16:00:07 <Ursinha> #startmeeting ubuntu-server-team
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16:00:31 <Ursinha> #topic Review ACTION points from previous meeting
16:00:32 <Ursinha> hello people, let's do this
16:00:52 * smb is listening
16:01:00 <arosales> hello
16:01:06 <jimbaker> hi
16:01:11 <Ursinha> there's only one action item, it seems
16:01:17 <Ursinha> * rbasak follow up on IS request to move Ubuntu Server blog
16:01:39 <Ursinha> rbasak isn't here, it seems
16:01:51 <roaksoax> o.
16:01:52 <roaksoax> o/
16:02:09 <arosales> Ursinha: there is a ticket out. I'll follow up with rbask
16:02:21 <arosales> ah there is rbasak
16:02:25 <Ursinha> just pinged him
16:02:27 <Ursinha> :)
16:02:31 <rbasak> Sorry I'm late
16:02:32 <Ursinha> hi rbasak :)
16:02:35 <Ursinha> * rbasak follow up on IS request to move Ubuntu Server blog
16:02:35 <lynxman> o/
16:02:43 <rbasak> Still waiting on response from IS
16:02:43 <adam_g> o/
16:02:45 <Ursinha> no problem, thanks for coming :)
16:02:52 <Ursinha> all right
16:02:53 <Ursinha> thanks rbasak and arosales
16:03:10 <Ursinha> we should add a roll call section to the meeting :)
16:03:15 <Ursinha> moving on
16:03:16 <Ursinha> #topic Quantal Development
16:03:24 <zul> hiho
16:03:40 <Ursinha> #topic Release Bugs - http://reports.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/ubuntu-server/release-bugs.html
16:03:46 <Ursinha> here's the magic link
16:03:55 <Ursinha> #topic Blueprints - http://status.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-precise/ubuntu-server.html
16:04:16 <Ursinha> well, there are two development sections in the meeting, is this correct or....
16:04:31 <Ursinha> ah no, sorry, :)
16:04:34 <Daviey> So.. that URL contains too much noise
16:04:46 <Ursinha> which one?
16:04:53 <Daviey> Ursinha: http://status.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-precise/ubuntu-server.html
16:05:05 <Daviey> We need to use topic urls :(
16:05:21 <Daviey> too many people are in ~ubuntu-server to make that a good tracking team
16:05:29 <Daviey> Ie, includes too many Desktop related blueprints
16:06:05 <Ursinha> Daviey, what about this: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-server/+upcomingwork
16:06:25 <Daviey> Ursinha: same..
16:06:29 <Ursinha> Daviey, I see your point
16:06:29 <Daviey> oh
16:07:06 <Daviey> http://status.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-quantal/#Servercloud .. works best i think
16:07:19 <Ursinha> Daviey, those are actually defect analyst related, if you want to get rid of them, probably will want me to be removed from the team
16:07:22 <Ursinha> that should work
16:07:35 <Daviey> Ursinha: no!  You are a valued member
16:07:52 <Daviey> Ursinha: it's not just you, it hits anyone working on something un-servery who has an interest in server
16:08:22 <Ursinha> Daviey, maybe ~ubuntu-server is too generic for what we want
16:08:24 <Ursinha> ?
16:09:01 <Daviey> Ursinha: it is, but we have nothing else.. Using topic tracking is a big ++ :)
16:09:05 * Daviey stops distracting
16:09:18 <Ursinha> no, that's a valid point
16:09:29 <rbasak> Perhaps we need an ~ubuntu-server-developers subteam?
16:09:56 <Daviey> rbasak: we have that... but that would still hit anyone who is a member of that team, and a member of say security or foundations team
16:09:59 <Ursinha> rbasak, I guess the problem is that developers participate in several topics
16:10:20 <Daviey> So we either only track Canonical driven blueprints.. Which we simply won't do.. :) .. or use topics.
16:11:21 <Ursinha> something to think about..
16:11:30 <Ursinha> so, bugs: http://reports.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/ubuntu-server/release-bugs.html
16:13:02 <Ursinha> who's working on bug 914160? it's in progress but has no assignee, it seems?
16:13:03 <ubottu> Launchpad bug 914160 in openvswitch (Ubuntu) "[MIR] openvswitch" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/914160
16:13:31 <Ursinha> also bug 912861
16:13:33 <ubottu> Launchpad bug 912861 in juju (Ubuntu) "[MIR] juju, txaws, txzookeeper" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/912861
16:13:56 <Daviey> zul, leveraging Ben Pfaff (blp-nicira)  if possible?
16:14:10 <zul> Ursinha:  it just got re-added this morning
16:14:17 <zul> Daviey: sure
16:15:17 <Ursinha> right, can those be assigned? :)
16:16:10 <Ursinha> we have four bugs targeted to alpha 3, three of them assigned to jdstrand, one to ubuntu-server team
16:16:32 <Ursinha> do we have any other issues that should be addressed?
16:17:24 * Ursinha looks around?
16:17:28 <Ursinha> nothing?
16:18:28 <Ursinha> Daviey, anything to add?
16:20:00 <Ursinha> ok, people might be busy now
16:20:04 <Ursinha> moving on then
16:20:08 <Ursinha> #topic 12.04.1 Development (jamespage & smoser)
16:20:16 <smoser> so.
16:20:50 <smoser> we have lots of bugs on https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/precise/+bugs?field.milestone%3Alist=49926
16:21:36 <smoser> we also are explicitly assigned several at http://status.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/kernel-bugs/reports/rls-p-tracking-bugs.html
16:21:49 <smoser> 12.04.1 is August 23rd, with freeze on the 16th
16:21:52 <Daviey> smoser: how is it looking?  What do you expect the bug count to be at release?
16:22:03 <smoser> i'm somewhat concerned that we're not speding any resources on addressing these.
16:22:21 <Daviey> right
16:22:31 <smoser> well, on the first list, the "right" number at 12.04.1 is zero
16:22:35 <Daviey> smoser: you are empowered to share out the work :)
16:22:56 * smoser quickly presses assign-to-daviey on all bugs
16:22:59 <Daviey> smoser: So, lets divide the amount of people by zero, and we have our result.
16:24:01 <smoser> i will spend some time looking at those two lists, and the ones that fall into server, and (hopefully with the help of the great jamespage) do some assigning.
16:24:09 <Daviey> \o/
16:24:19 <arosales> Daviey: I'll follow up with m_3, SpamapS, and jimbaker on the juju ones @ http://status.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/kernel-bugs/reports/rls-p-tracking-bugs.html for server
16:24:20 <smoser> we just have to make sure, that while August 16 seems "far away"...
16:24:43 <Ursinha> cool, thanks smoser
16:25:15 <Ursinha> anything else?
16:25:27 <arosales> also anyone feel welcome to review the unassigned list @ http://people.canonical.com/~jamespage/server-sru/precise-sru.html
16:25:35 <arosales> for SRUs for precise
16:25:58 <arosales> ..
16:26:16 <Ursinha> great, thanks arosales
16:26:22 <Ursinha> moving on
16:26:25 <Ursinha> #topic Ubuntu Server Team Events
16:26:52 <Daviey> Mr Page is at Europython
16:27:16 <Ursinha> jamespage is at Euro Python right now
16:27:18 <Ursinha> that :)
16:27:25 <arosales> oscon is next on the list for july 16-20
16:27:48 <Ursinha> anything else?
16:27:55 <Daviey> nein
16:28:14 <Ursinha> right
16:28:21 <Ursinha> moving one
16:28:23 <Ursinha> on, even
16:28:24 <Ursinha> #topic Weekly Updates & Questions for the QA Team (hggdh)
16:28:33 <Ursinha> hggdh, hello there
16:29:11 <Daviey> or jibel ?
16:29:26 <Ursinha> jibel, hello :)
16:29:40 <Ursinha> does anyone have anything for them?
16:29:55 <Ursinha> if not, I'll move on..
16:30:09 <Ursinha> okay
16:30:11 <Ursinha> #topic Weekly Updates & Questions for the Kernel Team (smb)
16:30:13 * smb leaps to attention. Nothing in particular to bring up. Anything anyone wants to bring up which I might be unaware of?
16:30:40 <Ursinha> anyone?
16:30:53 <Ursinha> thanks smb :)
16:31:02 <smb> welcome
16:31:13 <Ursinha> moving on
16:31:14 <Ursinha> #topic Weekly Updates & Questions regarding Ubuntu ARM Server (rbasak)
16:31:20 <rbasak> Nothing from me. Any questions?
16:31:45 <arosales> quesiton here
16:32:03 <arosales> rbasak: Do you have insights into the java direction on ARM
16:32:19 <arosales> specifically the work around openjdk?
16:32:54 <rbasak> I don't think I'm sufficiently expert in this area to answer. I think jamespage is more familiar with recent developments with openjdk
16:33:15 <arosales> rbasak: ok, thanks. I follow up with jamespage on his return
16:33:18 <arosales> ..
16:33:29 <Ursinha> thanks rbasak and arosales
16:33:34 <Ursinha> moving on
16:33:45 <Ursinha> #topic Open Discussion
16:33:52 <Ursinha> go crazy
16:34:15 <Ursinha> you are all too quiet today :)
16:34:25 <Daviey> Gah, i missed talking to smb... Must be the leap second throwing me out of sync
16:34:34 <Ursinha> poor DavidLevin
16:34:38 <Ursinha> or Daviey
16:34:46 <Ursinha> (sorry DavidLevin :))
16:34:49 <smb> Daviey, leap a while... leap forever... :-P
16:34:56 <Ursinha> go ahead Daviey
16:35:01 <zul> Daviey: like quantum leap?
16:35:12 <Daviey> Ursinha: Nah, nothing meeting worthy actaully
16:35:24 <Ursinha> okay then
16:35:37 <DavidLevin> Ursinha, ;)
16:35:40 <jimbaker> if i'm not mistaken, there's a reasonable release of openjdk for java 7 on arm now
16:35:40 <Ursinha> moving on :P
16:36:04 <Ursinha> arosales, ^
16:36:18 <jimbaker> however, i have not actually played with arm server, so this is second hand knowledge
16:36:30 <arosales> jimbaker: thanks, yes there is some good progress there
16:37:18 <Ursinha> thanks jimbaker
16:37:26 <Ursinha> moving on
16:37:27 <Ursinha> #topic Announce next meeting date and time
16:37:41 <jimbaker> see for example, http://blogs.arm.com/software-enablement/660-oracles-java-se-server-compiler-now-on-arm/
16:37:49 <Ursinha> next in list is jamespage, is that ok?
16:37:49 <Daviey> Now +7hrs -37mins
16:37:53 <Daviey> Tanks Ursinha !
16:38:12 <rbasak> hrs?
16:38:31 <Ursinha> didn't get it either
16:38:31 <Daviey> err, what am i thinking!
16:38:34 <arosales> thanks Ursinha for chairing
16:38:43 <Daviey> This is my they don't let me announce the time and date.
16:39:00 <Daviey> That leap second has driven me crazy with timezone handling
16:39:12 <Ursinha> haha
16:39:19 <Ursinha> thanks guys for joining
16:39:42 <Ursinha> next meeting, 16utc next week, jamespage is the chair
16:39:58 <Ursinha> that is all
16:40:00 <Ursinha> #endmeeting