22:12:28 <iulian> #startmeeting
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22:12:45 <iulian> Hello and welcome to the Ubuntu Membership Review Board. The wiki page for the Review Board is available here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Membership/Boards.
22:13:00 <iulian> The format for the meeting is as follows: We will go through the list of applicants one by one, by date of application (FIFO).
22:13:27 <iulian> Each applicant should introduce themselves (1-5 sentences) and provide links to their Ubuntu Wiki page. After the introduction the members of the Membership Review Board will review the pages and, if needed, ask the applicant further questions.
22:13:58 <iulian> During this time it is encouraged for other members of the community to show their support for the applicant. Do not be alarmed if the members of the Membership Review Board are quiet during this time; they are most likely reading wiki/launchpad/forum/other pages and deciding how they are going to vote.
22:14:29 <iulian> Is Ravi325 here?
22:14:47 <IdleOne> Don't believe they are
22:15:04 * iulian waits a couple of minutes and then moves on to the next one.
22:15:33 <hggdh> er. I am available to vote, if you are talling who is here
22:16:28 <iulian> OK, time's up.
22:16:36 <iulian> notgary: You're next, fire away!
22:16:42 <notgary> Hey...
22:16:47 * iulian waves.
22:17:47 <notgary> Hi, my name's Chris Wilson, also known as notgary. I'm a software developer in my day job and am interested in using what I learn there to help Ubuntu. I work mostly on the papercuts project and have recently taken over leadership of it, and am working on a plan for making it a prominent project within the larger Ubuntu community.
22:18:12 <notgary> You can find my wiki page here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/notgary
22:19:03 <notgary> If anyone has any questions, I'll be more than happy to answer them.
22:19:22 <hggdh> nice testimonial from bilal
22:19:32 <IdleOne> agreed
22:20:16 <iulian> notgary: I see that you're a member of unity community hackers on Launchpad. Are you helping out with unity as well?
22:20:32 <micahg> notgary: I notice that you're a heavy contributor to the papercuts project, but I don't see any sponsored uploads, are most of these fixes pushed directly upstream?
22:21:24 * hggdh holds on a question, waiting for the current ones to clear out
22:21:50 <notgary> iulian: I joined the unity community hackers intending to contribute there, but have not yet gotten round to it.
22:22:10 <iulian> Right, okay.
22:23:12 <notgary> micahg: I've pushed very few patches actually. Most of my work has been of a management role, triaging bug reports, filtering out the non-papercuts, prodding developers to take a look at them, and generally making it easier for developers to know what needs dones.
22:23:37 <micahg> notgary: ah, alright, still very important stuff
22:24:16 <hggdh> and I remember notgary around
22:24:48 <iulian> Brilliant. hggdh, you've got a question for him.
22:25:04 <hggdh> notgary: given your work with bugs, why didn't you (yet) apply for Bug Control (this is a question with my Bug Control hat on)?
22:25:26 * hggdh sees ~ 1,200 bus touched by notgary)
22:25:37 * bluesabre claps.
22:26:17 <notgary> hggdh: Just not gotten round to it. It's on my Ubuntu todo list, along with many other things :). If you think I qualify, then I'll go ahead and apply soon.
22:27:06 <hggdh> notgary: given your work on papercuts, and bilal's support, you have a pretty good stading to apply. Of course, it will depend on what you show us ;-)
22:27:26 <notgary> hggdh: Of course :)
22:27:39 <hggdh> notgary: so, what else do you intend to do from now on?
22:28:21 * cjohnston notes that he wants to/is learning Django.. I happen to know a project that can use help
22:28:27 <cjohnston> ;-)
22:29:15 <micahg> notgary: I notice you're a software engineer, have you ever thought of doing Ubuntu development work? (I guess I can have my DMB hat on since hggdh has his bug control one on :))
22:29:29 <hggdh> heh
22:30:12 <notgary> hggdh: Community interest in the papercuts project seems to be faltering. The bug mail is very quiet when I'm not working on them, and I intend to get people interested. The first step is to put together a questionnaire to find out exactly why that's the case, which can be distributed with the help of OMG Ubuntu (once I actually ask them :)). Once the results are in, then the way forward can be planned.
22:30:12 * cjohnston takes all hats away :-P
22:30:29 <iulian> Haha.
22:30:33 * micahg hands cjohnston a shiny summit hat
22:30:43 <cjohnston> ooo... shiny...
22:31:00 * hggdh inscribes 'R' in cjohnston's new shiny hat
22:32:41 <notgary> micahg: Ubuntu development work is always something that I've been planing on getting involved with. I mentioned earlier the existence of my ubuntu todo list. Membership of the Core Development team is on there, but finding time to learn the code has been a bit problematic, but I don't think that'll be the case much longer.
22:32:59 <hggdh> I am ready
22:33:17 <cjohnston> notgary: develop a couple extra hours in the day, then we can all be core devs ;-)
22:33:26 <iulian> #voters micahg IdleOne cjohnston hggdh iulian
22:33:26 <meetingology> Current voters: IdleOne cjohnston hggdh iulian micahg
22:33:38 <iulian> #vote Grant notgary Ubuntu membership
22:33:38 <meetingology> Please vote on: Grant notgary Ubuntu membership
22:33:38 <meetingology> Public votes can be registered by saying +1, +0 or -1 in channel, (private votes don't work yet, but when they do it will be by messaging the channel followed by +1/-1/+0 to me)
22:33:44 <iulian> +1
22:33:44 <meetingology> +1 received from iulian
22:33:46 <IdleOne> +1
22:33:46 <meetingology> +1 received from IdleOne
22:33:48 <micahg> +1
22:33:48 <meetingology> +1 received from micahg
22:33:55 <hggdh> +1
22:33:55 <meetingology> +1 received from hggdh
22:34:22 * IdleOne pokes cjohnston
22:34:25 <cjohnston> o..I have to vote? I was looking at my shiny hat
22:34:25 <iulian> cjohnston!
22:34:27 <cjohnston> +1
22:34:27 <meetingology> +1 received from cjohnston
22:34:32 <iulian> #endvote
22:34:32 <meetingology> Voting ended on: Grant notgary Ubuntu membership
22:34:32 <meetingology> Votes for:5 Votes against:0 Abstentions:0
22:34:32 <meetingology> Motion carried
22:34:35 <IdleOne> Congrats!
22:34:37 <iulian> notgary: Congratulations.
22:34:42 <hggdh> notgary: you may want to touch bases with balloons, on promoting papercuts
22:34:43 <bluesabre> Congrats notgary!
22:34:50 <cielak> notgary: congrats!
22:34:51 <hggdh> notgary: welcome in deaar sir :-)
22:35:00 <iulian> bluesabre: Hello. Could you please introduce yourself?
22:35:01 <micahg> notgary: don't worry about the membership, people will poke you when it's time to apply, as for the code, there are so many different packages it's hard to "learn the code", rather just find something you want to fix and go for it
22:35:04 <notgary> Thank you all very much. I really appreciate your support :)
22:35:37 <notgary> micahg: Thanks for the advice. I'll do that.
22:35:40 <micahg> notgary: there are no shortage of Qt and C++ packages in teh archive that need help :)
22:36:18 <hggdh> indeed, and a lot of packaging issues to look at as well (where no code is necessary, mostly)
22:36:26 <bluesabre> Hi everyone!  I'm Sean Davis (bluesabre).  I'm a Xubuntu Team member and have spent some time with them reporting bugs initially, but now I've taken up some development work and maintain Parole and Catfish.  Here's my wiki page: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeanDavis
22:36:50 <bluesabre> Also, I help out with Xubuntu Artwork.  :-)
22:38:02 <bluesabre> I'd be happy to answer any questions you send my way.
22:38:31 <hggdh> bluesabre: how long have you been working with (x)ubuntu?
22:40:37 <bluesabre> hggdh: I started reporting bugs with Precise.  Starting with Quantal's development, I've been working with the team to resolve some of the artwork issues and revamping/maintaining Catfish and Parole.
22:41:39 <bluesabre> Currently I'm working on porting indicator-messages back to gtk2 for xubuntu, but it's slow-going.
22:42:58 <bluesabre> ^ specifically, started with Precise-beta
22:45:11 <iulian> Any more questions for bluesabre?
22:45:35 <iulian> #voters micahg IdleOne cjohnston hggdh iulian PabloRubianes
22:45:35 <meetingology> Current voters: IdleOne PabloRubianes cjohnston hggdh iulian micahg
22:45:45 <iulian> #vote Grant bluesabre Ubuntu membership
22:45:45 <meetingology> Please vote on: Grant bluesabre Ubuntu membership
22:45:45 <meetingology> Public votes can be registered by saying +1, +0 or -1 in channel, (private votes don't work yet, but when they do it will be by messaging the channel followed by +1/-1/+0 to me)
22:46:05 <cjohnston> +0  - I'd like to see some more sustained contributions... The work you are doing is great, please keep it up.
22:46:05 <meetingology> +0  - I'd like to see some more sustained contributions... The work you are doing is great, please keep it up. received from cjohnston
22:46:06 <iulian> +0 at the moment.
22:46:06 <meetingology> +0 at the moment. received from iulian
22:46:15 <micahg> +0, good work, but we're missing the 'sustained' requirement for membership
22:46:15 <meetingology> +0, good work, but we're missing the 'sustained' requirement for membership received from micahg
22:46:20 <hggdh> +0 needs more time to show sustained contributions; apart from that it is OK, but please try again in a few months
22:46:20 <meetingology> +0 needs more time to show sustained contributions; apart from that it is OK, but please try again in a few months received from hggdh
22:46:32 <IdleOne> +0 bluesabre I like what I see, testimonial from knome is strong
22:46:32 <meetingology> +0 bluesabre I like what I see, testimonial from knome is strong received from IdleOne
22:46:32 <PabloRubianes> +0 come back in a few time
22:46:32 <meetingology> +0 come back in a few time received from PabloRubianes
22:46:37 <iulian> #endvote
22:46:37 <meetingology> Voting ended on: Grant bluesabre Ubuntu membership
22:46:37 <meetingology> Votes for:0 Votes against:0 Abstentions:6
22:46:37 <meetingology> Deadlock, casting vote may be used
22:47:09 <IdleOne> basically we would like you to keep up the good work and come back in 3-6 months
22:47:30 <bluesabre> Bummer.  Thanks everyone for your consideration, I'll be back sometime after Quantal comes out.  :-)
22:47:37 <hggdh> yes. The *only* thing that halted me was the sustained piece
22:47:45 <iulian> bluesabre: We look forward to seeing you back!
22:47:50 <bluesabre> Thanks!
22:47:53 <cjohnston> bluesabre: that sounds like a great idea.. Please keep up the good work..
22:47:54 <hggdh> bluesabre: please do come back
22:48:08 <IdleOne> +1 on applying again
22:48:09 <iulian> jk-: Hello, you're up next.
22:48:24 <jk-> Hi folks, I'm Jeremy Kerr, from Perth, Australia
22:48:31 <jk-> My wiki page is up at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/JeremyKerr . I also have some technical info up at http://jk.ozlabs.org/ .
22:49:15 <jk-> My background and contributions are development-based, and I mostly work on kernel & plumbing-related projects.
22:49:32 <cjohnston> jk-: were you at Plumbers last week?
22:49:53 <jk-> Recently, this has been based around UEFI (mostly secure boot) and 64-bit ARM support in Ubuntu
22:50:07 <jk-> cjohnston: unfortunately not :/
22:50:34 <jk-> I've been there (presenting) in the last couple of years though
22:50:55 <cjohnston> I went this year.
22:51:26 <jk-> nice :) how was it?
22:52:01 <cjohnston> Well.. I attended more of LinuxCon... but I was there because Plumbers used Summit
22:52:19 <jk-> ah, right
22:52:39 <hggdh> jk-: what have you done for Ubuntu (apart from helping on Askubuntu)?
22:52:46 <jk-> oh wait, you're that Chris? I think I sat at your table at the closing party for the last Linaro Connect :)
22:53:03 <cjohnston> probably
22:53:23 <MrChrisDruif> Ugh, the downsides of having Chris in my mentions list... ;-)
22:53:27 <jk-> hggdh: Most of my development work is done with upstream
22:53:58 <cjohnston> Chris.. Chris.. Chris..
22:54:11 <cjohnston> :-P
22:54:11 <MrChrisDruif> Yeah Chris? ;-)
22:54:29 <hggdh> folks, back to the subject matter, please
22:54:41 <jk-> but I generally work on Ubuntu support for new machines - kernel hardware enablement work.
22:54:56 <hggdh> jk-: what I am trying to verify is what else you have done for the Ubuntu community
22:55:27 <IdleOne> jk-: You do anything with your Ubuntu LoCo?
22:55:54 <hggdh> for example, are you active on any #ubuntu channel? Do you answer email question from the MLs? etc
22:56:13 <jk-> ah, sure.
22:56:32 <jk-> I'm generally active on #ubuntu-kernel, and have recently been getting into #ubuntu-devel
22:58:09 <iulian> OK, thanks jk-.
22:58:14 <iulian> Do you guys have any more questions for him?
22:58:18 <hggdh> yes, I have seen you at -kernel
22:59:10 <jk-> I've also been contributing to the last 5 UDSes,
22:59:17 <IdleOne> How so?
22:59:21 <jk-> mostly around specifications for kernel projects
22:59:41 <jk-> running sessions based on suport for new hardware features
22:59:51 <hggdh> and how did the blueprints go?
23:00:14 <jk-> mostly well implemented
23:00:29 <jk-> about to kick off the cycle again for Q :)
23:00:53 <iulian> #vote Grant jk- Ubuntu membership.
23:00:53 <meetingology> Please vote on: Grant jk- Ubuntu membership.
23:00:53 <meetingology> Public votes can be registered by saying +1, +0 or -1 in channel, (private votes don't work yet, but when they do it will be by messaging the channel followed by +1/-1/+0 to me)
23:00:53 <jk-> (this time for ARMv8 support... )
23:01:02 <cjohnston> v8.. yippie
23:01:14 <cjohnston> +1
23:01:14 <meetingology> +1 received from cjohnston
23:01:23 <IdleOne> +1
23:01:23 <meetingology> +1 received from IdleOne
23:01:28 <PabloRubianes> +1
23:01:28 <meetingology> +1 received from PabloRubianes
23:01:29 <hggdh> +1 but, as a note to all future candidates, *please* make sure you show community-related work
23:01:29 <meetingology> +1 but, as a note to all future candidates, *please* make sure you show community-related work received from hggdh
23:01:30 * iulian thinks he should've used #voters first.
23:01:31 <iulian> +1
23:01:31 <meetingology> +1 received from iulian
23:01:36 <micahg> +1
23:01:36 <meetingology> +1 received from micahg
23:01:49 <iulian> #endvote
23:01:49 <meetingology> Voting ended on: Grant jk- Ubuntu membership.
23:01:49 <meetingology> Votes for:6 Votes against:0 Abstentions:0
23:01:49 <meetingology> Motion carried
23:01:58 <hggdh> jk-: welcome in!
23:02:04 <IdleOne> Congrats jk-
23:02:06 <micahg> iulian: I believe #voters is per meeting until changed or ended, but I could be wrong
23:02:12 <jk-> awesome, thanks guys :)
23:02:12 <iulian> Congrats jk-.
23:02:23 <PabloRubianes> congrats jk-
23:02:28 <jk-> ("guys" being the inclusive version)
23:02:38 <hggdh> IIRC, it is per meeting unless someone leaves/comes in
23:02:53 <iulian> Don't think so. Have a look above.
23:03:14 <iulian> #endmeeting