16:20:39 #startmeeting ubuntu-server-team 16:20:39 Meeting started Tue Nov 13 16:20:39 2012 UTC. The chair is smoser. 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Depending on io scheduler (cfq/deadline) I think I got one half down to somewhere between v3.3-rc7 and v3.3 (bug messed up the bisect), the other half may be related to cfq and seemed to exist in Quantal stiil. Beside that I am working on an update to Xen Raring to cover the things we said we would do at UDS. 16:28:39 .. 16:28:39 Launchpad bug 1023755 in linux (Ubuntu) "Precise kernel locks up while dd to /dev/mapper files > 1Gb (was: Unable to delete volume)" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1023755 16:28:44 smb is all over it. 16:29:42 smb, also... it seemed like you had some kernel changes in the pike for 10.04 16:30:20 smoser, Oh yeah that. Sort of dump the special ec2 patches and just use the same codebase as for the generic kernels 16:30:29 http://people.canonical.com/~smb/lucid-ec2-ng 16:30:31 Just slightly different options and a few other patches 16:30:50 if anyone wants to give that stuff a spin on EC2 (generic xen couldn't hurt i dont think), that'd be great 16:31:03 thanks smb. 16:31:12 #topic Weekly Updates & Questions regarding Ubuntu ARM Server (rbasak) 16:31:16 Nothing new to report. Any questions for me? 16:31:39 rbasak, i've just uploaded to precise-proposed a cloud-init update that addresses 'ports.ubuntu.com' for arm 16:31:48 SpamapS, ... your help would be appreciated on that review. 16:31:50 Awesome. Thanks! 16:32:16 anything else related to the arm ? 16:32:25 #topic Open Discussion 16:32:39 our cloud iamges are currently experiencing issues for raring 16:32:48 utlemming did some bisection yesterday. 16:32:54 there were two issues: 16:33:17 a.) we weren't finding the Ec2 Datasource on ec2 or openstack 16:33:57 b.) we appear to "lose" some output that shoudl hit the console, making debugging harder. ie, cloud-init's 'log.warn' should get to/dev/console, but the messages were not getting there. 16:34:19 c.) cloud-init in raring == cloud-init in quantal at the moment 16:34:21 so.. 16:34:25 that will be fun. 16:34:44 anyone else open discussion , or solutions to my problems ? 16:34:59 also we have an SRU for nova and quantum on quantal that seems to be stuck or not moving 16:35:09 (ie: uploaded but not processed) 16:35:40 smoser: i dont have a solution to your problem ;) 16:35:54 ah. we should also welcome mikal, but since he lives in the far distant future, he is not here. 16:36:17 mikal will be working on openstack for us. hooray. 16:36:20 Hey has anyone been following debian's cloud image efforts? 16:37:31 i'm on ec2debian mailing list 16:37:36 but thats about it. and that is slow moving. 16:37:46 was there something specifically you were interested in SpamapS ? 16:38:23 its not ec2debian, there's a debian-cloud now 16:38:38 They're pushing images into Azure as well as EC2 16:38:54 smoser: I'm just wondering if people have thoughts on how we might collaborate there. 16:39:16 there was call for help maintaining cloud-init in/for debian images. 16:39:25 As Debian users move onto the cloud, they'll likely bring new ideas that we can incorporate into Ubuntu's cloud images. 16:39:27 SpamapS: do you have a link? 16:39:36 http://lists.debian.org/debian-cloud/2012/11/threads.html 16:39:43 * smoser will join list. 16:39:55 some of this stuff was on debian-private though (the azure bits) 16:39:59 https://lists.debian.org/debian-cloud/ 16:39:59 and respond to call for cloud-init. 16:40:19 xnox: Azure is being discussed on debian-cloud tho 16:40:38 https://lists.debian.org/debian-cloud/2012/11/msg00039.html 16:40:41 SpamapS: now it is =) good. 16:40:56 xnox: thought I was being a real oaf there for a second. 16:41:44 SpamapS: for Azure, I probably need to spend some time with them, since I package their agent. 16:41:47 * xnox was only following debian-private. 16:42:57 utlemming: yeah, it might be good to not duplicate that effort. :) 16:43:38 Oh there's also a #debian-cloud on OFTC 16:44:56 thanks SpamapS 16:44:59 anyone have anythign else ? 16:46:09 #topic Announce next meeting date and time 16:46:21 Same time, or an hour later? 16:46:30 same time 16:46:37 this meeting has been 16:00 UTC for probably 2 years. 16:47:02 but that isn't necessarily a reason that US/Pacific people should have to be online at 8:00 AM 16:47:14 yeah, sucks for west coast US but meh 16:48:14 ok. failing any other arguments... 16:48:17 smoser: and for the alst 2 years, west-coasters have complained, and sucked at turning up :) 16:48:40 nobody on the west coast of the US uses Ubuntu server 16:48:46 ok. 16:48:54 well I mean except *all of silicon valley*, but who cares about those nerds? 16:48:56 next meeting: Tuesday 2012-11-20 at 1600 UTC - #ubuntu-meeting 16:49:10 #end-meeting 16:49:12 #endmeeting