12:04:54 <head_victim> #startmeeting 12:04:54 <meetingology> Meeting started Wed Jun 27 12:04:54 2012 UTC. The chair is head_victim. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology. 12:04:54 <meetingology> 12:04:54 <meetingology> Available commands: #accept #accepted #action #agree #agreed #chair #commands #endmeeting #endvote #halp #help #idea #info #link #lurk #meetingname #meetingtopic #nick #progress #rejected #replay #restrictlogs #save #startmeeting #subtopic #topic #unchair #undo #unlurk #vote #voters #votesrequired 12:05:06 <IdleOne> Good morning o/ 12:05:19 <e-jat> Hi 12:05:25 <MohamedAlaa98> Good morning :) 12:05:36 <head_victim> #chairs micahg cjohnston e-jat IdleOne 12:05:40 <jaddi27> Good evening from Australia 12:05:44 <head_victim> #chair micahg cjohnston e-jat IdleOne 12:05:44 <meetingology> Current chairs: IdleOne cjohnston e-jat head_victim micahg 12:07:17 <head_victim> #voters IdleOne cjohnston e-jat head_victim micahg Pendulum cyphermox 12:07:17 <meetingology> Warning: Nick not in channel: e-jat 12:07:17 <meetingology> Current voters: IdleOne Pendulum cjohnston cyphermox e-jat head_victim micahg 12:08:12 <head_victim> So, please bear with us, we have a few new board members so it may take a little longer than normal but we'll get there :) 12:09:08 <e-jat> :) 12:10:00 <head_victim> Ok 12:10:24 <head_victim> #meetingtopic 1200 UTC Membership Board Meeting 12:10:53 <head_victim> #link https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Membership/Boards#A12:00 12:11:47 <head_victim> #topic gipsypyaesone - Membership Application 12:12:46 <head_victim> Hello and welcome to the Ubuntu Membership Review Board meeting for 27/06/2012. The wiki page for the Review Boards are available here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Membership/Boards 12:12:46 <head_victim> We will attempt to get through all of the applicants that have added themselves to that list before today's meeting. If we are unable to make it through the entire list due to time constraints, then at the next meeting we will pick up where we left off. 12:12:47 <head_victim> The format for the meeting is as follows: We will go through the list of applicants one by one, by date of application (FIFO). 12:12:50 <head_victim> Each applicant should introduce themselves (1-5 sentences) and provide links to their Ubuntu Wiki page. After the introduction the members of the Membership Review Board will review the pages and, if needed, ask the applicant further questions. 12:12:54 <head_victim> During this time it is encouraged for other members of the community to show their support for the applicant. Do not be alarmed if the members of the Membership Review Board are quiet during this time; they are most likely reading wiki/launchpad/forum/other pages and deciding how they are going to vote. 12:12:58 <head_victim> When the board is ready to vote, they will publicly vote in the channel with either +1, 0, or -1 (for membership, abstain, and against membership, respectively). If the sum of those numbers is positive, then the applicant is now an official Ubuntu member! (feel free congratulate them!) 12:13:02 <head_victim> Now, with any further ado, lets get started with the first applicant... 12:13:15 <head_victim> So it doesn't appear gypsyaesone is here, we might move along to the second applicant. 12:14:05 <head_victim> #topic jaddi27 - Joel Addison's Membership Application 12:14:35 <jaddi27> Hello. My name is Joel Addison. I am a software engineering student from Brisbane, Australia, who is very interested in Ubuntu and open source software. I have been a member of the Ubuntu Australian Team for several years now, and have helped out with various activities 12:14:37 <head_victim> Joel, can you please introduce yourself to the board while we read over your application 12:15:31 <jaddi27> My main contribution has been through translations, where I have completed around 50,000 strings for en_AU over the past few months along with sagaci 12:16:09 <head_victim> As one of the people one the page as a testimonial I will say jaddi27 has been one of the more active members in the loco 12:16:19 <cjohnston> just 50,000? ;-) Thats about 50,000 more than me. heh 12:16:33 <cjohnston> awesome work on translations 12:16:34 <head_victim> cjohnston: another loco member did over 200k from memory ;) 12:16:39 <cjohnston> wow 12:16:40 <jaddi27> It is still about 150,000 less than sagaci 12:17:26 <IdleOne> jaddi27: Why haven't you done more translation? :) 12:17:33 <head_victim> jaddi27: so what are you plans for the next 6 months with regards to your Ubuntu work. 12:17:48 <IdleOne> ignore my question it was silly anyway 12:17:52 <jaddi27> IdleOne, I would have done a few more if Uni had not crept up on me over the past few weeks 12:18:27 <jaddi27> Over the next 6 months I hope to continue with the translations, to keep the Q-series mostly up to date as the translations come in 12:18:50 <jaddi27> I also plan to keep helping out in the loco, with chairing meetings and moderating the social media pages 12:18:50 <Pendulum> jaddi27: You mention in your future goals that you'd like to get involved in bug fixing. Is this something you're already working on or something you're looking to start doing? 12:19:31 <jaddi27> I am looking to start doing more program development and bug fixing now that I am more confident in my ability to use the languages often used in Ubuntu applications 12:20:02 <jaddi27> I was thinking of entering the competition being run at the moment, but unfortunately did not have enough time with Uni and work 12:20:57 <jaddi27> I would like to look at creating a calendar and todo app that can be integrated with the calendar in the time menu 12:21:23 <head_victim> Ok, anymore questions? 12:21:28 <IdleOne> I have to get going folks. Congrats to all the new members in advance. For the record I am +1 for jaddi27 to be an Ubuntu member.. 12:21:33 <cyphermox> jaddi27: feel free to ask me questui 12:21:39 <head_victim> #vote Joel Addison's Ubuntu Membership Application 12:21:39 <meetingology> Please vote on: Joel Addison's Ubuntu Membership Application 12:21:39 <meetingology> Public votes can be registered by saying +1, +0 or -1 in channel, (private votes don't work yet, but when they do it will be by messaging the channel followed by +1/-1/+0 to me) 12:21:40 <cyphermox> question if you get to working on that 12:21:44 <IdleOne> +1 12:21:44 <meetingology> +1 received from IdleOne 12:21:44 <cjohnston> +1 12:21:44 <meetingology> +1 received from cjohnston 12:21:47 <cyphermox> +1 12:21:47 <meetingology> +1 received from cyphermox 12:21:52 <ejat> +1 12:21:56 <Pendulum> +1 12:21:56 <meetingology> +1 received from Pendulum 12:22:00 <head_victim> +1 keep up the good work in the loco and I look forward to some bug squashing. 12:22:00 <meetingology> +1 keep up the good work in the loco and I look forward to some bug squashing. received from head_victim 12:22:04 <jaddi27> cyphermox, Ok. I will write a note to remember 12:22:40 <micahg> +1 12:22:40 <meetingology> +1 received from micahg 12:23:16 <head_victim> #endvote 12:23:16 <meetingology> Voting ended on: Joel Addison's Ubuntu Membership Application 12:23:16 <meetingology> Votes for:6 Votes against:0 Abstentions:0 12:23:16 <meetingology> Motion carried 12:23:27 <sagaci> gg 12:23:34 <head_victim> Congratulations jaddi27 you are now a Ubuntu Member :) 12:23:42 <Pendulum> jaddi27: Congrats and welcome! 12:23:42 <e-jat> congratulation jaddi27 12:23:57 <jaddi27> Thank you very much! 12:24:03 <MohamedAlaa98> congratulationa jaddi27 :) 12:24:08 <e-jat> keep up to the good work 12:24:16 <MohamedAlaa98> *congratulations 12:24:24 <head_victim> #topic jamesh - James Henstridge's Membership Application 12:24:40 <jamesh> Hi. My name is James Henstridge, and my wiki page is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/JamesHenstridge 12:25:36 <jamesh> I've been working for Canonical since 2004, on various things: I did a bit of desktop work back in the first release, then worked on Launchpad, and now work on Ubuntu One 12:26:19 <head_victim> Gday jamesh, very strong application but no testimonials. Is there anyone coming along in person to support? 12:27:04 <jamesh> head_victim: I asked a few of my colleagues about testimonials, but it doesn't look like they got round to adding them :( 12:27:08 <cjohnston> jamesh has done alot of great work on things that I use on a regular basis when it comes to sites like summit.ubuntu.com and loco.ubuntu.com... btw, jamesh django-openid-auth 0.4 was uploaded to Debian this morning! 12:27:33 <jamesh> cjohnston: cool! 12:28:22 <jamesh> outside of my work responsibilities, I've also been answering questions on the Ask Ubuntu site in my spare time, and do some other software development (some of which is packaged in Ubuntu) 12:29:05 <jamesh> I've been teaching myself Debian packaging too, so plan to continue with that and maybe get a few of my other small projects in a state where they could be added to Ubuntu 12:29:22 <e-jat> jamesh : aw3s0m3 12:31:35 <head_victim> jamesh: while we're reading through pages, have you thought about getting involved in the loco at all? 12:32:34 <jamesh> head_victim: I haven't really investigated it much. I do attend PLUG meetings when I've got time, but that isn't strictly Ubuntu related 12:33:03 <head_victim> jamesh: that's not a problem, we're not that exclusive :) I'm trying to get HUMBUG to join up and do things as well. 12:33:15 <jamesh> I did give a talk there about some of the stuff we'd been doing in U1 last year 12:33:55 <head_victim> Nice work, if you ever need materials for events give me a ping (I'm the team contact ;) ) and we can try to organise stuff to make it more fun. 12:34:16 <jamesh> head_victim: I have mentioned to them that it might be worth trying to form some kind of affiliation though: there are a fair number of Ubuntu and Debian users there to help people 12:34:47 <head_victim> jamesh: sounds good, if ever there are any events sing out and I can shoot you over some CDs, banners, etc. 12:35:41 <jamesh> okay 12:38:00 <head_victim> jamesh: basically your application is thorough and well documented, but we really do like to see some sort of testimonial on the wiki or in the meeting 12:40:28 <head_victim> jamesh: if we put it off until the next meeting in 2 weeks do you think you could have some people add a note or email the mailing list with a bit of support? 12:41:45 <jamesh> head_victim: I suppose so. But is this a hard and fast procedural thing, or do you think the application isn't sufficient? 12:42:56 <head_victim> It's more that it's a case of I can see what you've done but as someone in a different part of the community I dont' know what's involved in it 12:43:13 <head_victim> So testimonials are a good way to show that others in your area of the community concur. 12:43:38 <head_victim> As an example, I have no idea if 302 answers on Ask Ubuntu is good, I think it is but really, I've used that page twice so can't be sure. 12:45:05 <jamesh> okay. I can certainly chase up the people I asked again. It wasn't clear that it was a hard and fast requirement. I did include links to things like the bugzilla->LP migration that I hoped would be evidence of what I have done 12:46:24 <Pendulum> jamesh: Part of it is that Ubuntu Membership is a community recognition. Testimonials help us see how you are part of the community/that others see you that way. 12:47:01 <jamesh> Pendulum: okay. 12:50:27 <head_victim> jamesh: ok so sorry to be a pain if we can get a few testimonials we'd probably all feel a lot more comfortable. We'll also work on making the documentation more clear to explain the logic behind it. 12:50:59 <jamesh> head_victim: I just asked aquarius if he could give a short testimonial now, if that's okay 12:51:01 <aquarius> hey, I'm happy to give a testimonal for jamesh (am I butting in?) 12:51:31 <head_victim> aquarius: go for it 12:51:41 <aquarius> James is excellent. :) 12:51:56 <head_victim> aquarius: and you've worked with him on anything in particular or day to day? 12:52:03 <aquarius> He's part of my team at Canonical, working on Ubuntu One 12:52:31 <aquarius> but I've also seen and used his contributions to free software outside our working lives 12:53:16 <aquarius> the PyGTK bindings were particularly useful! 12:53:18 <head_victim> aquarius: so his contributions to the team and Ubuntu would meet the significant and sustained requirement for membership in your opinion? 12:53:53 <aquarius> Absolutely, yes, in my opinion jamesh's contributions are both significant and sustained, and he qualifies for Ubuntu membership. 12:54:01 <head_victim> aquarius: thanks so much for your help :) 12:54:06 <aquarius> No problem. :) 12:54:42 <e-jat> tq aquarius for your opinion and testimonial :) 12:54:44 <cjohnston> thanks aquarius 12:55:03 <dholbach> I'd echo aquarius' statement: James has been around since almost forever in the Ubuntu project, working on Launchpad, Ubuntu One and small pieces all over the place and he has always been super-helpful and is generally just a great guy! :) 12:55:14 <head_victim> dholbach: greatly appreciate your input 12:55:18 <dholbach> (sorry for jumping in here, but I had no idea jamesh was up for membership :-)) 12:55:25 <cyphermox> let's vote :) 12:55:27 <Pendulum> aquarius, dholbach: thanks for speaking up! 12:55:45 <e-jat> http://askubuntu.com/users/12469/james-henstridge can see jamesh contribution … 12:55:47 <jamesh> thanks aquarius, dholbach! 12:55:51 <head_victim> dholbach: please do, we were umming and arring as there were no testimonials now we have 3 so I think we can probably get this going now 12:56:02 <dholbach> :-) 12:56:14 <head_victim> #vote James Henstridge's Ubuntu Membership Application 12:56:14 <meetingology> Please vote on: James Henstridge's Ubuntu Membership Application 12:56:14 <meetingology> Public votes can be registered by saying +1, +0 or -1 in channel, (private votes don't work yet, but when they do it will be by messaging the channel followed by +1/-1/+0 to me) 12:56:18 <cjohnston> +1 12:56:18 <meetingology> +1 received from cjohnston 12:56:21 <Pendulum> +1 12:56:21 <meetingology> +1 received from Pendulum 12:56:22 <cyphermox> +1 12:56:22 <meetingology> +1 received from cyphermox 12:56:25 <e-jat> +1 12:56:25 <meetingology> +1 received from e-jat 12:56:31 <head_victim> +1 Thorough application, nice work and good to see some support come through 12:56:31 <meetingology> +1 Thorough application, nice work and good to see some support come through received from head_victim 12:56:32 <penreturns> +1 12:57:11 * head_victim prods micahg 12:57:14 <micahg> +1 good testimonials, nice work over the life of Ubuntu 12:57:14 <meetingology> +1 good testimonials, nice work over the life of Ubuntu received from micahg 12:57:20 <head_victim> #endvote 12:57:20 <meetingology> Voting ended on: James Henstridge's Ubuntu Membership Application 12:57:20 <meetingology> Votes for:6 Votes against:0 Abstentions:0 12:57:20 <meetingology> Motion carried 12:57:27 <e-jat> congratulation jamesh 12:57:28 <jamesh> thanks. 12:57:41 <head_victim> Congratulations jamesh sorry it was a little painful for a while there 12:57:43 <Pendulum> jamesh: congrats! 12:57:52 <head_victim> Please drop by the loco channel someday or join in the mailing list :) 12:58:35 <aquarius> woo jamesh! 12:58:45 <head_victim> dholbach, aquarius thanks for dropping in when you did :) 12:58:55 <dholbach> congratulations! 12:58:57 <dholbach> :) 13:00:51 <head_victim> #topic MohamedAlaa98 Mohamed Alaa's Ubuntu Membership Application 13:01:01 <head_victim> MohamedAlaa98: pelase introduce yourself while we read the application 13:01:06 <MohamedAlaa98> Hi. My wiki page is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MohamedAlaa 13:01:06 <MohamedAlaa98> and My launchpad profile is https://launchpad.net/~m-alaa8 13:01:22 <MohamedAlaa98> My name is Mohamed Alaa, Egyptinan, 13 YO, Python programmer, Ubuntu translator, Bug triager, Community contributer, ubuntu-eg support squad, I give support on ubuntu-eg facebook group and I'm trying hard to spread ubuntu everywhere. 13:02:00 <MohamedAlaa98> Outside community, i'm currently working on a Python project named indicator-prayer-times, as well as I have learned packaging python projects through launchpad nest-packaging. 13:02:09 <head_victim> Well at 13 I wouldn't have even been able to work out how to sign the CoC so that's a good start 13:02:22 <MohamedAlaa98> thanks :) 13:02:37 <MohamedAlaa98> I respect and follow free software philosophy and I advocate open-source and free software whenever possible. 13:02:53 <thelinuxer> hi I am here to testify for him, so please tell me when it's time to do so :) 13:03:27 <head_victim> thelinuxer: so young MohamedAlaa98 is fairly active in the loco? 13:03:34 <thelinuxer> yes he is 13:03:43 <thelinuxer> I am actually amazed by his level of activity 13:03:52 <thelinuxer> his answers and trouble shooting skills 13:03:57 <e-jat> thelinuxer : im amaze too :) 13:04:04 <head_victim> And it's been sustained for a while? 13:04:11 <thelinuxer> and actually I think a good number of our group members ask him directly for help 13:04:21 <thelinuxer> yes it's been sustained 13:04:47 <thelinuxer> he also showed he's a good team player by working on a development project with another team member 13:05:00 <thelinuxer> I really think he's talented and dedicated and I expect a lot from him in the future if he's encouraged to go to the right direction. 13:05:23 <thelinuxer> I am done :) 13:05:27 <head_victim> thelinuxer: It's good to see the -eg team taking him in and giving him direction :) 13:05:30 <e-jat> thanks thelinuxer 13:05:39 <MohamedAlaa98> thelinuxer: thank you for your support :) 13:05:42 <thelinuxer> head_victim: we are trying :) 13:05:47 <thelinuxer> e-jat: yw :) 13:05:49 <thelinuxer> MohamedAlaa98: yw :) 13:06:12 <Pendulum> MohamedAlaa98: what do you do outside of your Ubuntu work? 13:06:37 <MohamedAlaa98> i'm currently working on a Python project named indicator-prayer-times 13:07:06 <MohamedAlaa98> and now i'm learning bug fixing 13:07:19 <Pendulum> MohamedAlaa98: Sorry for not being clear; I meant, when you're not on the computer? 13:07:32 <cyphermox> MohamedAlaa98: on that subject, it would be very cool to see this shipping in Ubuntu soon; since it's in a PPA already and probably working fairly well, that would be a good step forward :) 13:07:56 <MohamedAlaa98> ah, I play football, i love to draw 13:07:58 <thelinuxer> cyphermox: and I am actually using his application right now 13:08:28 <MohamedAlaa98> cyphermox: I hope that :) 13:08:32 * e-jat also looking the package will be in ubuntu universe 13:09:33 <head_victim> #vote Mohamed Alaa's Ubuntu Membership Application 13:09:33 <meetingology> Please vote on: Mohamed Alaa's Ubuntu Membership Application 13:09:33 <meetingology> Public votes can be registered by saying +1, +0 or -1 in channel, (private votes don't work yet, but when they do it will be by messaging the channel followed by +1/-1/+0 to me) 13:10:02 <e-jat> +1 good work and contributions .. 13:10:02 <meetingology> +1 good work and contributions .. received from e-jat 13:10:05 <Pendulum> +1 keep up the good work! 13:10:05 <meetingology> +1 keep up the good work! received from Pendulum 13:10:07 <cyphermox> +1 13:10:07 <meetingology> +1 received from cyphermox 13:10:11 <cjohnston> +1 13:10:11 <meetingology> +1 received from cjohnston 13:10:14 <head_victim> +1 good to see your focus and drive being exerted in guided manners. It's a good sign of both the loco and yourself. 13:10:14 <meetingology> +1 good to see your focus and drive being exerted in guided manners. It's a good sign of both the loco and yourself. received from head_victim 13:10:26 <micahg> +1 13:10:26 <meetingology> +1 received from micahg 13:10:59 <head_victim> #endvote 13:10:59 <meetingology> Voting ended on: Mohamed Alaa's Ubuntu Membership Application 13:10:59 <meetingology> Votes for:6 Votes against:0 Abstentions:0 13:10:59 <meetingology> Motion carried 13:11:08 <e-jat> congrate MohamedAlaa98 13:11:12 <thelinuxer> congrats MohamedAlaa98 :) 13:11:16 <head_victim> Congratulations MohamedAlaa98 :) 13:11:25 <Pendulum> MohamedAlaa98: congrats and welcome! 13:11:25 <MohamedAlaa98> e-jat Pendulum cyphermox cjohnston head_victim Thank you all :) 13:11:40 <MohamedAlaa98> Pendulum: thank you :) 13:11:56 <e-jat> yw 13:12:08 <MohamedAlaa98> thank you all :) 13:12:56 <MohamedAlaa98> thank you all for your support :) 13:13:20 <e-jat> keep up the good work ! 13:13:36 <MohamedAlaa98> e-jat: Sure! 13:13:38 <head_victim> Thanks everyone to showing, it's good to see the first 1200 UTC board meeting nearly stayed within time ;) 13:14:08 <e-jat> thanks to all board members 13:14:26 <jamesh> thanks everyone! 13:16:48 <head_victim> #endmeeting