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15:02:22 <slangasek> #topic lightning round
15:02:23 <ogra_> o/
15:02:31 <slangasek> $ echo $(shuf -e barry doko stgraber jodh ev bdmurray slangasek ogra infinity cjwatson xnox stokachu)
15:02:34 <slangasek> infinity barry stokachu ev xnox bdmurray stgraber cjwatson slangasek jodh doko ogra
15:02:43 * xnox 0/
15:03:05 <infinity> * Kernel SRU ferrying, and other SRU and AA work
15:03:05 <infinity> * Worked on eglibc bugfixes and backports for quantal and precise to make Friday's deadline
15:03:08 <infinity> * Accidentally broke the archive (due to bug #1031061) and spent some time fixing it
15:03:09 <ubottu> Launchpad bug 1031061 in ubuntu-archive-tools "remove-package --source-only doesn't do as advertised" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1031061
15:03:11 <infinity> * Worked more with lamont on sorting out the (un)happiness of panda buildds
15:03:14 <infinity> * Fixed bug #1029556 in live-build
15:03:15 <ubottu> Launchpad bug 1029556 in live-build (Ubuntu Precise) "Only include linux-headers for the kernels being shipped on the image" [Critical,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1029556
15:03:16 <infinity> * Worked on some build failures over the weekend
15:03:19 <infinity> * Somehow got sick, but discovered I can't file bugs against myself
15:03:21 <infinity> * Note: Monday is a holiday for me
15:03:24 <infinity> [...]
15:03:39 <barry> abandoned work on xapian py3 bindings since both swig and cython approaches hit deadends.  bug 1029094.  bug 1026203.  python bug 15458 (python3-config --configdir doko \o/).  importlib docs landed for py3.3 in time for beta2.  dmb meeting.  gwibber py3 work started.  done.
15:03:42 <ubottu> Launchpad bug 1029094 in Ubuntu One Control Panel "Replace simplejson with json" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1029094
15:03:43 <ubottu> Launchpad bug 1026203 in python3-defaults (Ubuntu) "python3-defaults does not yet support Python 3.3" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1026203
15:03:44 <ubottu> Launchpad bug 15458 in kdelibs (Ubuntu) "kdelibs4: Invalid calculation of PCX image properties possibly permits arbitrary code execution" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/15458
15:04:22 <barry> #ubottufail
15:04:29 <stgraber> infinity: Thursday's deadline (21:00 UTC)
15:04:38 <smartboyhw> *help
15:04:56 <infinity> stgraber: My brain works in "end of weeks", but yes. ;)
15:06:33 <stokachu_> barry: finished?
15:06:43 <stokachu_> oh
15:06:49 <barry> stokachu_: yep.  see hidden, supersekrit "done"
15:06:54 <barry> :)
15:06:55 <stokachu_> lol
15:07:11 <cjwatson> Somebody tell me when it's my turn since I missed the start. :)
15:07:26 <ogra_> cjohnston, after stephane
15:07:27 <infinity> cjwatson: You're after stgraber.
15:07:28 <stokachu_> so last two weeks, vacation first week, on-site with customer fixing autofs second, today+tomorrow will be finishing up rdepends testing
15:07:29 <ogra_> grr
15:07:32 <ogra_> cjwatson, ^^
15:07:37 <stokachu_> ...
15:07:40 <cjohnston> yay, me again!
15:07:44 <ogra_> heh
15:07:50 * ogra_ hugs cjohnston
15:07:55 <cjohnston> ;-)
15:08:02 * xnox wait a minute?! did I get skipped?!
15:08:06 * cjohnston is finished hijacking meeting
15:08:18 <ogra_> xnox, nope
15:08:21 <cjwatson> infinity,ogra_: ta
15:08:38 <slangasek> xnox: your turn now
15:08:40 <ogra_> xnox, you are after the weekly novel paste :)
15:08:46 <ogra_> oh, no ev then
15:08:52 <slangasek> ev is on vac
15:09:01 <xnox> * finished automatic luks encryption for ubiquity. Pushed merge
15:09:01 <xnox> proposals for: ubiquity and partman-crypto
15:09:01 <xnox> https://code.launchpad.net/~dmitrij.ledkov/ubiquity/crypto-done/+merge/117664
15:09:01 <xnox> * did little work on HPCloud, I have many sbuilds for rebuilds, but
15:09:01 <xnox> still a few bugs here and there. Should be able to do a rebuild for
15:09:01 <xnox> stockachu's SRU's today. (it's cloud, so it just works, right?!)
15:09:04 <xnox> * volleyball is great at Earl's Court. I will be off until next Thursday.
15:09:21 * ogra_ hasnt seen you on TV yet !
15:09:27 * barry hasn't either!
15:09:38 <ogra_> (though olympics in the US TV is a joke actually)
15:09:43 * xnox there was a tiny dot in the top right corner at the table, they never show ;-)
15:09:57 <infinity> slangasek: Oh dear.  Are we going to get a 5000-word essay about ev's vacation when he gets back?
15:10:07 <ogra_> LOL !!
15:10:25 <xnox> infinity: s/essay/short novel/
15:10:42 <stokachu_> i think he is finishing his thesis on world domination this week
15:10:46 <stokachu_> up your buffers
15:10:50 <bdmurray> xnox: done?
15:10:52 <xnox> odne
15:11:02 <bdmurray> reported and fixed apt-clone bug regarding usernames and passwords - LP: #1029021
15:11:05 <bdmurray> reported and fixed update-manager bug 1029046 regarding apt-clone system state information
15:11:07 <ubottu> Launchpad bug 1029046 in update-manager (Ubuntu Precise) "include system state from apt-clone in apport package hook" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1029046
15:11:08 <bdmurray> bugbot modification to check systemstate attachment for username and password
15:11:11 <bdmurray> bugbot work to tag bugs verification-failed and regression-proposed
15:11:17 <bdmurray> discovered and fixed missing apport white list stuff in ubuntu-release-upgrader
15:11:20 <bdmurray> precise SRU of update-manager bug 818760 (high on errors.ubuntu.com)
15:11:21 <ubottu> Launchpad bug 818760 in update-manager (Ubuntu Precise) "update-manager crashed with timeout in readline(): timed out" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/818760
15:11:22 <bdmurray> SRU verification of update-manager bug 1002956 for precise
15:11:23 <ubottu> Launchpad bug 1002956 in update-manager (Ubuntu Oneiric) "Missing ReleaseNotesViewerWebkit.py from package" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1002956
15:11:25 <bdmurray> SRU verification of bug 1006633 regarding apport and /etc/default/grub
15:11:26 <ubottu> Launchpad bug 1006633 in apport (Ubuntu Precise) "should collect /etc/default/grub from package install failures due to update-grub failing" [High,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1006633
15:11:27 <bdmurray> SRU verification of bug 972436 regarding apport and precise
15:11:29 <ubottu> Launchpad bug 972436 in apport (Ubuntu Precise) "backend_helper.py crashed with UnicodeEncodeError in apport_excepthook(): 'ascii' codec can't encode character u'\xe8' in position 166: ordinal not in range(128)" [Critical,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/972436
15:11:33 <bdmurray> modified sru-release to comment on bugs and unsubscribe ubuntu-sru team
15:11:33 <bdmurray> modified sru-report to look at message owners when coloring stuff golden
15:11:33 <bdmurray> merge proposal for error tracker bug 1008727 (links changing colors)
15:11:34 <ubottu> Launchpad bug 1008727 in Errors "link for followed errors doesn't change color" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1008727
15:11:46 <bdmurray> ⌁ done ⌁
15:12:29 <stgraber> - Containers
15:12:30 <stgraber> - Fixed bug in lxc-ubuntu and lxc-ubuntu-cloud that'd make container creation fail now that sysvinit has been fixed.
15:12:33 <stgraber> - SRUed above fix.
15:12:35 <stgraber> - Networking
15:12:38 <stgraber> - 12.04.1
15:12:40 <stgraber> - 12.04.1 team meeting and minutes
15:12:42 <stgraber> - Went through all the targeted/milestoned bugs for 12.04.1, updated status based on comments and queue status.
15:12:46 <stgraber> - Verified a bunch of SRUs.
15:12:48 <stgraber> - Uploaded a few more SRUs for bugs targeted to the point release (usb-creator, ubiquity, isc-dhcp, ubuntu-docs)
15:12:51 <stgraber> - Image based system
15:12:53 <stgraber> - Implemented proof of concept for foundations-q-image-based-updates, can be found in lp:~stgraber/+junk/image-setup
15:12:57 <stgraber> - Talked a bit with tedg on the work being done by his team.
15:12:59 <stgraber> - SRU
15:13:02 <stgraber> - Working on fixing the fglrx/fglrx-updates purge bug, hitting a few other weirdness in the maintainer scripts...
15:13:04 <stgraber> - Other
15:13:07 <stgraber> - Alpha 3
15:13:10 <stgraber> - Update publish-image-set in ubuntu-archive-tools to properly deal with the new arm images
15:13:12 <stgraber> - Almost done merging LTSP with Debian, it might be the first time we do that, so the delta was huge, but it's now quite small and readable, so LTSP should be much easier to maintain in the future.
15:13:15 <slangasek> xnox: did you see the further discussion on the mdadm SRU regression (bug #1030292)?  Any thoughts on how to deal with that so we can have the mdadm fixes for .1?
15:13:17 <stgraber> - Some ARB app review, the app showdown made the ARB New queue reach 140 packages... Still 50 to review...
15:13:17 <ubottu> Launchpad bug 1030292 in mdadm (Ubuntu) "initramfs does not boot with mdadm (3.2.5-1ubuntu0.1)" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1030292
15:13:19 <stgraber> - TODO this week
15:13:22 <stgraber> - Continue the work on 12.04.1.
15:13:25 <stgraber> (DONE)
15:13:31 <cjwatson> Very short week: holiday Wed-Fri.  Internet connection down at home for over a week now, causing substantial disruption to my working style.
15:13:33 <cjwatson> Move server image base system squashfs (set up last week) from /casper/ to /install/ to reduce confusion.
15:13:37 <cjwatson> Drop build-dependency on poxml in installation-guide (bug 1031478).
15:13:38 <cjwatson> done
15:13:38 <ubottu> Launchpad bug 1031478 in installation-guide (Ubuntu Quantal) "Drop Build-Depends on poxml" [Wishlist,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1031478
15:13:40 <cjwatson> Did almost all the work required to kill off the old copy-package.py script in Launchpad.  Should be possible following tomorrow's deployment.  This will include archive admins no longer needing to approve copies as a separate step.
15:13:44 <cjwatson> Investigating xorriso 1.2.4, which (once I work out how to drive it) may clean up Mac/UEFI image building sufficiently that we can ditch the amd64+mac images.
15:14:33 <stgraber> wow, that'd be great! (no more +mac images)
15:15:05 <cjwatson> it claims to be equivalent to mjg's isohybrid work
15:15:10 <xnox> slangasek: i believe that mdadm fighting with dmraid correctly, because existing users of IMSM did have dmraid (since mdadm had no support for it). And mdadm fails to activate or do anything useful with IMSM on boot because mdmon is not in the initramfs.
15:15:23 <jdstrand> cjwatson: re copy-package.py> \o/
15:15:57 <xnox> slangasek: so my plan is to push mdmon into initramfs in quantal. Ask those users with IMSM to test.
15:15:58 <cjwatson> jdstrand: also https://code.launchpad.net/~cjwatson/launchpad/pocket-queue-admin/+merge/117630
15:16:19 <ogra_> xnox, stop growing the initrds !
15:16:44 <xnox> slangasek: on these grounds the SRU should probably be rejected, but I still want to test other parts of it. Or I can reupload the SRU but drop the ISMS and DDF containers from the udev rules file.
15:17:00 <slangasek> xnox: hrm, I don't understand.  Surely if the device is currently configured under dmraid, an upgrade to mdadm shouldn't cause it to suddenly start being assembled by mdadm?
15:17:01 <jdstrand> cjwatson: that's awesome :)
15:17:03 <xnox> ogra_: but it's only for those who have niche hardware! =)
15:17:08 <cjwatson> jdstrand: if *that* gets merged we can probably just have you use something equivalent to unembargo --copy for everything
15:17:26 <cjwatson> and then ditch the ubuntu-security celebrity from LP \o/
15:17:40 <jdstrand> wow, great stuff :)
15:17:41 <ogra_> xnox, well, if its not in all initrds i'm fine ... ac100 has a 1.5MB limit in the bootloader
15:17:43 <xnox> slangasek: yeah. good point. no clue. my guess is that the udev event fires and mdadm now listens to it. and we currently assemble all mdadm arrays we find.
15:18:48 <xnox> slangasek: there are other bugs part of ReliableRaid as to conditionally assemble arrays and not drop into initramfs if some raid arrays fail to assemble (e.g. if /opt/ failed to assemble we should continue to boot)
15:18:57 <xnox> ..
15:19:04 <slangasek> xnox: so does the mdadm rule need to be listed later than the dmraid rule, or does it need to respect the dmraid config, or something?  do you have some time yet to look at this today?  We really need this solved this week if we're going to have it in .1
15:19:30 <xnox> ok. I will look into dmraid/mdadm interaction today.
15:19:59 <slangasek> xnox: (dropping the ISMS handling also seems ok for now)
15:20:00 <xnox> slangasek: to be honest. for that user, neither may have been setup.
15:20:17 <xnox> and mdadm trying and failing spectacularly.
15:22:19 <xnox> cjwatson: finished fixing up comments from the first review of crypto-done
15:22:25 <xnox> pushed.
15:23:30 <slangasek> * patch piloting on Monday, taking a few old requests off the queue (couchdb, libav)
15:23:33 <slangasek> * multiarch upload sponsorships to precise
15:23:35 <slangasek> * SRU processing: reviewing cedarview enablement packages in precise-proposed
15:23:38 <slangasek> * fixed a bug in sdlgfx that was making frozen-bubble uninstallable in quantal (bug #1029981)
15:23:40 <ubottu> Launchpad bug 1029981 in sdlgfx (Ubuntu) "FTBFS on i386 in quantal" [Undecided,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1029981
15:23:41 <slangasek> * updated skype packages in partner
15:23:44 <slangasek> * scheduled foot surgery; outpatient procedure so not taking any time off, but hours will shift around a little over the next weeks
15:23:47 <slangasek> (done)
15:23:56 <jodh> * boot/upstart: stateful re-exec:
15:23:56 <jodh> - enum handling now complete.
15:23:56 <jodh> - need to finish off dbus connection serialisation and map out
15:23:56 <jodh> strategy for dummy ConfSource/inotify handling.
15:24:00 <jodh> - currently working on stitching minimal set of pieces together and putting
15:24:03 <jodh> them into a PPA for *very* early testing.
15:24:06 <jodh> 
15:24:09 <jodh> ... and for infinity (determined to get more mileage out of this "Tetris" (TM) gag)...
15:24:12 <jodh> 
15:24:16 <jodh> ⠡⠀⠃⠕⠕⠞⠌⠥⠏⠎⠞⠁⠗⠞⠱⠀⠎⠞⠁⠞⠑⠋⠥⠇⠀⠗⠑⠤⠑⠭⠑⠉⠱
15:24:19 <jodh> ⠀⠀⠤⠀⠑⠝⠥⠍⠀⠓⠁⠝⠙⠇⠊⠝⠛⠀⠝⠕⠺⠀⠉⠕⠍⠏⠇⠑⠞⠑⠨
15:24:21 <infinity> slangasek: Well, thank god for frozen-bubble fixes.
15:24:22 <jodh> ⠀⠀⠤⠀⠝⠑⠑⠙⠀⠞⠕⠀⠋⠊⠝⠊⠎⠓⠀⠕⠋⠋⠀⠙⠃⠥⠎⠀⠉⠕⠝⠝⠑⠉⠞⠊⠕⠝⠀⠎⠑⠗⠊⠁⠇⠊⠎⠁⠞⠊⠕⠝⠀⠁⠝⠙⠀⠍⠁⠏⠀⠕⠥⠞
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15:24:27 <jodh> ⠀⠀⠤⠀⠉⠥⠗⠗⠑⠝⠞⠇⠽⠀⠺⠕⠗⠅⠊⠝⠛⠀⠕⠝⠀⠎⠞⠊⠞⠉⠓⠊⠝⠛⠀⠍⠊⠝⠊⠍⠁⠇⠀⠎⠑⠞⠀⠕⠋⠀⠏⠊⠑⠉⠑⠎⠀⠞⠕⠛⠑⠞⠓⠑⠗⠀⠁⠝⠙
15:24:30 <jodh> ⠀⠀⠀⠀⠏⠥⠞⠞⠊⠝⠛
15:24:33 <jodh> ⠀⠀⠀⠀⠞⠓⠑⠍⠀⠊⠝⠞⠕⠀⠁⠀⠏⠏⠁⠀⠋⠕⠗⠀⠡⠧⠑⠗⠽⠡⠀⠑⠁⠗⠇⠽⠀⠞⠑⠎⠞⠊⠝⠛⠨
15:24:37 <jodh> 𝀽
15:24:40 <jodh> 
15:24:46 <jodh> oh yeah - patch piloted on tuesday too :)
15:24:52 <doko> could somebody translate? ;p
15:24:57 * ogra_ wonders if jodh ever looked at irclogs.ubuntu.com ...
15:25:16 <xnox> doko: it's the same report in braile
15:25:18 <jodh> ogra_: I did, but couldn't bear the thought that infinity didn't ;)
15:25:37 <ogra_> jodh, well, its just junk in the txt logs
15:26:14 <jodh> ogra_: just goes to prove - repeats are never as good as the live event ;)
15:26:22 <ogra_> heh
15:27:59 <xnox> infinity: btw, i did not get around to doing e2fsprogs summary/test-cases
15:28:36 <infinity> xnox: I figured, based on my not hearing about it. :)
15:28:38 <doko> jodh, are you finished?
15:28:48 <ogra_> doko, <jodh> 𝀽
15:28:52 <ogra_> indeed he is :)
15:28:57 <xnox> doko: the fancy UTF-8 character is finish ;-)
15:28:57 <jodh> +1 :)
15:29:14 <doko> back from vacation and two weeks of real offline time, wading through emails, preparing binutils, gcc, openjdk updates
15:29:23 <doko> (unfancy dot)
15:29:30 * xnox want utf-8 language keywords in C++'12
15:29:40 <ogra_> done:
15:29:40 <ogra_> * switched omap/omap4 images to use uEnv.txt and preEnv.txt (this completely drops
15:29:41 <ogra_> the requirement of boot.scr and gives us plain text files for setting boot options)
15:29:41 <ogra_> the installed system still uses boot.scr after install, flash-kernel changes for
15:29:41 <ogra_> this are in the works and should land mid next week
15:29:41 <ogra_> * QA sprint: implementing fully automatic image testing on pandaboards, issues with usbboot
15:29:43 <ogra_> to provide the bootloader to the boards were solved the last two days with some hardware
15:29:45 <ogra_> hacking and soldering (expect an intresting blog article the next days ;) )
15:29:46 * doko hits xnox
15:29:47 <ogra_> * QA sprint: implementing an automatic provisioning system for pandaboards via tftp, http
15:29:49 <ogra_> and usbboot/udev to pull, install and run images from cdimage automatically
15:29:51 <ogra_> (blog and documentation pending). many thanks to rsalveti and jcrigby for working after
15:29:53 <ogra_> hours and at night on the u-boot bugs we are finding along the way !
15:29:55 <ogra_> todo:
15:29:57 <ogra_> * finish the transition to uEnv.txt and preEnv.txt on omap/omap4 images
15:30:01 <slangasek> xnox: neither may have been setup> if you look at the udev log, you'll see that in his successful boot there are dmraid devices
15:30:01 <ogra_> * document the new way of booting with the above
15:30:04 <ogra_> * QA sprint: finish the fully automatic image test suite for pandas
15:30:05 <ogra_> ..
15:30:17 * xnox hides behind infinity.
15:30:38 <xnox> slangasek: hmm... missed it. ok.
15:31:01 <jodh> xnox: hey - we could create a IOC++CC then!
15:31:10 <doko> hide *where*?
15:31:12 <ogra_> oh, and i got an imx6 board that i havent unpacked yet :)
15:31:41 <doko> then you don't need it. send it to me =)
15:31:49 <ogra_> haha
15:31:56 <ogra_> i guess yu can get one as well
15:33:11 <xnox> i had some luck with my pandaboard.
15:33:25 <ogra_> \o/
15:33:26 <slangasek> any questions on any of the above?
15:33:26 <xnox> installed with ssh server, but pending on external storage for sbuild slave
15:34:13 <infinity> cjwatson: Any opinions on bug #1031061 ?
15:34:14 <ubottu> Launchpad bug 1031061 in ubuntu-archive-tools "remove-package --source-only doesn't do as advertised" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1031061
15:34:26 <slangasek> xnox: so e2fsprogs is not quite there... should bug #978012 be unmilestoned?
15:34:28 <ubottu> Launchpad bug 978012 in e2fsprogs (Ubuntu Precise) "Please SRU micro bug fix release of e2fsprogs 1.42.4-3ubuntu1 (main) from Quantal (main)" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/978012
15:34:35 <xnox> slangasek: yes
15:34:42 <cjwatson> infinity: I followed up
15:35:14 <cjwatson> wgrant was pretty much "package removals shouldn't be exported if you can use them to leave orphaned binaries" IIRC
15:35:21 <slangasek> stgraber: ^^ unmilestoning e2fsprogs then, unless you want to follow it up yourself
15:35:24 <cjwatson> perhaps because the same would apply to PPAs ...
15:35:41 <cjwatson> certainly my bad for forgetting about that while writing the client
15:36:30 <infinity> cjwatson: Ahh, hadn't thought of the PPA angle.
15:36:32 <slangasek> infinity, cjwatson: but fundamentally, the binaries it removed were ones *not* from the source package being removed, no?
15:36:43 <slangasek> they came from the new source package
15:36:44 <stgraber> slangasek: I don't see any bug that would prevent installation, so I'm fine with it being fixed in -updates
15:36:49 <infinity> slangasek: No, it removed the source+binaries that belonged together.
15:36:52 <slangasek> stgraber: ok
15:36:55 <infinity> slangasek: Nothing from the new source.
15:37:10 <smartboyhw> Excuse me, which command for help?
15:37:11 <infinity> slangasek: It didn't do anything "wrong" on that front, it just did something very unexpected. :P
15:37:12 <cjwatson> slangasek: they did?  the bug doesn't say that
15:37:20 <cjwatson> smartboyhw: we're in the middle of a meeting here
15:37:24 <slangasek> infinity: oh - binaries also renamed and the old binaries were current?
15:37:29 <smartboyhw> Sorry, I have to ask..
15:37:34 <infinity> slangasek: Right.
15:37:40 <cjwatson> smartboyhw: please use some different channel for experimenting with IRC
15:37:56 <infinity> slangasek: There was no overlap at all between the source packages and their binary children.
15:38:24 <slangasek> yeah.  I'm trying to remember if source-only removal is normal usage there... I guess historically that's how we put such packages on the NBS report
15:38:31 <infinity> slangasek: Which was why the goal was to remove source-only and do a soft transition with the help of the NBS tracker.  Which then turned into a panicked "oh crap, all the old libraries are gone" transition. ;)
15:38:35 <cjwatson> personally, I've never used source-only removal
15:38:36 * slangasek nods
15:38:43 <cjwatson> feels dirty to me
15:38:58 <infinity> cjwatson: Yeah, I'm okay with losing the option.
15:39:07 <slangasek> ok, well, I think we've gotten enough mileage out of that bug for this meeting either way
15:39:10 <slangasek> [TOPIC] Bugs
15:39:12 <infinity> cjwatson: Although, note the output from the command.  Was that ubuntu-archive's fault, or the API's?
15:39:16 <cjwatson> but if you really think we need it, raise an LP bug
15:39:19 <slangasek> bdmurray: what's buggy?
15:39:22 <cjwatson> infinity: the client's
15:39:44 <bdmurray> bug 938869 has been receiving some recent duplicates
15:39:45 <ubottu> Launchpad bug 938869 in lsb (Ubuntu) "lsb_release crashed with SIGABRT in Py_FatalError()" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/938869
15:40:00 <cjwatson> that's gotta be a python3.2 bug?
15:40:15 <cjwatson> or, well, this is precise so python2.7
15:40:27 <bdmurray> InterpreterPath: /usr/bin/python3.2mu
15:40:30 <cjwatson> oh, it says 3
15:40:31 <cjwatson> yeah
15:40:49 <cjwatson> I don't think we shipped precise that way though?  the bug is from Feb
15:40:55 <infinity> 3.2mu?
15:41:04 <cjwatson> at least one recent dup is from quantal
15:41:12 <slangasek> cjwatson: lsb-release flip-flopped a couple of times in previous releases
15:41:18 <slangasek> (pre-release)
15:41:19 <cjwatson> infinity: readlink -f /usr/bin/python3
15:41:22 <cjwatson> slangasek: right, I remember
15:41:31 <barry> weird
15:42:18 <bdmurray> 5 of the 6 duplicates are using Quantal
15:42:29 <slangasek> for as much as we use lsb-release in the distro, though, this has to be a small corner case if there are only 7 reports
15:42:42 <infinity> Yeah.
15:42:45 <slangasek> reassign to python3.2?
15:42:50 <infinity> It would be breaking builds too, if it was consistent.
15:42:53 <cjwatson> looks like "interpreter completely busted" to me
15:43:03 <cjwatson> lsb_release just the first thing it bites?
15:43:59 <slangasek> there are similar bug reports against other python packages
15:44:02 <slangasek> bug #1022205
15:44:03 <ubottu> Error: Launchpad bug 1022205 could not be found
15:44:39 <barry> private bug
15:44:49 <slangasek> bug #958374, but that's python2.7
15:44:50 <ubottu> Launchpad bug 958374 in software-center (Ubuntu) "software-center crashed with SIGABRT in Py_FatalError()" [Medium,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/958374
15:45:11 <slangasek> barry: publicked
15:45:26 <xnox> barry: yeah, it could still print 'try http://pad.lv/1022205/ '
15:45:27 <ubottu> Launchpad bug 1022205 in command-not-found (Ubuntu) "command-not-found crashed with SIGABRT in Py_FatalError()" [Medium,New]
15:46:42 <barry> sure seems like a dup
15:46:49 <slangasek> bug reassigned; doko, could you follow up on it?
15:47:09 <infinity> When did the retracers start giving me disassembly?  Fancy.
15:47:19 <infinity> Or, rather, apport, not the retracer.
15:47:27 <infinity> It was in the original report...
15:47:44 <slangasek> augh, why is the duplicate-marker full of fancy ui now
15:47:57 <cjwatson> that was a change that landed today I think
15:48:17 <xnox> ubiquity is trending on errors.ubuntu.com with "on page-ask, clicking abort results in" bug 1027648
15:48:18 <ubottu> Launchpad bug 1027648 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "ubiquity crashed with ValueError in command(): I/O operation on closed file." [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1027648
15:48:53 <xnox> maybe users should not abort installing ubuntu....
15:49:36 <infinity> "To orientate at the bugnumber this crasher must be an old nable."
15:49:57 <infinity> I couldn't have said it better myself.
15:50:48 * barry is sad: "No symbol table info available."
15:52:13 <cjwatson> xnox: sigh, that disaster again
15:53:48 <xnox> cjwatson: didn't strace it yet.... luckily it's much earlier this time.
15:54:21 <xnox> looks like it's watching debconf_fd's but cleans them up too early/late
15:56:46 * slangasek taps the network with his foot
15:56:50 <slangasek> what'd I miss?
15:56:57 <ogra_> silence
15:57:04 <ogra_> about 2 mins of it
15:57:06 <slangasek> bdmurray: any other bugs?
15:57:21 <infinity> slangasek: Depends on the delta between when you lost your connection and when the server punted you. :P
15:57:37 <slangasek> infinity: 5
15:57:39 <ogra_> oh, right i was judging by the disconnect message
15:57:52 <infinity> slangasek: Then you missed punch and pie.
15:57:55 * slangasek nods
15:58:02 <bdmurray> bug 1029864
15:58:03 <ubottu> Launchpad bug 1029864 in brltty (Ubuntu) "read error appears from brltty during precise server iso testing" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1029864
15:58:14 <doko> sladen, will do
15:59:29 * xnox network is fine, and the foot will be replaced soon. things that slangasek does to get reliable internetz.
15:59:31 <slangasek> bdmurray: looks like TheMuso is TIL on brltty; shall we assign to him?
15:59:47 <cjwatson> yeah, brltty is a desktop thing
15:59:54 <cjwatson> despite its effect here :)
16:00:19 <bdmurray> ah, okay sorry about that
16:00:33 <slangasek> heh, I'll bet the package team mapping says something else, doesn't it
16:01:01 <bdmurray> I think it had started off as a d-i bug
16:01:24 <slangasek> oh neat, I can't load the package team mapping doc
16:01:27 <slangasek> ohwell
16:01:39 <xnox> fix is in debian, so it's an easy merge.
16:02:00 * slangasek assigns to Luke
16:02:09 <cjwatson> slangasek: package-team-mapping says brltty -> foundations
16:02:12 <cjwatson> which is wrong
16:02:29 <cjwatson> but trying to edit that thing over this network ...
16:02:34 <cjwatson> (not really happening)
16:02:34 <bdmurray> I'll fix it
16:02:43 <stokachu_> lag +234 sweeeeeeeet
16:02:45 <cjwatson> xnox: well, merge and sru
16:03:41 <slangasek> bdmurray: anything else?  (maybe give them in a batch if so, since we're at time)
16:03:59 <bdmurray> slangasek: just bug 488696
16:04:02 <ubottu> Launchpad bug 488696 in base-files (Ubuntu Quantal) "syntax error in nsswitch config near [ syntax error ]" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/488696
16:05:15 <xnox> i am guessing me?
16:05:36 <xnox> and for quantal it's just autofs package?
16:05:43 <xnox> instead of autofs5 package.
16:07:12 <slangasek> er... ok, I've never heard of an automount nsswitch.conf entry before
16:07:29 <slangasek> let's take that over to #ubuntu-devel for further analysis
16:07:33 <slangasek> [TOPIC] AOB
16:07:39 <slangasek> anything else?  you have -7 minutes to discuss
16:08:54 <slangasek> #endmeeting