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15:05:39 <slangasek> [TOPIC] Lightning round
15:05:41 <slangasek> $ echo $(shuf -e barry doko stgraber jodh ev bdmurray slangasek ogra infinity cjwatson)
15:05:44 <slangasek> barry stgraber ev cjwatson slangasek infinity bdmurray doko ogra jodh
15:05:56 <barry> bug 959724; bug 941790; bug 960595 (reviewed and tested); bug 966257; bug 966521; (other flufl.* package updates in debian); dmb meeting; upgrade issues (problems w/unity, unity2d/3d testing, desktop failures); boring stuff: expense reports, perf reviews, pycon catchup. ∅
15:06:00 <ubottu> Launchpad bug 959724 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "Limit boot loader installation target" [Medium,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/959724
15:06:02 <ubottu> Launchpad bug 941790 in unity "Emacs window shrinks automatically" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/941790
15:06:03 <ubottu> Launchpad bug 960595 in python-scipy (Debian) "FFe for python3 scipy packages" [Unknown,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/960595
15:06:05 <ubottu> Launchpad bug 966257 in flufl.enum (Ubuntu) "[FFe] sync to latest Debian version" [Undecided,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/966257
15:06:06 <ubottu> Launchpad bug 966521 in flufl.bounce (Ubuntu) "[FFe] sync flufl.{bounce,password,i18n,lock} from Debian" [Undecided,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/966521
15:06:33 <stgraber> Bugs, bugs, bugs...
15:06:33 <stgraber> - ISO tracker
15:06:33 <stgraber> - Discussed the hardware profile API with cr3, now waiting for implementation
15:06:36 <stgraber> - Wrote a new script to push new netboot images to the tracker everytime we have a d-i build
15:06:39 <stgraber> - Created localized ISO tracker at http://localized-iso.qa.ubuntu.com
15:06:41 <stgraber> - Rewrote LP integration script to use storm and the API, much cleaner and much faster
15:06:44 <stgraber> - Major bug cleanup, went from 85 down to just 14, now working on fixing the remaining ones
15:06:47 <stgraber> - Installer
15:06:50 <stgraber> - Quite a lot of ubiquity bug fixes
15:06:52 <stgraber> - Uploaded new ubiquity slideshow and did some cleanup of the bugs
15:06:55 <stgraber> - Containers
15:06:57 <stgraber> - (RELEASE) LXC now works properly with apparmor blocking most of the known security issues.
15:07:00 <stgraber> - (RELEASE) Released arkose 1.5.1 (bugfix and translations update)
15:07:03 <stgraber> - TPM
15:07:05 <stgraber> - Did some more bugfixing of opencryptoki's packaging
15:07:08 <stgraber> - Other
15:07:11 <stgraber> - Improved queuebot to work with all releases, the NEW queue and with the ISO tracker
15:07:14 <stgraber> - Released and uploaded a new LTSP bugfix release, 5.3.6
15:07:16 <stgraber> - Made pastebinit use the langpacks for translations
15:07:19 <stgraber> - TODO this week
15:07:21 <stgraber> - Continue working on bugs
15:07:24 <stgraber> (DONE)
15:08:20 <slangasek> ev's off today; cjwatson:
15:09:34 <cjwatson> Extensive Ubiquity test suite fixes.
15:09:34 <cjwatson> OpenSSL 1.0.1.
15:09:34 <cjwatson> Half-day patch piloting.
15:09:34 <cjwatson> Updated my Lucid OpenSSH backport PPA.
15:09:34 <cjwatson> Beta 2 preparation.  Various small fixes all over the place.  Lots of archive administration.
15:09:38 <cjwatson> More secure boot discussions.
15:09:40 <cjwatson> Fixed auto-upgrade-tester's detection of obsolete conffiles.
15:09:43 <cjwatson> Landed a few miscellaneous Launchpad branches, including a slight NewReleaseCycleProcess simplification that removes another need for archive admin lp_publish access.
15:09:46 <cjwatson> Worked on Launchpad branch to open up -proposed for use during development.  Nearly finished.
15:09:49 <cjwatson> Performance self-review.
15:09:51 <cjwatson> ..
15:11:16 <slangasek> partner archive work
15:11:26 <infinity> Sorry I'm late.
15:11:28 <slangasek> performance self-review
15:11:46 <slangasek> picking off obsolete conffiles from the jenkins upgrade reports
15:11:50 <doko> ahh, the self-review ...
15:12:05 <slangasek> misc beta-2 helping
15:12:09 <slangasek> ..
15:12:17 <slangasek> infinity: hey there - you're next
15:12:51 <infinity> Oh.  I'm not awake enough to be next.
15:12:58 <slangasek> bdrung:
15:12:59 <slangasek> sorry
15:13:01 <slangasek> bdmurray:
15:13:07 <bdmurray> bug triage of foundation's hottest bugs
15:13:07 <bdmurray> bug triage of iso-testing bug reports
15:13:07 <bdmurray> fixed ubiquity bug 960278
15:13:09 <ubottu> Launchpad bug 960278 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "ubiquity crashed with UnicodeEncodeError in debug(): 'ascii' codec can't encode character u'\xe9' in position 55: ordinal not in range(128)" [Low,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/960278
15:13:17 <bdmurray> wrote a bug pattern for bug 929219
15:13:17 <bdmurray> cleaning up duplicates of bug 891711 and bug 944191
15:13:17 <bdmurray> modifications to cbd to remove tasks no longer matching criteria
15:13:18 <ubottu> Launchpad bug 929219 in eglibc (Ubuntu Precise) "chromium-browser crashed with SIGSEGV in __nscd_get_mapping()" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/929219
15:13:20 <ubottu> Launchpad bug 891711 in ubiquity (Ubuntu Oneiric) "Fails to copy directory over symlink (e.g. /var/lock when downgrading from 11.10 to 11.04)" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/891711
15:13:21 <ubottu> Launchpad bug 944191 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "Installation program crashed while typing username" [Undecided,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/944191
15:13:38 <bdmurray> blog post regarding hottest bugs charts
15:13:38 <bdmurray> testing apport kerneloops no package hook run issue
15:13:43 <bdmurray> done
15:14:24 <doko> - vacation last week
15:14:24 <doko> - catch up with email
15:14:24 <doko> - started test rebuild
15:14:24 <doko> - prepared packages for gcc-4.7 test rebuild
15:14:24 <doko> - gccgo-4.7.0
15:14:24 <doko> - Linaro call
15:14:52 <ogra_> done ?
15:15:42 * ogra_ assumes so
15:15:45 <ogra_> done:
15:15:45 <ogra_> * bugwork on 960710 (jasper doesnt enable deb-src on preinstalled images)
15:15:45 <ogra_> * lots of (time consuming) debugging work on bug 961133
15:15:45 <ogra_> * uploaded pvr sgx driver (sitting in NEW to go to multiverse, then we can add the compiz GLES patch and add jasper support for pvr)
15:15:45 <ogra_> * started reworking partman-uboot for vfat to fix bug 872525 (thabnks colin for pointing to it)
15:15:47 <ogra_> * stopwatched initrdless boot on panda to serial login prompt: with initrd 50sec, without initrd 25sec. so dropping the initrd from panda installs would win us 25sec
15:15:47 <ubottu> Launchpad bug 961133 in linux (Ubuntu) "No video output from Ubuntu Desktop ARM Images on my Pandaboard to my DVI monitor" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/961133
15:15:49 <ubottu> Launchpad bug 872525 in partman-uboot (Ubuntu Precise) "No option for u-boot partition on armel omap/omap4 platforms" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/872525
15:15:50 <ogra_> (note that u-boot initialization takes about 10sec)
15:15:52 <ogra_> * lots of arm community support
15:15:54 <ogra_> * self review done)
15:15:56 <ogra_> beta2:
15:16:00 <ogra_> * tested ac100 images and fixed a minor issue
15:16:02 <ogra_> * tested omap4 images
15:16:04 <ogra_> * still testing omap3
15:16:06 <ogra_> todo:
15:16:08 <ogra_> * merge compiz GLES patch once the driver is up
15:16:10 <ogra_> * look into jockey PVR driver integration
15:16:12 <ogra_> * look into fsck slowdown
15:16:14 <ogra_> * finish partman-uboot rewrite for omap3/4
15:16:16 <ogra_> * peer reviews
15:16:27 <ogra_> the initrdless boot stuff was very intresting ... jodh i still see upstart complain about ptys btw ... but it finishes the boot
15:16:48 <jodh> yes, it will complain, then fall back to "console none".
15:17:03 <jodh> Maybe we'll bundle mountall into upstart for Q? :)
15:17:27 <jodh> ogra_: done?
15:17:48 <ogra_> dropping the initrd on arm got me at best 12sec boots (from loading kernel to login prompt) since i stopwatch its not very precise so i took the worst measuring ... but it looks like we can cut boottime in half on pandas with dropping initrd
15:17:54 <ogra_> (sorry was typing)
15:17:57 <ogra_> done ;)
15:18:08 <jodh> * [misc]
15:18:08 <jodh> * Performance self+mgr review.
15:18:08 <jodh> * Put PPU application together.
15:18:08 <jodh> * [boot/upstart]
15:18:11 <jodh> * [#] Upstart 1.5 release and associated Ubuntu merge.
15:18:15 <jodh> * Big update to upstart-events(7).
15:18:20 <jodh> * Upstart Cookbook updates.
15:18:23 <jodh> * Lots of IRC today discussion (resulting in another pending Cookbook update).
15:18:23 <jodh> * [boot/plymouth]
15:18:26 <jodh> * Working on Plymouth SIGSEGV bugs (553745, 849414).
15:18:29 <jodh> ⟰
15:18:33 <jodh> 
15:18:36 <jodh> ogra_: nice!
15:18:48 <slangasek> ogra_: how does that compare with the boot time when using a "minimal" initrd, which I think was the other part of that comparison that the kernel team wanted?
15:18:52 <ogra_> yes, its pretty impressive
15:19:12 <slangasek> (i.e., an initramfs that doesn't start udev or contain modules, just immediately resolves the rootfs and pivots)
15:19:23 <ogra_> right, havent tested that yet
15:19:29 <slangasek> ok
15:19:45 <ogra_> but given that the loading even of a very small file in u-boot doesnt happen under 5 sec ...
15:20:02 <slangasek> ogra_: ah :)
15:20:12 <cjwatson> what's it doing?!
15:20:21 <infinity> Your uBoot seems a lot sadder than mine...
15:20:22 <ogra_> i'll test with the minimal one for getting the numbers at least
15:20:35 <cjwatson> Reparsing a filesystem every time or something?
15:20:49 <cjwatson> (and badly, presumably)
15:20:51 <ogra_> it loads the file from slow media (SD), then removes the header and suffles it around in ram
15:20:59 <ogra_> *shuffles
15:21:10 <slangasek> and using a terrible i/o implementation for the load, too
15:21:12 <ogra_> i'm sure it can be made faster on the ram side
15:21:21 <ogra_> but the SD is always in the way
15:21:27 <cjwatson> slangasek: right, that wouldn't have accounted for 5s on small files on its own though
15:21:36 <slangasek> yeah
15:21:42 <slangasek> infinity: your turn again
15:21:51 <infinity> - fix p11-kit bug 911436 in two ways
15:21:52 <infinity> - performance reviews (manager + self)
15:21:52 <infinity> - beta 2 release management involvement
15:21:52 <infinity> - land lp-buildd performance improvements, and coordinate roll out
15:21:52 <infinity> - work with IS on reallocation of beagles as livefs buildds
15:21:54 <infinity> - look into bug 965840
15:21:56 <infinity> - review PVR drivers and offer feedback for 959924
15:21:59 <infinity> - start work on bug 759545
15:21:59 <ubottu> Launchpad bug 911436 in p11-kit (Ubuntu) "https crashed with SIGSEGV in lookup_or_create_bucket()" [Critical,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/911436
15:22:01 <infinity> done
15:22:03 <ubottu> Launchpad bug 965840 in linux-ti-omap4 (Ubuntu Precise) "Need to apply patch: "ARM: Do not call flush_cache_user_range with mmap_sem held"" [Undecided,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/965840
15:22:04 <ubottu> Launchpad bug 759545 in grub2 (Ubuntu Precise) "user prompted to update unmodified grub configuration during Ubuntu server upgrade" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/759545
15:22:30 <infinity> Hrm, forgot the bug keyword for bug 959924
15:22:31 <ubottu> Launchpad bug 959924 in Ubuntu Precise "[needs-packaging] pvr sgx driver and kernel module for Pandaboard" [Wishlist,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/959924
15:22:40 <slangasek> great
15:22:43 <ogra_> any issues with the drivers ?
15:23:09 <infinity> ogra_: The first time around, I bounced them back to ricardo and he completely repackaged them.
15:23:17 <infinity> ogra_: I haven't had a chance to review the second roung. :)
15:23:22 <ogra_> ah, k
15:23:22 <infinity> round*
15:23:26 <ogra_> :)
15:24:30 <slangasek> any other questions on any of the above?
15:25:11 <slangasek> [TOPIC] Bugs
15:25:19 <cjwatson> stgraber: I'd just like to say thanks again for the queuebot improvements - it's fantastic now
15:25:40 <slangasek> bdmurray: what's hot in bugland?
15:25:48 <infinity> cjwatson: You can blame me for nagging him every 3 minutes with weird suggestions. :P
15:25:53 <stgraber> cjwatson: np :)
15:26:13 <bdmurray> well, I happened to be looking at hot bugs recently and ran across bug 606491
15:26:14 <ubottu> Launchpad bug 606491 in anacron (Ubuntu) "start: Job is already running: anacron" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/606491
15:27:09 <bdmurray> which may be related to bug 226780
15:27:10 <ubottu> Launchpad bug 226780 in apt (Ubuntu) "apt-key net-update does not obey APT::Acquire::http::Proxy" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/226780
15:28:56 <slangasek> 606491> interesting
15:29:09 <slangasek> I wonder if that's really an anacron bug
15:29:18 <slangasek> or if it should be handled as a bug in whatever job is hanging
15:29:25 <slangasek> (i.e., apt)
15:29:48 <infinity> If apt really is hanging.
15:30:57 <infinity> And for what definition of "hang".
15:31:01 * slangasek adds this to the queue for further investigation
15:31:43 <bdmurray> that's all I have so far - lots of iso-testing bugs to look at
15:32:05 <jodh> Hmm... anacron seems to be everywhere - /etc/apm/event.d/anacron
15:32:10 <cjwatson> Nothing looked too terrible when I looked earlier today, but no doubt there've been a slew since then
15:33:18 <cjwatson> (of iso-testing)
15:33:37 <slangasek> bug #966403 is the one on my radar from iso testing
15:33:38 <ubottu> Launchpad bug 966403 in plymouth (Ubuntu) "Lubuntu Install (entire disk with encryption) doesn't prompt for disk password." [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/966403
15:33:53 <slangasek> I'll see if I can't get to the bottom of that today
15:34:15 <slangasek> UnreportableReason: This is not an official Ubuntu package. Please remove any third party package and try again.
15:34:22 <slangasek> huh, why's *that* in the bug report?
15:36:12 <ogra_> theming issue eh ? *g*
15:36:56 <slangasek> maybe
15:37:37 <slangasek> [TOPIC] AOB
15:37:42 <slangasek> anything else?
15:38:27 <slangasek> thanks again everyone for the great work last week on the installer sprint - and for being flexible in your working hours
15:39:18 <phillw> +1
15:40:50 <barry> it was fun and productive!
15:41:36 <ogra_> ++
15:41:53 <stgraber> +1
15:42:03 <ogra_> btw, if that didnt come across ... i didnt mind the virtual jetlag actually :)
15:42:22 <slangasek> heh :)
15:43:20 <slangasek> #endmeeting