16:20:39 <smoser> #startmeeting ubuntu-server-team 16:20:39 <meetingology> Meeting started Tue Nov 13 16:20:39 2012 UTC. The chair is smoser. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology. 16:20:39 <meetingology> 16:20:39 <meetingology> Available commands: #accept #accepted #action #agree #agreed #chair #commands #endmeeting #endvote #halp #help #idea #info #link #lurk #meetingname #meetingtopic #nick #progress #rejected #replay #restrictlogs #save #startmeeting #subtopic #topic #unchair #undo #unlurk #vote #voters #votesrequired 16:20:59 <smoser> #topic Review ACTION points from previous meeting 16:21:10 <smoser> no action items carried over 16:21:17 <smoser> #topic Raring Development 16:21:36 <smoser> Daviey, did you want to talk some here? 16:21:45 <smoser> blueprints should be just about settled. 16:21:58 <Daviey> smoser: I think you can cover it :) 16:22:10 <smoser> i'll take an action to review them today or tomorrow and bother anyone whose are not in good state. 16:22:12 <Daviey> smoser: You, jamespage and myself will be reviewing blueprints this week, right? 16:22:28 <smoser> #action smoser, jamespage, daviey review blueprints 16:22:28 * meetingology smoser, jamespage, daviey review blueprints 16:22:32 <jamespage> Daviey, smoser: lets schedule some time todo that then 16:22:44 <smoser> after meeting, jamespage 16:22:56 <smoser> other thing here is that would like to get "milestones" in place. 16:23:37 <Daviey> smoser: Monthly ? 16:23:38 <smoser> we dont really have milestones (alpha1, alpha2...) but i thinkw e want to still target blueprints for "general finished" at given points in the cycle. 16:24:16 <smoser> ah. the Monthly things are in now. 16:24:17 <smoser> coo. 16:24:54 <smoser> ie, you can now target bugs to "ubuntu-13.04-month-1" 16:25:07 <smoser> (also 'alpha-X' which is strange) 16:25:08 <smoser> anyway. 16:25:13 <smoser> anyone have anything else for this ? 16:25:57 <smoser> o. moving on 16:26:04 <smoser> #topic Ubuntu Server Team Events 16:26:25 <Daviey> None planned AFAIK? 16:26:29 <smoser> utlemming and I will be at re:invent which is the week after next. 16:26:47 <smoser> dr mimms and SpamapS also i think. 16:27:04 <smoser> #topic Weekly Updates & Questions for the QA Team (hggdh) 16:27:19 <smoser> hggdh is not present... 16:27:24 <SpamapS> indeed 16:27:25 <smoser> anyone have QA like topics for disucssion ? 16:27:30 <SpamapS> oh sorry I forgot to pipe up in events 16:27:40 <SpamapS> I'll also be talking at ScaleLA next Tuesday 16:27:59 <SpamapS> http://www.meetup.com/scalela/ 16:28:02 <smoser> cool. 16:28:02 <Daviey> Oo 16:28:35 <smoser> #topic Weekly Updates & Questions for the Kernel Team (smb) 16:28:37 <smb> Working on on bug 1023755. Depending on io scheduler (cfq/deadline) I think I got one half down to somewhere between v3.3-rc7 and v3.3 (bug messed up the bisect), the other half may be related to cfq and seemed to exist in Quantal stiil. Beside that I am working on an update to Xen Raring to cover the things we said we would do at UDS. 16:28:39 <smb> .. 16:28:39 <ubottu> Launchpad bug 1023755 in linux (Ubuntu) "Precise kernel locks up while dd to /dev/mapper files > 1Gb (was: Unable to delete volume)" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1023755 16:28:44 <smoser> smb is all over it. 16:29:42 <smoser> smb, also... it seemed like you had some kernel changes in the pike for 10.04 16:30:20 <smb> smoser, Oh yeah that. Sort of dump the special ec2 patches and just use the same codebase as for the generic kernels 16:30:29 <smoser> http://people.canonical.com/~smb/lucid-ec2-ng 16:30:31 <smb> Just slightly different options and a few other patches 16:30:50 <smoser> if anyone wants to give that stuff a spin on EC2 (generic xen couldn't hurt i dont think), that'd be great 16:31:03 <smoser> thanks smb. 16:31:12 <smoser> #topic Weekly Updates & Questions regarding Ubuntu ARM Server (rbasak) 16:31:16 <rbasak> Nothing new to report. Any questions for me? 16:31:39 <smoser> rbasak, i've just uploaded to precise-proposed a cloud-init update that addresses 'ports.ubuntu.com' for arm 16:31:48 <smoser> SpamapS, ... your help would be appreciated on that review. 16:31:50 <rbasak> Awesome. Thanks! 16:32:16 <smoser> anything else related to the arm ? 16:32:25 <smoser> #topic Open Discussion 16:32:39 <smoser> our cloud iamges are currently experiencing issues for raring 16:32:48 <smoser> utlemming did some bisection yesterday. 16:32:54 <smoser> there were two issues: 16:33:17 <smoser> a.) we weren't finding the Ec2 Datasource on ec2 or openstack 16:33:57 <smoser> b.) we appear to "lose" some output that shoudl hit the console, making debugging harder. ie, cloud-init's 'log.warn' should get to/dev/console, but the messages were not getting there. 16:34:19 <smoser> c.) cloud-init in raring == cloud-init in quantal at the moment 16:34:21 <smoser> so.. 16:34:25 <smoser> that will be fun. 16:34:44 <smoser> anyone else open discussion , or solutions to my problems ? 16:34:59 <zul> also we have an SRU for nova and quantum on quantal that seems to be stuck or not moving 16:35:09 <zul> (ie: uploaded but not processed) 16:35:40 <zul> smoser: i dont have a solution to your problem ;) 16:35:54 <smoser> ah. we should also welcome mikal, but since he lives in the far distant future, he is not here. 16:36:17 <smoser> mikal will be working on openstack for us. hooray. 16:36:20 <SpamapS> Hey has anyone been following debian's cloud image efforts? 16:37:31 <smoser> i'm on ec2debian mailing list 16:37:36 <smoser> but thats about it. and that is slow moving. 16:37:46 <smoser> was there something specifically you were interested in SpamapS ? 16:38:23 <SpamapS> its not ec2debian, there's a debian-cloud now 16:38:38 <SpamapS> They're pushing images into Azure as well as EC2 16:38:54 <SpamapS> smoser: I'm just wondering if people have thoughts on how we might collaborate there. 16:39:16 <xnox> there was call for help maintaining cloud-init in/for debian images. 16:39:25 <SpamapS> As Debian users move onto the cloud, they'll likely bring new ideas that we can incorporate into Ubuntu's cloud images. 16:39:27 <utlemming> SpamapS: do you have a link? 16:39:36 <smoser> http://lists.debian.org/debian-cloud/2012/11/threads.html 16:39:43 * smoser will join list. 16:39:55 <xnox> some of this stuff was on debian-private though (the azure bits) 16:39:59 <SpamapS> https://lists.debian.org/debian-cloud/ 16:39:59 <smoser> and respond to call for cloud-init. 16:40:19 <SpamapS> xnox: Azure is being discussed on debian-cloud tho 16:40:38 <SpamapS> https://lists.debian.org/debian-cloud/2012/11/msg00039.html 16:40:41 <xnox> SpamapS: now it is =) good. 16:40:56 <SpamapS> xnox: <phew> thought I was being a real oaf there for a second. 16:41:44 <utlemming> SpamapS: for Azure, I probably need to spend some time with them, since I package their agent. 16:41:47 * xnox was only following debian-private. 16:42:57 <SpamapS> utlemming: yeah, it might be good to not duplicate that effort. :) 16:43:38 <SpamapS> Oh there's also a #debian-cloud on OFTC 16:44:56 <smoser> thanks SpamapS 16:44:59 <smoser> anyone have anythign else ? 16:46:09 <smoser> #topic Announce next meeting date and time 16:46:21 <Daviey> Same time, or an hour later? 16:46:30 <zul> same time 16:46:37 <smoser> this meeting has been 16:00 UTC for probably 2 years. 16:47:02 <smoser> but that isn't necessarily a reason that US/Pacific people should have to be online at 8:00 AM 16:47:14 <SpamapS> yeah, sucks for west coast US but meh 16:48:14 <smoser> ok. failing any other arguments... 16:48:17 <Daviey> smoser: and for the alst 2 years, west-coasters have complained, and sucked at turning up :) 16:48:40 <SpamapS> nobody on the west coast of the US uses Ubuntu server 16:48:46 <smoser> ok. 16:48:54 <SpamapS> well I mean except *all of silicon valley*, but who cares about those nerds? 16:48:56 <smoser> next meeting: Tuesday 2012-11-20 at 1600 UTC - #ubuntu-meeting 16:49:10 <smoser> #end-meeting 16:49:12 <smoser> #endmeeting