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16:02:59 <Daviey> #topic Review ACTION points from previous meeting
16:03:15 <Daviey> move to http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-r-tracking-bug-tasks.html#server for release bug tracking
16:03:27 <Daviey> jamespage: ^ this has been done?
16:03:46 <jamespage> yep
16:03:49 <Daviey> cool
16:03:53 <Daviey> move to http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-r-tracking-bug-tasks.html#server for release bug tracking
16:03:58 <Daviey> -- Who was this assigned to?
16:03:59 <arosales> I updated the IRC command list just before the meeting
16:04:20 <Daviey> arosales: eh?
16:04:54 <arosales> Daviey: I think the first two were team info on tracking
16:05:08 <Daviey> Oh.. well deprecate http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/ubuntu-server/release-bugs.html hasn't been done
16:05:10 <arosales> the 3rd action item was for me to update the irc command for server meetings
16:05:40 <Daviey> So, i'll do that.. as i already have access.
16:05:41 * arosales apologizes for not putting an owner with that.
16:05:57 <Daviey> arosales: thanks... oh, don't worry
16:06:01 <arosales> #action Daviey to deprecate http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/ubuntu-server/release-bugs.html
16:06:01 * meetingology Daviey to deprecate http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/ubuntu-server/release-bugs.html
16:06:01 <Daviey> roaksoax to review MAAS bugs, and sync with upstream
16:06:02 <arosales> :-)
16:06:08 <Daviey> heh
16:06:26 <Daviey> so, roaksoax is out.. But it seems to be making progress
16:06:43 <Daviey> hmm, no Robie
16:07:53 <Daviey> rbasak, on the agenda was "roaksoax to review MAAS bugs, and sync with upstream" .. as he is out today.. are you close enough to know how this is going?
16:08:16 <rbasak> I'm not familiar with the current packaging status, sorry
16:09:03 <Daviey> rbasak: ok, thanks.. it was a long shot.
16:09:23 <Daviey> #action Daviey to check with upstream how MAAS bugs are looking
16:09:23 * meetingology Daviey to check with upstream how MAAS bugs are looking
16:09:34 <Daviey> arosales to investigate why status tracker is not picking up servercloud area
16:10:08 <Daviey> arosales: ^?
16:10:53 <arosales> I think we may have missed the cut-off date
16:11:18 * arosales to follow up with release team on getting the topic blueprints ack'ed back into the status tracker
16:11:23 <Daviey> Hmm, that sounds crappy :)
16:11:28 <arosales> I think release team freezes at feature freeze
16:11:51 <Daviey> #action arosales to follow up with release team on getting the topic blueprints ack'ed back into the status tracker
16:11:51 * meetingology arosales to follow up with release team on getting the topic blueprints ack'ed back into the status tracker
16:12:01 <Daviey> arosales: thanks
16:12:03 <arosales> I *think* that is the issue, but yes I will follow up :-)
16:12:07 <Daviey> jamespage, arosales confirm if https://blueprints.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-server/+upcomingwork should be used in ubuntu-server team IRC meeting for BP status
16:12:35 <arosales> sorry /me didn't have an opportunity to sync up with jamespage
16:12:40 <jamespage> we did not
16:12:43 <arosales> anyone have any thoughts on that?
16:12:57 <Daviey> ok
16:13:02 <jamespage> but as we don't have stuff setup in status.ubuntu.com I think we should use that for the time being
16:13:20 <Daviey> the trouble is ~ubuntu-server has too much noise
16:13:29 <Daviey> it includes people that happen to be in the largely open team
16:13:46 <Daviey> including juju-core, security and probably foundations issues
16:14:17 <arosales> al valid points.
16:14:22 <arosales> all, that is
16:14:28 <arosales> so perhaps that is not a good approach
16:15:27 <jamespage> I think its a useful view from individuals i.e. launchpad.net/~james-page/+upcomingwork
16:15:32 <Daviey> yeah
16:15:59 <Daviey> doesn't scale well for non canonical people tho. :).  Not sure how many non-canonical people signed up to wi's this cycle tho
16:16:03 <Daviey> i know there are some.
16:16:42 <Daviey> #topic Raring development
16:16:52 <Daviey> Release Bugs - http://reports.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/ubuntu-server/release-bugs.html
16:17:20 <Daviey> Is this not deprecated now?
16:17:25 <Daviey> jamespage: ^?
16:17:36 <jamespage> yes
16:17:36 <jamespage> http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-r-tracking-bug-tasks.html#server
16:17:56 * Daviey notes to update the wiki
16:18:07 <Daviey> bug 1081212
16:18:09 <ubottu> Launchpad bug 1081212 in maas (Ubuntu Quantal) "The address of the API in pserv.conf (tftp/generator) is http://localhost/MAAS/api/1.0/pxeconfig/" [Critical,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1081212
16:18:26 <jamespage> I need to catchup with the report author on that report - as I don't think its the full packageset.
16:18:32 <Daviey> So.. I'm actually going to skip all the maas bugs.. as the best person to answer them is not here this week.
16:18:50 <Daviey> jamespage: right
16:18:51 <jamespage> Daviey, TBH they are all in hand upstream; so that is a good approach
16:19:04 <jamespage> its just dependent on the 1.2 stablisation release being delivered
16:19:06 <jamespage> ~Jan
16:19:11 <Daviey> bug 1076747
16:19:13 <ubottu> Launchpad bug 1076747 in quantum (Ubuntu Raring) "The Quantum OVS plugin should not depend on openvswitch-switch " [High,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1076747
16:19:26 <jamespage> committed in the lab; not broken in the archive
16:19:37 <jamespage> trunk broke for a bit in raring
16:19:46 * jamespage rewinds
16:20:03 <jamespage> wrong bug - that one is commited in the lab for the next raring upload
16:20:09 <Daviey> ok, cool
16:20:09 <jamespage> ..
16:20:10 <Daviey> bug 1085038
16:20:12 <ubottu> Launchpad bug 1085038 in quantum (Ubuntu Raring) "Python Modules : Wrong versions" [High,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1085038
16:20:22 <jamespage> see my incorrect comments
16:20:28 <jamespage> <jamespage> committed in the lab; not broken in the archive
16:20:28 <jamespage> trunk broke for a bit in raring
16:20:49 <Daviey> bug 671065
16:20:50 <ubottu> Launchpad bug 671065 in dovecot (Ubuntu) "deliver broken because dovecot.conf uses !include_try" [Medium,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/671065
16:20:55 * jamespage hides
16:21:03 * Daviey looks at the report date
16:21:07 <jamespage> sorry - I started looking at that one and got distracted
16:21:42 <Daviey> heh
16:21:56 <Daviey> looks like it's in progress, with a patch needing forward porting?
16:22:41 <jamespage> yeah
16:22:46 <jamespage> hence why I hid
16:22:50 <Daviey> heh
16:23:02 * jamespage berates himself for being slack about that one
16:23:07 <Daviey> heh
16:23:10 <Daviey> bug 1066845 - zul?
16:23:12 <ubottu> Launchpad bug 1066845 in nova (Ubuntu Raring) "nova-novncproxy is not running; Suggest: novnc should be Depends" [Low,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1066845
16:23:24 <zul> ill update it
16:24:02 <Daviey> bug 1086833 - yolanda.  Seems to be making good progress
16:24:04 <ubottu> Launchpad bug 1086833 in nova (Ubuntu Raring) "All nova upstart configuration use 'su' instead of 'start-stop-daemon'" [Medium,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1086833
16:24:16 * Daviey repeats, as the devil is here
16:24:17 <Daviey> bug 1086833 - yolanda.  Seems to be making good progress
16:24:48 <Daviey> ubottu> Launchpad bug 1086833 in nova (Ubuntu Raring) "All nova upstart configuration use 'su' instead of 'start-stop-daemon'" [Medium,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1086833
16:24:48 <ubottu> Daviey: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)
16:25:12 <Daviey> Any other bugs that are release trackable?
16:25:38 <Daviey> ok
16:25:40 <Daviey> Blueprints - http://status.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-quantal/group/topic-raring-servercloud-overview.html
16:25:50 <jamespage> I'm sure there are plenty - please can everyone remember to raise tasks for raring - that way they get on the report
16:25:58 <Daviey> 404 :)
16:26:04 <Daviey> thanks jamespage
16:26:11 <Daviey> so.. blueprints.
16:26:21 <Daviey> smoser, jamespage and myself have been going through them
16:26:37 <Daviey> Generally, they are looking good.. but there are a bunch that needed some work
16:26:41 <Daviey> Comments were made
16:26:51 <Daviey> (at least for the ones i am approver for)
16:27:07 <Daviey> I didn't really dig into the ones arosales is approver for.. can you comment on yours?
16:27:38 <arosales> we still need to properly spec out a few
16:27:44 <arosales> but no comments here
16:27:55 <Daviey> ok.
16:28:09 <Daviey> so.. servercloud-r-openstack-docs - koolhead17.. needs work.. empty spec so far
16:28:35 <Daviey> servercloud-r-openstack-sru - zul - is it rich enough in detail?
16:28:45 <zul> yes
16:29:01 <Daviey> are you certain? :)
16:29:38 <Daviey> (hint)
16:29:39 <Daviey> servercloud-r-userns - hallyn - requested to be dropped, merged with another.
16:30:00 <hallyn> yup
16:30:13 <Daviey> servercloud-r-virt-powerpc - BenC - Currently empty, if still null by EOW, will drop.
16:31:02 <Daviey> servercloud-r-webscale - SpamapS - Think this needs a new owner?  Not yet confirmed with Clint, but assuming it does, any volunteer?
16:31:23 <Daviey> (apply via a self addressed envelope to my PO BOX address)
16:31:26 <jamespage> Daviey, throw that one at me; I'll hack it back and do the essentials
16:31:34 <Daviey> j\o/)
16:31:43 <smoser> nice, mr page.
16:31:48 <Daviey> done.
16:32:59 * jamespage gets the hachett out
16:33:02 <jamespage> chop chop chop[
16:33:24 <Daviey> heh..
16:33:27 <Daviey> #topic Ubuntu Server Team Events
16:33:37 <Daviey> No events are jumping out at me?
16:33:58 <Daviey> robbiew @ Dell World, Austin tomorrow.. doing an awesome talk first thing..
16:34:16 <arosales> Lisa this week
16:34:25 <arosales> I think negronjl is giving a BOF there
16:35:06 <robbiew> yeah..."awesome" indeed
16:35:11 <robbiew> not even on the schedule :/
16:35:12 <robbiew> lol
16:35:50 <Daviey> #topic Weekly Updates & Questions for the QA Team (hggdh)
16:36:04 <Daviey> hggdh or anyone from QA here to represent ?
16:36:22 * Daviey crosses his fingers.
16:36:28 <jamespage> Daviey, actually I have something
16:36:49 <jamespage> dholbach has organized an autopkgtest hackfest this thursday
16:37:09 <Daviey> Oh yes!
16:37:16 <jamespage> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/QATeam/RequiredTests
16:37:19 <jamespage> for the list of tests
16:37:51 <jamespage> and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/QATeam/AutomatedTesting/Hackfest
16:37:54 <jamespage> for the details
16:38:16 <dholbach> feel free to update and add to the pages
16:38:25 <dholbach> and obviously be there in #ubuntu-quality on Thursday
16:38:26 <jamespage> would be nice to see everyone knock of at least one test; these are a good opportunity to put other things down for a few hours and focus on something specific
16:38:31 <Daviey> thanks dholbach for organising this!
16:38:47 <jamespage> thanks dholbach
16:38:52 <Daviey> jamespage: Annnnnnd.. where can i find a list of tests that need writing ?
16:38:55 <dholbach> I might grab you for an hangout-on-air where you can show off some of your work and get people involved
16:38:56 <dholbach> anytime
16:39:01 <Daviey> <--- stooge
16:39:05 <jamespage> Daviey, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/QATeam/RequiredTests
16:39:09 <jamespage> we also have a blueprint
16:39:14 <dholbach> there'll be 2 more hackfests this cycle
16:39:22 <jamespage> https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/servercloud-r-seeded-qa-workflow
16:39:24 <Daviey> jamespage: thanks
16:39:38 <Daviey> Nobody from QA, and nothing else to add?
16:39:54 <jamespage> ...
16:40:05 <dholbach> (and here's how to write tests: http://developer.ubuntu.com/packaging/html/auto-pkg-test.html)
16:40:11 <Daviey> \o/
16:40:19 <Daviey> #topic Weekly Updates & Questions for the Kernel Team (smb)
16:40:21 <smb> Not much to report this week. Done some pulling of Xen sercurity
16:40:21 <smb> updates. Also updated the http://people.canonical.com/~smb/lucid-ec2-ng
16:40:21 <smb> kernels after master had been updated. Did some testing on a c1.medium
16:40:21 <smb> instance where I saw no issues. Have not heard any reports other than
16:40:21 <smb> cc1 (=HVM) instance does not work which was not working with the ec2
16:40:22 <smb> branch either. ;)
16:40:24 <smb> ..
16:40:34 <Daviey> wow, smb, as efficient as ever
16:40:48 <smb> As long as I can prepare... :)
16:41:12 <Daviey> There is an ongoing conversation of the kernel version for precise, next point release.  More details to follow next week.
16:41:25 <Daviey> Any kernel questions for smb?
16:41:25 <smb> Daviey, In that case without me
16:41:45 <Daviey> smb: You are AWOL next week? :o
16:41:54 <smb> Daviey, This is my last working week this year. :-P
16:42:06 <Daviey> smb: glad to hear it :)
16:42:08 <Daviey> smb: Are you looking to handle the xen merge?
16:42:25 <smb> Daviey, which xen merge?
16:42:34 <Daviey> THE xen merge.
16:43:04 <smb> Daviey, You mean the xen-4.2 + qemu-dm which is uploaded to proposed?
16:43:09 <Daviey> 4.1.3-3ubuntu1 -> 4.1.3-6
16:43:35 <Daviey> or experimental ? http://packages.debian.org/changelogs/pool/main/x/xen/current/changelog
16:43:52 <smb> Daviey, Since when do we do this for SRU?
16:44:04 <Daviey> I have NFI why it's in experimental.. could just be because Debian are in freeze.. or could be more
16:44:13 <Daviey> smb: raring. :)
16:44:22 <smb> Daviey, Well raring will be 4.2!
16:44:32 <smb> And that is in proposed
16:44:38 <Daviey> Ah!
16:44:50 <Daviey> Again, more efficient than i could hope for.
16:44:51 <Daviey> :)
16:44:58 <smb> Heh
16:45:03 <Daviey> Do we know what is keeping it in raring-proposed?
16:45:51 <smb> I think it was xcp-xapi which zul was trying to thake care of
16:46:07 <zul> yeah im almost done
16:46:25 <Daviey> #ACTION zul and smb to work together to get xen in raring-release
16:46:25 * meetingology zul and smb to work together to get xen in raring-release
16:46:28 <Daviey> thanks
16:46:32 <Daviey> Anything else for smb?
16:46:44 <Daviey> thank you smb
16:46:47 <Daviey> #topic Weekly Updates & Questions regarding Ubuntu ARM Server (rbasak)
16:46:48 <rbasak> I'm working on verifying a quantal SRU, as ARM server installers are currently completely broken on quantal at the moment. This is bug 1084106. Nothing else to report. Any questions for me?
16:46:50 <ubottu> Launchpad bug 1084106 in The Eilt project "highbank installer broken" [Undecided,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1084106
16:47:51 <Daviey> rbasak: maas & arm looking good?
16:48:09 <Daviey> for the hope-for'd SRU's?
16:48:48 <rbasak> I believe it was working well as of three days ago. I've not checked for my last change being SRU'd, but we don't need that until our next hardware enablement which I don't think will happen for a couple of weeks at least.
16:49:03 <Daviey> Super, thanks rbasak. :)
16:49:10 <Daviey> #topic Open Discussion
16:49:16 <Daviey> Anything else pending?
16:49:27 <zul> i still like turles
16:50:01 * rbasak likes turles too
16:50:19 <rbasak> (BTW, what are turles? :-P
16:50:24 <m_3> turtles? huh?
16:50:28 * TheLordOfTime yawns
16:51:01 <smoser> rbasak, cloud-init SRU landed in precise-proposed
16:51:04 <rbasak> \o/
16:51:15 <Daviey> woot
16:51:17 <rbasak> I did wonder about that
16:51:18 <smoser> so the "arm mirror" stuff should "just owrk" now.
16:51:23 <smoser> that is thanks to mr slangasek
16:51:45 <rbasak> smoser: will you be dropping the ephemeral image hack when that's in?
16:51:54 <smoser> that would make sense
16:51:58 <rbasak> (in which case I'll want to test for a regression when you do)
16:52:07 <smoser> anyone who wants to help test https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/precise/+source/cloud-init would be wonderful.
16:52:10 <hallyn> pls to test new qemu packages in ppa:serge-hallyn/crossc in raring :)
16:52:15 <smoser> (anything fix-committed needs testing)
16:52:47 <rbasak> smoser: do you  have a -proposed daily cloud image or anything like that?
16:53:11 * Daviey moves on?
16:54:02 <smb> Daviey, got 7 minutes
16:54:46 <Daviey> we can have a 6 minute party then
16:54:51 <Daviey> #topic Announce next meeting date and time
16:55:00 <Daviey> Shall we have one in 2 weeks?
16:55:06 <Daviey> or 3 weeks?
16:55:23 <TheLordOfTime> two week's right in the middle of US holidays you know, not that there's many US people on the server team
16:55:26 <Daviey> So xmas day, or new years day?
16:55:49 <Daviey> 25th is 2 weeks, 1st is 3 weeks
16:55:49 <TheLordOfTime> isnt xmas day a family day?  probably new years'll be more... logi...
16:55:51 <TheLordOfTime> wait...
16:56:18 <TheLordOfTime> ... i'd assume the 25th is just a bad date for the meeting, but the 1st isnt that much better...
16:56:20 <Daviey> Okay, lets go for the 8th.. Wow.
16:56:31 <Daviey> same time
16:56:36 <Daviey> #endmeeting