20:02:16 <SergioMeneses> #startmeeting 20:02:16 <meetingology> Meeting started Tue Aug 21 20:02:16 2012 UTC. The chair is SergioMeneses. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology. 20:02:16 <meetingology> 20:02:16 <meetingology> Available commands: #accept #accepted #action #agree #agreed #chair #commands #endmeeting #endvote #halp #help #idea #info #link #lurk #meetingname #meetingtopic #nick #progress #rejected #replay #restrictlogs #save #startmeeting #subtopic #topic #unchair #undo #unlurk #vote #voters #votesrequired 20:02:23 <czajkowski> aloha 20:02:41 <SergioMeneses> #link https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LoCoCouncil/Agenda 20:03:55 <czajkowski> Cracknel: ping 20:04:04 <Cracknel> hi Laura 20:04:06 <SergioMeneses> #topic Romania Reapproval 20:04:21 <czajkowski> welcome thanks for coming 20:04:28 <SergioMeneses> #link https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RomanianTeam/ReApprovalApplication2012 20:04:37 <czajkowski> nice wiki page folks! 20:04:39 <SergioMeneses> hello Cracknel 20:05:03 <Cracknel> sorry for not attending the meeting last month, I've forgot to add it to the calendar 20:05:14 <SergioMeneses> Cracknel, dont worry! 20:05:17 <czajkowski> that's fine Cracknel these things happen :) 20:06:44 <czajkowski> Cracknel: so how do things get done in your team ? 20:06:46 <czajkowski> organisation? 20:07:05 <Cracknel> usually we use the forums for most of the work 20:07:24 <Cracknel> but there is a trend to use social networking websites like Google+ 20:07:49 <czajkowski> nods 20:08:01 <czajkowski> does everyone help out? 20:08:29 <Cracknel> well, people interested in working on something usually get into the conversation 20:08:41 <Cracknel> as everything is public, this is not a problem 20:08:59 <greg-g> Cracknel: do you see any issues coming up for the Romania LoCo in the future? 20:09:02 <czajkowski> thats good open discussion 20:09:37 <IngForigua> gmorning 20:09:45 <Cracknel> I don't think there will be a problem in the future 20:09:54 <SergioMeneses> Cracknel, I have a recommendation, you have to use the loco portal http://loco.ubuntu.com/ 20:10:08 <huats> How is defined the structure of the LoCo ? 20:10:31 <Cracknel> SergioMeneses: we've tried for the recent events 20:11:06 <Cracknel> huats: there is a core, based on older members 20:11:06 <hollman> :D 20:11:43 <Cracknel> and every one else that wants to join is welcome 20:11:44 <itnet7> Cracknel: I really like the outreach programs the team has held, very nice! 20:11:51 <SergioMeneses> Cracknel, great... keep it in mind! 20:11:53 <czajkowski> Cracknel: http://loco.ubuntu.com/teams/ubuntu-ro/events/history 20:12:14 <czajkowski> nice work I'd encourage you to add your events here as it's easy to keep track of for your team 20:13:04 <Cracknel> czajkowski: some might not come to knowledge of the core members of the team (the launchpad team) 20:13:21 <Cracknel> so they do not appear in the loco team portal 20:13:54 <czajkowski> Cracknel: yu mean people are not on Launchpad? 20:14:30 <Cracknel> are not on the ubuntu-ro team on Launchpad 20:14:55 <Cracknel> but they do use Launchpad for translations, bug reporting... 20:15:02 <czajkowski> ah ok 20:15:12 <czajkowski> maybe encourage them to join the team perahaps 20:15:30 <SergioMeneses> +1 20:15:40 <SergioMeneses> totally agree 20:15:47 <Cracknel> we have some plans for this and will probably be discussed on the next IRC meeting 20:16:05 <SergioMeneses> ok.. we are ready to vote 20:16:31 <SergioMeneses> #vote please vote on the re approval of the Romania loco 20:16:31 <meetingology> Please vote on: please vote on the re approval of the Romania loco 20:16:31 <meetingology> Public votes can be registered by saying +1, +0 or -1 in channel, (private votes don't work yet, but when they do it will be by messaging the channel followed by +1/-1/+0 to me) 20:16:39 <huats> +1 20:16:39 <meetingology> +1 received from huats 20:16:40 <czajkowski> +1 20:16:40 <meetingology> +1 received from czajkowski 20:16:41 <greg-g> +1 # great work, great re approval application, keep of the great work! 20:16:41 <meetingology> +1 # great work, great re approval application, keep of the great work! received from greg-g 20:16:44 <itnet7> +1 20:16:44 <meetingology> +1 received from itnet7 20:16:45 <xdatap1> +1 20:16:45 <meetingology> +1 received from xdatap1 20:16:51 <SergioMeneses> +1 20:16:51 <meetingology> +1 received from SergioMeneses 20:17:11 <SergioMeneses> #endvote 20:17:11 <meetingology> Voting ended on: please vote on the re approval of the Romania loco 20:17:11 <meetingology> Votes for:6 Votes against:0 Abstentions:0 20:17:11 <meetingology> Motion carried 20:17:40 <Cracknel> Thanks :) 20:17:41 <huats> great ! 20:17:49 <huats> great work, continue like that ! 20:17:51 <SergioMeneses> congratulations Cracknel 20:17:53 <itnet7> Good job Cracknel and Ubuntu-ro!! 20:17:55 <greg-g> congrats and continue to be great! 20:18:09 <IngForigua> felicitaciones 20:18:24 <andresmujica> congrats Cracknel and ubuntu-ro ! 20:18:42 <greg-g> next! 20:18:55 <SergioMeneses> #topic Colombian Reapproval 20:19:02 <SergioMeneses> #link https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ColombianTeam/ReApprovalApplication2012 20:19:11 <SergioMeneses> hello andresmujica 20:19:32 <andresmujica> hi SergioMeneses ! 20:19:44 <andresmujica> hello czajkowski greg-g itnet7 huats ! 20:19:46 <andresmujica> hello everyone 20:19:50 <itnet7> Hey there andresmujica ! 20:19:55 * greg-g waves 20:20:03 <huats> hello andresmujica 20:20:38 <SergioMeneses> andresmujica, you have a great application 20:20:43 <czajkowski> andresmujica: hey there 20:21:11 <czajkowski> lovely artwork 20:21:24 <SergioMeneses> andresmujica, can you tell us something about the mesh project? 20:21:24 <andresmujica> I'm here on behalf of Ubuntu Colombia Team , so we're ready for the reapproval process :) 20:21:35 <czajkowski> andresmujica: so tell us about your team 20:21:37 <andresmujica> thanks czajkowski thanks SergioMeneses 20:21:40 <andresmujica> sure 20:22:21 <andresmujica> Ubuntu Colombia is a team that is constantly evolving 20:22:37 <andresmujica> it has been the start point for several others projects all over our country 20:22:46 <andresmujica> one of those is the mesh project that SergioMeneses is asking about. 20:23:18 <itnet7> andresmujica: /win 4 20:23:22 <itnet7> lol 20:23:24 <andresmujica> that's an amazing project 20:23:24 <itnet7> sry 20:23:40 <SergioMeneses> itnet7, je 20:23:48 <andresmujica> that has grown on the root s of several members from ubuntu colombia 20:24:01 <andresmujica> hollman, and IngForigua whom are present here. 20:24:01 <itnet7> the Mesh project seems very cool indeed! 20:24:02 <andresmujica> anyway 20:24:15 <andresmujica> Ubuntu Colombia has grown by itself 20:24:22 <andresmujica> we're currently about 3000 members 20:24:29 <IngForigua> Hello :) 20:24:32 <andresmujica> counting all of our followers on social networks 20:24:41 <andresmujica> mailing lists 20:24:46 * itnet7 waves to IngForigua 20:24:57 <andresmujica> and non internet connected members 20:24:59 <itnet7> Nice andresmujica ! 20:25:24 <huats> I really like your application 20:25:32 <SergioMeneses> huats, +1 20:25:36 <huats> and the growing number of Ubuntu member is just awesome 20:25:37 <czajkowski> andresmujica: so do you see any issues for your loco coming up? 20:25:40 <andresmujica> +1 huats 20:25:42 <SergioMeneses> and they have a lot of events http://loco.ubuntu.com/teams/ubuntu-co/events/history 20:26:16 <andresmujica> czajkowski, well in fact i do see some issues. Probably the biggest one right know is that we've got a local council in charge of helping the team to flow 20:26:40 <andresmujica> and sometimes is hard for a newcomer to the Ubuntu Colombia team to understand the proper role of our council 20:27:03 <czajkowski> andresmujica: yes can you tell us more about this 20:27:03 <andresmujica> usually the people are expecting that someone else do stuff and activities and things like that 20:27:32 <andresmujica> and it's hard to empower them so they can organize by themselves those activities. 20:27:35 <itnet7> andresmujica: that's always difficult when new people come on board and are learning the ropes about the team 20:27:36 * IngForigua Ubuntu-co rocks :P 20:27:39 <SergioMeneses> #voters greg-g czajkowski SergioMeneses itnet7 huats xdatap1 20:27:39 <meetingology> Current voters: SergioMeneses czajkowski greg-g huats itnet7 xdatap1 20:27:45 <andresmujica> however the model is working 20:27:49 <andresmujica> just fine 20:27:53 <andresmujica> with improvements coming 20:28:01 <czajkowski> andresmujica: nods do you think the team needs a council and what extra powers does it bring to your team? 20:28:02 <huats> +1 20:28:09 <xdatap1> +1 20:28:53 <andresmujica> czajkowski, i do believe that the team needs to be self sufficient and that means that it should not be dependeant on only one person, it should be dependant on several.. the more the merrier :) 20:28:54 <SergioMeneses> andresmujica, great work! we are ready to vote 20:29:23 <itnet7> good point andresmujica ! 20:29:39 <czajkowski> ok 20:29:42 <SergioMeneses> #vote please vote on the re approval of the Colombian LoCo 20:29:42 <meetingology> Please vote on: please vote on the re approval of the Colombian LoCo 20:29:42 <meetingology> Public votes can be registered by saying +1, +0 or -1 in channel, (private votes don't work yet, but when they do it will be by messaging the channel followed by +1/-1/+0 to me) 20:29:47 <czajkowski> +1 20:29:47 <meetingology> +1 received from czajkowski 20:29:48 <greg-g> +1 :) 20:29:48 <meetingology> +1 :) received from greg-g 20:29:51 <itnet7> +1 20:29:51 <meetingology> +1 received from itnet7 20:29:51 <xdatap1> +1 20:29:51 <meetingology> +1 received from xdatap1 20:29:52 <SergioMeneses> +0 20:29:52 <meetingology> +0 received from SergioMeneses 20:29:59 <hollman> :D iujuu 20:30:12 <andresmujica> :D yuupppiiii :) 20:30:23 <huats> congrats to your team ! 20:30:29 <hollman> good work my team u-co 20:30:33 <Costeelation> :') 20:30:36 <hollman> **our 20:30:38 <SergioMeneses> #endvote 20:30:38 <meetingology> Voting ended on: please vote on the re approval of the Colombian LoCo 20:30:38 <meetingology> Votes for:4 Votes against:0 Abstentions:1 20:30:38 <meetingology> Motion carried 20:30:44 <andresmujica> thank you czajkowski greg-g xdatap1 itnet7 huats SergioMeneses :) 20:30:53 <SergioMeneses> andresmujica, excellent work! 20:30:55 <huats> Thanks to you ! 20:30:56 <SergioMeneses> congratulations 20:30:57 <hollman> thanks all 20:31:00 <itnet7> great work, keeop it up Ubuntu-CO!!! 20:31:00 <huats> for your great job 20:31:04 <SergioMeneses> hollman, IngForigua \o 20:31:11 <Costeelation> congratulations guys 20:31:14 <IngForigua> nice 20:31:17 <IngForigua> felicitaciones 20:31:34 <IngForigua> jojojo 20:31:41 <andresmujica> thank you SergioMeneses you've done a great work too! 20:31:51 <SergioMeneses> #topic Serbian Reapproval 20:31:58 <uros1> Hello from Belgrade, speaking in name of Serbian Ubuntu LoCo team, members present are bojce coordinator, olujicz, Beretta021, promis, maletaski, Rainmaker and me. 20:31:59 <SergioMeneses> #link https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SerbianTeam/ReApprovalApplication2012 20:32:20 <itnet7> Welcome uros1 and the Serbian Team!! 20:32:22 <uros1> serb pepople ssay hi 20:32:24 <bojce> Hello everyone 20:32:26 <SergioMeneses> bojce, uros1 hello 20:32:30 <czajkowski> oh more lovely artwork! 20:32:31 <maletaski> hello 20:32:31 <czajkowski> yay 20:32:32 <czajkowski> :) 20:33:46 <czajkowski> http://loco.ubuntu.com/teams/ubuntu-rs/events/history nice to see 20:33:55 <czajkowski> uros1: how is your team doing ? 20:34:01 <uros1> tnx we have god two years 20:34:02 <czajkowski> Can we help ? 20:34:03 <itnet7> beautiful job on the re-approval page! 20:34:09 <SergioMeneses> great 20:34:35 <uros1> In the last two years, the main problem was material delivery – CD's, due to strict customs regulations in Serbia. The team hasn't found adequate solution for this problem, and we appreciate your understanding of this 20:34:58 <uros1> Dialogue with state institutions regarding Ubuntu and FLOSS adoption within the government system remains strategic goal of the team; the results accomplished by now raise hopes, and we believe that Council's support in the process could be stronger and more intensive. 20:35:33 <uros1> On demand from Ministry of communications (Department of Digital society) Team is currently in process of making tutorials for general audience, on topic how to adopt Ubuntu and how to adopt FLOSS applications in business environment 20:35:34 <uros1> This is major step forward in dialogue between Team and state administration 20:35:44 <czajkowski> uros1: so have you beenable to receive the cds from shipit ? 20:35:54 <uros1> only for 11.04 20:36:14 <uros1> looking for solution, trust me 20:36:22 <czajkowski> what is the issue what happpens? 20:36:35 <uros1> custom problem 20:36:40 <SergioMeneses> taxes? 20:36:53 <czajkowski> uros1: and have you contacted shippit to see if they will help 20:36:54 <uros1> Serbia was part of ex Yugoslavia 20:36:57 <czajkowski> they do help where they can 20:37:43 <uros1> so still big problem with custom, CD`s are subject of import 20:37:56 <uros1> yes I know 20:38:19 <huats> uros1: is it for CD received from anywhere ? 20:38:23 <uros1> so i say again, looking for proper solutin 20:38:50 <uros1> One time Montenegro Loco split 11.04 cd`s with us 20:39:00 <huats> uros1: that was my idea 20:39:16 <huats> would it be possible to send 2 pack to montenegro by instance and that you split ? 20:39:29 <huats> not a perfect solution ... 20:39:32 <uros1> yes, that is god solution! 20:39:54 <itnet7> +1 huats ! 20:39:57 <uros1> very god solution if it`s possible 20:40:08 <SergioMeneses> huats, maybe 20:40:56 <huats> uros1: czajkowski may contradict me but you can ask that your Cd to be shipepd somewhere else 20:41:02 <czajkowski> hmmm 20:41:04 <SergioMeneses> but we have to speak with montenegro about this 20:41:04 <czajkowski> not sure about that 20:41:21 <czajkowski> I know somtimes canonical have kindly also helped pay for the vat on customs 20:41:50 <huats> czajkowski: but that might worth doing a kind of exception 20:42:26 <huats> (well at least to ask :) 20:42:26 <uros1> czajkowski: can we be in contact about this in future? 20:42:30 <itnet7> Well, now that we are aware of the issue, we can at least ask offline and see if it's possible 20:42:50 <czajkowski> uros1: of course 20:42:56 <uros1> cool 20:43:17 <uros1> so on the other hand, good old customers support, answering their demands on daily basis has been improved almost to perfection, and unsolved problems are almost non-existant. 20:43:34 <uros1> in forum 20:43:49 <huats> great to hear 20:44:11 <uros1> old-fashioned everyday work :) 20:44:25 <SergioMeneses> uros1, great work! we are ready to vote 20:44:28 <SergioMeneses> #vote 20:44:28 <meetingology> Please vote on: 20:44:28 <meetingology> Public votes can be registered by saying +1, +0 or -1 in channel, (private votes don't work yet, but when they do it will be by messaging the channel followed by +1/-1/+0 to me) 20:44:35 <huats> +1 ! 20:44:40 <huats> +1 20:44:44 <czajkowski> +1 20:44:47 <SergioMeneses> +1 20:44:52 <itnet7> +1 20:45:02 <xdatap1> +1 20:45:45 <SergioMeneses> #endvote 20:45:45 <meetingology> No vote in progress 20:46:23 <czajkowski> well it's passed :) 20:46:29 <czajkowski> so well done 20:46:36 <SergioMeneses> sure 20:46:38 <xdatap1> congratulations 20:46:44 <bojce> thanks all 20:46:44 <itnet7> Sure, Congratulations!!! 20:46:46 <huats> congrats ! 20:46:46 <SergioMeneses> congratulations Serbian team 20:46:48 <Rainmaker_> thanks 20:46:53 <maletaski> thanms 20:46:56 <uros1> tnx Councill!! 20:46:57 <itnet7> Great work uros1 and Team!!! 20:47:20 <czajkowski> SergioMeneses: thank you for chairing! 20:47:28 <SergioMeneses> czajkowski, dont worry 20:47:30 <SergioMeneses> #action SergioMeneses update LP approved locos 20:47:30 * meetingology SergioMeneses update LP approved locos 20:48:11 <itnet7> Thanks for chairing SergioMeneses ! 20:48:24 <huats> thanks for sharing SergioMeneses 20:49:02 <SergioMeneses> #action itnet7 to update the wiki and team report with meeting 20:49:02 * meetingology itnet7 to update the wiki and team report with meeting 20:49:15 <SergioMeneses> #endmeeting