/ubuntu/raring/+lang/fa and http://l10n.gnome.org/languages/fa/gnome-3-6/ui/ 13:04:49 <danialbehzadi> and compare them to previous two years, before I manage to translate them. 13:04:57 <danialbehzadi> And I am also the forum moderator of Ubuntu-ir as mentioned before (http://forum.ubuntu.ir/index.php?action=profile;u=3026). 13:05:03 <danialbehzadi> We manage the community in Iran and comparing to other local teams in various locations, I think that is one the most active local team of Ubuntu. 13:08:34 <Pendulum> danialbehzadi: is there anyone around who could cheer for you? We like to see support by way of testimonials and/or cheering during the meeting. 13:09:28 <danialbehzadi> I'm not sure, maybe dholbach? We met twice in Isfahan, Iran and Berlin, Germany. 13:10:03 <smartboyhw> danialbehzadi, that's interesting 13:10:19 <dholbach> yes, I met danialbehzadi and could see in Esfahan how much he is involved in the LoCo there 13:10:53 <dholbach> it was during Software Freedom Day where we met and thanks to him (and others) I also could give a talk there :) 13:11:01 <micahg> danialbehzadi: are there any Persian translation admins that can vouch for the quality of your translations? 13:12:03 <danialbehzadi> I am myself a Persian transltion admin in launchpad (https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-l10n-fa) 13:12:22 <micahg> danialbehzadi: you're a member, not an admin 13:12:26 <danialbehzadi> But there is no translator present here now 13:12:27 <micahg> AFAICT 13:13:19 <danialbehzadi> Ok. I thought this is for tranlator members (https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-l10n-fa-contributors) 13:13:51 <micahg> ah, is that the hierarchy of translations teams 13:14:25 <danialbehzadi> yes 13:15:17 <dholbach> https://fbcdn-sphotos-e-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/155490_1714044137190_4364071_n.jpg was the best picture I could find - Danial is right in front of me :) 13:15:18 <micahg> danialbehzadi: sorry, translations is one area that I'm not so familiar with 13:18:40 <dholbach> since we met in Esfahan we got a bit out of touch, but I could see on Facebook and and Google+ that he still was very much involved in Ubuntu Iran - and that's been constantly in the last two years 13:18:50 <dholbach> I hope that helps... I need to go outside now, sorry 13:25:36 <Pendulum> Okay, time for us to vote 13:25:45 <Pendulum> #vote danialbehzadi for Ubuntu Membership 13:25:45 <meetingology> Please vote on: danialbehzadi for Ubuntu Membership 13:25:45 <meetingology> Public votes can be registered by saying +1, +0 or -1 in channel, (private votes don't work yet, but when they do it will be by messaging the channel followed by +1/-1/+0 to me) 13:26:30 <Pendulum> +1 13:26:30 <meetingology> +1 received from Pendulum 13:27:39 <micahg> +1 based on dholbach + awesome translation work 13:27:39 <meetingology> +1 based on dholbach + awesome translation work received from micahg 13:27:47 <Destine> +1 13:27:47 <meetingology> +1 received from Destine 13:28:51 <cyphermox> +1 13:28:51 <meetingology> +1 received from cyphermox 13:29:03 <Pendulum> #endvote 13:29:03 <meetingology> Voting ended on: danialbehzadi for Ubuntu Membership 13:29:03 <meetingology> Votes for:4 Votes against:0 Abstentions:0 13:29:03 <meetingology> Motion carried 13:29:08 <smartboyhw> Congrats danialbehzadi 13:29:09 <Pendulum> danialbehzadi: congrats and welcome! 13:29:25 <danialbehzadi> smartboyhw: Pendulum: thanks 13:29:35 <Destine> danialbehzadi, congrats! 13:30:03 <danialbehzadi> Destine: thanks 13:30:07 <ivoks> danialbehzadi, smartboyhw congrats 13:30:16 <danialbehzadi> ivoks: thank you 13:30:35 <smartboyhw> Thanks ivoks 13:31:02 <Pendulum> Thanks everyone for being patient with us! 13:31:07 <Pendulum> #endmeeting