#title #ubuntu-meeting: Ubuntu TV weekly meeting Meeting started by tgm4883 at 18:05:07 UTC. The full logs are available at http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2013/ubuntu-meeting.2013-01-04-18.05.log.html . == Meeting summary == *Open Floor ''ACTION:'' tgm4883 (tgm4883, 18:13:42) Meeting ended at 18:36:48 UTC. == Votes == == Action items == * tgm4883 == Action items, by person == * tgm4883 ** tgm4883 == People present (lines said) == * tgm4883 (41) * mhall119 (31) * CrestedNewt (17) * meetingology (4) == Full Log == 18:05:07 #startmeeting Ubuntu TV weekly meeting 18:05:07 Meeting started Fri Jan 4 18:05:07 2013 UTC. The chair is tgm4883. 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I don't see him 18:06:29 we pinged him, but I didn't see him around 18:06:56 Since there is nothing on the agenda, I'll open the floor to anyone that has anything to say and/or questions or comments 18:07:03 #topic Open Floor 18:07:32 so, given the holidays since our last meeting, there probably isn't anything new to discuss 18:07:44 mhall119, my guess as well 18:07:46 Do we know the current status of development? 18:07:55 ie - where are we? 18:08:05 except, well, omg! Phone! 18:08:23 CrestedNewt, I'm not aware of the current status of the non-mythtv parts 18:08:29 Ubuntu Phone is to be discussed later :D 18:08:35 CrestedNewt: I know bobweaver has been experimenting with different things on the old unity2d code 18:08:43 I don't know if anything new has been done on the unity 3d port 18:09:11 OK, just so that I get this right ..... 18:09:21 tgm4883: how is the MythTV scope work going? 18:09:29 Bobweaver is working on the old 2D platform 18:09:40 CrestedNewt: he's been working on both 18:09:51 and he is hoping to have a stable platform with which to move forwards? 18:09:59 he's been porting to Unity 3d, but still using the 2d code for prototyping 18:10:07 The main scope is great. Playback of content works nicely and looks good 18:10:13 the guide data parts though.... 18:10:23 CrestedNewt: that's the goal, yes 18:10:44 mhall119 - ok that's good news 18:10:49 tgm4883: the main scopes searches already recorded stuff? 18:11:11 Currently I'm seeing if upstream will add some stuff to the API so I don't have to do a query on each show just to get description 18:11:25 mhall119, yes, that part works great 18:11:59 tgm4883: you can always just use the title in the search results, and only query for the description if they open it in a preview 18:12:16 I need to move the servicesapi.py file to it's own package though so I can separate the guide and playback scopes 18:12:40 mhall119, yea that is what I have it doing now, but then you can only search title/subtitle 18:12:42 tgm4883: cool 18:13:12 But I'm not adding description back in unless I can get it to a reasonable run time 18:13:17 tgm4883: maybe you can put a bit in the next blog post about your progress and how people can help you with it 18:13:42 #action tgm4883 18:13:42 * meetingology tgm4883 18:13:59 any screenshot of the TV UI, even the old 2d one, showing results from MythTV would cause some excitement too 18:14:20 yea I need to work with bobweaver to get a TV UI setup for that 18:14:27 or have him do a couple screenshots 18:15:47 Any ideas on what we can do with the new phone & SDK to capitalize on some of that buzz for the TV? 18:16:05 * tgm4883 shrugs 18:16:09 I haven't looked at phone much 18:16:32 it's pretty cool, and the SDK is something that people should use to write TV apps too 18:17:05 I'll talk to bobweaver about maybe getting some screenshots of the example app running on the TV UI, see if it's worth talking about 18:18:11 it's QML, so bobweaver should be happy 18:18:49 OK, in the UK atm there is a push on http://www.youview.com/features/ and http://go.sky.com/vod/page/tvListing.do 18:18:51 yeah, he's already been in #ubuntu-phone 18:19:47 the sky solution allows video on the move .... but it requires silverlight 18:19:52 tgm4883: your guide scope, is that using MythTV as it's backend? 18:20:00 mhall119, yes 18:20:29 and can MythTV use the sources CrestedNewt just mentioned? 18:21:00 mhall119, err, it's not like that 18:21:42 mhall119, so you can think of mythtv similar to how we're thinking about ubuntu tv (or vice versa). Mythtv has a backend and a frontend (in the case of Ubuntu TV, we're basically just making a UTV a frontend) 18:22:04 any online sources and such that mythtv could use, would be mythtv frontend plugins 18:22:15 which don't make sense here, we'd just make them unity scopes 18:22:40 unless i'm not understanding what these things are 18:23:13 oh, ok, so tv guides aren't being stored in the backend? 18:23:33 both of the sites I posted are 'historical' VOD services.... I was just thinking about the tie in with ubuntu_phone 18:23:45 yes, the tv guide is stored in the backend, but this looks to be more than just a tv guide 18:24:06 oh, ok 18:24:28 no probs - I just thought that I would clear that up :D 18:24:33 I was mostly interested in just the tv guide data, if MythTV can support multiple sources, then we only need a single source to get it out of MythTV 18:24:52 makes our job easier that way 18:25:25 mhall119, you should get guide data from the same place that you are scheduling recordings 18:25:29 so in this case, mythtv 18:26:05 mythtv supports schedules direct and XMLTV I think 18:26:30 ok 18:26:39 well, and EPG 18:26:43 but that sucks in the US 18:27:59 so with mythtv, you can have multiple sources, and you might have a different set of guide data for each source (which is why I say tie the two together) 18:28:35 from the UTV POV, the only source if mythtv (and mythtv figures out all the other important stuff) 18:29:45 sounds good to me 18:29:55 yea the more I look at youview, the more it sounds like it should be a scope 18:30:03 OK, blue sky stuff here for future discussion but I think that it needs to be noted somewhere..... Sky offer this planner http://tv.sky.com/tv-guide#/day/0 and you can then decide to record from this service as well as getting more programme information. The record function is only available if you are a Sky subscriber. DO NOTHING WITH THIS YET but views for later on would be good. 18:31:19 CrestedNewt: where does that record it to? your local hardware, or something on their network? 18:31:58 sends a signal through satellite to your box which has a viewing card. These are linked to your username 18:32:11 ah, ok 18:32:29 looks like there is a sky DVR box too 18:32:32 with storage 18:33:00 yes - the top of range box has 1080i output and a 1 TB HDD 18:35:21 alright, any other topics to discuss? 18:35:31 I've got none 18:35:53 I have none - other than I need to get something to document :D 18:36:17 alright, I'll try and get some information from Canonical's side about how the new Phone stuff might be impacting the TV, and vice-versa, to see how it all should fit together 18:36:27 and we'll get with bobweaver when he's online for some screenshots and stuff 18:36:36 sounds good 18:36:37 mhall119 - good man!! 18:36:44 alright, thanks guys! 18:36:48 #endmeeting Generated by MeetBot 0.1.5 (http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology)