#title #ubuntu-meeting Meeting Meeting started by cjohnston at 22:01:14 UTC. The full logs are available at http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2012/ubuntu-meeting.2012-09-20-22.01.log.html . == Meeting summary == ''LINK:'' http://www.flickr.com/photos/ubuntu-srbija/7989009305/in/photostream (uros1, 22:35:00) Meeting ended at 22:46:26 UTC. == Votes == * Voting for AnasEmad for Ubuntu Membership For: 6 Against: 0 Abstained: 0 == Action items == * (none) == People present (lines said) == * uros1 (42) * cjohnston (31) * AnasEmad (19) * meetingology (17) * hggdh (16) * s-fox (16) * IdleOne (7) * bojce (5) * iulian (5) * HazRPG (1) * MohamedAlaa98 (1) * EgyParadox (1) * micahg (1) == Full Log == 22:01:14 #startmeeting 22:01:14 Meeting started Thu Sep 20 22:01:14 2012 UTC. The chair is cjohnston. 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If we are unable to make it through the entire list due to time constraints, then at the next meeting we will pick up where we left off 22:03:21 The format for the meeting is as follows: We will go through the list of applicants one by one, by date of application (FIFO). 22:03:31 Each applicant should introduce themselves (1-5 sentences) and provide links to their Ubuntu Wiki page. After the introduction the members of the Membership Review Board will review the pages and, if needed, ask the applicant further questions. 22:04:03 cjohnston, add IdleOne to voters :) 22:04:11 During this time it is encouraged for other members of the community to show their support for the applicant. Do not be alarmed if the members of the Membership Review Board are quiet during this time; they are most likely reading wiki/launchpad/forum/other pages and deciding how they are going to vote. 22:04:16 #voters IdleOne 22:04:16 Current voters: IdleOne cjohnston hggdh iulian micahg s-fox 22:04:22 thank you 22:04:28 hehe 22:04:30 When the board is ready to vote, they will publicly vote in the channel with either +1, 0, or -1 (for membership, abstain, and against membership, respectively). If the sum of those numbers is positive, then the applicant is now an official Ubuntu member! (feel free congratulate them!) 22:05:02 Now, with any further ado, lets get started with the first applicant... 22:05:13 AnasEmad: your up 22:05:21 yes 22:05:24 i am here 22:05:42 i am Anas Emad from Egypt, member of Ubuntu eg team 22:05:43 AnasEmad: Could you please introduce yourself? ^ 22:06:16 i am Public Relations Representative in Ubuntu egypt team 22:06:47 i help our local team in cairo to connect more people 22:07:04 and this my wiki page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AnasEmad 22:07:34 AnasEmad: what is Qafeer? a business? 22:07:41 my startup 22:07:51 What do you do there 22:08:03 for marketing solutions (working with open source technology) 22:08:09 i am co-founder 22:08:14 Ok.. cool. thanks 22:08:41 my startup Qafeer support open source from first day 22:08:56 in Qafeer we used Ubuntu as main OS 22:09:15 AnasEmad: Not anymore? 22:09:24 we make a lot of events and install festivals in cairo 22:09:32 and mansoura and Alexandria 22:09:51 * iulian thinks that was a typo. 22:10:02 next starday we have next SFD in egypt 22:10:12 in Menoufia 22:10:27 i will talking there in ubuntu session 22:10:58 Ok... lets vote.. :-) 22:11:09 #vote Voting for AnasEmad for Ubuntu Membership 22:11:09 Please vote on: Voting for AnasEmad for Ubuntu Membership 22:11:09 Public votes can be registered by saying +1, +0 or -1 in channel, (private votes don't work yet, but when they do it will be by messaging the channel followed by +1/-1/+0 to me) 22:11:17 +1 22:11:17 +1 received from IdleOne 22:11:21 +1 22:11:21 +1 received from cjohnston 22:11:23 +1 22:11:23 +1 received from s-fox 22:11:27 +1 AnasEmad -- thank you for your support and help 22:11:27 +1 AnasEmad -- thank you for your support and help received from hggdh 22:11:30 +1 22:11:30 +1 received from micahg 22:11:31 +1 22:11:31 +1 received from iulian 22:11:56 Congrats AnasEmad and Welcome :) 22:12:08 Congratulations 22:12:10 #endvote 22:12:10 Voting ended on: Voting for AnasEmad for Ubuntu Membership 22:12:10 Votes for:6 Votes against:0 Abstentions:0 22:12:10 Motion carried 22:12:12 congrats bro :) 22:12:17 congrats AnasEmad :) 22:12:18 Thanks everyone :) 22:12:21 wow 22:12:23 congrats 22:12:23 Wow 22:12:32 AnasEmad: welcome sir 22:12:45 Next up... uros1 22:12:49 hello from Belgrade, is midnight here btw 22:12:50 Please introduce yourself 22:12:59 AnasEmad: Congrats dude :) 22:13:33 Well I`m ex journalist currently working for department of defence here in Serbia 22:14:01 and only Ubuntu user in department for now, but still working on issue 22:14:08 Nice mixture. :) 22:14:23 In LoCo team i`m member for, let`s see 6 years 22:14:32 During last few years active member and sort of team manager and devoted presenter of Ubuntu 22:14:47 My wiki is here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Uros%20-Ubuntu%20member%20aspirant%20page%20-%202012 22:16:22 jono escaped... 22:17:42 uros1: why do you have no testimonials for you? 22:18:36 missed that part... 22:18:42 my bad 22:19:07 rather important part, this is where we get others to confirm what you have done 22:19:37 uros1, i would advise you ask members of your loco to support your application :) 22:19:52 myno problems, bojce: ping 22:19:58 preferably some who are also Ubuntu Members 22:20:10 yea no problem 22:20:13 bojce: 22:20:35 ok, uros1 is great spoksmen and one of reapy great ubuntu presenters 22:20:59 uros1: I am curious to know how come yours and bojce wiki page are almost identical, could you explain this? 22:21:04 for all bojce is coordinator of Serbian LoCo 22:21:56 we do work together 22:22:47 is there anybody else in the room that can vouch for uros1 and bojce? 22:22:51 why is that any problem? 22:23:21 uros1: not a problem, just very uncommon 22:23:42 we are running team for four ears 22:23:51 two reapprovalls, 22:24:22 reapprovals? you mean you were Ubuntu member before? 22:24:38 no for LoCo team reapproval 22:24:55 my concern is that the pages look more like a team reapproval page than a membership page.. I want to see what each person has done, and the almost exact copy is a little too close for my comfort, especially when the only other person to speak on your behalf is the person who is also up for membership. 22:25:23 how many people are in the loco that regularly attend ? 22:25:45 where, on presentations or in meetings? 22:26:02 both :) 22:26:06 on presentations average nomber is, about 50 22:26:28 in regular meetings on irc mabe 5 to 10 top 22:26:36 *mabe 22:26:39 okay, does this group know you are applying for ubuntu membership / 22:26:41 ? 22:27:16 yes shure its not secret 22:28:00 did you ask them to support your application with comments on your wiki ? 22:28:21 no missed that part, sorry 22:29:03 okay, do you think you could see about that done for the next meeting? :) 22:30:23 what i think is: no problems to any kind of support from serbia team, we are one of the best europian teams 22:30:50 in small country we managed almost 5000 members and we work hard and god 22:30:55 I agree with s-fox. I would like to see testimonials from other members of the LoCo and also from current Ubuntu members. 22:31:17 I don`t se there is a one small problem with testemonials what so ever 22:31:48 okay no problem 22:32:04 still maybe one, burt this is my problem 22:32:22 uros1: the whole thing is we use the testimonials as an independent confirmation of the claims 22:32:45 yea, sure 22:33:28 I tried to follow the pictures linked in the wiki, but they have no names associated 22:33:43 and there is no picture of you in the wiki/LP... 22:33:55 my picture? 22:34:08 moment please 22:34:46 uros1: what I was trying to do was match you with the pics. Now it is too late, I think 22:35:00 http://www.flickr.com/photos/ubuntu-srbija/7989009305/in/photostream 22:36:07 ok i see 22:36:16 so no problems 22:36:36 lets vote and reject me 22:37:12 we do not want to reject you. I propose we do *not* vote, and give you time to get the testimonials 22:37:23 +1 hd 22:37:24 f 22:37:25 g 22:37:29 +1 hggdh 22:37:50 uros1, and bojce... It looks like you two both do great work, but we are having a couple of problems as a board with being able to determine this. As we have discussed, it would be nice if both of you could get testimonials from people in your LoCo and also from others who are Ubuntu Members so that we have a little more to go off of. It would also be nice if you could each make some changes to your pages so that 22:38:49 ok, no problem 22:38:51 We do not want to vote on either of you today, in hopes that you will take the time prior to the next meeting to make a few small improvements to your applications, and then we will have a better picture of who you are and ask you to each reapply for the next meeting. 22:39:52 uros1 or bojce, do you have any other questions for us? 22:39:55 i think this is not fair, buit thats me 22:40:28 uros1, bojce: please get some testimonials (and tags some names in the photos). The wikis are fantastic, but we *NEED* to have confirmation 22:41:02 uros1: I guarantee you I want, with all my heart, to approve you 22:41:32 uros1: I didn't make it on my first application either.. the issue is that none of us know you, so it is very helpful to us to have others say things about you and the work that you do in order for us to gain insight into the things that we do not know. 22:42:18 Well I`m not stay awake to just tell you a story 22:42:37 so okay no problem 22:42:42 stay cool 22:42:53 Also, I'm not sure if the 12:00 utc board may be a better time fit for you? 22:43:06 working hour 22:43:28 I wondered if that was the case 22:43:59 uros1: we are not going to vote now on you and bojce. We will keep you in the calendar for next meeting (in two weeks) 22:44:09 so let`s go to sleep, have god night or whatever time is 22:44:36 uros1: you too. Sorry for this, but we need confirmations 22:45:05 ok, see you in 2 weeks 22:45:08 bojce: as explained above, we are not going to vote on your application. Do you have any comments? 22:45:11 heh 22:45:28 no, it`s ok... 22:46:20 Thanks to those who came, and congrats to AnasEmad 22:46:26 #endmeeting Generated by MeetBot 0.1.5 (http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology)