22:01:14 <cjohnston> #startmeeting
22:01:14 <meetingology> Meeting started Thu Sep 20 22:01:14 2012 UTC.  The chair is cjohnston. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology.
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22:01:14 <s-fox> *waves*
22:01:30 <cjohnston> #chair cjohnston
22:01:30 <meetingology> Current chairs: cjohnston
22:01:47 <cjohnston> #voters cjohnston hggdh s-fox iulian micahg
22:01:47 <meetingology> Current voters: cjohnston hggdh iulian micahg s-fox
22:02:50 <cjohnston> Hello and welcome to the Ubuntu Membership Review Board meeting for 20 September 2012. The wiki page for the Review Boards are available here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Membership/Boards
22:03:08 <cjohnston> We will attempt to get through all of the applicants that have added themselves to that list before today's meeting. If we are unable to make it through the entire list due to time constraints, then at the next meeting we will pick up where we left off
22:03:21 <cjohnston> The format for the meeting is as follows: We will go through the list of applicants one by one, by date of application (FIFO).
22:03:31 <cjohnston> Each applicant should introduce themselves (1-5 sentences) and provide links to their Ubuntu Wiki page. After the introduction the members of the Membership Review Board will review the pages and, if needed, ask the applicant further questions.
22:04:03 <s-fox> cjohnston,  add IdleOne  to voters :)
22:04:11 <cjohnston> During this time it is encouraged for other members of the community to show their support for the applicant. Do not be alarmed if the members of the Membership Review Board are quiet during this time; they are most likely reading wiki/launchpad/forum/other pages and deciding how they are going to vote.
22:04:16 <cjohnston> #voters IdleOne
22:04:16 <meetingology> Current voters: IdleOne cjohnston hggdh iulian micahg s-fox
22:04:22 <IdleOne> thank you
22:04:28 <s-fox> hehe
22:04:30 <cjohnston> When the board is ready to vote, they will publicly vote in the channel with either +1, 0, or -1 (for membership, abstain, and against membership, respectively). If the sum of those numbers is positive, then the applicant is now an official Ubuntu member! (feel free congratulate them!)
22:05:02 <cjohnston> Now, with any further ado, lets get started with the first applicant...
22:05:13 <cjohnston> AnasEmad: your up
22:05:21 <AnasEmad> yes
22:05:24 <AnasEmad> i am here
22:05:42 <AnasEmad> i am Anas Emad from Egypt, member of Ubuntu eg team
22:05:43 <iulian> AnasEmad: Could you please introduce yourself? ^
22:06:16 <AnasEmad> i am Public Relations Representative  in Ubuntu egypt team
22:06:47 <AnasEmad> i help our local team in cairo to connect more people
22:07:04 <AnasEmad> and this  my wiki page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AnasEmad
22:07:34 <cjohnston> AnasEmad: what is Qafeer? a business?
22:07:41 <AnasEmad> my startup
22:07:51 <cjohnston> What do you do there
22:08:03 <AnasEmad> for marketing solutions (working with open source technology)
22:08:09 <AnasEmad> i am co-founder
22:08:14 <cjohnston> Ok.. cool. thanks
22:08:41 <AnasEmad> my startup Qafeer support open source from first day
22:08:56 <AnasEmad> in Qafeer we used Ubuntu as main OS
22:09:15 <iulian> AnasEmad: Not anymore?
22:09:24 <AnasEmad> we make a lot of events and install festivals in cairo
22:09:32 <AnasEmad> and mansoura and Alexandria
22:09:51 * iulian thinks that was a typo.
22:10:02 <AnasEmad> next starday we have next SFD in egypt
22:10:12 <AnasEmad> in Menoufia
22:10:27 <AnasEmad> i will talking there in ubuntu session
22:10:58 <cjohnston> Ok... lets vote.. :-)
22:11:09 <cjohnston> #vote Voting for AnasEmad for Ubuntu Membership
22:11:09 <meetingology> Please vote on: Voting for AnasEmad for Ubuntu Membership
22:11:09 <meetingology> Public votes can be registered by saying +1, +0 or -1 in channel, (private votes don't work yet, but when they do it will be by messaging the channel followed by +1/-1/+0 to me)
22:11:17 <IdleOne> +1
22:11:17 <meetingology> +1 received from IdleOne
22:11:21 <cjohnston> +1
22:11:21 <meetingology> +1 received from cjohnston
22:11:23 <s-fox> +1
22:11:23 <meetingology> +1 received from s-fox
22:11:27 <hggdh> +1 AnasEmad -- thank you for your support and help
22:11:27 <meetingology> +1 AnasEmad -- thank you for your support and help received from hggdh
22:11:30 <micahg> +1
22:11:30 <meetingology> +1 received from micahg
22:11:31 <iulian> +1
22:11:31 <meetingology> +1 received from iulian
22:11:56 <IdleOne> Congrats AnasEmad and Welcome :)
22:12:08 <EgyParadox> Congratulations
22:12:10 <cjohnston> #endvote
22:12:10 <meetingology> Voting ended on: Voting for AnasEmad for Ubuntu Membership
22:12:10 <meetingology> Votes for:6 Votes against:0 Abstentions:0
22:12:10 <meetingology> Motion carried
22:12:12 <MohamedAlaa98> congrats bro :)
22:12:17 <s-fox> congrats AnasEmad  :)
22:12:18 <AnasEmad> Thanks everyone :)
22:12:21 <AnasEmad> wow
22:12:23 <bojce> congrats
22:12:23 <AnasEmad> Wow
22:12:32 <hggdh> AnasEmad: welcome sir
22:12:45 <cjohnston> Next up... uros1
22:12:49 <uros1> hello from Belgrade, is midnight here btw
22:12:50 <cjohnston> Please introduce yourself
22:12:59 <HazRPG> AnasEmad: Congrats dude :)
22:13:33 <uros1> Well I`m ex journalist currently working for department of defence here in Serbia
22:14:01 <uros1> and only Ubuntu user in department for now, but still working on issue
22:14:08 <iulian> Nice mixture. :)
22:14:23 <uros1> In LoCo team i`m member for, let`s see 6 years
22:14:32 <uros1> During last few years active member and sort of team manager and devoted presenter of Ubuntu
22:14:47 <uros1> My wiki is here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Uros%20-Ubuntu%20member%20aspirant%20page%20-%202012
22:16:22 <uros1> jono escaped...
22:17:42 <hggdh> uros1: why do you have no testimonials for you?
22:18:36 <uros1> missed that part...
22:18:42 <uros1> my bad
22:19:07 <hggdh> rather important part, this is where we get others to confirm what you have done
22:19:37 <s-fox> uros1,  i would advise you ask members of your loco to support your application :)
22:19:52 <uros1> myno problems, bojce: ping
22:19:58 <cjohnston> preferably some who are also Ubuntu Members
22:20:10 <uros1> yea no problem
22:20:13 <uros1> bojce:
22:20:35 <bojce> ok, uros1 is great spoksmen and one of reapy great ubuntu presenters
22:20:59 <IdleOne> uros1: I am curious to know how come yours and bojce wiki page are almost identical, could you explain this?
22:21:04 <uros1> for all bojce is coordinator of Serbian LoCo
22:21:56 <uros1> we do work together
22:22:47 <hggdh> is there anybody else in the room that can vouch for uros1 and bojce?
22:22:51 <uros1> why is that any problem?
22:23:21 <IdleOne> uros1: not a problem, just very uncommon
22:23:42 <uros1> we are running team for four ears
22:23:51 <uros1> two reapprovalls,
22:24:22 <IdleOne> reapprovals? you mean you were Ubuntu member before?
22:24:38 <uros1> no for LoCo team reapproval
22:24:55 <cjohnston> my concern is that the pages look more like a team reapproval page than a membership page.. I want to see what each person has done, and the almost exact copy is a little too close for my comfort, especially when the only other person to speak on your behalf is the person who is also up for membership.
22:25:23 <s-fox> how many people are in the loco that regularly attend  ?
22:25:45 <uros1> where, on presentations or in meetings?
22:26:02 <s-fox> both :)
22:26:06 <uros1> on presentations average nomber is, about 50
22:26:28 <uros1> in regular meetings on irc mabe 5 to 10 top
22:26:36 <uros1> *mabe
22:26:39 <s-fox> okay, does this group know you are applying for ubuntu membership /
22:26:41 <s-fox> ?
22:27:16 <uros1> yes shure its not secret
22:28:00 <s-fox> did you ask them to support your application with comments on your wiki ?
22:28:21 <uros1> no missed that part, sorry
22:29:03 <s-fox> okay,  do you think you could see about that done for the next meeting? :)
22:30:23 <uros1> what i think is: no problems to any kind of support from serbia team, we are one of the best europian teams
22:30:50 <uros1> in small country we managed almost 5000 members and we work hard and god
22:30:55 <IdleOne> I agree with s-fox. I would like to see testimonials from other members of the LoCo and also from current Ubuntu members.
22:31:17 <uros1> I don`t se there is  a one small problem with testemonials what so ever
22:31:48 <uros1> okay no problem
22:32:04 <uros1> still maybe one, burt this is my problem
22:32:22 <hggdh> uros1: the whole thing is we use the testimonials as an independent confirmation of the claims
22:32:45 <uros1> yea, sure
22:33:28 <hggdh> I tried to follow the pictures linked in the wiki, but they have no names associated
22:33:43 <hggdh> and there is no picture of you in the wiki/LP...
22:33:55 <uros1> my picture?
22:34:08 <uros1> moment please
22:34:46 <hggdh> uros1: what I was trying to do was match you with the pics. Now it is too late, I think
22:35:00 <uros1> http://www.flickr.com/photos/ubuntu-srbija/7989009305/in/photostream
22:36:07 <uros1> ok i see
22:36:16 <uros1> so no problems
22:36:36 <uros1> lets vote and reject me
22:37:12 <hggdh> we do not want to reject you. I propose we do *not* vote, and give you time to get the testimonials
22:37:23 <s-fox> +1 hd
22:37:24 <s-fox> f
22:37:25 <s-fox> g
22:37:29 <s-fox> +1 hggdh
22:37:50 <cjohnston> uros1, and bojce... It looks like you two both do great work, but we are having a couple of problems as a board with being able to determine this. As we have discussed, it would be nice if both of you could get testimonials from people in your LoCo and also from others who are Ubuntu Members so that we have a little more to go off of. It would also be nice if you could each make some changes to your pages so that
22:38:49 <bojce> ok, no problem
22:38:51 <cjohnston> We do not want to vote on either of you today, in hopes that you will take the time prior to the next meeting to make a few small improvements to your applications, and then we will have a better picture of who you are and ask you to each reapply for the next meeting.
22:39:52 <cjohnston> uros1 or bojce, do you have any other questions for us?
22:39:55 <uros1> i think this is not fair, buit thats me
22:40:28 <hggdh> uros1, bojce: please get some testimonials (and tags some names in the photos). The wikis are fantastic, but we *NEED* to have confirmation
22:41:02 <hggdh> uros1: I guarantee you I want, with all my heart, to approve you
22:41:32 <cjohnston> uros1: I didn't make it on my first application either.. the issue is that none of us know you, so it is very helpful to us to have others say things about you and the work that you do in order for us to gain insight into the things that we do not know.
22:42:18 <uros1> Well I`m not stay awake to just tell you a story
22:42:37 <uros1> so okay no problem
22:42:42 <uros1> stay cool
22:42:53 <cjohnston> Also, I'm not sure if the 12:00 utc board may be a better time fit for you?
22:43:06 <uros1> working hour
22:43:28 <cjohnston> I wondered if that was the case
22:43:59 <hggdh> uros1: we are not going to vote now on you and bojce. We will keep you in the calendar for next meeting (in two weeks)
22:44:09 <uros1> so let`s go to sleep, have god night or whatever time is
22:44:36 <hggdh> uros1: you too. Sorry for this, but we need confirmations
22:45:05 <bojce> ok, see you in 2 weeks
22:45:08 <hggdh> bojce: as explained above, we are not going to vote on your application. Do you have any comments?
22:45:11 <hggdh> heh
22:45:28 <bojce> no, it`s ok...
22:46:20 <cjohnston> Thanks to those who came, and congrats to AnasEmad
22:46:26 <cjohnston> #endmeeting