22:01:30 <cjohnston> #startmeeting Ubunut Memebership Board Meeting
22:01:30 <meetingology> Meeting started Thu Dec  6 22:01:30 2012 UTC.  The chair is cjohnston. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology.
22:01:30 <meetingology> 
22:01:30 <meetingology> Available commands: #accept #accepted #action #agree #agreed #chair #commands #endmeeting #endvote #halp #help #idea #info #link #lurk #meetingname #meetingtopic #nick #progress #rejected #replay #restrictlogs #save #startmeeting #subtopic #topic #unchair #undo #unlurk #vote #voters #votesrequired
22:01:43 <cjohnston> #chair cjohnston
22:01:43 <meetingology> Current chairs: cjohnston
22:02:42 <cjohnston> #voters cjohnston hggdh PabloRubianes Pendulum
22:02:42 <meetingology> Current voters: PabloRubianes Pendulum cjohnston hggdh
22:03:19 <cjohnston> Just a few minutes all.. trying to get this thing setup
22:04:21 <cjohnston> doesn't appear as though abdobonna is here
22:04:32 <cjohnston> #voters iulian
22:04:32 <meetingology> Current voters: PabloRubianes Pendulum cjohnston hggdh iulian
22:04:38 <iulian> Ta.
22:04:40 <cjohnston> kdub: ping
22:04:48 <kdub> cjohnston, pong
22:04:49 <cjohnston> #topic kdub membership application
22:05:08 <cjohnston> kdub: give me just a second and then you can go
22:06:20 <cjohnston> Hello and welcome to the Ubuntu Membership Review Board meeting for December 6 2012. The wiki page for the Review Boards are available here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Membership/Boards
22:06:25 <cjohnston> We will attempt to get through all of the applicants that have added themselves to that list before today's meeting. If we are unable to make it through the entire list due to time constraints, then at the next meeting we will pick up where we left off.
22:06:31 <cjohnston> The format for the meeting is as follows: We will go through the list of applicants one by one, by date of application (FIFO).
22:06:34 <cjohnston> Each applicant should introduce themselves (1-5 sentences) and provide links to their Ubuntu Wiki page. After the introduction the members of the Membership Review Board will review the pages and, if needed, ask the applicant further questions.
22:06:43 <cjohnston> During this time it is encouraged for other members of the community to show their support for the applicant. Do not be alarmed if the members of the Membership Review Board are quiet during this time; they are most likely reading wiki/launchpad/forum/other pages and deciding how they are going to vote.
22:06:51 <cjohnston> When the board is ready to vote, they will publicly vote in the channel with either +1, 0, or -1 (for membership, abstain, and against membership, respectively). If the sum of those numbers is positive, then the applicant is now an official Ubuntu member! (feel free congratulate them!)
22:06:56 <cjohnston> Now, with any further ado, lets get started with the first applicant...
22:07:00 <cjohnston> kdub: that's you... tell us about yourself
22:07:15 <kdub> ok, here's my wiki:
22:07:21 <kdub> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KevinDuBois
22:08:04 <cjohnston> #voters micahg
22:08:04 <meetingology> Current voters: PabloRubianes Pendulum cjohnston hggdh iulian micahg
22:08:13 <kdub> I've been involved in open source, mostly as a coder for the past many years. my primary ubuntu community activity is organizing meetings for the california loco for the san diego area
22:08:44 <hggdh> and https://launchpad.net/~kdub
22:08:44 <kdub> I've been involved in a couple upstream projects like compiz/vlc/ffmpeg off and on for a while now
22:08:55 <kdub> ah yes, and that is my launchpad
22:08:57 <kdub> thanks hggdh
22:09:01 <hggdh> yw
22:10:03 <micahg> kdub: have you ever considered contributing to Ubuntu development directly?
22:10:37 <kdub> a while back (a few years) i tried my hand at some packaging for some optical character recognition applications
22:10:54 <kdub> i've handed off their maintenence since then though, never got into the swing of it
22:12:20 <kdub> some other things, was involved with the michigan loco from the time it started in about 2006 until i moved to california
22:12:57 <kdub> and then started organizing some san diego ubuntu hours (there weren't any in my city)
22:13:21 <cjohnston> kdub: I think we are ready to vote.
22:13:34 <cjohnston> #vote Voting on kdub's Ubuntu Membership Application
22:13:34 <meetingology> Please vote on: Voting on kdub's Ubuntu Membership Application
22:13:34 <meetingology> Public votes can be registered by saying +1, +0 or -1 in channel, (private votes don't work yet, but when they do it will be by messaging the channel followed by +1/-1/+0 to me)
22:13:51 <hggdh> +1 thank you for your work, and please do not stop ;-)
22:13:51 <meetingology> +1 thank you for your work, and please do not stop ;-) received from hggdh
22:13:52 <iulian> +1
22:13:52 <meetingology> +1 received from iulian
22:14:04 <cjohnston> +1
22:14:04 <meetingology> +1 received from cjohnston
22:14:15 <micahg> +1, nice community leadership
22:14:15 <meetingology> +1, nice community leadership received from micahg
22:14:42 <Pendulum> +1
22:14:42 <meetingology> +1 received from Pendulum
22:15:02 <cjohnston> #endvote
22:15:02 <meetingology> Voting ended on: Voting on kdub's Ubuntu Membership Application
22:15:02 <meetingology> Votes for:5 Votes against:0 Abstentions:0
22:15:02 <meetingology> Motion carried
22:15:09 <cjohnston> Congrats kdub!
22:15:11 <kdub> whoohoo :)
22:15:15 <hggdh> kdub: welcome in
22:15:15 * kdub dances
22:15:24 <Pendulum> kdub: congrats and welcome :)
22:15:37 <kdub> thanks hggdh and Pendulum :D
22:15:38 <cjohnston> #topic m_3's Ubuntu Membership Application
22:15:44 <cjohnston> m_3: your up
22:15:49 <m_3> Hi Y'all
22:16:01 <m_3> I'm Mark Mims... wiki.ubuntu.com/MarkMims
22:16:28 <m_3> I'm on the Juju Ecosystem Team
22:16:56 <m_3> I write charms, teach charmschools, and help others integrate juju/charms into their current devops workflow
22:17:28 <m_3> Part of that work involves going to conferences to talk and do booth-duty
22:18:14 <m_3> I've done a bit of packaging... mostly in juju-related things (juju,juju-jitsu, charm-tools, charm-helpers)
22:18:31 <m_3> but also outside of it things like ppas for hadoop, reconnoiter
22:18:39 <cjohnston> What's this juju thing?
22:18:56 <m_3> and then I've had some uploads sponsored for ganglia
22:19:01 <m_3> cjohnston: ha!
22:19:05 <m_3> funny you should ask... :)
22:19:25 <cjohnston> juju deploy dinner -e office
22:19:30 <m_3> cjohnston and I charmed up the summit app for the last LinuxPlumbers conf
22:19:34 <hggdh> heh
22:19:52 * jcastro_ is here in support of m_3's application!
22:20:12 <m_3> That's pretty much all I can remember about myself at this point of the day
22:20:18 * hggdh wonders who is jcastro_ ... ;-)
22:20:19 <m_3> any questions on stuff?
22:21:49 <hggdh> m_3: please wait a bit, backstage discussions
22:21:53 <m_3> np
22:22:49 <iulian> m_3: What area of physics are you a geek of?
22:23:11 <m_3> I studied quantum computation
22:23:28 <m_3> how much noise quantum algorithms can tolerate before being as slow as the classical versions
22:23:48 <m_3> now I'm back in a physics department at USU and working more on distributed computing topics
22:23:56 <Pendulum> m_3: have you interacted with the Ubuntu community for things other than charms or has that been the majority of your involvement?
22:24:18 <cjohnston> #vote Voting on m_3's Ubuntu Membership Application
22:24:18 <meetingology> Please vote on: Voting on m_3's Ubuntu Membership Application
22:24:18 <meetingology> Public votes can be registered by saying +1, +0 or -1 in channel, (private votes don't work yet, but when they do it will be by messaging the channel followed by +1/-1/+0 to me)
22:24:39 <m_3> Pendulum: I've packaged some things too... some of those out of deps for charms... some of those things out of just pure interest
22:25:10 <iulian> m_3: Ah, boring. I was about to ask you a topological quantum field theory question but that's not really related. :)
22:25:18 <m_3> lots of big data related stuff now like hadoop and r
22:25:42 <hggdh> +1
22:25:42 <meetingology> +1 received from hggdh
22:25:48 <cjohnston> +1
22:25:48 <meetingology> +1 received from cjohnston
22:25:53 <m_3> iulian: well.... you'd be surprised actually how much geometry goes into quantum coding.. code bundles and the like.  happy to chat on it in a pm anytime
22:25:57 <Pendulum> +1
22:25:57 <meetingology> +1 received from Pendulum
22:25:58 <iulian> +1
22:25:58 <meetingology> +1 received from iulian
22:26:01 <micahg> +1
22:26:01 <meetingology> +1 received from micahg
22:26:05 <jcastro_> \o/
22:26:13 <hggdh> who is this jcastro_ ?
22:26:17 <cjohnston> #endvote
22:26:17 <meetingology> Voting ended on: Voting on m_3's Ubuntu Membership Application
22:26:17 <meetingology> Votes for:5 Votes against:0 Abstentions:0
22:26:17 <meetingology> Motion carried
22:26:19 <hggdh> :-)
22:26:22 <cjohnston> What hggdh said
22:26:23 <m_3> whoohoo!
22:26:25 <cjohnston> Congrats Mark!
22:26:27 <m_3> thanks gang!
22:26:30 <hggdh> m_3: welcome in sir
22:26:34 <Pendulum> m_3: congrats and welcome :)
22:26:35 <iulian> Congrats m_3.
22:26:54 <hggdh> jcastro_: thank you for your support for m_3
22:26:55 <cjohnston> #topic danielmato's Ubuntu Membership Application
22:27:01 <m_3> thansk a bunch
22:27:05 <cjohnston> danielmato: your up.. tell us a little about yourself
22:27:23 <danielmato> Hi to all
22:27:31 <iulian> Hi there.
22:27:49 <danielmato> I'm a video editor and open source enthusiastic
22:28:08 <danielmato> I'm from uruguay
22:28:26 <danielmato> working in the uruguay loco team
22:28:47 <danielmato> this is my launchpad page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DanielMato
22:29:45 <danielmato> i'm trying to give support as best as i can, in the community
22:30:38 <danielmato> basically giving workshops, presentations, talks, migrations, and in the made of some tutorials
22:31:43 <danielmato> collaborate in the new ubuntu uy page, as beta tester, and making some graphics
22:32:41 <cjohnston> #vote danielmato's Ubuntu Membership Application
22:32:41 <meetingology> Please vote on: danielmato's Ubuntu Membership Application
22:32:41 <meetingology> Public votes can be registered by saying +1, +0 or -1 in channel, (private votes don't work yet, but when they do it will be by messaging the channel followed by +1/-1/+0 to me)
22:33:00 <PabloRubianes> +1
22:33:00 <meetingology> +1 received from PabloRubianes
22:33:03 <Pendulum> +1 keep up the great work!
22:33:03 <meetingology> +1 keep up the great work! received from Pendulum
22:33:07 <iulian> +1
22:33:07 <meetingology> +1 received from iulian
22:33:16 <hggdh> +1 thank you for all your help with the LoCo, and all your work for Ubuntu and free software
22:33:16 <meetingology> +1 thank you for all your help with the LoCo, and all your work for Ubuntu and free software received from hggdh
22:33:19 <cjohnston> +1
22:33:19 <meetingology> +1 received from cjohnston
22:33:46 <micahg> +1
22:33:46 <meetingology> +1 received from micahg
22:33:53 <cjohnston> #endvote
22:33:53 <meetingology> Voting ended on: danielmato's Ubuntu Membership Application
22:33:53 <meetingology> Votes for:6 Votes against:0 Abstentions:0
22:33:53 <meetingology> Motion carried
22:33:59 <cjohnston> Congrats danielmato
22:34:10 <danielmato> yeah!!! really thanks, i will keep the work up
22:34:10 <hggdh> danielmato: bienvenido
22:34:27 <danielmato> hggdh, gracias
22:34:37 <hggdh> danielmato: de nada :-)
22:34:37 <cjohnston> #topic ttoine's Membership Application
22:34:49 <cjohnston> ttoine: your up
22:34:52 <solarcloud_3scre> What meeting is this for exactl;y ?
22:34:57 <ttoine> helloa all
22:35:06 <ttoine> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Ttoine
22:35:13 <iulian> solarcloud_3scre: See topic.
22:35:28 <PabloRubianes> Vamo !!!
22:35:29 <ttoine> I started to use Ubuntu at its very beginning, with Dapper
22:35:35 * holstein would like to thank ttoine for helping the ubuntustudio team.. here to show support!
22:36:01 <ttoine> As a musician, I worked on how to produce music with free software, and the simplicity of Ubuntu started to be my new base
22:36:11 * solarcloud_3scre doesn't understand what 'membership' relates to ?
22:36:23 <ttoine> I am not a developper with programmation skills
22:36:33 <cjohnston> solarcloud_3scre: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Membership
22:36:54 <ttoine> but I spend much of my time testing hardware, finding the key developper etc. to be sure that everything is working
22:37:19 <ttoine> I am one of the founder of Ubuntu Studio, and still there to make it alive
22:37:41 <solarcloud_3scre> "Membership is not required for contribution, but contribution is required for membership." this is an Odd meeting. :\
22:37:47 <ttoine> I spend a lot of my free time on workshops, etc.
22:38:38 <holstein> solarcloud_3scre: feel free and PM me if you have more questions.. otherwise a meeting is in progress. cheers
22:39:56 <Pendulum> ttoine: Is there a reason that you've waited this long to apply for membership?
22:39:58 <czajkowski> solarcloud_3scre: I did ask you not to interrupt their meeting
22:40:44 <ttoine> Pendulum, I just didn't seen what use I could have
22:41:00 * zequence is also here to show support for ttoine
22:41:13 <ttoine> but know that I am working on developping the Ubuntu Studio community, I clearly see the interest
22:41:52 <Pendulum> ttoine: What have you been doing more recently? It feels like as far as documentation of your involvement goes, there was quite a bit a few years ago, but then a chunk in the middle where we don't see much until the last very short while?
22:43:09 <ttoine> As i say I am not skilled with packaging etc.
22:43:34 <micahg> ttoine: that's a different board ;)
22:43:37 <ttoine> So I spend time with finding information, testing application in workflows
22:43:46 <zequence> Recently ttoine has been involved in the Ubuntu Studio PR team, which is not yet actively creating news. ttoine will be a key person in that team
22:44:13 <holstein> ttoine is working with creating a public relations team for ubuntustudio. trying to help us attract new users and team members
22:44:37 <micahg> zequence: right, but membership is based on past contributions, not future ones (though we hope they continue)
22:44:56 <ttoine> micahg, I have past contributions
22:44:57 <Pendulum> holstein: how long has ttoine been working with you on Ubuntu Studio?
22:45:12 <ttoine> and my current work for Ubuntu Studio can not be seen on launchpad
22:45:13 <zequence> ttoine has been helping us define what that team is to do, by doing research etc
22:45:28 <micahg> ttoine: right, but as Pendulum mentioned, there's this gap we're trying to piece together where it ended
22:46:03 <holstein> Pendulum: this past cycle is when i noticed input.. though ttoine was around the project before i was there
22:47:33 <ttoine> micahg, because on my wiki page, there is only "since 2007" ?
22:48:15 <cjohnston> ttoine: I don't see anything in Launchpad or on the wiki page to show anything that you have been doing recently.
22:48:57 <ttoine> cjohnston, because I am working on the community management at the moment
22:49:01 <Pendulum> ttoine: we see that it says "since 2007", but we're only hearing testimonials from people who are saying "a couple months". No one is hear backing you up that you've been doing work consistantly since 2007
22:49:58 <cjohnston> ttoine: do you have anything that you can show me with that?
22:50:09 <micahg> From my IRC logs, I see activity from Mar/Apr this year, then mostly a break, then Nov on again
22:50:18 <micahg> in #ubuntustudio-devel
22:51:10 <ttoine> cjohnston, we are working on the moment at the creation of ubuntu studio pages on facebook, G+, twitter
22:51:49 <ttoine> and about what we should post and where
22:52:34 <cjohnston> The ubuntu studio page on facebook was created on 2/23/08
22:52:46 <ttoine> the aim is to create a community of users and developpers. That' what I have always ask to the team, but it is quite recent as a goal. Mainly because in the past, we needed a lot of programmation skills
22:53:03 <ttoine> for this summer, I had a surgery of shoulder and was off until I can work again
22:53:45 <holstein> i know for me, i want ubuntustudio to have a venue for helping attract new users and developers.. and contribute upstream
22:54:00 <cjohnston> I agree with that holstein
22:54:01 <holstein> i think ttoine is trying to help us envision that goal
22:54:35 <holstein> its a small team though.. and we have lots of developing contributors, but few contributing developers. if you know what i mean
22:54:49 <ttoine> cjohnston, because I don't package and write code, you can't see my involvement, that's the point ?
22:55:34 <hggdh> ttoine: no, not at all. What we are missing is this gap in the middle. And more testimonials covering it
22:55:34 <Pendulum> ttoine: That's why we're asking about people who can testify on the amount of time/work you've done in the last year or os
22:56:15 <holstein> i hope that through getting news out and having folks on the team like ttoine who are commiting to helping us shape our public image, we can better attract what we need
22:56:44 <ttoine> hggdh, a big part of the Ubuntu Studio team has leave at the time current team leader started to lead
22:57:20 <zequence> ttoine was very much involved in filling this page with content https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuStudio/PublicRelations
22:57:22 <ttoine> I am one of the last team member from the original team. That's why nobodyd can testify for this period
22:57:38 <zequence> ..which is the preparation work for our public relations team
22:58:11 <micahg> zequence: I see no edits from him, mostly you and ScottL
22:58:19 <micahg> or rather all you and ScottL
22:58:28 <micahg> and that page is only 1.5 months old
22:58:34 <zequence> micahg: I've copied and pasted the text from a whiteboard for a blueprint, which ttoine helped put together
22:58:40 <ttoine> micahg, a lot of things have been discussed with me on irc
22:59:19 <zequence> ..and we did edit the page some more after that, of course
22:59:22 <micahg> right, but again, that leaves us with the last couple months
22:59:28 <ttoine> launchpad is not my favourite place
22:59:59 <ttoine> micahg, that's right
23:00:29 <ttoine> but think that between to release period, there is a lot of time where people like me are not very needed for developement
23:00:35 <Pendulum> ttoine: We think you've done some good work. While we feel like we cannot approve you at this time, we'd really like you to gather some more testimonials for the time you've spent working in the last year or so and then reapply.
23:01:12 <Pendulum> You don't need more things on launchpad, just more people who can say that they've witnessed at least 6 months of sustained contribution, please.
23:01:25 <ttoine> Pendulum, ok
23:01:50 <Pendulum> ttoine: if you have any further questions, please feel free to contact the board. I'm also happy to go over your wiki page with you if you contact me at pendulum@ubuntu.com
23:02:07 <ttoine> Pendulum, I don't any question
23:02:43 <cjohnston> Thanks to everyone for coming to the meeting and congrats to those who were accepted.
23:02:46 <cjohnston> #endmeeting