15:00:15 #startmeeting 15:00:15 Meeting started Fri Sep 28 15:00:15 2012 UTC. The chair is skaet. 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Please help get us back where we should be by making sure https://launchpad.net/~/+upcomingwork is up to date for your tasks. If something is clearly not going to make it this cycle, please mark it POSTPONED. 15:01:12 . 15:01:14 Thanks to those who sent in status emails, could you please paste the link here in the channel, since there weren�t that many when I checked earlier this morning... 15:01:17 .. 15:01:32 #topic Comments and Questions 15:02:16 Thank you to the release team and QA team and flavor leads for everyone�s hard work on getting all the late features landed, and tested, and out the door for Beta2. 15:02:34 Now entering the last window for bug fixing before we release 12.10. Any questions on upcoming dates/schedule above? 15:02:47 foundations status - https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-release/2012-September/001962.html (ogra) 15:03:05 err 15:03:07 Ubuntu Studio: No:P 15:03:20 sorry, old link 15:03:23 https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-release/2012-September/001986.html 15:03:34 thanks ogra_, I'll add the links to the agenda from ubuntu-release as we get them in. 15:03:50 (or likely from the mail list ;) ) 15:04:06 \o 15:04:17 go jbicha 15:04:34 .. (I was just waving) 15:04:39 welcome :) 15:04:39 :) 15:04:41 jbicha, hey ;-) 15:04:51 any one else have their links handy or questions? 15:05:21 o/ 15:05:23 ogra_, is it just new review blocking pam-xdg-support? 15:05:35 skaet, as i understood it, yeah 15:05:49 it seems to have been NEW reviewed 15:05:53 skaet, built now in q, needs a MIR 15:05:54 the binaries are installable 15:06:04 (I installed it here) 15:06:09 doesnt the FFe serve as MIR too ? 15:06:22 * ogra_ thought the bits were on the bug 15:06:29 no, FFe don't do code reviews nor security reviews I think 15:06:35 jdstrand, mdeslaur - is there anything missing for pam-xdg-support? 15:06:36 I don't think so 15:06:52 * xnox 0/ 15:07:26 skaet: did it get a MIR? 15:07:56 skaet: unless one has already been performed, it should go through the MIR process and get a security audit 15:08:02 mdeslaur, it looks fine for me, however I'd like to have the security team have a look 15:08:03 ogra_, can you handle? 15:08:22 getting the MIR filed, so we can unblock this one? 15:08:30 skaet, i'll poke slangasek ... but i thought there was MIR data in the FFe bu already 15:08:35 *bug 15:08:54 mdeslaur, can you guys do a security review on it today? 15:09:04 I cannot 15:09:08 skaet: what's the bug #? 15:09:10 I could do it monday 15:09:11 it's 300 lines of code 15:09:16 so shouldn't be too hard 15:09:35 well, it's pam. it's always hard 15:09:47 right, I was going to add a note about that ;-) 15:09:52 bug 894391 15:09:53 Launchpad bug 894391 in mountall (Ubuntu Quantal) "[FFe] support $XDG_RUNTIME_DIR" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/894391 15:10:11 jdstrand, thanks. if someone else can't get it through today, would be good to do it as soon as possible on monday. Want this landing before we go into desktop infrastructure freeze. 15:10:43 might I just add, once again, that late landing code like this is hard to deal with? 15:10:47 (if its ok to go in ;) ) 15:10:59 jdstrand, no argument from me. 15:11:12 jdstrand, foundations is aware and is sorry ... and will buy you beer at UDS :) 15:12:00 heh, well, at least someone from the security team 15:12:09 :) 15:12:19 .. on this one I think. 15:12:50 o/ 15:12:53 any other urgent FFE's or bug fixes that need help left, or have we pretty much quiesced? 15:12:59 go ogra 15:13:06 go ogra_ 15:13:17 * skaet goofed up her auto complete 15:13:32 popey, have the compiz bits (and its rdeps) been tested against arm this time (last abi bump i had to spend three days to fix them) 15:13:51 ogra_, not yet, only landed in a ppa a couple of hours ago 15:13:58 (though that was simply because the packagind had s/arm/foo/ across the board) 15:14:22 popey, but they will ? or do i need to plan to keep time available for it ? 15:14:43 hmm, my team has no arm hardware capable of testing compiz right now 15:14:52 so help needed there 15:14:53 .. 15:15:10 plars, balloons, ^ can you help popey 15:15:11 but you at least do build tests (and take a look at the logs if GLES was enabled ?) 15:15:53 popey, that would already help a lot ... 15:16:20 I'm gone until tuesday of next week, but we may have someone else who can give it a try. if we need to pull it from the ppa just shoot us a link and we can help take a look 15:16:23 (last time the world was built for GL ... which is clearly visible in the logs for example) 15:16:34 ogra_, ok, I'll add that to our testing. 15:16:37 thanks! 15:16:38 thx 15:16:38 .. 15:16:39 .. 15:17:24 before we move on, just want to check that everyone is ok with the dates I pasted at the start of the meeting? 15:17:43 :) 15:17:46 thats all *next month* ! 15:17:54 so far away :) 15:17:55 we're pretty compressed time wise 15:18:23 popey, seb128 are you going to be ok holding to the desktop infrastructure freeze next Thursday? (happens with the kernel freeze) 15:18:53 ogasawara, is the kernel freeze on track? 15:19:00 skaet, should be fine 15:19:05 yes 15:19:07 compiz updates is planned on monday 15:19:08 ogasawara: yep, planned for next week 15:19:10 and unity on wednesday 15:19:28 thanks seb128, popey, ogasawara 15:19:49 doko, no other toolchain uploads to worry about? 15:20:23 the only toolchain uploads I do worry about are glib2.0, gtk, and qt 15:21:51 glib and gtk got updated to the GNOME 3.6 stable version so no change expected for those 15:22:48 doko, what's the issue with glib2.0? I've seen several bug fixes go in for it recently, but not sure what's outstanding. 15:23:08 and what's left with qt? 15:24:03 skaet, I see it's now built on arm after the fifth upload, so probably it's ok. however qt4-x11 didn't build yet on arm, and webkit fails. likely a launchpad issue, Laney is trying to work around it 15:24:31 doko, thanks. will keep eye open then for it. 15:24:48 ahoy 15:24:59 waiting for post-b2 skew to sort itself out so that I can test webkit locally 15:25:30 thanks Laney. 15:26:32 cautiously optimistic 15:26:41 providing someone toolchainy lets the make patch in 15:27:41 Laney, could you at least forward this upstream? 15:27:48 if it's not yet there ... 15:28:20 I think it was 15:28:26 I'll try to find the reference 15:28:33 it's certainly not applied though 15:30:38 ..? 15:30:41 doko: https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/bug-make/2009-07/msg00012.html is what I can come up with ATM 15:30:49 yes, we can discuss this elsewhere 15:30:50 sorry 15:31:04 no worries. good to get it resolved. 15:31:08 seb128, popey - there are a couple of critical bugs on the tracking list. At least one is stale (I recognize it, and will mark it fix released ;) ) Could you both take a pass at http://reports.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-q-tracking-bug-tasks.html ? and make sure all the criticals either have a 12.10 date or quantal-updates beside them, so we can make sure we're focusing on the right things for the next wee 15:31:08 k? 15:31:49 skaet, it's on my todo for today, sorry I got a behind this week catching up after holidays and with beta2 15:32:06 thanks seb128 15:32:07 they let you do holidays ?!? 15:32:07 ogra_, if foundations could do the same, it would help make sure we're all focusing on the important bigs, since those lists are rather long. 15:32:17 yup 15:32:57 ogra_, yeah, not sure what they were thinking :p 15:33:02 :) 15:33:14 ogasawara, and kernel team is the champ of the long list right now... ;) 15:33:38 yeah, we should go without kernels, they always have bugs :) 15:33:56 ogra_: +1 :) 15:34:02 hurd++ 15:34:08 skaet: I think that's due to the CVE's which we've discussed earlier 15:34:08 That's it, I'm switching to GNU/Hurd! 15:34:08 thats also a kernel 15:34:37 anyhow, will be using that list exclusively for the next couple of weeks to make sure the important fixes land in 12.10 - so if you have bug fix that needs to land, but is not on that list, please let me know and I'll help sort. 15:35:04 ogasawara, yeah, that's it mostly, but for the high/criticals - would be good to know what will land this week, and what's definitely SRU teritory 15:35:14 skaet: ack 15:36:13 Daviey, arosales - there's one critical that seems stalled, but is on the list - wanting to know if its really critical, and likely to land? https://bugs.launchpad.net/juju/+bug/1026102 15:36:14 Launchpad bug 1026102 in Ubuntu Quantal "Openstack provider does not validate https certs" [Critical,New] 15:37:43 anyhow, if we can have a nice crisp list by next Thursday, would very much appreciate, since there's only a couple of days after that until final freeze. 15:38:15 .... 15:39:07 * skaet will be continuing to ping out of band on these for the next week or two... 15:40:01 skaet: looking 15:40:12 Riddell, ScottK, knome, stgraber, highvoltage, scott-work, gilir, ogra_, infinity - please review: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/QuantalQuetzal/ReleaseManifest and make sure all the last changes for your images are there. 15:40:38 in particular for gilir, does lubuntu still want to carry alternate images? 15:40:46 skaet: will follow u, thanks 15:40:49 skaet: edubuntu looks good 15:41:06 skaet, yes 15:41:20 arm looks fine too 15:42:24 thanks, ok, please sign the manifest in the "Target" column by entering the date. :) 15:43:06 other topic... for same audience ;) 15:43:11 Riddell, ScottK, knome, stgraber, highvoltage, scott-work, gilir, ogra_, infinity - could you please review the test cases on the iso tracker for your flavors/community ports - and make sure they are accurate for the mandatory/run once/optional? For the release we will be aiming for 100% coverage. Please work with balloons to adjust any testcases, if necessary, before October 4, 2012. 15:43:11 * smartboyhw thinks there will be edit conflict:P 15:43:28 * skaet is old hand at resolving edit conflicts, don't worry. 15:43:32 LOL 15:43:40 skaet, k 15:43:55 skaet: we're hammering rls-q-tracking pretty hard at the moment FWIW - it's down about 12 or so over the last two days 15:43:59 :-) yes, the mandatory/run-once/optional are important 15:44:51 cjwatson, thank you. :) 15:45:03 (and we have no actual critical-priority bugs there right now) 15:45:16 *\o/* 15:45:55 o/ 15:46:10 keep up the good work. other teams, feel free to be competitive in terms of getting most fixes in ;) 15:46:24 and all critical bugs off the list. 15:46:30 go ScottK 15:46:54 I've started to be very skeptical of UIFe requests for things that are just tweaks/new functions. 15:47:23 I think we should do that generally as people need to be focused on fixing stuff and not wouldn't it be nice if ... ideas. 15:47:43 I've also starting saying no to nice to have FFe's too. 15:47:48 .. 15:48:50 ScottK, agreed. We're out of time for nice to haves. 15:49:28 yesterday's UIFe has a quote from Mark that makes that point as well, I think. from a UIFe perspective at least. 15:50:35 any one else have comment? questions? 15:50:48 or are we pretty much at the end of the meeting now? 15:50:56 Do we know where we are on the https change for shopping? 15:51:05 That's more than slightly essential. 15:51:30 I thought I saw that Laney approved it already, but haven't double checked it this morning. 15:51:46 seb128, ^ any update? 15:52:08 let me check 15:52:09 it's merged 15:52:36 we should probably cherry-pick it into the distro 15:52:59 please 15:53:09 there is an update planned for next week 15:53:22 do you prefer than to go earlier? 15:53:28 definitely 15:53:28 e.g to try to land it today? 15:53:39 is the server ready? 15:54:15 if we can pull the pieces together. more time we have to shake it down, better it will be. 15:54:26 Laney, server is ready 15:54:38 OK, I'll upload it shortly then 15:54:39 skaet, Laney: I will have a go at backporting it today 15:54:40 oh 15:54:43 even better :P 15:54:47 Laney, or do you want to do it? 15:54:52 Thanks seb128 ! :) 15:54:55 no preference 15:54:55 yw 15:56:17 .. 15:56:22 The only other thing that I thought was really essential was the online search privacy change and I approved that yesterday and I see bits of it are landing. 15:56:23 #endmeeting