#title #ubuntu-meeting Meeting Meeting started by skaet at 15:00:47 UTC. The full logs are available at http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2012/ubuntu-meeting.2012-06-29-15.00.log.html . == Meeting summary == ''LINK:'' https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ReleaseTeam/Meeting/2012-06-29 (skaet, 15:01:10) ''LINK:'' https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-release/2012-June/001462.html -hw cert: brendand (skaet, 15:01:57) ''LINK:'' https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-release/2012-June/001465.html- security: mdeslaurs (skaet, 15:01:59) ''LINK:'' https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-release/2012-June/001467.html - desktop: seb128 (skaet, 15:02:01) ''LINK:'' https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-release/2012-June/001468.html - kernel: ogasawara (skaet, 15:02:03) ''LINK:'' https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-release/2012-June/001469.html - community testing: balloons (skaet, 15:02:07) ''LINK:'' https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-release/2012-June/001471.html - lubuntu: gilir (skaet, 15:02:12) ''LINK:'' https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-release/2012-June/001472.html - server: arosales (skaet, 15:02:14) *Questions and Comments. ''LINK:'' https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-release/2012-June/001473.html - foundations: ogra (ogra_, 15:05:54) Meeting ended at 15:34:03 UTC. == Votes == == Action items == * (none) == People present (lines said) == * skaet (77) * seb128 (34) * ogra_ (21) * brendand (6) * popey (4) * stgraber (3) * meetingology (3) * highvoltage (1) * mdeslaur (1) * ubottu (1) * ScottK (1) == Full Log == 15:00:47 #startmeeting 15:00:47 Meeting started Fri Jun 29 15:00:47 2012 UTC. The chair is skaet. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology. 15:00:47 15:00:47 Available commands: #accept #accepted #action #agree #agreed #chair #commands #endmeeting #endvote #halp #help #idea #info #link #lurk #meetingname #meetingtopic #nick #progress #rejected #replay #restrictlogs #save #startmeeting #subtopic #topic #unchair #undo #unlurk #vote #voters #votesrequired 15:01:10 Agenda (and minute location): 15:01:10 https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ReleaseTeam/Meeting/2012-06-29 15:01:10 . 15:01:10 Upcoming dates: 15:01:10 2012/07/05 - DebianImportFreeze 15:01:10 2012/07/23 - Alpha 3 image candidates start 15:01:12 2012/07/26 - Alpha 3 15:01:14 . 15:01:16 Work Items: 15:01:18 2012/06/29 - 2782 (was 2926 last week): BEHIND trendline for this point. 15:01:20 Please help get us back where we should be by making sure https://launchpad.net/~/+upcomingwork is up to date for your tasks. 15:01:23 . 15:01:25 Bugs: 15:01:27 Quantal: http://reports.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-q-tracking-bug-tasks.html 15:01:29 12.04.1:http://status.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/kernel-bugs/reports/rls-p-tracking-bugs.html 15:01:31 . 15:01:33 A2 Testing Report: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/QATeam/ReleaseReports/QuantalAlpha2TestReport 15:01:37 Thank you to all the testers, and jibel for coordinating, and another excellent job in highlighting the key issues in a timely fashion. :) 15:01:40 . 15:01:42 Pending action items: 15:01:44 [skaet] - SRU team vanguards: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/StableReleaseUpdates/#Publishing - DONE 15:01:46 [seb128] - summarize on ubuntu-release mail list what desktop wants for 12.04.1 (201206 15:15:33:13) - ? 15:01:49 [skaet] - start off a blueprint for -r release for people to record ideas and thoughts on logical steps for making progress to the long term goal. (skaet, 20120622 16:25:27) - https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/other-r-future-release-brainstorming - DONE 15:01:53 . 15:01:55 Weekly Status Received: 15:01:57 https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-release/2012-June/001462.html -hw cert: brendand 15:01:59 https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-release/2012-June/001465.html- security: mdeslaurs 15:02:01 https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-release/2012-June/001467.html - desktop: seb128 15:02:03 https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-release/2012-June/001468.html - kernel: ogasawara 15:02:07 https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-release/2012-June/001469.html - community testing: balloons 15:02:10 ** 2100 UTC - due time ^ Thank you to those who submitted on time ** 15:02:12 https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-release/2012-June/001471.html - lubuntu: gilir 15:02:14 https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-release/2012-June/001472.html - server: arosales 15:02:16 ** Reminder, please get your team's summary in by 2100 UTC, so there's time to prep, take care of issues on the mail list, and keep the meeting short. 15:02:19 .. 15:03:04 #topic Questions and Comments. 15:03:29 hiya, any other team minutes available that I missed in my last pass? 15:03:54 hey 15:03:57 Reminder: DebianImportFreeze is next Thursday 7/5, after that all imports will need to be explicit. 15:04:13 Thank you to stgraber and balloons for the updates to the iso tracker, new features rolled out nice and smooth for A2 from my perspective. :) 15:04:16 sorry I assumed we had no meeting after alpha2 (as we didn't have one after a1 IIRC) ... anyway I'm here ;-) 15:04:46 Debian's freeze for Wheezy release is tomorrow, so the amount of new stuff from Debian should start to drop off in any case. 15:04:50 thanks seb128, with holidays coming up, and A2 being so smooth (overall), seemed prudent to have one before DebianImportFreeze 15:05:01 yeah, makes sense ;-) 15:05:15 General request: Leads please work through your alpha 2 work items, and for those items not accomplished, please retarget or postpone. Burn downs are showing us fallling behind where we wanted to be. 15:05:32 .. 15:05:43 anyone else have comments/questions before I start into my list? 15:05:54 https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-release/2012-June/001473.html - foundations: ogra 15:06:00 (sorry !) 15:06:08 thanks ogra_ :) 15:06:51 seb128, any update on the pending action item to post what desktop looks to land for 12.04.1? (did I miss it on the ubuntu-release list?) 15:08:22 sorry 15:08:48 skaet, I mentioned it last week in reply to my weekly report email 15:09:11 "I also had an action item to check what images the desktop team wants to support for the LTS .1 release: we will keep doing what we did for previous LTSes, and support the same set of images that for the release, including the DVD ones. " 15:09:19 skaet, ^ 15:09:31 thanks seb128. I'll mark it done then. :) 15:09:35 thanks 15:09:52 .. 15:09:57 brendand, do you have a prioritized list (ie. most to least important) of the bugs cert wants fixed for 12.04.1? is bug 1013843 the key blocker? 15:09:59 Launchpad bug 1013843 in casper (Ubuntu Quantal) "resolv.conf empty when doing PXE installations" [High,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1013843 15:10:27 skaet, as far as i know that's only in quantal 15:10:57 brendand, ok. :) 15:11:00 skaet, as for prioritization, i will need to discuss with ara. when would you like a list by - and how many bugs? 5? 10? 15:11:27 skaet, or all of them, just prioritized? 15:11:33 brendand, top 5 most impact to fix would be good, or a list in descending order of inpact, so we can get some focus. 15:12:03 possible to mail something out to ubuntu-release mail list by next week? 15:12:37 skaet, asap 15:12:42 ~/win 12 15:13:11 :) ok, will add it to the actions. :) 15:13:25 .. 15:13:43 mdeslaurs, for those AA uploads, is there someone identified, or just waiting in queue? 15:13:49 skaet, about the 1013843 bug, i wanted to ask stgraber if he is blocked trying to reproduce it? 15:14:02 brendand: I'm not, just busy with other things 15:14:52 stgraber, ok. whatever resources you need to try and reproduce it, the guys in montreal can provide 15:15:37 ..? 15:15:49 brendand: I have a netboot setup at home so should be easy to reproduce locally (though the fixes I pushed in quantal were specifically to make it work ;)) 15:15:52 .. 15:16:31 mdeslaur, ^ (sorry about the typo on your nick) 15:16:57 skaet, tab completion is handy ;-) 15:17:26 yup. 15:17:42 skaet: jdstrand is identified, or he may sponsor sbeattie 15:18:37 coolio, just wanted to make sure wasn't going to linger over holidays/debconf/etc. :) 15:18:47 .. 15:19:24 seb128, does it make sense to ask balloons to get the new gtk's ally enablement tested by the community? Would be nice to get early feedback, and a chance to fix before we get to beta. 15:19:52 * skaet notes that balloons will need to be followed up by with email. 15:19:59 skaet, that would be great 15:20:16 skaet, balloons: check with TheMuso if you need details on what needs testing 15:20:44 skaet, balloons: a slightly more detailed email on the topic is on https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-desktop/2012-June/003868.html 15:21:19 seb128, ok, I'll put in a request and copy you and TheMuso on it. 15:21:29 thanks 15:21:34 .. 15:21:58 seb128, popey, when will the next unity, compiz drops land? 15:22:37 unity for quantal is being worked 15:22:42 next week if everything goes well 15:22:45 new compiz landed this week 15:22:47 oh hai, didnt realise there was a meeting right now 15:22:52 what seb128 says :) 15:23:12 we should have another compiz within 2 weeks with gsettings support (finger crossed) 15:23:15 quantal + nux should be testing monday, release tuesday 15:23:41 gsettings code is being worked, sam estimates to a good week of work so I count on 2 weeks for landing if that goes well 15:23:47 thanks seb128 15:23:47 we're still waiting for upstream to merge the gles patches for arm 15:23:54 (compiz that is) 15:24:05 ogra_, that will be after gsettings, don't count before a month 15:24:21 .. 15:24:22 current compiz is built with gles support, which will not work on arm 15:24:51 ogra_, right, well they have 2 compiz maintainers and work for 5, there is only so much they can get done at the time 15:24:51 (that doesnt matter much though since we have no working drivers for any arm platform yet, waiting for TI as usual) 15:25:08 gsettings is first then they will do gles 15:25:10 .. 15:25:30 thanks seb128, popey, ogra_ . ok, that helps with setting the expectations. 15:25:38 seb128, i didnt mean to blame anyone or so :) just wanted to throw it in the meeting so people are aware and dont complain that their pandas dont show bling ;) 15:26:00 ogra_, my panda doesn't show screen atm, let's talk after bling later :p 15:26:21 seb128, if there would have been dailies today, these would have a fix for that ;) 15:26:24 .. 15:26:26 ogra_, yeah glad you brought it up, sounds like its going to get close to feature freeze then before its all working, which is a bit worrying. 15:26:48 .. 15:27:10 skaet, well, as i understand it, upstream expects that *all* plugins are ported to GLES before accepting the patch 15:27:26 linaros patch only ports the ones we use in ubuntu 15:27:32 .. 15:27:52 ogra_, yeah that could indeed make things *interesting* :P 15:27:56 right 15:28:03 that's being sorted, they will not block on that 15:28:07 still there is a bit of work needed 15:28:10 not much we can do about it though 15:28:19 and they go asked to finish gsettings first since blocks desktop updates 15:28:25 i.e part of GNOME is blocked on it 15:28:34 and that work is overdue (it was meant to land in oneiric) 15:28:40 well, as long as there is a chance it makes FF 15:28:45 that should be fine 15:29:00 if not, it would be good to know about that early enough so we can think of alternatives 15:29:06 as said it should be one extra week or max 2 to clear the gsettings stuff and the important bug fixes they are on 15:29:17 ok, that sounds fine 15:29:19 then it's gles, which hopefully with take 1 or 2 weeks 15:29:32 I will keep you guys updated 15:29:34 .. 15:29:42 ogra_, on the subject of worrying, who has the lead for java on arm? is there a good pointer to the plan for that part? (me may have missed it in her last pass) 15:29:44 thx 15:29:46 .. 15:30:11 skaet, hmm, usually thats doko, not sure, probably infinity is on it too nowadays 15:30:43 i can collect info on that for next week 15:31:03 ogra_, that would be appreciated. :) Thanks! 15:31:35 .. 15:31:59 * skaet looks around to see if anyone else has questions? 15:33:27 looks like that's it then for this week. 15:33:39 Next week I'll be on vacation, and pgraner will be hosting the meeting. 15:34:00 Thanks ogra_, arosales, mdeslaur, seb128, brendand, popey, stgraber, ScottK 15:34:03 #endmeeting Generated by MeetBot 0.1.5 (http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology)