16:05:12 <Daviey> #startmeeting 16:05:12 <meetingology> Meeting started Tue Mar 20 16:05:12 2012 UTC. The chair is Daviey. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology. 16:05:12 <meetingology> 16:05:12 <meetingology> Available commands: #accept #accepted #action #agree #agreed #chair #commands #endmeeting #endvote #halp #help #idea #info #link #lurk #meetingname #meetingtopic #nick #progress #rejected #replay #restrictlogs #save #startmeeting #subtopic #topic #unchair #undo #unlurk #vote #voters #votesrequired 16:05:26 <Daviey> #topic Review ACTION points from previous meeting 16:05:34 <Daviey> arosales: add subtopics for release-bugs/BP;s under precise/current development 16:05:46 <hallyn> think i saw that done 16:05:47 <arosales> Hello 16:06:03 <arosales> I think I saw that was added, 16:06:14 <Daviey> cool 16:06:18 <Daviey> nothing else? 16:06:27 <Daviey> #topic Precise Development 16:06:36 <Daviey> So... 2 days until Beta 2 Freeze 16:06:48 <hallyn> "eek" 16:06:50 <Daviey> lets go through the bugs: 16:07:11 <Daviey> #link http://status.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/ubuntu-server/release-bugs.html 16:07:23 <Daviey> bug 883988 16:07:24 <ubottu> Launchpad bug 883988 in glance (Ubuntu Precise) "db migration failing when upgrading glance - trying to create existing tables" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/883988 16:07:30 <Daviey> adam_g: ^^ ? 16:08:00 <arosales> hallyn: thank you for adding the release /blueprint subtopicks (I was diff'ing to see where that came in) 16:08:22 <hallyn> arosales: i didn't :) accident of wiki misbehavior 16:08:33 <Daviey> bug 850443: considering deferring 16:08:35 <ubottu> Launchpad bug 850443 in python-eventlet (Ubuntu) "Nova API does not listen on IPv6" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/850443 16:08:54 <Daviey> smoser: is bug 928990 you? 16:08:56 <ubottu> Launchpad bug 928990 in cloud-init (Ubuntu) "fsck / dirty filesystem on instance is death" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/928990 16:09:19 <smoser> well, unless someone else wantsn to look at it. 16:09:31 <smoser> it would be good to get in, but its been that way for ever. 16:09:36 <Daviey> :( 16:10:04 * utlemming can't attend due to a phone conflict with 16:10:08 <utlemming> a vendor 16:10:24 <Daviey> utlemming: ok, can you comment if bug 893926 is progressing? 16:10:25 <ubottu> Launchpad bug 893926 in eucalyptus (Ubuntu) "Contains traces of UEC" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/893926 16:10:34 <SpamapS> lol, I've no excuse. Just forgot now that it is so much more convenient. ;) 16:10:39 <Daviey> SpamapS: bug 930916 :) 16:10:41 <ubottu> Launchpad bug 930916 in amavisd-new (Ubuntu) "amavis start-stop script fails to stop amavisd" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/930916 16:10:55 <utlemming> I've done the initial scoping, hoping to have something this week 16:10:58 <SpamapS> Daviey: its a simple fix, just haven't prioritized it yet. 16:11:05 <Daviey> adam_g: bug 956366 16:11:06 <ubottu> Launchpad bug 956366 in nova (Ubuntu) "self-referential security groups can not be deleted" [High,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/956366 16:11:07 <Daviey> utlemming: thanks 16:11:35 <Daviey> roaksoax: Are you likely going to have capacity to work on bug 880339 this week? 16:11:37 <ubottu> Launchpad bug 880339 in mysql-5.5 (Ubuntu Precise) "AppArmor profile needs update" [Medium,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/880339 16:11:49 <roaksoax> Daviey: no TBH 16:11:51 <Daviey> I suspect it's a "no".. 16:11:56 <Daviey> SpamapS: Can you take that? 16:12:17 <Daviey> zul: bug 907197 ? 16:12:18 <ubottu> Launchpad bug 907197 in nova (Ubuntu) "ip address can't be injected into the instance when using lxc " [Medium,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/907197 16:12:36 <zul> was not able to reproduce and no feedback from bug reporter 16:12:43 <Daviey> jjohansen: Hey, how is bug 925024 progressing? 16:12:45 <ubottu> Launchpad bug 925024 in linux (Ubuntu) "apparmor makes it impossible to install postgresql-common on Precise" [Medium,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/925024 16:12:55 <Daviey> zul: Make it incomplete ? 16:13:00 <zul> ack 16:13:04 <SpamapS> Daviey: the apparmor bug has been fixed for a long time.. I think 16:13:21 <Daviey> SpamapS: ah cool, can you update the bug with what you know? 16:13:36 <Daviey> zul: bug 954692 16:13:38 <ubottu> Launchpad bug 954692 in nova (Ubuntu) "cannot detach volume from terminated instance" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/954692 16:13:41 <SpamapS> Daviey: I did.. the reporter has not responded. 16:13:44 <jjohansen> Daviey: err that one should be fixed 16:13:45 <Daviey> SpamapS: hah 16:13:55 <Daviey> jjohansen: oh great! Can you update the bug task? :) 16:14:11 <Daviey> zul: tracking, bug 901881? 16:14:12 <zul> Daviey: fix was uploaded this morning 16:14:12 <ubottu> Launchpad bug 901881 in glance (Ubuntu) "nova and glance should depend on python-keystone" [Low,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/901881 16:14:14 <jjohansen> Daviey: yep, sorry 16:14:21 <zul> Daviey: yep 16:14:34 <Daviey> zul: bug 959610 ? 16:14:35 <ubottu> Launchpad bug 959610 in Keystone "keystone is not logging" [Low,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/959610 16:14:41 <Daviey> jjohansen: Thanks! 16:14:57 <zul> fix has been proposed 16:15:01 <Daviey> super! 16:15:27 <Daviey> Soo... We are tracking a bunch of MIR's.. but firstly.. is there anything not being tracked which are purely b1 critical ? 16:15:40 <Daviey> As in a release blocker for B1 only.. ie, needs fixing this week 16:15:49 <SpamapS> B2 16:15:53 <Daviey> err, yeah 16:16:05 <Daviey> SpamapS: I'd like to jump in a time machine :) 16:16:14 <hallyn> well the lxc apparmor stuff is close to that... 16:16:54 <SpamapS> If juju's support for subordinates lands this week, on time, I'll be filing a fairly late FFE for B2 for all the new stuff in juju. 16:17:06 <Daviey> hallyn: how is it progressing? 16:17:25 <hallyn> Daviey: it's sort of whack-a-mole right now. 16:17:25 <Daviey> SpamapS: Are you tracking it's development and testing closely ? 16:17:31 <hallyn> so i don't know if we're one step away, or not 16:17:39 <Daviey> SpamapS: does it change charm format at all? 16:17:44 <Daviey> hallyn: :( 16:17:47 <hallyn> but, i guess it can go in after next freeze if need be 16:18:10 <Daviey> hallyn: can you keep me posted on trajectory ? 16:18:22 <SpamapS> Daviey: no, but a bootstrapped env from the current one will fail to launch once the distro is updated because of the changes which allow you to reboot machines. 16:18:24 <hallyn> Daviey: ok 16:18:31 <Daviey> smoser: Do you know if the cloud locale image issue was resolved now? 16:18:41 <Daviey> SpamapS: ok 16:18:41 <smoser> not resolved. 16:18:46 <smoser> its working as expected. 16:18:59 <SpamapS> Daviey: the charm spec has not changed, but juju is more strict on types .. so if there are string type config items that have boolean or int defaults, that will fail... 16:19:02 <Daviey> smoser: Yes, the bug is bugging as expected. 16:19:24 <smoser> i left that in utlemming's hands. 16:19:40 <smoser> there is good explanation (i think) in his MP at https://code.launchpad.net/~utlemming/cloud-init/cloud-init.lc_all/+merge/97768 16:20:06 <Daviey> I need to follow up with infinity about bug 759545.. would really like to get that at beta2-ish 16:20:08 <ubottu> Launchpad bug 759545 in grub2 (Ubuntu Precise) "user prompted to update unmodified grub configuration during Ubuntu server upgrade" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/759545 16:20:57 <Daviey> Okay... Any other bugs which MUST be resolved before release? 16:21:05 <Daviey> (that are not being tracked) 16:21:08 <Daviey> (final release) 16:21:14 <hallyn> final release? 16:21:31 <zul> i just got bitten by this one: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/upstart/+bug/936667 16:21:32 <ubottu> Launchpad bug 936667 in upstart (Ubuntu) "Upstart early job logging causes boot failure for systems with no initramfs (error is "No available ptys")" [High,Confirmed] 16:21:37 <Daviey> hallyn: You know we release this stuff, right? :) 16:21:42 <hallyn> doh 16:22:15 <Daviey> jodh: how is bug 936667 looking? 16:22:39 <smoser> zul, that has a solution, right? 16:22:51 <zul> smoser: it has a bzr branch attached to it 16:22:53 <smoser> maybe we just need to get james to poke at it. 16:22:55 <smoser> right. 16:23:02 <Daviey> james = jodh 16:23:18 <Daviey> i guess jodh is afk. 16:23:26 <smoser> (but if you're running into it, zul, you're doing it wrong ... you shouldn't be using the tarball cloud images on openstack) 16:23:34 <Daviey> Okay... a new addition this meeting.... BLUEPRINT TIME \o/ 16:23:41 <zul> smoser: gah? 16:23:50 <smoser> use the full disk images. 16:23:56 <smoser> or just type 'cloud-publish-ubuntu' 16:24:02 <zul> ok 16:24:05 <smoser> err... i guess you have to add '--disk' 16:24:18 <Daviey> #link http://status.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-precise/#Servercloud 16:24:29 <arosales> How should we step through the blueprints? 16:24:36 <Daviey> zul: does openvswitch still need to be in main? 16:24:41 <arosales> Priority and Completing? 16:24:44 <jodh> Daviey: it's fixed in upstream. will hopefully get into Ubuntu Thu/Fri, but may be safer to say Monday as updating init on Friday isn't optimal ;-) 16:24:47 <zul> Daviey: no i dont think so 16:24:50 <Daviey> arosales: want to take this? 16:25:19 <Daviey> jodh: Sounds too conservative to me... :) if it compiles, ship it, right? 16:25:30 <jodh> Daviey: errrr... 16:25:51 <arosales> Daviey: sure, just want to discuss how we should identify the blueprints we should discuss here 16:25:56 <arosales> I am looking at http://status.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-precise/ubuntu-server.html 16:26:09 <arosales> and sorting by Priority and Completion 16:26:28 <Daviey> arosales: go for it :) 16:27:01 <arosales> roger that 16:27:03 <arosales> https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/servercloud-p-orchestra 16:27:14 <arosales> 50% Essential 16:27:44 <arosales> roaksoax: working on MIRs? 16:28:05 <roaksoax> arosales: when we MIR maas, we'll mir those dependencies 16:28:17 <arosales> roaksoax: ok 16:28:20 <arosales> https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/servercloud-p-openstack 16:28:38 <arosales> zul: Daviey: looks like packaging is in progress 16:28:45 <arosales> also waiting on some MIRs, correct? 16:28:53 <Daviey> arosales: yes 16:28:57 <Daviey> that is the primary risk atm 16:29:12 <zul> arosales: right 16:29:23 <arosales> ok 16:29:37 <arosales> https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/other-p-qa-standard-sru-testing 16:29:45 <arosales> 0% Essential 16:30:15 <Daviey> 'Essential' :) 16:30:18 <arosales> looks like qa team mostly though 16:30:35 * arosales looking at Highs 16:30:54 <arosales> https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/servercloud-p-hdp-hadoop 16:31:07 <arosales> I think jamespage is making good progress here with BigTop 16:31:33 <jamespage> I'm likely to land hadoop 1.0.2 and hbase 0.92.1 into PPA's in the next 24 hrs or so 16:31:48 <jamespage> but other than that looking OK 16:31:54 <arosales> cool, thanks jamespage 16:31:55 <arosales> https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/community-cloud-portal-growth 16:32:23 <arosales> I think smoser and utlemming have been working on updating the cloud image pages. 16:32:43 <arosales> https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/servercloud-p-openstack-charms 16:32:47 <SpamapS> arosales: I believe that is more about cloud.ubuntu.com 16:33:02 <arosales> SpamapS: ah, ok 16:33:21 <smoser> yeah, i have not done anythign on cloud.ubuntu.com, but utlemming did make cloud-images.ubuntu.com look purdy 16:33:21 <arosales> Daviey: is the charms also blocking on MIRs? 16:33:46 <arosales> Daviey: same thing with https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/servercloud-p-openstack-testing 16:34:22 <arosales> I think utlemming had a few todos on cloud.ubuntu.com, I'll catch up with him later 16:34:35 <arosales> https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/servercloud-p-juju-charm-testing 16:34:46 <Daviey> arosales: no 16:34:51 <arosales> m_3: SpamapS: how is testing against different providers going? 16:35:02 <Daviey> arosales: charms are irrelevant to MIR/archive work 16:35:21 <SpamapS> arosales: everything is stalled on merging my JUJU_DEFAULT_NS changes into juju 16:35:55 <arosales> Looks like adam_g (who is away) has some todos for charming 16:36:01 <arosales> on openstack 16:36:13 <Daviey> arosales: I'll dig through them later with him. 16:36:15 <SpamapS> Went from a one line change to parsing out series, user and schema.. kind of got ridiculous 16:36:17 <arosales> ok 16:36:33 <SpamapS> so hazmat has taken that on 16:36:38 <SpamapS> hopefully Atlas doesn't shrug ;) 16:36:44 <arosales> SpamapS: any eta on getting that in? 16:36:51 <arosales> from hazmat? 16:36:54 <SpamapS> arosales: no 16:36:56 <arosales> ok 16:37:01 <arosales> :-( 16:37:05 <SpamapS> I'm staying out of their hair until subordinates land 16:37:24 <SpamapS> arosales: I can do it with a wrapper.. so I"m not totally blocked 16:37:33 <SpamapS> arosales: and that spec doesn't really have any time pressure 16:37:46 <m_3> arosales: just starting testing against other provider today... summit's pertty much wrapped... yay! 16:37:56 <arosales> good to hear :-) 16:38:03 <arosales> that covers the high and essentials 16:38:20 * arosales skimming mediums . . 16:38:54 <arosales> Any other blueprints others would like to discuss? 16:39:32 <arosales> https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/servercloud-p-cloud-power-management 16:39:43 <arosales> has a few remaining todos for aquette 16:40:09 <arosales> Daviey: progress ok on that one? 16:40:15 <Daviey> arosales: no 16:40:19 <Daviey> arosales: mostly dropped 16:40:42 <arosales> defer? 16:40:45 <Daviey> arosales: an excellent candidate for next cycle tho :) 16:40:50 <arosales> ok 16:40:55 <Daviey> arosales: Yes, but i wanted to speak to the spec owner first. 16:40:56 <arosales> Any other blueprints? 16:41:05 <Daviey> Nothing to declare. 16:41:07 <arosales> Daviey: sounds good 16:41:15 <arosales> ok, those are the ones that jumped out at me. 16:41:36 <Daviey> thanks arosales 16:41:51 <Daviey> #topic Ubuntu Server Team Events 16:42:06 <Daviey> Too early to mention openstack summit? 16:42:17 <arosales> POSSCon 16:42:25 <arosales> I think jcastro is going to be there 16:42:39 <arosales> m_3 came back from MountainWestruby 16:42:46 <Daviey> 16th-20th April, Many people will be in San Fransisco, for Openstack Design Summit and Conference 16:42:51 <Daviey> any others? 16:43:10 <Daviey> #topic Weekly Updates & Questions for the QA Team 16:43:20 <Daviey> How is our QA looking? 16:43:33 <Daviey> jamespage: Openstack QA lab back to live 'n kicking? 16:43:41 <jamespage> Daviey: almost 16:43:49 <Daviey> jamespage: ETA? 16:44:10 <jamespage> hopefully today 16:44:14 <Daviey> jamespage: \o/ 16:44:18 <jamespage> :-) 16:44:22 <Daviey> Anything else relevant for QA at this part? 16:44:35 <Daviey> (smoke testing would be appreciated by all, as we run up to B2) 16:44:46 <Daviey> #topic Weekly Updates & Questions for the Kernel Team (smb) 16:44:54 <Daviey> hey smb o/ 16:44:57 <smb> hi 16:45:01 <Daviey> smb: How is our lovely kernel? 16:45:10 <Daviey> smoser: Is this your section? 16:45:15 <smb> Daviey, Always geting better 16:45:19 <Daviey> smb: \o/ 16:45:20 <smoser> i dont reallyhave any thing for smb 16:45:29 <smb> Not much from me either 16:45:30 <smoser> although, i bothered hiim about a system with btfs 16:45:32 <smb> Just one note 16:45:42 <smb> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ipxe/+bug/948323 16:45:43 <ubottu> Launchpad bug 948323 in ipxe (Ubuntu) "Rom images for e1000 and ne2k missing vendor and device id" [Low,Confirmed] 16:45:48 <Daviey> smb: Did you have a chance to look at bug 960311? 16:45:49 <ubottu> Launchpad bug 960311 in linux (Ubuntu) "Networking on Dell PowerEdge R300 with Broadcom Corporation NetXtreme BCM5722 Gigabit Ethernet PCI Express is not functional" [High,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/960311 16:46:07 <smb> Think the change is in our delta and maybe lynxman could verify that... 16:46:14 <smoser> generally, i would like someone from the kernel team to look at why a system is so slow during 'apt-get upgrade' usin btrfs root. (ie, 180 packags install took like 100 minutes , after download). 16:46:29 <Daviey> smb / hallyn: We've gone our own way with ipxe... 16:46:40 <Daviey> we have a newer version than Debian, and i suspect they might not have that bug 16:46:40 <smb> Daviey, yes and I deffered until we have more info 16:47:00 <SpamapS> smb: try it with 'eatmydata' .. probably fsync problems 16:47:13 <Daviey> smb: If you require more support to get this in, give me a shout at any time.. ok? 16:47:20 * smb avoids btrfs actually 16:47:26 <smb> This helps too... :-P 16:47:36 <Daviey> heh 16:47:50 <Daviey> smb: Did you manage to look at the bug i punted you shortly before the meeting? 16:47:51 <hallyn> Daviey: smb: oh, you're saying we should go ahead and push? 16:47:58 <hallyn> (For ipxe) 16:48:11 <hallyn> if so, smb, please feel free. I trust you've done gobloads of testing :) 16:48:18 <smb> hallyn, Maybe not as indipendant but when ther eis something anyway 16:48:25 <Daviey> hallyn: I think so... based on the fact we already have a huge delta. 16:48:27 <smb> Daviey, already answered that in the stream :) 16:48:44 <smb> Daviey, I looked at the bug but it has not much info in it 16:48:57 <smb> Daviey, Beside a message saying likely a firmware issue 16:49:11 <smb> Daviey, Would be nice to know whether it ever worked 16:49:54 <Daviey> otp 16:50:12 <Daviey> smb: right! 16:50:24 <Daviey> Thanks smb ! 16:50:32 <Daviey> anything else for kernel? 16:50:38 <smb> hallyn, I did some test compiles and things seemed to move into the right places (ipxe) 16:51:13 <smb> And hope nothing else depends on the other link -names (the names for the kvm part remain the samee) 16:51:20 <hallyn> smb: please feel free to push. you have the rights? 16:51:29 <smb> hallyn, still no ;) 16:51:35 <Daviey> smb: you suck :) 16:51:52 <Daviey> smb: Get upload access! :) 16:51:53 <smb> Daviey, I know, not to be trusted for such things 16:51:57 <Daviey> heh 16:52:01 <Daviey> incorrect. 16:52:15 <Daviey> right, thanks smb for giving us a lovely kernel 16:52:50 <smb> Daviey, I assume the path to become core-dev is to ask people to sponsor so often until they become bored and vote for you... ;) 16:53:16 <Daviey> smb: :) 16:53:24 <Daviey> okay, best move on.. thanls 16:53:33 <Daviey> #topic Weekly Updates & Questions regarding Ubuntu ARM Server (rbasak) 16:54:40 <Daviey> Hmm.. moving on 16:54:51 <Daviey> #topic Open Discussion 16:55:23 <jamespage> o/ 16:55:34 <jamespage> zentyal has been accepted into precise! 16:55:48 <Daviey> \o/ 16:55:52 <Daviey> Good work jamespage 16:55:54 <jamespage> EOM 16:55:59 <Daviey> anything else? 16:56:07 <jamespage> good work bencer who did the packaing 16:56:56 <Daviey> \o/ 16:57:05 <SpamapS> yah, hooray for zentyal! 16:57:09 <Daviey> #topic Announce next meeting date and time 16:57:28 <Daviey> Tuesday 2012-03-27 at 1600 UTC 16:57:31 <Daviey> #endmeeting