21:02:01 <kees> #startmeeting 21:02:01 <meetingology> Meeting started Mon Mar 19 21:02:01 2012 UTC. The chair is kees. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology. 21:02:01 <meetingology> 21:02:01 <meetingology> Available commands: #accept #accepted #action #agree #agreed #chair #commands #endmeeting #endvote #halp #help #idea #info #link #lurk #meetingname #meetingtopic #nick #progress #rejected #replay #restrictlogs #save #startmeeting #subtopic #topic #unchair #undo #unlurk #vote #voters #votesrequired 21:02:07 <cjwatson> micahg: I wasn't saying it was an inherent consequence of google calendar, but rather that it's a consequence of the calendar as currently set up 21:02:27 <micahg> fair enough 21:02:28 <kees> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TechnicalBoardAgenda 21:02:56 <cjwatson> I didn't fill out the actions, best check the minutes for that, sorry 21:03:06 * kees goes to find minutes, one sec 21:04:18 <kees> cjwatson: hrm, where did the minutes end up? I don't see them on ubuntu-devel 21:04:37 <kees> skipping for now... 21:04:41 <cjwatson> devel-announce 21:04:50 <cjwatson> https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel-announce/2012-March/000942.html 21:05:31 <kees> [topic] Soren agreed to send mail regarding meeting time changes. 21:05:32 <kees> er 21:05:39 <kees> [topic] Action review 21:05:40 <kees> Soren agreed to send mail regarding meeting time changes. 21:05:58 <kees> I didn't see that go to tech-board list. is that still outstanding? 21:06:21 <soren> Yeah. 21:06:32 <kees> okay 21:06:44 <kees> [action] Soren to send mail regarding meeting time changes. 21:06:44 * meetingology Soren to send mail regarding meeting time changes. 21:07:14 <kees> I don't see any other actions in the minutes. 21:07:32 <kees> [topic] Brain storm review 21:07:39 <kees> I failed miserably at this. 21:07:48 <kees> there was discussion about how we could improve the process. 21:08:10 <kees> do we want to tie this to releases? or mid-release time frames? 21:10:05 <cjwatson> well, a few things there, imho 21:10:15 <cjwatson> we want it to be at a point when people aren't in crunch mode 21:10:18 <kees> right 21:10:32 <cjwatson> we also want it to be at a point when people can say "oh yes, great idea, I've implemented that for the next release" 'cos that feels good 21:10:50 <cjwatson> so I'd like it to be somewhere in the feature development slot 21:11:57 <kees> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PrecisePangolin/ReleaseSchedule <- before "Feature Definition Freeze" ? 21:12:26 <cjwatson> well, that's for big stuff requiring lots of planning, I think it's fine for this to be later, personally 21:14:02 <kees> hrm, is it worth doing before UDS? 21:14:13 <kees> there aren't a lot of good places to sneak this in 21:16:13 <kees> well, I propose we have it due the week before Debian Import Freeze. 21:17:33 <kees> thoughts? 21:17:42 <soren> I have no problem with that. 21:18:19 <kees> okay, I'll send an email to the list with that mentioned. 21:18:36 <kees> [action] propose slot in devel cycle for brainstorm feedback 21:18:36 * meetingology propose slot in devel cycle for brainstorm feedback 21:18:41 <cjwatson> ok 21:18:44 <kees> [topic] Scan the mailing list archive for anything we missed (standing item) 21:18:53 <ScottK> Is there stuff in Brainstorm that's actionable and worth doing? Admittedly it was quite awhile ago, but I once looked through it pretty deeply looking for something I could say "Nice idea, I'd like to spend some time on that" and came up dry. 21:19:00 <ScottK> (sorry that was late) 21:19:20 <kees> ScottK: that was my experience too, which is what contributed to my epic fail this time around 21:19:49 <cjwatson> ScottK: the last time I did a TB review it wasn't too bad 21:20:03 <ScottK> OK. 21:20:09 <cjwatson> there were certainly actionable and useful things there, although a certain amount of it was indeed not actionable 21:20:32 <kees> I don't see anything on the list that has gone unaddressed. 21:20:33 <cjwatson> restricting to the top ten helps, as does not having to restrict to things only the person looking for things can do 21:20:47 <cjwatson> (I suspect the trail goes dry not desperately far below the top ten, but) 21:20:57 <danel> hello I'm new to this room 21:21:12 <danel> michael rawson recommended me to the room(known as mg&tl from the forums) 21:21:40 <kees> hi danel, this channel is used for regular ubuntu meetings. (and we're in the middle of the technical board meeting currently.) 21:21:56 <kees> [topic] Check up on community bugs (standing item) 21:22:22 <stgraber> what's the status of Ubuntu Studio regarding LTS status? 21:22:40 <kees> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-community/+bug/252368 and https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-community/+bug/174375 are still there with no more action. 21:22:42 <ubottu> Launchpad bug 252368 in Launchpad itself "Automatically associate DD and DM accounts with GPG keys in keyring packages to allow DDs to use the Launchpad Email interface" [Low,Triaged] 21:22:43 <ubottu> Launchpad bug 174375 in Launchpad itself "Distribution drivers permissions may need redesign" [Low,Triaged] 21:23:02 <kees> stgraber: according to meeting minutes, tb asked for more details. 21:23:11 <kees> stgraber: I haven't seen anything about it since the last meeting, though. 21:24:02 <stgraber> yeah, I seem to remember we were supposed to get more details by mail to the mailing list 21:25:53 <kees> [topic] AOB 21:27:32 <kees> Any one have anything to bring up? 21:27:35 <mdz> nope 21:27:38 <cjwatson> not I 21:27:38 <kees> chair? 21:27:39 <stgraber> nope 21:27:45 <mdz> I think I'm next in sequence? 21:27:46 <soren> nope 21:28:08 <kees> okay, mdz is chair for the Apr 2nd meeting. 21:28:46 <kees> alright, thanks everyone! 21:28:53 <kees> #endmeeting