22:01:30 <cjohnston> #startmeeting Ubunut Memebership Board Meeting 22:01:30 <meetingology> Meeting started Thu Dec 6 22:01:30 2012 UTC. The chair is cjohnston. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology. 22:01:30 <meetingology> 22:01:30 <meetingology> Available commands: #accept #accepted #action #agree #agreed #chair #commands #endmeeting #endvote #halp #help #idea #info #link #lurk #meetingname #meetingtopic #nick #progress #rejected #replay #restrictlogs #save #startmeeting #subtopic #topic #unchair #undo #unlurk #vote #voters #votesrequired 22:01:43 <cjohnston> #chair cjohnston 22:01:43 <meetingology> Current chairs: cjohnston 22:02:42 <cjohnston> #voters cjohnston hggdh PabloRubianes Pendulum 22:02:42 <meetingology> Current voters: PabloRubianes Pendulum cjohnston hggdh 22:03:19 <cjohnston> Just a few minutes all.. trying to get this thing setup 22:04:21 <cjohnston> doesn't appear as though abdobonna is here 22:04:32 <cjohnston> #voters iulian 22:04:32 <meetingology> Current voters: PabloRubianes Pendulum cjohnston hggdh iulian 22:04:38 <iulian> Ta. 22:04:40 <cjohnston> kdub: ping 22:04:48 <kdub> cjohnston, pong 22:04:49 <cjohnston> #topic kdub membership application 22:05:08 <cjohnston> kdub: give me just a second and then you can go 22:06:20 <cjohnston> Hello and welcome to the Ubuntu Membership Review Board meeting for December 6 2012. The wiki page for the Review Boards are available here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Membership/Boards 22:06:25 <cjohnston> We will attempt to get through all of the applicants that have added themselves to that list before today's meeting. If we are unable to make it through the entire list due to time constraints, then at the next meeting we will pick up where we left off. 22:06:31 <cjohnston> The format for the meeting is as follows: We will go through the list of applicants one by one, by date of application (FIFO). 22:06:34 <cjohnston> Each applicant should introduce themselves (1-5 sentences) and provide links to their Ubuntu Wiki page. After the introduction the members of the Membership Review Board will review the pages and, if needed, ask the applicant further questions. 22:06:43 <cjohnston> During this time it is encouraged for other members of the community to show their support for the applicant. Do not be alarmed if the members of the Membership Review Board are quiet during this time; they are most likely reading wiki/launchpad/forum/other pages and deciding how they are going to vote. 22:06:51 <cjohnston> When the board is ready to vote, they will publicly vote in the channel with either +1, 0, or -1 (for membership, abstain, and against membership, respectively). If the sum of those numbers is positive, then the applicant is now an official Ubuntu member! (feel free congratulate them!) 22:06:56 <cjohnston> Now, with any further ado, lets get started with the first applicant... 22:07:00 <cjohnston> kdub: that's you... tell us about yourself 22:07:15 <kdub> ok, here's my wiki: 22:07:21 <kdub> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KevinDuBois 22:08:04 <cjohnston> #voters micahg 22:08:04 <meetingology> Current voters: PabloRubianes Pendulum cjohnston hggdh iulian micahg 22:08:13 <kdub> I've been involved in open source, mostly as a coder for the past many years. my primary ubuntu community activity is organizing meetings for the california loco for the san diego area 22:08:44 <hggdh> and https://launchpad.net/~kdub 22:08:44 <kdub> I've been involved in a couple upstream projects like compiz/vlc/ffmpeg off and on for a while now 22:08:55 <kdub> ah yes, and that is my launchpad 22:08:57 <kdub> thanks hggdh 22:09:01 <hggdh> yw 22:10:03 <micahg> kdub: have you ever considered contributing to Ubuntu development directly? 22:10:37 <kdub> a while back (a few years) i tried my hand at some packaging for some optical character recognition applications 22:10:54 <kdub> i've handed off their maintenence since then though, never got into the swing of it 22:12:20 <kdub> some other things, was involved with the michigan loco from the time it started in about 2006 until i moved to california 22:12:57 <kdub> and then started organizing some san diego ubuntu hours (there weren't any in my city) 22:13:21 <cjohnston> kdub: I think we are ready to vote. 22:13:34 <cjohnston> #vote Voting on kdub's Ubuntu Membership Application 22:13:34 <meetingology> Please vote on: Voting on kdub's Ubuntu Membership Application 22:13:34 <meetingology> Public votes can be registered by saying +1, +0 or -1 in channel, (private votes don't work yet, but when they do it will be by messaging the channel followed by +1/-1/+0 to me) 22:13:51 <hggdh> +1 thank you for your work, and please do not stop ;-) 22:13:51 <meetingology> +1 thank you for your work, and please do not stop ;-) received from hggdh 22:13:52 <iulian> +1 22:13:52 <meetingology> +1 received from iulian 22:14:04 <cjohnston> +1 22:14:04 <meetingology> +1 received from cjohnston 22:14:15 <micahg> +1, nice community leadership 22:14:15 <meetingology> +1, nice community leadership received from micahg 22:14:42 <Pendulum> +1 22:14:42 <meetingology> +1 received from Pendulum 22:15:02 <cjohnston> #endvote 22:15:02 <meetingology> Voting ended on: Voting on kdub's Ubuntu Membership Application 22:15:02 <meetingology> Votes for:5 Votes against:0 Abstentions:0 22:15:02 <meetingology> Motion carried 22:15:09 <cjohnston> Congrats kdub! 22:15:11 <kdub> whoohoo :) 22:15:15 <hggdh> kdub: welcome in 22:15:15 * kdub dances 22:15:24 <Pendulum> kdub: congrats and welcome :) 22:15:37 <kdub> thanks hggdh and Pendulum :D 22:15:38 <cjohnston> #topic m_3's Ubuntu Membership Application 22:15:44 <cjohnston> m_3: your up 22:15:49 <m_3> Hi Y'all 22:16:01 <m_3> I'm Mark Mims... wiki.ubuntu.com/MarkMims 22:16:28 <m_3> I'm on the Juju Ecosystem Team 22:16:56 <m_3> I write charms, teach charmschools, and help others integrate juju/charms into their current devops workflow 22:17:28 <m_3> Part of that work involves going to conferences to talk and do booth-duty 22:18:14 <m_3> I've done a bit of packaging... mostly in juju-related things (juju,juju-jitsu, charm-tools, charm-helpers) 22:18:31 <m_3> but also outside of it things like ppas for hadoop, reconnoiter 22:18:39 <cjohnston> What's this juju thing? 22:18:56 <m_3> and then I've had some uploads sponsored for ganglia 22:19:01 <m_3> cjohnston: ha! 22:19:05 <m_3> funny you should ask... :) 22:19:25 <cjohnston> juju deploy dinner -e office 22:19:30 <m_3> cjohnston and I charmed up the summit app for the last LinuxPlumbers conf 22:19:34 <hggdh> heh 22:19:52 * jcastro_ is here in support of m_3's application! 22:20:12 <m_3> That's pretty much all I can remember about myself at this point of the day 22:20:18 * hggdh wonders who is jcastro_ ... ;-) 22:20:19 <m_3> any questions on stuff? 22:21:49 <hggdh> m_3: please wait a bit, backstage discussions 22:21:53 <m_3> np 22:22:49 <iulian> m_3: What area of physics are you a geek of? 22:23:11 <m_3> I studied quantum computation 22:23:28 <m_3> how much noise quantum algorithms can tolerate before being as slow as the classical versions 22:23:48 <m_3> now I'm back in a physics department at USU and working more on distributed computing topics 22:23:56 <Pendulum> m_3: have you interacted with the Ubuntu community for things other than charms or has that been the majority of your involvement? 22:24:18 <cjohnston> #vote Voting on m_3's Ubuntu Membership Application 22:24:18 <meetingology> Please vote on: Voting on m_3's Ubuntu Membership Application 22:24:18 <meetingology> Public votes can be registered by saying +1, +0 or -1 in channel, (private votes don't work yet, but when they do it will be by messaging the channel followed by +1/-1/+0 to me) 22:24:39 <m_3> Pendulum: I've packaged some things too... some of those out of deps for charms... some of those things out of just pure interest 22:25:10 <iulian> m_3: Ah, boring. I was about to ask you a topological quantum field theory question but that's not really related. :) 22:25:18 <m_3> lots of big data related stuff now like hadoop and r 22:25:42 <hggdh> +1 22:25:42 <meetingology> +1 received from hggdh 22:25:48 <cjohnston> +1 22:25:48 <meetingology> +1 received from cjohnston 22:25:53 <m_3> iulian: well.... you'd be surprised actually how much geometry goes into quantum coding.. code bundles and the like. happy to chat on it in a pm anytime 22:25:57 <Pendulum> +1 22:25:57 <meetingology> +1 received from Pendulum 22:25:58 <iulian> +1 22:25:58 <meetingology> +1 received from iulian 22:26:01 <micahg> +1 22:26:01 <meetingology> +1 received from micahg 22:26:05 <jcastro_> \o/ 22:26:13 <hggdh> who is this jcastro_ ? 22:26:17 <cjohnston> #endvote 22:26:17 <meetingology> Voting ended on: Voting on m_3's Ubuntu Membership Application 22:26:17 <meetingology> Votes for:5 Votes against:0 Abstentions:0 22:26:17 <meetingology> Motion carried 22:26:19 <hggdh> :-) 22:26:22 <cjohnston> What hggdh said 22:26:23 <m_3> whoohoo! 22:26:25 <cjohnston> Congrats Mark! 22:26:27 <m_3> thanks gang! 22:26:30 <hggdh> m_3: welcome in sir 22:26:34 <Pendulum> m_3: congrats and welcome :) 22:26:35 <iulian> Congrats m_3. 22:26:54 <hggdh> jcastro_: thank you for your support for m_3 22:26:55 <cjohnston> #topic danielmato's Ubuntu Membership Application 22:27:01 <m_3> thansk a bunch 22:27:05 <cjohnston> danielmato: your up.. tell us a little about yourself 22:27:23 <danielmato> Hi to all 22:27:31 <iulian> Hi there. 22:27:49 <danielmato> I'm a video editor and open source enthusiastic 22:28:08 <danielmato> I'm from uruguay 22:28:26 <danielmato> working in the uruguay loco team 22:28:47 <danielmato> this is my launchpad page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DanielMato 22:29:45 <danielmato> i'm trying to give support as best as i can, in the community 22:30:38 <danielmato> basically giving workshops, presentations, talks, migrations, and in the made of some tutorials 22:31:43 <danielmato> collaborate in the new ubuntu uy page, as beta tester, and making some graphics 22:32:41 <cjohnston> #vote danielmato's Ubuntu Membership Application 22:32:41 <meetingology> Please vote on: danielmato's Ubuntu Membership Application 22:32:41 <meetingology> Public votes can be registered by saying +1, +0 or -1 in channel, (private votes don't work yet, but when they do it will be by messaging the channel followed by +1/-1/+0 to me) 22:33:00 <PabloRubianes> +1 22:33:00 <meetingology> +1 received from PabloRubianes 22:33:03 <Pendulum> +1 keep up the great work! 22:33:03 <meetingology> +1 keep up the great work! received from Pendulum 22:33:07 <iulian> +1 22:33:07 <meetingology> +1 received from iulian 22:33:16 <hggdh> +1 thank you for all your help with the LoCo, and all your work for Ubuntu and free software 22:33:16 <meetingology> +1 thank you for all your help with the LoCo, and all your work for Ubuntu and free software received from hggdh 22:33:19 <cjohnston> +1 22:33:19 <meetingology> +1 received from cjohnston 22:33:46 <micahg> +1 22:33:46 <meetingology> +1 received from micahg 22:33:53 <cjohnston> #endvote 22:33:53 <meetingology> Voting ended on: danielmato's Ubuntu Membership Application 22:33:53 <meetingology> Votes for:6 Votes against:0 Abstentions:0 22:33:53 <meetingology> Motion carried 22:33:59 <cjohnston> Congrats danielmato 22:34:10 <danielmato> yeah!!! really thanks, i will keep the work up 22:34:10 <hggdh> danielmato: bienvenido 22:34:27 <danielmato> hggdh, gracias 22:34:37 <hggdh> danielmato: de nada :-) 22:34:37 <cjohnston> #topic ttoine's Membership Application 22:34:49 <cjohnston> ttoine: your up 22:34:52 <solarcloud_3scre> What meeting is this for exactl;y ? 22:34:57 <ttoine> helloa all 22:35:06 <ttoine> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Ttoine 22:35:13 <iulian> solarcloud_3scre: See topic. 22:35:28 <PabloRubianes> Vamo !!! 22:35:29 <ttoine> I started to use Ubuntu at its very beginning, with Dapper 22:35:35 * holstein would like to thank ttoine for helping the ubuntustudio team.. here to show support! 22:36:01 <ttoine> As a musician, I worked on how to produce music with free software, and the simplicity of Ubuntu started to be my new base 22:36:11 * solarcloud_3scre doesn't understand what 'membership' relates to ? 22:36:23 <ttoine> I am not a developper with programmation skills 22:36:33 <cjohnston> solarcloud_3scre: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Membership 22:36:54 <ttoine> but I spend much of my time testing hardware, finding the key developper etc. to be sure that everything is working 22:37:19 <ttoine> I am one of the founder of Ubuntu Studio, and still there to make it alive 22:37:41 <solarcloud_3scre> "Membership is not required for contribution, but contribution is required for membership." this is an Odd meeting. :\ 22:37:47 <ttoine> I spend a lot of my free time on workshops, etc. 22:38:38 <holstein> solarcloud_3scre: feel free and PM me if you have more questions.. otherwise a meeting is in progress. cheers 22:39:56 <Pendulum> ttoine: Is there a reason that you've waited this long to apply for membership? 22:39:58 <czajkowski> solarcloud_3scre: I did ask you not to interrupt their meeting 22:40:44 <ttoine> Pendulum, I just didn't seen what use I could have 22:41:00 * zequence is also here to show support for ttoine 22:41:13 <ttoine> but know that I am working on developping the Ubuntu Studio community, I clearly see the interest 22:41:52 <Pendulum> ttoine: What have you been doing more recently? It feels like as far as documentation of your involvement goes, there was quite a bit a few years ago, but then a chunk in the middle where we don't see much until the last very short while? 22:43:09 <ttoine> As i say I am not skilled with packaging etc. 22:43:34 <micahg> ttoine: that's a different board ;) 22:43:37 <ttoine> So I spend time with finding information, testing application in workflows 22:43:46 <zequence> Recently ttoine has been involved in the Ubuntu Studio PR team, which is not yet actively creating news. ttoine will be a key person in that team 22:44:13 <holstein> ttoine is working with creating a public relations team for ubuntustudio. trying to help us attract new users and team members 22:44:37 <micahg> zequence: right, but membership is based on past contributions, not future ones (though we hope they continue) 22:44:56 <ttoine> micahg, I have past contributions 22:44:57 <Pendulum> holstein: how long has ttoine been working with you on Ubuntu Studio? 22:45:12 <ttoine> and my current work for Ubuntu Studio can not be seen on launchpad 22:45:13 <zequence> ttoine has been helping us define what that team is to do, by doing research etc 22:45:28 <micahg> ttoine: right, but as Pendulum mentioned, there's this gap we're trying to piece together where it ended 22:46:03 <holstein> Pendulum: this past cycle is when i noticed input.. though ttoine was around the project before i was there 22:47:33 <ttoine> micahg, because on my wiki page, there is only "since 2007" ? 22:48:15 <cjohnston> ttoine: I don't see anything in Launchpad or on the wiki page to show anything that you have been doing recently. 22:48:57 <ttoine> cjohnston, because I am working on the community management at the moment 22:49:01 <Pendulum> ttoine: we see that it says "since 2007", but we're only hearing testimonials from people who are saying "a couple months". No one is hear backing you up that you've been doing work consistantly since 2007 22:49:58 <cjohnston> ttoine: do you have anything that you can show me with that? 22:50:09 <micahg> From my IRC logs, I see activity from Mar/Apr this year, then mostly a break, then Nov on again 22:50:18 <micahg> in #ubuntustudio-devel 22:51:10 <ttoine> cjohnston, we are working on the moment at the creation of ubuntu studio pages on facebook, G+, twitter 22:51:49 <ttoine> and about what we should post and where 22:52:34 <cjohnston> The ubuntu studio page on facebook was created on 2/23/08 22:52:46 <ttoine> the aim is to create a community of users and developpers. That' what I have always ask to the team, but it is quite recent as a goal. Mainly because in the past, we needed a lot of programmation skills 22:53:03 <ttoine> for this summer, I had a surgery of shoulder and was off until I can work again 22:53:45 <holstein> i know for me, i want ubuntustudio to have a venue for helping attract new users and developers.. and contribute upstream 22:54:00 <cjohnston> I agree with that holstein 22:54:01 <holstein> i think ttoine is trying to help us envision that goal 22:54:35 <holstein> its a small team though.. and we have lots of developing contributors, but few contributing developers. if you know what i mean 22:54:49 <ttoine> cjohnston, because I don't package and write code, you can't see my involvement, that's the point ? 22:55:34 <hggdh> ttoine: no, not at all. What we are missing is this gap in the middle. And more testimonials covering it 22:55:34 <Pendulum> ttoine: That's why we're asking about people who can testify on the amount of time/work you've done in the last year or os 22:56:15 <holstein> i hope that through getting news out and having folks on the team like ttoine who are commiting to helping us shape our public image, we can better attract what we need 22:56:44 <ttoine> hggdh, a big part of the Ubuntu Studio team has leave at the time current team leader started to lead 22:57:20 <zequence> ttoine was very much involved in filling this page with content https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuStudio/PublicRelations 22:57:22 <ttoine> I am one of the last team member from the original team. That's why nobodyd can testify for this period 22:57:38 <zequence> ..which is the preparation work for our public relations team 22:58:11 <micahg> zequence: I see no edits from him, mostly you and ScottL 22:58:19 <micahg> or rather all you and ScottL 22:58:28 <micahg> and that page is only 1.5 months old 22:58:34 <zequence> micahg: I've copied and pasted the text from a whiteboard for a blueprint, which ttoine helped put together 22:58:40 <ttoine> micahg, a lot of things have been discussed with me on irc 22:59:19 <zequence> ..and we did edit the page some more after that, of course 22:59:22 <micahg> right, but again, that leaves us with the last couple months 22:59:28 <ttoine> launchpad is not my favourite place 22:59:59 <ttoine> micahg, that's right 23:00:29 <ttoine> but think that between to release period, there is a lot of time where people like me are not very needed for developement 23:00:35 <Pendulum> ttoine: We think you've done some good work. While we feel like we cannot approve you at this time, we'd really like you to gather some more testimonials for the time you've spent working in the last year or so and then reapply. 23:01:12 <Pendulum> You don't need more things on launchpad, just more people who can say that they've witnessed at least 6 months of sustained contribution, please. 23:01:25 <ttoine> Pendulum, ok 23:01:50 <Pendulum> ttoine: if you have any further questions, please feel free to contact the board. I'm also happy to go over your wiki page with you if you contact me at pendulum@ubuntu.com 23:02:07 <ttoine> Pendulum, I don't any question 23:02:43 <cjohnston> Thanks to everyone for coming to the meeting and congrats to those who were accepted. 23:02:46 <cjohnston> #endmeeting