15:02:03 <cjwatson> #startmeeting 15:02:03 <meetingology> Meeting started Wed Jul 4 15:02:03 2012 UTC. The chair is cjwatson. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology. 15:02:03 <meetingology> 15:02:03 <meetingology> Available commands: #accept #accepted #action #agree #agreed #chair #commands #endmeeting #endvote #halp #help #idea #info #link #lurk #meetingname #meetingtopic #nick #progress #rejected #replay #restrictlogs #save #startmeeting #subtopic #topic #unchair #undo #unlurk #vote #voters #votesrequired 15:02:11 <cjwatson> #topic lightning round 15:02:13 <cjwatson> $ echo $(shuf -e cjwatson ev ogra jodh stgraber infinity xnox) 15:02:13 <cjwatson> xnox stgraber ev infinity cjwatson ogra jodh 15:02:26 <cjwatson> I think I remembered the set of people who're off today correctly 15:02:37 <xnox> i am first for the first time 15:02:39 <xnox> ubiquity-lvm auto install works with UI, apart from the install fails 15:02:39 <xnox> due to new bug #1020574 15:02:39 <xnox> did patch piloting, see report on the mailing list 15:02:39 <xnox> got access to HPCloud together with a few other devs, started to 15:02:39 <xnox> jujufy collab-qa/cloud-scripts.git for launching archive rebuilds. The 15:02:41 <xnox> goal is full archive rebuild in 8 hours (excluding libreoffice). 15:02:41 <ubottu> Launchpad bug 1020574 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "SystemError: Broken pipe while installing language packs" [Critical,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1020574 15:02:43 <xnox> got panda board, didn't install it 15:02:45 <xnox> two packages left for boost1.49: player (quick fix), and ball (FTBFS 15:02:47 <xnox> with gcc4.7 and gcc4.6, and python-moc) 15:03:04 <cjwatson> lvm auto install> well done, good start :) 15:03:10 <cjwatson> (is there a branch somewhere for it?) 15:03:15 * xnox should push 15:03:25 <xnox> after removing swear words from commit messages 15:03:35 <xnox> i am in the office today 15:03:49 <xnox> and will be working with mpt for the second part of the week on the RAID and LUKS design 15:03:51 <xnox> .. 15:04:20 <stgraber> Short week, Monday was a public holiday (Canada day). 15:04:20 <stgraber> - Containers 15:04:20 <stgraber> - Some bugfixes in quantal, rebased the API branch and PPA on that. 15:04:20 <stgraber> - Started preparing the next SRU (got 4-5 fixes already). 15:04:20 <stgraber> - ISO tracker 15:04:22 <stgraber> - Migrated package testing content from staging tracker to production tracker. 15:04:25 <stgraber> - Networking 15:04:27 <stgraber> - Went through all the bugs related to the network stack (netbase, isc-dhcp, ifupdown, resolvconf, vlan, ifenslave-2.6, iproute). 15:04:30 <stgraber> - Merged isc-dhcp, ifupdown, netbase and resolvconf. 15:04:33 <stgraber> - Synced bridge-utils (no more delta!). 15:04:35 <stgraber> - Started going through the bugs for ppp and libnl-3. 15:04:38 <stgraber> - Other 15:04:41 <stgraber> - Alpha-2 release on Thursday. 15:04:43 <stgraber> - Updated casper, fixing bug 1013843 and adding proper support for cifs boot. 15:04:45 <ubottu> Launchpad bug 1013843 in casper (Ubuntu Quantal) "resolv.conf empty when doing PXE installations" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1013843 15:04:46 <stgraber> - 12.04.1 team meeting and minutes 15:04:49 <stgraber> - TODO this week 15:04:51 <stgraber> - Some ISO tracker improvements (and getting IS to deploy) 15:04:53 <stgraber> - Finish reviewing/triaging ppp and libnl-3 bugs, then start looking at SRUs for the network packages. 15:04:57 <stgraber> - Go through the pending-sru and help for these that are stuck on verification-needed 15:05:00 <stgraber> (DONE) 15:05:12 <ev> - Took a few passes with great reviews from pitti, but I've finally finished 15:05:13 <ev> writing the error reports from application hangs feature in apport and 15:05:13 <ev> merged it into trunk. 15:05:13 <ev> - Wrote support for the apport application hangs into compiz. Just tidying up 15:05:13 <ev> and will submit for review later today. 15:05:13 <ev> - Started investigating the implementation work for the new debconf dialogs: 15:05:13 <ev> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ErrorTracker#debconf 15:05:14 <ev> - Started writing my trip report for the Software Experts Summit. Nearly done. 15:05:14 <ev> (done) 15:05:41 <infinity> * This past week: 15:05:41 <infinity> - Finished up my +1 maint month 15:05:41 <infinity> - Did some SRU work, including a big round of kernel updates 15:05:41 <infinity> - Celebrated Canada Day with beer and poutine 15:05:41 <infinity> - Fixed some ARM issues in both Debian and Ubuntu 15:05:44 <infinity> - Investigated GNU R breakage on ARM, made progress 15:05:46 <infinity> - Started setting up Britney on my local network 15:05:49 <infinity> * Upcoming week: 15:05:51 <infinity> - More Britney fiddling 15:05:54 <infinity> - eglibc SRUs for a few issues 15:05:56 <infinity> - DebConf 15:05:59 <infinity> - Naps 15:06:01 <infinity> ⚐ 15:06:48 <cjwatson> Did the half-started pile of branches I had lying around for britney help at all? 15:07:22 <infinity> cjwatson: I've not actually looked at your half-started branches yet. Nor do I remember where you half put them. ;) 15:07:45 <cjwatson> lillypilly:~cjwatson/proposed-migration/ 15:07:48 <infinity> (Yesterday was the first chance I really had to dive in much at all, now that I no longer have minions interrupting me) 15:07:51 <cjwatson> All my state was there 15:08:10 <cjwatson> Well, if you want to pair-hack on it for a while at some point, I'm available - or not, if that'd be a distraction :) 15:08:12 <infinity> Shiny. Will look when awake. 15:08:22 <cjwatson> UEFI: 15:08:22 <cjwatson> * efilinux menu patch landed. 15:08:22 <cjwatson> * Launchpad custom-uefi branch landed. QA in progress. 15:08:22 <cjwatson> Launchpad: 15:08:22 <cjwatson> * Fixed bug 795005 (although not usable until another bug is fixed, since that other bug means that copies to PPAs are currently disabled). 15:08:24 <ubottu> Launchpad bug 795005 in Launchpad itself "Asynchronous PPA copying with default series OOPSes" [Critical,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/795005 15:08:25 <cjwatson> * Split up my queue-api branch into several smaller branches and started getting those reviewed and landed: 15:08:29 <cjwatson> * New name, version, and exact_match parameters to DistroSeries.getPackageUploads (deployed). 15:08:32 <cjwatson> * Refactor PackageUpload.overrideBinaries interface for performance (deployed). 15:08:35 <cjwatson> * Export read-only properties and methods on PackageUpload (in QA). 15:08:37 <cjwatson> Installer: 15:08:40 <cjwatson> * Added some more fonts to desktop installs by default to support languages offered by the installer (bug 1015483). 15:08:41 <ubottu> Launchpad bug 1015483 in ubuntu-meta (Ubuntu Quantal) "ubiquity-dm: 2 language names wrongly displayed (missing font?)" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1015483 15:08:43 <cjwatson> * Fixed another bit of python-apt 0.8 API porting (bug 1018759). 15:08:44 <ubottu> Launchpad bug 1018759 in ubiquity (Ubuntu Quantal) "ubiquity crashed with TypeError: update() takes exactly 2 arguments (1 given)" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1018759 15:08:46 <cjwatson> * Fixed non-cylinder alignment on GPT (bug 1006894). 15:08:47 <ubottu> Launchpad bug 1006894 in partman-base (Ubuntu Precise) "Partitions are misaligned when using GPT on disks w/ 4096 byte physical sectors" [Critical,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1006894 15:08:48 <cjwatson> * Verified some old installer SRUs. 15:08:51 <cjwatson> * Fixed incorrect removal of /var/lib/mysql and /var/lib/mythtv on live CD upgrade (bug 992241). 15:08:52 <ubottu> Launchpad bug 992241 in partman-target (Ubuntu Precise) "Upgrading using the live cd wipes /var/lib/mythtv/*" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/992241 15:08:54 <cjwatson> Image building: 15:08:56 <cjwatson> * Got point release candidate images building with -proposed (bug 1019514). 15:08:58 <ubottu> Launchpad bug 1019514 in livecd-rootfs (Ubuntu Precise) "Need to be able to generate images with -proposed in sources.list" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1019514 15:08:59 <cjwatson> Other: 15:09:02 <cjwatson> * Fixed bash to stop hardcoding command-not-found's interpreter. 15:09:04 <cjwatson> * Fixed pending-triggers detection in dpkg-reconfigure (bug 1018884). 15:09:05 <ubottu> Launchpad bug 1018884 in debconf (Ubuntu) "debconf: setting console triggers update-initramfs" [Medium,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1018884 15:09:07 <cjwatson> * Usual round of syncs and merges. 15:09:09 <cjwatson> * Endless flow of archive admin. 15:09:12 <cjwatson> * Got a compose key working, several years after everyone else. In celebration: 15:09:15 <cjwatson> ☭ 15:09:17 <cjwatson> (best compose key sequence evah) 15:09:59 <ogra_> done: 15:10:00 <ogra_> * tried to debug plymouth issues on various arm images (ongoing) 15:10:00 <ogra_> * banging my head against an ac100 kernel/image issue (upgrades work, images fail booting with a kernel panic) 15:10:00 <ogra_> * ac100 image build debugging 15:10:00 <ogra_> * plenty of kernel testing on omap4 15:10:01 <ogra_> * booked flight for QA sprint end of the month 15:10:03 <ogra_> todo: 15:10:05 <ogra_> * foundations-q-hwpack-integration 15:10:07 <ogra_> * finally get ac100 to work all over again 15:10:11 <ogra_> * look at what QA wants to have set up during the sprint 15:10:29 <ogra_> (your preferred utf-8 end sign here) 15:11:01 <jodh> * boot/upstart: stateful re-exec work: 15:11:01 <jodh> - Made code 64-bit safe (time-consuming due to awkwardness of JSON-C). 15:11:01 <jodh> - Currently working on Job serialisation and all its associated 15:11:01 <jodh> tentacles. 15:11:04 <jodh> * misc: on holiday Friday 6th and next week. 15:11:07 <jodh> ⟿ 15:11:11 <jodh> 15:11:19 <stgraber> cjwatson: good to hear the -proposed change landed, I'll test a desktop image later this week so we can get ubiquity out of proposed 15:11:26 <xnox> ogra_: (in text2speech audio description ;-) ) 15:11:45 <cjwatson> stgraber: Yeah, I've tried a couple of times but for some reason was having trouble getting it to use a proxy at all 15:11:49 <ogra_> *g* 15:12:38 <xnox> cjwatson: can't you pressed the proxy via apt.conf setting or via debconf. 15:12:40 <xnox> ? 15:12:46 <cjwatson> Yes, I did 15:12:50 <xnox> =( 15:12:50 <xnox> ok 15:12:58 <cjwatson> Something was weird and I didn't get a chance to investigate properly 15:13:13 <jodh> ogra_: what are the plymouth issues out of interest? 15:13:29 <stgraber> IIRC ubiquity is supposed to pick it up from gsettings, but that's a part of the code that I touched quite a while ago and isn't widely tested (if at all) 15:13:29 <cjwatson> I had a suspicion maybe the python-apt code in scripts/{plugin,}install wasn't picking up the setting or something, but it was just a guess 15:13:47 <ogra_> jodh, one is an issue with the omap4 kernel providing a drm device but not attaching it to any output ... 15:13:51 <cjwatson> Maybe setting it in the live session's apt.conf as well as preseeding it would help, for the purposes of getting this verified 15:14:14 <ogra_> jodh, the other is still unidentified (still trying to fix the kernel issue on ac100 first) 15:15:07 * xnox so it's the network's transparent proxy which is borked... since there is no obvious way to force proxy usage. Can it be done outside of the VM for example.. 15:15:22 <cjwatson> #topic bugs 15:15:54 <cjwatson> Steve asked me if we could have a quick look through some of the 12.04.1 targeted bugs and make sure that (a) any that should be on target are (b) any that we shouldn't care about aren't on the list 15:16:23 <xnox> from the subset of ~foundations subscribed/assigned/personal? 15:16:31 <cjwatson> stgraber: Does https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/precise/+bugs?field.milestone=49926 match the list you're working from? 15:16:34 <xnox> or just all the 12.04.1? 15:16:46 <cjwatson> xnox: the above is the URL Steve gave me 15:16:48 <stgraber> cjwatson: I guess I'll simply make that perl script the transparent proxy for that VM, that's a pretty simple iptables rule 15:17:05 <cjwatson> stgraber: That should work, yeah 15:17:08 <stgraber> cjwatson: yep, that's the one 15:17:20 <cjwatson> I picked out a few categories from that 15:17:48 <cjwatson> There's the multi-arch bugs, which IIRC stokachu has moderately well in hand, although he's presumably out celebrating independence today 15:18:05 <cjwatson> (bug 977940, bug 977964, bug 977947, bug 977952, bug 977959) 15:18:10 <ubottu> Launchpad bug 977940 in gnome-vfs (Ubuntu Precise) "Please transition gnome-vfs to multi-arch" [Medium,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/977940 15:18:11 <ubottu> Launchpad bug 977964 in libart-lgpl (Ubuntu Precise) "Please transition libart-lgpl to multi-arch" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/977964 15:18:13 <ubottu> Launchpad bug 977947 in libbonobo (Ubuntu Quantal) "Please transition libbonobo to multi-arch" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/977947 15:18:14 <ubottu> Launchpad bug 977952 in libbonoboui (Ubuntu Precise) "Please transition libbonoboui to multi-arch" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/977952 15:18:16 <ubottu> Launchpad bug 977959 in libgnome (Ubuntu Precise) "Please transition libgnome to multi-arch" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/977959 15:18:51 <cjwatson> There's the bugs that I put in category "xnox" 15:18:52 <cjwatson> bug 978012, bug 1002357, bug 1009973, bug 1017407, bug 942106, bug 968074, bug 969384 15:18:58 <ubottu> Launchpad bug 978012 in e2fsprogs (Ubuntu Precise) "Please SRU micro bug fix release of e2fsprogs 1.42.4-3ubuntu1 (main) from Quantal (main)" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/978012 15:19:00 <ubottu> Launchpad bug 1002357 in mdadm (Ubuntu Precise) "sort out udev rules madness (3 editions installed into 4 files)" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1002357 15:19:01 <ubottu> Launchpad bug 1009973 in mdadm (Ubuntu Precise) "SRU upstream bugfix micro point release 3.2.5" [Wishlist,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1009973 15:19:02 <ubottu> Launchpad bug 1017407 in mdadm (Ubuntu Precise) "should copy /etc/udev/ rule if available" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1017407 15:19:03 <ubottu> Launchpad bug 942106 in mdadm (Ubuntu Precise) "software raid doesn't assemble before mount on boot" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/942106 15:19:33 <xnox> cjwatson: so the mdadm SRU for all of these got rejected, because of being overenthusiastic. 15:19:39 <cjwatson> and there's everything else 15:19:40 <cjwatson> bug 523896, bug 683640, bug 946406, bug 970638, bug 974584, bug 994575, bug 1003842, bug 1006898, bug 1017001 15:19:46 <ubottu> Launchpad bug 523896 in shadow (Ubuntu Quantal) "useradd: cannot lock /etc/passwd; try again later." [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/523896 15:19:47 <ubottu> Launchpad bug 683640 in lsb (Ubuntu Quantal) "status_of_proc is returning incorrect error code" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/683640 15:19:49 <ubottu> Launchpad bug 946406 in casper (Ubuntu Quantal) "suspect race condition Keyboard layout, oem-config not set on persistent USB image" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/946406 15:19:50 <ubottu> Launchpad bug 970638 in psmisc (Ubuntu Precise) "killall can't kill processes with fairly long names (Ubuntu 12.04)" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/970638 15:19:51 <ubottu> Launchpad bug 974584 in sysvinit (Ubuntu Quantal) "Semaphores cannot be created in lxc container" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/974584 15:20:01 <xnox> cjwatson: the e2fsprogs SRU is pending review from infinity, but it potentially also needs cleaning up. 15:20:12 <cjwatson> And apparently ubottu has rate-limited me, sigh 15:20:38 <cjwatson> xnox: So are each of the non-microrelease bugs on mdadm still good targets, or are you going to pare that down? 15:20:48 <cjwatson> As in, is it a matter of backporting specific patches? 15:21:07 <stgraber> bug 946406 might be related to bug 985065 15:21:10 <ubottu> Launchpad bug 946406 in casper (Ubuntu Quantal) "suspect race condition Keyboard layout, oem-config not set on persistent USB image" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/946406 15:21:11 <ubottu> Launchpad bug 985065 in xkeyboard-config (Ubuntu Precise) "Can't use fr/oss keyboard layout by default" [High,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/985065 15:21:48 <cjwatson> Meh, I'll take that psmisc one, since I've been uploading the quantal merges anyway 15:22:38 <infinity> It looks straightforward. 15:23:03 <xnox> cjwatson: yes they are. i need to revert a couple of patches from the micro-release of mdadm and it should be good to go. 15:23:26 <xnox> those that change interfaces. 15:23:57 <cjwatson> stgraber: There's a cluster of four dnsmasq and resolvconf bugs; are you happy with all of those being listed? 15:24:29 <ev> cjwatson: I've tidied up https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Ubiquity 15:25:01 <stgraber> cjwatson: I need to go through them but it's very unlikely we'll fix them as they'd be pretty significant behaviour changes, IIRC most of them are linked to NM and so should be somewhere on cyphermox's list 15:25:32 <cjwatson> OK, I'll assume you'll shift the milestone if you nack them, then 15:25:42 <stgraber> yep 15:25:59 <cjwatson> Sigh, LP's assignee listings are unhelpful for this list 15:26:06 <cjwatson> (some of the Nones are lies) 15:26:39 <stgraber> I'll try to do some nagging this week, making sure the various teams assign the bugs they're planning to work on or move the bugs to another milestone 15:26:53 <cjwatson> Does anyone know about bug 683640? It's currently milestoned for 12.04.1 and also rls-q-notfixing, which seems like an unlikely combination 15:26:54 <ubottu> Launchpad bug 683640 in lsb (Ubuntu Quantal) "status_of_proc is returning incorrect error code" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/683640 15:27:07 <xnox> cjwatson: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+milestone/ubuntu-12.04.1 15:27:13 <xnox> but it's not the whole truth 15:27:56 <cjwatson> Right, I know there are various possibilities but I explicitly want to work off the same list as Steve so that I'm not missing things 15:28:13 <xnox> ok 15:28:30 <cjwatson> Bug 974584 (sysvinit) and bug 523896 (shadow) appear to need assignees; any volunteers? 15:28:32 <ubottu> Launchpad bug 974584 in sysvinit (Ubuntu Quantal) "Semaphores cannot be created in lxc container" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/974584 15:28:33 <ubottu> Launchpad bug 523896 in shadow (Ubuntu Quantal) "useradd: cannot lock /etc/passwd; try again later." [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/523896 15:29:47 <infinity> I can try to poke at the shadow bug, though I have some eglibc SRUs that trump it for urgency. 15:29:50 <stgraber> the sysvinit one is being worked on by slangasek/hallyn 15:30:32 <xnox> ev: bug 994921 15:30:34 <ubottu> Launchpad bug 994921 in apport (Ubuntu Quantal) "'ubuntu-bug /var/crash/app.crash' (and even more so, 'apport-cli -c /var/crash/app.crash') should still allow manual bug filing in stable releases" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/994921 15:31:26 <ev> xnox: cheers 15:32:05 <cjwatson> stgraber: Neither of whom is assigned, but OK ... 15:32:29 <cjwatson> Ah, he's assigned to the lxc task, not the sysvinit one 15:32:30 <cjwatson> OK 15:33:38 <stgraber> cjwatson: yeah, I'll poke him for a status update on that bug tomorrow and to figure out who of slangasek and hallyn is actually working on it 15:34:15 <stgraber> IIRC there's a fix that landed in Debian (or in the vcs branch) but that slangasek then considered wrong, so it's still being discussed 15:39:18 <cjwatson> ev: wiki> thanks, much better 15:39:31 <ev> cjwatson: sure thing 15:39:58 <cjwatson> #topic AOB 15:40:00 <cjwatson> Anything else? 15:41:30 <ev> nope! 15:41:45 <ogra_> not here 15:42:26 <xnox> Happy Canada Day! 15:42:38 <xnox> _ 15:42:38 <xnox> (_) 15:42:38 <xnox> |______________________________________ 15:42:38 <xnox> |&&&&&&& &&&&&&&| 15:42:38 <xnox> |&&&&&&& &&&&&&&| 15:42:41 <xnox> |&&&&&&& &&&&&&&| 15:42:41 * ogra_ looks for a maple leaf shirt 15:42:43 <xnox> |&&&&&&& .\^/. &&&&&&&| 15:42:45 <xnox> |&&&&&&& . |&&&| . &&&&&&&| 15:42:46 <xnox> |&&&&&&& |\|&&&|/| &&&&&&&| 15:42:48 <xnox> |&&&&&&& .--'&&&&&&&'--. &&&&&&&| 15:42:50 <xnox> |&&&&&&& \&&&&&&&&&&&/ &&&&&&&| 15:42:52 <xnox> |&&&&&&& >&&&&&&&&&< &&&&&&&| 15:42:54 <xnox> |&&&&&&& '~|/~~|~~\|~' &&&&&&&| 15:42:56 <xnox> |&&&&&&& | &&&&&&&| 15:42:58 <xnox> |&&&&&&& &&&&&&&| 15:43:00 <xnox> |&&&&&&& &&&&&&&| 15:43:02 <xnox> |&&&&&&&________________________&&JGS&&| 15:43:04 <xnox> |~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ 15:43:06 <xnox> | 15:43:10 <infinity> I'm pretty insulted by that awful ASCII art. 15:43:10 <xnox> | 15:43:12 <xnox> | 15:43:14 <xnox> | 15:43:16 <xnox> | 15:43:18 <xnox> | 15:43:20 <xnox> | 15:43:22 <xnox> | 15:43:24 * xnox =( 15:43:29 <cjwatson> all right, thanks all, safe travels to debconf if you're going; better close the meeting before we get any more ascii art :) 15:43:32 <cjwatson> #endmeeting