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15:06:17 <slangasek> [TOPIC] lightning round
15:07:19 <slangasek> $ echo $(shuf -e barry doko stgraber jodh ev bdmurray slangasek ogra infinity cjwatson)
15:07:22 <slangasek> jodh ev stgraber doko barry cjwatson ogra infinity bdmurray slangasek
15:07:27 <jodh> * [boot]
15:07:28 <jodh> - plymouth: Sent a real fix for bug 553745 upstream (awaiting
15:07:28 <jodh> feedback). Hopefully, we'll be able to close the 270 duplicate bugs
15:07:28 <jodh> real soon now :)
15:07:30 <ubottu> Launchpad bug 553745 in plymouth (Ubuntu Lucid) "plymouthd crashed with SIGSEGV in ply_event_loop_process_pending_events()" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/553745
15:07:31 <jodh> - lightdm: Comments on bug 969489. Needs more thought.
15:07:31 <ubottu> Launchpad bug 969489 in lightdm (Ubuntu) "lightdm tries (and fails) to start too early?" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/969489
15:07:34 <jodh> * [doc]
15:07:37 <jodh> - Cookbook updates (the cookbook now appears to have broken rst2pdf :()
15:07:40 <jodh> * [misc]
15:07:44 <jodh> - Updated https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FoundationsTeam/PreferredTechnologies
15:07:47 <jodh> * [release]
15:07:50 <jodh> - Lots of work on Upstart Release Notes
15:07:53 <jodh> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PrecisePangolin/ReleaseNotes/TechnicalOverviewUpstart
15:07:56 <jodh> ⠕
15:08:11 <ev> - Finished the apport branch that handles breaks/replaces in the retrace cache
15:08:12 <ev> which I mentioned last week.
15:08:13 <ev> - Continued to shop the crash database statistics website design around.
15:08:13 <ev> Please give me your feedback as time allows.
15:08:23 <ev> - Meeting with the good folks at Acunu on Friday to discuss their Acunu
15:08:23 <ev> Anayltics project which we may use as the foundation of our metrics service.
15:08:25 <ev> They're debating internally whether or not to open source it, with some
15:08:26 <ev> people pushing hard for it to be open. Unfortunately it's a bit of a black
15:08:28 <ev> box at the moment as the copy they're distributing is binary-only. I've put
15:08:29 <ev> it up in the Canonicloud with a public IP and am working on instructions for
15:08:31 <ev> those that want to test metrics collection against it.
15:08:37 <ev> - Built a mean time between failures graph using sample data and the very cool
15:08:38 <ev> nvd3 that itself builds on the even cooler d3.js:
15:08:39 <ev> http://novus.github.com/nvd3/examples/cumulativeLine.html
15:08:40 <ev> - Built out support in oops-repository for collecting mean time between
15:08:42 <ev> failures in real time. Worked with webops to get this deployed.
15:08:43 <ev> - Fought CSS to the death (and lost) attempting to get our most common
15:08:45 <ev> problems table to use 100% of the available width, giving as little as it
15:08:46 <ev> can to all the columns except for the signature one. Hacking around for now.
15:08:48 <ev> - Dug at the whoopsie build failures on PPC and ARM. Traced the cause to a
15:08:49 <ev> non-boolean function used as a glib callback. Fixed.
15:08:51 <ev> - Changed our retracing code to use the new cached sandboxes and manage their
15:08:52 <ev> creation and removal. This had a slight bug in that it was creating
15:08:54 <ev> sandboxes for every single crash it retraced, quickly eating up the space on
15:08:55 <ev> that production machine. I've fixed this and webops are working on deploying
15:08:57 <ev> it.
15:08:58 <ev> - Sat in on a FY11 presentation given by Rick.
15:09:00 <ev> - Meeting with the design team to discuss an improved mockup and specification
15:09:01 <ev> process.
15:09:02 <ev> (done)
15:09:19 <stgraber> Very short week, was off on Friday, Monday and Tuesday
15:09:19 <stgraber> - ISO tracker
15:09:19 <stgraber> - Minor bug reporting bugfix pushed to production
15:09:19 <stgraber> - Containers
15:09:19 <stgraber> - Minor LXC fixes
15:09:21 <stgraber> - Installer
15:09:24 <stgraber> - Fixed bug 966294!
15:09:26 <ubottu> Launchpad bug 966294 in GStreamer "gstreamer hangs when accessing webcam (on specific hardware)" [Medium,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/966294
15:09:27 <stgraber> - Fixed some more installer bugs (bug 973794, bug 984883)
15:09:28 <ubottu> Launchpad bug 973794 in casper (Ubuntu) "Malformed 'search' entry in /etc/resolv.conf on network install" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/973794
15:09:29 <stgraber> - Release
15:09:29 <ubottu> Launchpad bug 984883 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "Ubuntu Precise alternate OEM: No slideshow during end user setup" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/984883
15:09:32 <stgraber> - Code review for unapproved uploads
15:09:33 <barry> stgraber: \o/
15:09:34 <stgraber> - ISO testing
15:09:36 <stgraber> - TODO this week (today/tomorrow)
15:09:39 <stgraber> - Continue bug fixing and testing images.
15:09:42 <stgraber> (DONE)
15:10:41 <doko> - ARM dynamic linker path - call and updates.
15:10:41 <doko> - python2.6 rebuilds and removals
15:10:41 <doko> - python 2.7.3 and 3.2.3 final releases
15:10:41 <doko> - prepared sru updates for python-defaults and gcc-4.6
15:10:41 <doko> - prepare toolchain opening for q (gcc-4.7 ARM fixes, fixed or sent patches for all gcc-4.7
15:10:42 <doko> ftbfs (main), work done in unstable).
15:10:44 <doko> - Linaro gcc-4.6 and 4.7 merges
15:10:48 <doko> - gdb Linaro update (rejected)
15:10:50 <doko> - best guesses on bug 983981.
15:10:52 <doko> (done)
15:10:55 <ubottu> Launchpad bug 983981 in update-manager (Ubuntu) "Lucid -> Precise main failed to upgrade: ERROR: pycompile:Requested versions are not installed dpkg: error processing python2.7-minimal installed post-installation script returned error exit status 3" [High,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/983981
15:11:08 <barry> bug 975417; bug 873468; debian bug 585145; python issue 9762; unity 2d HUD testing; more python3 transition work for 12.10; done.
15:11:15 <ev> jodh: thanks for those updates to PreferredTechnologies!
15:11:15 <ubottu> Launchpad bug 975417 in paraview (Ubuntu) "ParaView conflicts with python-vtk, python-viper,..." [Undecided,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/975417
15:11:16 <ubottu> Launchpad bug 873468 in update-manager (Ubuntu Precise) "Update to latest Release failed for overloaded mirrors with no descriptive error message" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/873468
15:11:17 <ubottu> Debian bug 585145 in wnpp "ITA: gtimelog -- minimal timelogging system" [Normal,Fixed] http://bugs.debian.org/585145
15:11:36 <jodh> ev: np
15:11:59 <jodh> ev: I feel that page could one day outgrow the cookbook :)
15:12:09 <ev> I sure hope so :)
15:12:27 <slangasek> jodh: 969489> I had talked with bryce and apw about that the other day; the real problem seems to be that the graphics-device-added event happens before the device is actually ready, for obscure kernel reasons, and we don't have a reliable event that things can wait on
15:12:29 <ev> there's already lots of good pointers in there about things I was completely unaware of.
15:12:39 <cjwatson> Some more installer translation merges.  Tweaked partman-auto to reduce risk.
15:12:41 <barry> indeed
15:12:42 <cjwatson> Add hd-media/non-pae installer build (bug 977568).
15:12:44 <ubottu> Launchpad bug 977568 in debian-installer (Ubuntu) "Xubuntu nightly ISOs use the non-PAE kernel, but no hd-media image is available for that" [Undecided,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/977568
15:12:45 <cjwatson> Spent Thursday in London, mostly helping James track down the famous plymouth crash.
15:12:48 <cjwatson> Fixed mountall and NTFS not being friends when pass!=0 (bug 838091).
15:12:50 <ubottu> Launchpad bug 838091 in mountall (Ubuntu Oneiric) "should not try to fsck ntfs volumes on boot" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/838091
15:12:50 <cjwatson> Fixed the last two powerpc-specific build failures in main.  Cleaned up a few other NBS and FTBFS bits and pieces.
15:12:53 <jodh> slangasek: ugh!
15:12:53 <cjwatson> Add manual download verification pass to ubiquity to work around apt bug 922949.
15:12:55 <ubottu> Launchpad bug 922949 in apt (Ubuntu Precise) "installation process can crash due to an issue with one package when choosing "install updates" as part of the install" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/922949
15:12:56 <cjwatson> Disable webkit cache in installer slideshow in an attempt to work around bug 979350.  That's still outstanding and tricky, though.
15:12:59 <ubottu> Launchpad bug 979350 in ubiquity (Ubuntu Precise) "install with encrypted home failed near the end: OSError: [Errno 12] Cannot allocate memory" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/979350
15:12:59 <cjwatson> Holiday on Monday.
15:13:02 <cjwatson> Miscellaneous command-not-found cleanups.
15:13:04 <cjwatson> grub2 EFI backports to fix bug 975061.
15:13:05 <ubottu> Launchpad bug 975061 in grub2 (Ubuntu) "grub doesn't find boot" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/975061
15:13:07 <cjwatson> Fix broken panel colour in ubiquity (bug 982883).
15:13:08 <ubottu> Launchpad bug 982883 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "[UIFe] Wrong color of top panel in ubiquity-dm" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/982883
15:13:09 <cjwatson> Fix broken location of kernel/initrd symlinks on powerpc (bug 958839).
15:13:10 <ubottu> Launchpad bug 958839 in live-build (Ubuntu) "Initrd/vmlinux symbloic links not in /boot directory on PowerPC" [Medium,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/958839
15:13:12 <cjwatson> Worked on analysing various upgrade bugs, and generally tried to clean up our rls-p-tracking list.
15:13:15 <cjwatson> Working with dpkg upstream on bug 983187.
15:13:16 <ubottu> Launchpad bug 983187 in dpkg (Ubuntu) "dpkg-divert: --add --rename --package shouldn't rename if owned by package" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/983187
15:13:17 <cjwatson> ..
15:13:28 <ogra_> done:
15:13:29 <ogra_> * many many hours spent on more compiz issues (actually nearly all my week, i'm in the last stages of testing it in the images,
15:13:29 <ogra_> seems there are still minor issues with gtk-window-decorator)
15:13:29 <ogra_> * had long discussions with linaro about possible blueprints for arm bits (summary mail to platfound ML pending)
15:13:29 <ogra_> * tons of user support over the weekend to nail down why suddenly initramfs doesnt find /init anymore on arm (fixed by infinity)
15:13:32 <ogra_> * did some peer reviews
15:13:34 <ogra_> * partman-uboot will have to be either SRU or go into 12.10 proper, compiz just stole to much of my time :(
15:13:37 <ogra_> todo:
15:13:39 <ogra_> * finish peer reviews
15:13:41 <ogra_> * finish ubuntu-core wikipage rewrite
15:13:43 <ogra_> * look into fsck slowdown (sorry steve, still didnt get to it :/ )
15:13:45 <ogra_> UDS:
15:13:47 <ogra_> * linaro would like to:
15:13:51 <ogra_> a) have truely embedded image possibilities and closer integration for any embedded stuff (like dev environments
15:13:54 <ogra_> (i.e. board specific eclipse plugins) but also the opportunity to build actual embedded images (i.e. for systems
15:13:57 <ogra_> with only 64M ram and 128M flash space)
15:13:59 <ogra_> b) see us integrate HW-pack usage into our build system (to drop duplication, we all seem to build the same stuff)
15:14:02 <ogra_> both should become blueprints imho.
15:14:04 <ogra_> ..
15:14:56 <jodh> ogra_: what was the cause of the inaccessible /init ?
15:15:16 <ogra_> jodh, linker path breakage in initramfs-tools and d-i
15:15:23 <ogra_> well, fsvo breakage :)
15:15:44 <cjwatson> aka fallout from change in progress
15:15:47 <ogra_> right
15:16:03 <ogra_> well, i dont think adam expected that he had to touch it
15:16:56 <ogra_> oh
15:16:57 <ogra_> ..
15:20:11 <slangasek> ogra_: fsck slowdown> well if people would just be happy running metacity on arm... ;)
15:20:20 <ogra_> haha
15:20:25 <slangasek> ogra_: please get blueprints registered for both of those topics and targeted to the sprint
15:20:29 <ogra_> well, its not off my TODO
15:20:35 <ogra_> yeah, will do
15:20:56 <slangasek> bdmurray:
15:21:05 <ogra_> fsck can well be SRUed ... sadly partman-uboot is useless as SUR until 12.04.1
15:21:57 <bdmurray> bug triage of update-manager and ubiquity bug reports
15:21:58 <bdmurray> uploaded an apport change to check /cdrom fullness for package install failures
15:22:01 <bdmurray> uploaded update-manager patch in bug 945536
15:22:03 <ubottu> Launchpad bug 945536 in update-manager (Ubuntu Precise) "Excruciatingly slow package list onscreen update" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/945536
15:22:03 <bdmurray> reported ubiquity bug 979350 regarding out of memory
15:22:05 <ubottu> Launchpad bug 979350 in ubiquity (Ubuntu Precise) "install with encrypted home failed near the end: OSError: [Errno 12] Cannot allocate memory" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/979350
15:22:11 <bdmurray> reported casper bug 984276 regarding installing casper on non-live systems
15:22:12 <ubottu> Launchpad bug 984276 in casper (Ubuntu) "installing casper on a non live system causes update-initramfs to fail" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/984276
15:22:12 <slangasek> well, and also useful for people building other images out of the precise archive (i.e., OEMs)... so still worth doing even if it slips
15:22:14 <bdmurray> consolidation of duplicates of bug 984276 and bug 902603
15:22:16 <ubottu> Launchpad bug 902603 in dpkg (Ubuntu Oneiric) "When installing Multi-Arch: same (meta-)package for two architectures, dpkg considers one arch as completely disappeared" [High,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/902603
15:22:17 <bdmurray> bug triage of ubiquity bug 980676 and finding duplicates of it
15:22:17 <ubottu> Launchpad bug 980676 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "migration-assistant causes an install failure when encountering another OS with multiple users" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/980676
15:22:19 <bdmurray> wrote a flashplugin-nonfree bug pattern for bug 876298 (dupe cleanup too)
15:22:20 <ubottu> Launchpad bug 876298 in update-notifier (Ubuntu) "[FFe] [MASTER] We need to better handle external payloads (Flash, msttcorefonts) not being available." [Critical,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/876298
15:22:33 <bdmurray> added a bug pattern for bug 975320 regarding update-manager / aptdaemon
15:22:33 <bdmurray> converted some harvest opportunities to output json data instead of csv files
15:22:34 <ubottu> Launchpad bug 975320 in aptdaemon (Ubuntu) "update-manager crashed with Depends in _run_in_dialog(): libx264-120 but it is not installed" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/975320
15:22:36 <bdmurray> wrote code to query ultimate debian database for duplicate title bugs by the same reporter
15:24:46 <slangasek> bdmurray: done?
15:25:07 <bdmurray> .. done ..
15:25:24 <slangasek> * release queue reviews
15:25:25 <slangasek> * follow through on update-notifier for the downloader changes (bug #979477, bug #979426, bug #976761)
15:25:27 <slangasek> * fixed busybox creating directories with wrong perms on 64-bit (bug #980772)
15:25:28 <ubottu> Launchpad bug 979477 in update-notifier (Ubuntu) "ttf-mscorefonts-installer installation popup and probable failure" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/979477
15:25:30 <ubottu> Launchpad bug 979426 in update-notifier (Ubuntu) "persistent MitM can truncate list of files passed as script command line arguments" [Medium,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/979426
15:25:30 <slangasek> * fixed race condition in crypted swap on boot (bug #874774)
15:25:32 <ubottu> Launchpad bug 976761 in update-notifier (Ubuntu) "package-data-downloader crashed with OSError in mark_hook_failed(): [Errno 13] Permission denied: '/var/lib/update-notifier/package-data-downloads/flashplugin-installer.failed'" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/976761
15:25:33 <slangasek> * followed through on the insserv breakage cleanup (bug #941867)
15:25:34 <ubottu> Launchpad bug 980772 in busybox (Ubuntu Precise) "Various files and directories created with odd permissions on precise" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/980772
15:25:35 <slangasek> * killed defoma out of main
15:25:35 <ubottu> Launchpad bug 874774 in cryptsetup (Ubuntu Oneiric) "could not mount /dev/mapper/cryptswap1" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/874774
15:25:37 <ubottu> Launchpad bug 941867 in insserv (Ubuntu Oneiric) "after upgrade to 1.14.0-2.1ubuntu0.1 0 dpkg --configure ror" [High,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/941867
15:25:38 <slangasek> * trimmed plymouth bug pattern to not match on precise, now that we think the bugs are fixed (so we can see any reports that they aren't)
15:25:43 <slangasek> done
15:27:10 <slangasek> any questions anywhere?
15:27:34 <slangasek> [TOPIC] Bugs
15:28:14 <bdmurray> I've tried recreating bug 978181 and bug 974402 without any luck
15:28:16 <ubottu> Launchpad bug 978181 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "User home not created after install" [High,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/978181
15:28:17 <ubottu> Launchpad bug 974402 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "No user home directory created on clean install using btrfs" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/974402
15:28:41 <bdmurray> I don't think many people choose btrfs but it is still worrisome
15:29:27 <slangasek> encrypted home would never prevent the directory from being created, AFAIK
15:29:44 <slangasek> though I guess ecryptfs+btrfs could be making the filesystem explode
15:29:48 <cjwatson> this sort of thing can happen if user-setup-apply runs into an error and bails out early
15:31:09 <cjwatson> but that's not what's happening in 978181 at least
15:31:23 <slangasek> I have a vague memory of seeing something else on IRC about btrfs this week
15:31:29 <cjwatson> oh eep the @home madness
15:31:44 <slangasek> something about problems when /home is on btrfs and you're installing over an existing system?
15:31:54 <cjwatson> it might make a difference if you're reusing an existing @home, yes
15:33:29 <slangasek> bdmurray: is it worth testing that?
15:34:01 <slangasek> i.e., install, then try to install again over it
15:34:22 <bdmurray> I'll look for more duplicates but I don't think so
15:34:54 <slangasek> you don't think it's worth testing?
15:35:18 <bdmurray> slangasek: I don't think its worth testing before release
15:35:26 <slangasek> ok
15:36:08 * slangasek asks on the bug then
15:36:12 <slangasek> moving on
15:36:30 <bdmurray> I previously mentioned bug 984276
15:36:31 <ubottu> Launchpad bug 984276 in casper (Ubuntu) "installing casper on a non live system causes update-initramfs to fail" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/984276
15:37:03 <bdmurray> I was surprised by the number of people who install casper
15:37:29 <ogra_> yeah, but there is no easy solution apart from making it uninstallable on non live fses
15:37:47 <ogra_> i mean, if users want to shoot both their feet, who are we to stop them
15:37:56 <slangasek> the question is why they're doing so
15:38:02 <ogra_> indeed
15:38:20 <slangasek> do they have a fondness for friendly ghosts, or is some web page telling them to, or...
15:39:11 <ogra_> hmm, wasnt there another bug that was actually community reported ?
15:39:38 <ogra_> oh, sorry, i'm blind .. just a master
15:40:14 <bdmurray> casper shows up in software center fwiw
15:40:16 <slangasek> bdmurray: how should we approach this to figure out where this problem is coming from?
15:40:29 <slangasek> in software-center> doh
15:40:48 <slangasek> bdmurray: can you open a bug report on software-center about getting that fixed?
15:41:04 <bdmurray> slangasek: sure
15:41:47 <ogra_> we could possibly make casper chack something like "is a bootloader configured" and make it become a no-op then
15:41:55 <ogra_> *check
15:41:58 <slangasek> hmm, seems to be a general problem
15:42:02 <slangasek> 'fontconfig' also shows up in casper
15:42:21 <bdmurray> ogra_: yes, I think something like that may help too
15:42:40 <slangasek> ogra_: do you want to take that one?
15:42:58 <ogra_> i can, sure ... i guess thats supposed to happen before release ? :)
15:43:12 <ogra_> since SRUing it seems to make not much sense
15:43:22 <slangasek> ogra_: best-effort
15:43:25 <ogra_> k
15:43:47 <slangasek> it still gives benefit if we get it in SRU, and it's not the highest priority issue
15:44:03 <slangasek> btw, as far as bugs go... we have http://reports.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/kernel-bugs/reports/rls-p-tracking-bugs.html down about where we want it, and if we're taking any more bugs that it's critical to fix for .0, they'll probably be so critical that we don't even need to track them on there :-P
15:44:10 <ogra_> yeah, with luck people with casper installed get the updated version before their system breaks :)
15:44:29 <slangasek> so how should we be tracking bugs that are priorities but that aren't tied to .0?
15:44:37 <slangasek> rls-p-tracking, target to precise-updates?
15:44:45 <ogra_> ++
15:44:46 <cjwatson> I think so
15:44:55 <slangasek> bdmurray: ^^ does that sound good to you?
15:46:32 <bdmurray> slangasek: both? yes that's fine
15:46:42 <slangasek> yeah, both
15:48:08 <slangasek> bdmurray: any other new issues popping up?
15:48:27 <bdmurray> bug 984593 was just reported
15:48:28 <ubottu> Launchpad bug 984593 in Wubi "Wubi upgrade from 10.04.4 to 12.04 exceptions" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/984593
15:48:56 <bdmurray> I haven't looked at it thoroughly yet
15:50:04 <slangasek> so far I don't see anything wubi related in the bug... and the submitter broke it out into per-issue bugs for us already?
15:50:19 <slangasek> i.e., all the issues he had look like upgrade issues, not wubi issues
15:50:26 <bdmurray> I think they initially installed from wubi then upgraded to precise
15:51:02 <slangasek> yep... I just don't see anything (yet) to make me think he actually had wubi-specific problems
15:51:23 <slangasek> bug #984932 - hah
15:51:24 <ubottu> Launchpad bug 984932 in ubiquity (Ubuntu Precise) "Ubuntu alternate OEM: main part of the panel missing during end-user configuration" [Medium,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/984932
15:51:28 <slangasek> cjwatson: ^^ missing image again? :)
15:51:51 <cjwatson> hmm
15:51:58 <slangasek> (oem-config vs. ubiquity?)
15:52:17 <bdmurray> slangasek: okay, I'll dig into it and the related bugs more
15:52:17 <cjwatson> different weirdness
15:52:21 <slangasek> bdmurray: cheers
15:52:29 <cjwatson> oem-config-gtk depends: ubiquity-frontend-gtk so I don't think it's missing image
15:52:36 <slangasek> so does everyone have enough bugs to keep themselves feeling productive between now and release?
15:52:41 <cjwatson> more than
15:52:50 <slangasek> does anyone want to take some bugs from cjwatson? :P
15:53:14 <stgraber> I'll take bug 984932
15:53:16 <ubottu> Launchpad bug 984932 in ubiquity (Ubuntu Precise) "Ubuntu alternate OEM: main part of the panel missing during end-user configuration" [Medium,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/984932
15:53:23 <slangasek> stgraber: thanks
15:53:32 <cjwatson> cool, that should be fine, just generally fielding installer things that come up in QA
15:54:09 <slangasek> fwiw, if anyone's not finding bugs to work on, another source for them is http://reports.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/foundations-bugs/foundations-bugs-packages-hottest-bugs.html ... don't remember if this has been passed around to the team yet
15:54:26 <slangasek> great report by bdmurray that shows the hottest bugs across all the foundations packages he's tracking
15:54:41 <bdmurray> I'd hope I passed it around ;-)
15:54:44 <cjwatson> bug 984989 needs attention (from me)
15:54:45 <ubottu> Launchpad bug 984989 in grub-installer (Ubuntu) "grub install fails. installing from /dev/sda to /dev/sdb" [Critical,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/984989
15:54:46 <slangasek> [LINK] http://reports.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/foundations-bugs/foundations-bugs-packages-hottest-bugs.html
15:55:34 <barry> computer-janitor makes me sad ;)
15:55:36 <slangasek> but you can safely assume that any of the bugs on that graph have a significant user impact and are worth fixing
15:55:45 <slangasek> heh
15:56:20 <slangasek> cjwatson: rls-p-tracking?
15:56:23 <ev> ooooh jquery
15:56:34 <bdmurray> sssh
15:56:39 <cjwatson> slangasek: why not, added
15:56:40 <ev> that's going to get a shouty response
15:56:45 <ev> bdmurray: ;)
15:57:19 <slangasek> ev: grandfathered :P
15:57:45 <ev> heh
15:58:14 <slangasek> don't worry, I'll take the heat for the graph not being suitable for integrating into our webapps
15:58:14 <ev> there's always d3.js...
15:58:47 <bdmurray> slangasek: you'll take the heat for the heat graph? ;-)
15:58:53 <slangasek> I will!
15:59:05 <slangasek> bdmurray: any other bugs?
15:59:14 <bdmurray> not that I know of yet
15:59:16 <ev> so I've just discovered that if you download and run wubi when you have a cd in the drive, you now helpfully get the autorun menu
15:59:32 <ev> this is probably my fault
15:59:38 <slangasek> !!
15:59:41 <slangasek> fix it fix it
16:00:07 <ev> my whole day has been fixing things! Can't I just break things for a little while?
16:00:18 <slangasek> no, break things on your own time
16:00:28 <ev> lol, damn
16:00:31 <slangasek> preferably in some other OS ;)
16:00:36 <slangasek> [TOPIC] AOB
16:00:38 <slangasek> anything else?
16:00:54 <cjwatson> who's going to the release sprint from our team?
16:00:58 <ev> would still appreciate your collective feedback on that email I sent
16:01:01 <cjwatson> I believe I am
16:01:07 <ev> o/
16:01:08 <slangasek> infinity is
16:01:33 <cjwatson> hm, looks like I need to ask about accom
16:01:53 <ev> who's going to be here not from our team? Rick and Kate?
16:02:09 <ev> and presumably andy for comedy value
16:02:16 <slangasek> heh
16:02:37 <cjwatson> Pete too
16:02:45 <ev> awesome!
16:03:57 <ev> cjwatson: skaet and I are going to block out some time at the release sprint to discuss the crashdb website design. Care to join us?
16:03:57 <slangasek> #endmeeting