16:00:52 <arosales> #startmeeting ubuntu-server-team 16:00:52 <meetingology> Meeting started Tue Jun 12 16:00:52 2012 UTC. The chair is arosales. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology. 16:00:52 <meetingology> 16:00:52 <meetingology> Available commands: #accept #accepted #action #agree #agreed #chair #commands #endmeeting #endvote #halp #help #idea #info #link #lurk #meetingname #meetingtopic #nick #progress #rejected #replay #restrictlogs #save #startmeeting #subtopic #topic #unchair #undo #unlurk #vote #voters #votesrequired 16:01:09 <arosales> #topic Review ACTION points from previous meeting 16:01:30 <arosales> rbasak: how is the migration to ubuntuserver.org going? 16:02:02 <rbasak> I had assumed that was a joke action. I have no knowledge of ubuntuserver.org or anything surrounding it whatsoever. 16:02:40 <arosales> I think that was in reference to our server team blog, correct 16:02:53 <smoser> hm.. funny. it probably was a joke action and then got carried over too. 16:03:02 <smoser> nice. for shame on whoever chaired last week. 16:03:03 <arosales> If so, are there any objections about where the blog current lives? 16:03:22 <rbasak> I would just like to see the typo fixed, which is how I ended up with the joke action 16:03:37 <m_3> rbasak: I think you were dissing the site and got volunteered by the meeting chair :) 16:03:53 <arosales> rbasak: where is that typo again? 16:03:57 <rbasak> In the headline 16:03:59 <rbasak> peices 16:04:39 <arosales> ah ok, here https://ubuntuserver.wordpress.com/ 16:04:59 <arosales> rbasak: did you want to follow up with jamespage and see who has access and get that corrected? 16:05:07 <arosales> rbask, if not I can. 16:05:34 <jamespage> arosales, rbasak: I think I might have access 16:05:36 <rbasak> I don't think it's worth me being involved. I know nothing about it, and am not sure what I can add 16:05:49 <rbasak> (apart from another cook for the broth) 16:05:58 <arosales> ok, I will follow up 16:05:58 <SpamapS> o/ 16:06:33 <arosales> #action arosales to correct "pieces" on ubuntu server blog 16:06:33 * meetingology arosales to correct "pieces" on ubuntu server blog 16:06:57 <arosales> smoser: did you have a chance to follow up with rbasak on bug 972077 16:07:00 <ubottu> Launchpad bug 972077 in apt (Ubuntu) "apt repository disk format has race conditions" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/972077 16:07:07 <smoser> rbasak, ping, re 972077 16:07:14 <smoser> (no, i didn't. but i will) 16:07:19 <arosales> ok thanks smoser 16:07:22 <arosales> #topic Precise Development 16:07:30 <arosales> bugs 16:07:31 <arosales> http://reports.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/ubuntu-server/release-bugs.html 16:07:45 <arosales> bug https://launchpad.net/bugs/974584 16:07:48 <ubottu> Launchpad bug 974584 in sysvinit (Ubuntu Quantal) "Semaphores cannot be created in lxc container" [High,Triaged] 16:08:17 <arosales> hallyn: were you taking a look at this one ^ 16:08:41 <arosales> bug 920197 16:08:43 <ubottu> Launchpad bug 920197 in python-webob (Ubuntu Quantal) "[SRU] webob last stable version 1.1.1 response header bug" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/920197 16:09:01 <arosales> zul: and jamespage this one queued up correctly for SRU in 12.04.1? 16:09:10 <jamespage> yep 16:09:13 <zul> yep 16:09:30 <arosales> cool thanks zul and jamespage 16:09:34 <arosales> bug 1001846 16:09:36 <ubottu> Launchpad bug 1001846 in cobbler (Ubuntu) "cobbler fails to install with error code 1" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1001846 16:09:36 <hallyn> hm, yeah, i dropped the fix for bug 974584 both in debian and ubuntu bugs, i don't have upload rights... 16:09:39 <ubottu> Launchpad bug 974584 in sysvinit (Ubuntu Quantal) "Semaphores cannot be created in lxc container" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/974584 16:10:00 <arosales> smoser: I think you were looking for more info on this one did airtonix give what was needed? 16:10:06 <hallyn> think the debian maintainer got sick of me 16:10:22 <arosales> hallyn: thanks for the update on 974584 16:10:36 * smoser re-looks 16:10:48 <arosales> hallyn: let us know if you don't get a response soon 16:10:56 <arosales> smoser: thanks 16:11:10 <arosales> bug https://launchpad.net/bugs/1009294 16:11:11 <smoser> hm... roaksoax is not around. i think there is enough info in that bug to move forward. 16:11:12 <ubottu> Launchpad bug 1009294 in Ubuntu Precise "Grub update breaks automated dist-upgrade scripts on AMI images" [High,Fix committed] 16:11:48 <arosales> smoser: looks like you had the todo here to get the fix commited. Is that now in the ubuntu cloud images? 16:12:35 <arosales> well catch roaksoax later on the cobbler bug 16:12:37 <arosales> bug 880339 16:12:38 <ubottu> Launchpad bug 880339 in mysql-5.5 (Ubuntu Precise) "AppArmor profile needs update" [Medium,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/880339 16:12:48 <smoser> someone should verify images are fixed for that cloud image bug 16:12:56 <smoser> and we need to refresh the 12.04 images. 16:13:04 <utlemming> smoser: I can do that... 16:13:05 <SpamapS> arosales: that one is a dupe of one that I'm working on 16:13:08 <arosales> jamespage: I think you were tracking bug 880339, is that now fixed? 16:13:15 <utlemming> smoser: and I plan on re-spinning precise ASAP 16:13:34 <SpamapS> arosales: I think we can drop it from the list, having been incomplete without a response for so long 16:13:35 <arosales> utlemming: could you help with verifying the fix smoser commited? 16:13:42 <utlemming> arosales: yup 16:13:54 <arosales> utlemming: thanks 16:13:59 <hallyn> arosales: i've got a note in my tickler to bug ubuntu-devel on thu if no action from maintainer 16:14:03 <jamespage> arosales, yes - SpamapS please could you ensure the bug that you are working on has a task for precise and is targetted to 12.04.1 16:14:22 <arosales> #action drop 880339 from bug list — no response 16:14:22 * meetingology drop 880339 from bug list — no response 16:14:34 <SpamapS> arosales: no action needed 16:14:35 <arosales> thanks SpamapS 16:14:43 <arosales> ah, ok :-) 16:14:45 <SpamapS> arosales: its already closed as Invalid actually 16:15:00 <SpamapS> there was a recent response.. that the user had screwed it up themselves 16:15:06 <arosales> I'll make sure to remove the subscription of ubuntu server team too 16:15:15 <Daviey> (sorry for speaking out of turn.. but the ubuntuserver.org blog transition wasn't a joke action.. it needs to happen, and rbask wanted to see it improved.) 16:15:27 <arosales> bug 993291 16:15:30 <ubottu> Launchpad bug 993291 in nis (Ubuntu Quantal) "[SRU] package nis 3.17-32ubuntu1.2 failed to install/upgrade: invoke-rc.d: unknown initscript, /etc/init.d/nis not found." [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/993291 16:16:11 <arosales> jamespage: looks like 993291 is tracking ok, correct? 16:16:21 <jamespage> arosales, yeah - I just picked that up 16:16:36 <arosales> jamespage: ok, thanks 16:16:42 <arosales> bug 1009553 16:16:43 <ubottu> Launchpad bug 1009553 in ubuntu-meta (Ubuntu) "jeos install oversized" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1009553 16:17:08 * jamespage is unsurprised 16:17:09 <arosales> jamespage: is this one a result of just droping -virtual kernel? 16:17:21 <arosales> any fix needed? 16:17:30 <jamespage> well its always close to the line - but yes that does seem to be the problem this release 16:17:54 <Daviey> Well, we should dive for extra opportunities to reduce it's size 16:18:00 <Daviey> but growth is expected. 16:18:04 <jamespage> I'm not sure TBH - I though the -virtual piece was going to be managed with additional module packages 16:18:15 <jamespage> which is the bulk of the oversize ATM 16:18:25 <jamespage> ~60MB I think 16:18:38 <jamespage> smb`, any opinion on ^^ 16:18:58 * smb` tries to catch up 16:19:17 <utlemming> jamespage: -virtual did indeed get dropped...and the kernel bloat in the AMI's is ~200M as a result 16:19:29 <jamespage> utlemming, sounds about right :-) 16:19:51 <arosales> in parallel for bug 920197, zul is that progressing as expected? 16:19:53 <ubottu> Launchpad bug 920197 in python-webob (Ubuntu Quantal) "[SRU] webob last stable version 1.1.1 response header bug" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/920197 16:20:11 <zul> arosales: no it needs some work still which im doing this afternoon 16:20:12 <smb`> utlemming, Why there would be a virtual meta which only consists of the smaller part 16:20:55 <utlemming> smb: is there a -virtual meta then? 16:21:05 <arosales> zul: ok thanks. Make sure to ping smoser or jamespage both on the 12.04.1 team if any assistance is needed. 16:21:15 <smb`> utlemming, linux-generic-meta -> linxu-image-generic + linux-image-extra-generic vs. linux-virtual-meta -> linux-image-generic 16:21:17 <zul> arosales: ack 16:21:36 <jamespage> smb`, utlemming: sounds like we are bloating out to much 16:21:49 <jamespage> arosales, please action smb, utlemming and I to discuss offline 16:21:58 <jamespage> well online but not in this meeting :-) 16:22:08 <utlemming> +1, we'll discuss this right after 16:22:11 <smb`> jamespage, At least that is the theory, we need to reality check but, yes put up an action 16:22:26 <arosales> #action jamespage and utlemming to discuss dropping -virtual kernel; re bug 1009553 16:22:26 * meetingology jamespage and utlemming to discuss dropping -virtual kernel; re bug 1009553 16:22:28 <ubottu> Launchpad bug 1009553 in ubuntu-meta (Ubuntu) "jeos install oversized" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1009553 16:22:36 <arosales> utlemming: jamespage and smb thanks 16:22:38 <jamespage> ta 16:22:43 <arosales> bug 1008537 16:22:46 <ubottu> Launchpad bug 1008537 in webkit (Ubuntu) "[FTBFS] Segmentation fault during tests" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1008537 16:22:56 <arosales> failed to build 16:23:28 <arosales> may be similar to bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/968308 16:23:30 <ubottu> Launchpad bug 968308 in openjdk-6 (Ubuntu) "Opening Eclipse workbench causes SIGSEGV" [Undecided,Confirmed] 16:23:39 <arosales> anyone interested in taking a look ? 16:24:10 <arosales> webkit and sphinx 16:24:49 <arosales> any interested folks? 16:25:22 <Daviey> i'll investigate it. 16:25:29 <arosales> Daviey: thanks 16:25:35 <arosales> moving onto blueprints http://status.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-quantal/ubuntu-server.html 16:25:58 <arosales> so we got some good work items documented, and dependencies liked to topics. 16:26:19 <arosales> please take a look if the dependency linkage looks correct for your blueprint 16:26:59 <arosales> also be sure to be implementing the blueprint spec into blueprints, jamespage do you have a link handy? 16:27:14 <jamespage> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BlueprintSpec 16:27:21 <arosales> jamespage: thanks 16:27:24 <jamespage> I do - thanks skaet! 16:27:39 <arosales> Any other items on blueprints? 16:28:09 * arosales forgot the two topics under quantal dev 16:28:14 <hallyn> hm, in https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/servercloud-q-server-iso-tests-review, i hope someone will explain to me what that action item assigned to me is 16:29:03 <arosales> jamespage: can you assist hallyn with work items on the ISO tesing? 16:29:11 <jamespage> hallyn, arosales: yep 16:29:21 <arosales> #action jamespage to follow up with hallyn on servercloud-q-server-iso-tests-review 16:29:21 * meetingology jamespage to follow up with hallyn on servercloud-q-server-iso-tests-review 16:29:24 <arosales> jamespage: thanks 16:29:26 <hallyn> thx 16:29:33 <arosales> #topic Ubuntu Server Team Events 16:29:59 <arosales> jim is at http://static.usenix.org/events/config10/index.html 16:30:01 <arosales> this week 16:30:17 <arosales> Velocity coming up in a couple of weeks. 16:30:23 <arosales> any other events? 16:30:36 <jamespage> I pretending to be hazmat at EuroPycon at the start of July 16:30:55 <arosales> cool, should be fun pretending to be hazmat :-) 16:30:57 <SpamapS> jamespage: I can't wait to see your beard :) 16:31:07 <arosales> #topic Weekly Updates & Questions for the QA Team (hggdh) 16:31:14 <arosales> hggdh: Any updates from QA? 16:31:17 <jamespage> SpamapS, I'm working on that :-) 16:32:01 <jamespage> hggdh, whats the current status on UTAH? 16:32:35 <arosales> perhaps hggdh isn't around at the moment. hggdh please feel free to comment if you return. 16:32:40 <arosales> #topic Weekly Updates & Questions for the Kernel Team (smb) 16:32:49 <arosales> smb`: how is the kernel looking? 16:33:01 <smb`> Mostly harmless... 16:33:19 <arosales> any questions for smb` ? 16:33:52 <arosales> thanks smb` 16:34:07 <arosales> #topic Weekly Updates & Questions regarding Ubuntu ARM Server (rbasak) 16:34:08 <rbasak> Calxeda's Highbank machine is now enabled in Quantal! We're planning a more detailed announcement on this soon, including installation instructions. MAAS support for this machine is now the next step. 16:34:11 <rbasak> Any questions for me? 16:34:24 <arosales> woot :-) 16:35:02 <arosales> no other questions for rbasak 16:35:11 <arosales> #topic Open Discussion 16:35:13 <utlemming> rbasak: so we need to get together 16:35:30 <utlemming> and get the armhf images using the Highbank then 16:36:19 <arosales> Daviey: I'll follow up with rbasak on seeing how we can get our server team blog moved to the correct home. I have an action items to correct the spelling so I'll investigate the move with rbask. 16:36:38 * rbasak just wanted the typo fixed! 16:36:46 <rbasak> That'll be <5 minutes for someone with access, right? 16:37:11 <Daviey> rbasak: we need to move it regardless 16:37:21 <Daviey> rbasak: You volunteered AIUI. 16:37:23 <rbasak> Where should it go? 16:37:33 <arosales> #action utlemming to follow up with rbasak on getting armhf images using highbank. 16:37:33 * meetingology utlemming to follow up with rbasak on getting armhf images using highbank. 16:37:36 * rbasak didn't volunteer. He just asked for the typo to be fixed. 16:37:37 <Daviey> rbasak: canonical hosted.. under that domain (owned by canonical) 16:37:51 <m_3> prob a good idea to talk to jcastro about it 16:38:00 <Daviey> rbasak: just need to raise an RT and get IS to setup wordpress under that domain. 16:38:07 <Daviey> and migrate content... can you take that? 16:38:18 <rbasak> Who has access to the current wordpress? 16:38:25 <rbasak> To migrate content I'll want access 16:38:29 <Daviey> rbasak: it's wordpress.org.. so all of us. 16:38:33 <Daviey> err, .com 16:38:42 <rbasak> Credentials? 16:38:47 <Daviey> rbasak: anyone on the team can have an account 16:38:59 <rbasak> Who has admin access? 16:39:00 <Daviey> rbasak: If you don't have one, i can add you. 16:39:13 <rbasak> Please 16:39:13 <Daviey> rbasak: lets take this offline. 16:39:36 <arosales> ok, thanks Daviey 16:39:45 <arosales> Any other topics to discuss? 16:40:14 <arosales> ok, thanks for everyone's time 16:40:15 <arosales> #topic Announce next meeting date and time 16:40:17 <jamespage> o/ 16:40:23 <jamespage> I had one actually 16:40:24 <arosales> Tuesday 2012-06-19 at 1600 UTC 16:40:28 <arosales> jamespage: go 16:40:54 <jamespage> OK - so smoser and I and representing the server team for the 12.04.1 release 16:41:13 <Daviey> so don't mess it up. 16:41:18 <jamespage> we have a regular catchup with all of the other 12.04.1 folk every 2 weeks 16:41:38 <jamespage> I spent some time updating zul's reports - http://people.canonical.com/~jamespage/server-sru/precise-sru.html 16:42:14 <jamespage> it you come across any bugs that should be SRU'ed please raise tasks for precise and target them to 12.04.1 - that way they will appear in the report 16:42:45 <jamespage> assigning someone or an upload being accepted into -proposed results in them moving to 'inflight' 16:43:10 <jamespage> I'd also like to have a regular slot in the meeting as well 16:43:23 <jamespage> not to review the entire report but to focus on any problematic bugs... 16:43:48 <jamespage> oh - http://people.canonical.com/~jamespage/server-sru/ contains series based reports for all supported releases as well 16:43:49 <arosales> perhaps after the quantal development section 16:43:58 <jamespage> that would make sense to me 16:44:14 <arosales> #action arosales to add 12.04.1 Development section 16:44:14 * meetingology arosales to add 12.04.1 Development section 16:44:57 <arosales> jamespage: and smoser thanks for rep'ing server in the 12.04.01 team 16:45:06 <arosales> any other items to discuss 16:45:49 <arosales> Next meeting is Tuesday 2012-06-19 at 1600 UTC. Thanks for attending, and bearing with me ;-) 16:45:55 <arosales> #endmeeting