16:00:32 <zul> #startmeeting 16:00:32 <meetingology> Meeting started Tue Jul 24 16:00:32 2012 UTC. The chair is zul. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology. 16:00:32 <meetingology> 16:00:32 <meetingology> Available commands: #accept #accepted #action #agree #agreed #chair #commands #endmeeting #endvote #halp #help #idea #info #link #lurk #meetingname #meetingtopic #nick #progress #rejected #replay #restrictlogs #save #startmeeting #subtopic #topic #unchair #undo #unlurk #vote #voters #votesrequired 16:00:39 <zul> so welcome to the server team meeting 16:00:52 <zul> #topic Review ACTION points from previous meeting 16:00:55 <jamespage> o/ 16:01:00 <zul> there are two from last meeting 16:01:12 <zul> arosales and daviey to work on trend line reset * everyone update their blueprint status 16:01:25 <arosales> zul: in progress 16:01:32 <zul> so first point: arosales and daviey to work on trend line reset 16:01:34 <zul> okies 16:01:44 <zul> and everybody should be updating their blueprints 16:01:44 <arosales> I haven't got the trend line reset, but working on getting the right level for topics 16:01:46 <zul> so next 16:01:48 <smoser> o/ 16:01:58 <zul> #topic Quantal Development 16:02:12 <zul> arosales/Daviey: ^^^ 16:02:31 <arosales> I have a few blueprint items to go over 16:02:55 <arosales> We are on week 13/25 (https://wiki.ubuntu.com/QuantalQuetzal/ReleaseSchedule) approaching the halfway mark and A3 this Thursday. 16:03:12 <arosales> half way, shocked me too 16:03:20 <zul> it goes by quick 16:03:34 <arosales> so we still have a few blueprints that are at 0% or near that 16:03:52 <arosales> given some work happens rapidly at the end I wanted to still touch base on a couple of those 16:04:10 <arosales> for the ARM ones @ 0% as rbasak is out I pined cmagina 16:04:16 <arosales> https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/servercloud-q-server-benchmark-and-performance 16:04:16 <arosales> https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/servercloud-q-arm-server-storage-testing 16:04:39 <arosales> Juju related 16:04:49 <arosales> SpamapS, m_3: any work items in progress here besides jitsu watch? 16:04:58 <arosales> for https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/servercloud-q-juju-charm-unit-tests 16:05:28 <arosales> I don't think SpamapS is here atm, so may have to lean on m_3 16:05:30 <m_3> arosales: not yet no... maybe making charmtester work for other providers counts here 16:05:41 <arosales> and have some logs for Spamaps to catch up on 16:05:43 <m_3> but not specifically tested against arm yet 16:06:06 <arosales> m_3: ok thanks 16:06:13 <arosales> m_3: SpamapS: work items for https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/servercloud-q-juju-charms-release-policy are mostly around post discussion. Is this a mailing list discussion, or something else? 16:07:12 <m_3> arosales: it's probably a "make the change and then deal with the fallout" item.. I _think_ this is on track with milestone freezes 16:07:13 <arosales> m_3: for unit testing that may be applicable against different providers 16:07:34 <arosales> m_3: ok thanks. 16:07:37 <arosales> and one more juju related bp 16:07:52 <arosales> m_3: any updates on charm best practices progress, https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/servercloud-q-juju-charm-best-practices 16:08:15 <arosales> Ursinha: any updates on reports for bug triage process for https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/servercloud-q-bug-triage-review 16:08:23 <m_3> arosales: more jitsu to add to best practices :) 16:09:10 <arosales> m_3: lots of todos for that one still 16:09:25 <arosales> may need to ping jcastro nad possible hazmat 16:09:40 <arosales> smoser and utlemming: any update on cloud-utils https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/servercloud-q-cloud-init-utils 16:09:40 <m_3> arosales: I'll take a look and update this week 16:10:03 <arosales> m_3: thanks, be good to get a better grasp on the juju related items for this cycle. 16:10:11 <smoser> not a lot of updates there. 16:10:12 <arosales> smoser and utlemming: any update on cloud-utils https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/servercloud-q-cloud-init-utils 16:10:22 <arosales> sorry, duplicate 16:10:28 <arosales> smoser since rbasak is out I think he was trying to set up a proof of concept for https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/servercloud-q-apt-improvements any other updates? 16:11:09 <smoser> arosales, he has spent time on that. 16:11:13 <smoser> and its in reasonable shape. 16:11:26 <smoser> i'm not sure of tatus byhond that. other than we have the general plan laid out and even mostly agreed to 16:11:52 <arosales> ok, I think rbasak was working on testing the prof of concept and getting feedback into the bug. 16:11:59 <arosales> will catch up on that with rbasak returns 16:12:01 <arosales> utlemming: are the RT tickets for the provisioning complete for https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/servercloud-q-push-to-the-clouds 16:12:28 <utlemming> arosales: more or less...I'm going full steam on the new build server now 16:12:51 <utlemming> arosales: I am still waiting on the public Jenkins instance for pushing results out. 16:13:19 <arosales> utlemming: ok, thanks 16:13:22 <arosales> I'll follow up with Ursinha`about reports for bug triage. I think were were targeting A3 for that to be complete. 16:13:22 <jamespage> utlemming, presumably thats not blocking this work tho? 16:13:42 <utlemming> jamespage: no...its not 16:13:44 <jamespage> arosales, yes - but that was a nominal date I chose. 16:14:25 <arosales> jamespage: gotcha, we can probably slip that a bit. I know Ursinha` has been doing a lot of work on her gravity reports 16:14:37 <arosales> zul: onto bugs? 16:14:43 <jamespage> arosales, which probably add more long term value anyway... 16:15:04 <arosales> yup 16:15:13 <zul> arosales: ye 16:15:20 <arosales> bug 1014005 16:15:21 <ubottu> Launchpad bug 1014005 in ipxe (Ubuntu) "Please generate and include ipxe.dsk to the ipxe binary package" [Wishlist,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1014005 16:15:36 <arosales> wishlist still it looks like 16:15:53 <arosales> bug 1023066 16:15:55 <ubottu> Launchpad bug 1023066 in quantum (Ubuntu) "python-quantum fails to install due to python syntax errors" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1023066 16:16:16 <zul> arosales: ill fixe that up 16:16:18 <arosales> adam_g: targeting A3? 16:16:23 <arosales> zul: thanks 16:16:40 <arosales> another quantum bug 1025203 16:16:42 <ubottu> Launchpad bug 1025203 in quantum (Ubuntu) "Trying to overwrite '/etc/quantum/plugins/openvswitch/ovs_quantum_plugin.ini', which is also in package quantum-server" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1025203 16:16:54 <zul> another one for me i guess 16:17:04 <arosales> zul: thanks again :-) 16:17:20 <arosales> zul: another quantum 16:17:24 <arosales> j/k 16:17:25 <arosales> cobbler 16:17:26 <arosales> :-) 16:17:30 <zul> stop picking on me! :) 16:17:45 <arosales> bug 858867 16:17:47 <ubottu> Launchpad bug 858867 in cobbler (Ubuntu Quantal) "XMLRPC allows unauthed users access to various methods (which it shouldn't) " [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/858867 16:17:49 <jamespage> o/ 16:18:02 <jamespage> I second smoser's opinion on this bug 16:18:22 <jamespage> its never going to be fixed - so please can we just 'Won't Fix' it 16:18:28 <jamespage> upstream don't think its a bug 16:18:42 <jamespage> any opinions? 16:18:45 <arosales> jamespage: any other place we should document this besides the bug? 16:19:01 <zul> README.Debian perhaps 16:19:01 <jamespage> I don't think so 16:19:19 <jamespage> zul, a warning sort of statement? 16:19:27 <zul> jamespage: yeah 16:19:44 <jamespage> zul, I guess that makes sense 16:20:04 <zul> jamespage: one liner is good enough 16:20:16 <jamespage> roaksoax, would you be OK todo that for quantal? 16:20:27 <jamespage> we don't need to fix in released version IMHO 16:20:46 <roaksoax> jamespage: +1 16:20:54 <jamespage> roaksoax, ta 16:20:57 <arosales> roaksoax: thanks 16:21:05 <zul> anything else? 16:21:05 <arosales> back to picking on zul 16:21:07 <arosales> bug 1020313 16:21:09 <ubottu> Launchpad bug 1020313 in horizon (Ubuntu) "openstack-dashboard hijacks the web root" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1020313 16:21:18 <zul> yeah still on my radar 16:21:40 <arosales> thanks 16:21:41 <arosales> and lastly 16:21:43 <arosales> bug 844995 16:21:45 <ubottu> Launchpad bug 844995 in python-couchdb (Ubuntu) "Drop support for couchdb related packages" [Undecided,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/844995 16:22:24 <zul> i should probably care about that one 16:22:48 <zul> arosales: anything else? 16:23:01 <arosales> thats it for http://reports.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/ubuntu-server/release-bugs.html 16:23:13 <arosales> couchdb may need for us to keep an eye out 16:23:31 <zul> okies 16:23:33 <arosales> zul and two FTBFS 16:23:44 <arosales> bug https://launchpad.net/bugs/1017113 16:23:45 <ubottu> Launchpad bug 1017113 in juju (Ubuntu) "Juju test suite fails sporadically due to low timeouts" [Medium,Triaged] 16:23:52 <arosales> and bug https://launchpad.net/bugs/935516 16:23:54 <ubottu> Launchpad bug 935516 in genshi (Ubuntu Quantal) "genshi version 0.6-2 FTBFS on i386 in precise" [High,Triaged] 16:24:11 <zul> in precise? 16:24:43 <Daviey> blocked on upstream 16:24:44 <arosales> yes, it appears so 16:25:30 <arosales> m_3: and you follow up with hazmat on bug 1017113? 16:25:32 <ubottu> Launchpad bug 1017113 in juju (Ubuntu) "Juju test suite fails sporadically due to low timeouts" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1017113 16:25:37 <arosales> zul, ok back to you 16:25:40 <m_3> arosales: sure 16:25:46 <zul> #topic 12.04.1 Development (jamespage & smoser) 16:25:50 <arosales> m_3: thanks 16:26:31 <zul> jamespage/smoser: you are up 16:26:38 <jamespage> zul, ta 16:27:05 <jamespage> broadley good; lets focus on a few stuck bugs for 12.04.1 16:27:15 <jamespage> bug 920197 16:27:17 <ubottu> Launchpad bug 920197 in python-webob (Ubuntu Precise) "[SRU] webob last stable version 1.1.1 response header bug" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/920197 16:27:30 <jamespage> zul: any progress on this one? 16:27:31 <zul> arrrgh 16:27:42 <jamespage> as you are waiting for NEW queue reviews :-) 16:27:44 <zul> will do so right after the meeting 16:27:46 <jamespage> ta 16:27:52 <zul> or meetings 16:28:48 <jamespage> bug 1006898 16:28:50 <ubottu> Launchpad bug 1006898 in dnsmasq (Ubuntu Precise) "[SRU] dnsmasq fails at leasing issues when using vlan mode" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1006898 16:28:55 * jamespage kicks zul again 16:29:01 <zul> *sigh* 16:29:11 <jamespage> but he's not had it for long 16:29:51 <jamespage> bug 966577 and bug 1006553 16:29:53 <adam_g> /win 9 16:29:53 <ubottu> Launchpad bug 966577 in juju (Ubuntu Precise) "add explicit egress 'owner' rule on non-bootstrapping nodes to require root access to zookeeper" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/966577 16:29:55 <ubottu> Launchpad bug 1006553 in juju "local provider machine agent uses 100% CPU after host reboot" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1006553 16:30:04 <jamespage> hmm - no SpamapS - will catch him later 16:30:16 <jamespage> and finally bug 1014872 16:30:18 <ubottu> Launchpad bug 1014872 in mysql-5.5 (Ubuntu Precise) "no debug symbols for mysql-server" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1014872 16:30:33 <jamespage> which really needs a volunteer to investigate and resolve 16:30:35 <jamespage> anyone? 16:31:13 <jamespage> ... 16:31:18 * jamespage will find someone 16:31:52 <jamespage> other than that everything else assigned to individuals on the in-flight list is either pending acceptance into -proposed 16:32:12 <jamespage> or pending verification - please do feel free to verify something if you have the time. 16:32:25 <jamespage> other than any questions thats me done.... 16:32:33 <zul> okies 16:32:39 <adam_g> jamespage: not sure how to get it in your radar, but Bug #1025544 currently blocks nova folsom on P. 16:32:42 <ubottu> Launchpad bug 1025544 in sqlalchemy (Ubuntu Quantal) "[SRU] schema changes using sqlalchemy's sqlite dialect can fail when using reflection" [Undecided,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1025544 16:32:44 <arosales> jamespage: then not too shabby then for 12.04.1 16:32:57 <adam_g> jamespage: just got the SRU proposed yesterday, so.. 16:33:10 <jamespage> adam_g, great - we probably should add that to the server package list 16:33:13 <jamespage> I'll do that 16:33:22 <zul> anything else? 16:33:40 <zul> #topic Ubuntu Server Team Events 16:33:46 <zul> any events coming up? 16:33:54 <arosales> OSCON went well :-) next on the list is CloudOpen 29-31 August, spamaps there. 16:34:08 <zul> uds coming up soon :) 16:34:10 <m_3> cool videos of the cloud migration coming soon 16:34:13 <zul> it will be here soon enough 16:34:15 <jamespage> Openstack Meetup in London tomorrow - Daviey and I will be there 16:34:25 <arosales> m_3: are you still attending RubyConf? 16:34:31 <m_3> texas linux fest next week 16:34:59 <m_3> arosales: not planned atm... texas linuxfest, and then puppetconf if my talk gets greenlighted 16:35:14 <arosales> m_3: ok. I see that is Nov 1-3 too 16:35:30 <m_3> yeah, it overlapped with something more important iirc 16:35:33 * arosales updates the juju events wiki page 16:35:41 <zul> m_3: traveling salesman 16:35:45 <m_3> I know 16:35:51 <m_3> totally 16:35:58 <zul> with the bibles or knives 16:36:12 <arosales> juju, so both 16:36:14 <m_3> traveling "bite my nails because mark likes to do live demos" guy 16:36:26 <zul> lol 16:36:31 <zul> anytthing else? 16:36:48 <zul> #topic Weekly Updates & Questions for the QA Team (hggdh) 16:36:54 <zul> hi hggdh or random qa person 16:37:32 <zul> anything qa relevant 16:37:42 <zul> iso should be testing...ah that brings me back 16:37:50 <zul> if not 16:37:58 <zul> #topic Weekly Updates & Questions for the Kernel Team (smb) 16:38:00 <zul> hi smb 16:38:11 <smb> hia 16:38:13 <smb> I attended the kernel-team spring in Portland last week. Apart from a, err, minor panic situation for Oneric 32bit cloud-images, I was persuading to fix the Xen package for Precise. The crash kernel issues are now at least understood (big initrd and wasting memory in any way is not well taken). Hopefully the kernel-part for Qunatal will make progress upstream. Otherwise, are there questions? 16:38:15 <smb> .. 16:39:04 <zul> any other questions? 16:39:09 <utlemming> for the panic situation 16:39:37 <utlemming> the good news is that both QA and Ubuntu Server are now tracking -proposed in automated testing to make sure we don't have to panic in the future. 16:39:58 <zul> cool beans 16:40:05 <arosales> utlemming: nice \o/ 16:40:17 <utlemming> for those interested, we have an incident report at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IncidentReports/2012-07-19-oneiric-kernel-regression-kills-EC2-instances 16:40:30 <zul> yay xen! 16:40:34 <zul> i love it 16:41:01 <smb> Always a source of joy... :) 16:41:12 <zul> and male pattern baldness 16:41:22 <zul> #topic Weekly Updates & Questions regarding Ubuntu ARM Server (rbasak) 16:41:32 <zul> can we skip this part since rbasak is on holiday 16:41:45 <zul> or does anyone have any arm related stuff? 16:42:00 <zul> if you want to try arm images on openstack you can do so through trystack.org now 16:42:15 <jamespage> that works quite well - alot faster than my pandaboard 16:42:24 <zul> i should hope so 16:43:04 <zul> #topic Open Discussion 16:43:25 <zul> anything people want to talk about 16:43:50 <zul> if not 16:43:52 <arosales> Call for testing 16:44:16 <arosales> server on A3 16:44:23 <jamespage> https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-server/2012-July/006359.html 16:44:36 <arosales> jamespage: ah, thank you 16:45:52 <arosales> zul: seems like we can wrap it up then 16:45:56 <zul> #topic Announce next meeting date and time 16:46:02 <zul> same bat channel same bat place 16:46:04 <zul> #endmeeting