00:05:24 <Pendulum> #startmeeting 00:05:24 <meetingology> Meeting started Fri Mar 16 00:05:24 2012 UTC. The chair is Pendulum. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology. 00:05:24 <meetingology> 00:05:24 <meetingology> Available commands: #accept #accepted #action #agree #agreed #chair #commands #endmeeting #endvote #halp #help #idea #info #link #lurk #meetingname #meetingtopic #nick #progress #rejected #replay #restrictlogs #save #startmeeting #subtopic #topic #unchair #undo #unlurk #vote #voters #votesrequired 00:06:28 <Pendulum> #voters pleia2 greg-g Pendulum beuno cyphermox 00:06:28 <meetingology> Current voters: Pendulum beuno cyphermox greg-g pleia2 00:06:43 <Pendulum> Hello and welcome to the Ubuntu Membership Review Board for the Americas meeting for March 15, 2012. The wiki page for the Review Board is available here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Membership/RegionalBoards/Americas 00:06:47 <Pendulum> We will attempt to get through all of the applicants that have added themselves to that list before today's meeting. If we are unable to make it through the entire list due to time constraints, then at the next meeting we will pick up where we left off. 00:06:51 <Pendulum> The format for the meeting is as follows: We will go through the list of applicants one by one, by date of application (FIFO). 00:06:54 <Pendulum> Each applicant should introduce themselves (1-5 sentences) and provide links to their Ubuntu Wiki page. After the introduction the members of the Membership Review Board will review the pages and, if needed, ask the applicant further questions. 00:06:58 <Pendulum> During this time it is encouraged for other members of the community to show their support for the applicant. Do not be alarmed if the members of the Membership Review Board are quiet during this time; they are most likely reading wiki/launchpad/forum/other pages and deciding how they are going to vote. 00:07:03 <Pendulum> When the board is ready to vote, they will publicly vote in the channel with either +1, 0, or -1 (for membership, abstain, and against membership, respectively). If the sum of those numbers is positive, then the applicant is now an official Ubuntu member! (feel free congratulate them!) 00:07:08 <Pendulum> Now, with any further ado, lets get started with the first applicant... 00:07:37 <Pendulum> It looks like caravena isn't here 00:07:49 <Pendulum> bladernr_: are you here? 00:07:57 <bladernr_> Yep 00:08:01 <Pendulum> great! 00:08:01 <bladernr_> Hi :) 00:08:15 * hggdh cheers for bladernr_ 00:08:17 <bladernr_> ready? 00:08:21 <Pendulum> #topic Application of bladernr_ for Membership 00:08:22 <greg-g> please introduce yourself :) 00:08:30 <bladernr_> Hi, I'm Jeff. I've been a linux user since the mid-90s, and ubuntu since 8.04. I currently do a lot of filing, triaging and resolving bugs that involve Checkbox and subsequently the Ubuntu Friendly program. I'm also one of the Checkbox developers and write patches and test scripts for that. I focus a lot on testing Ubuntu on server hardware and writing test cases for servers. I've led several sessions and UDS over 00:08:30 <bladernr_> the last couple years relating to certificaiton and server interests. I also like to help out with QA, especially with ISO testing, filing bugs related to that effort and trying to make Ubuntu better for users. I try to view things from the viewpoint of the first time Linux user when I test. I tend to stick more to mailing lists than forums just because keeping up with forums can quickly get out of control! I previ 00:08:31 <bladernr_> ously taught Intro to Linux at the local Community College as a way to give back to the community, and I always gave my students Ubuntu CDs to use.o/ I'm also a Ham and a member of Ubuntu Hams and doing testing and such with Ubuntu on ARM. 00:08:37 <bladernr_> Wiki: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/JeffLaneyes 00:08:51 <bladernr_> :) 00:08:57 <pleia2> "That Guy Who Forced a Respin of Lucid on Release Day" hah! :D 00:09:16 <bladernr_> that should have been https://wiki.ubuntu.com/JeffLane sorry for the borked link 00:09:19 * hggdh remembers this episode 00:09:38 <pleia2> this past weekend I did my first iso testing *and* bought a laptop partially based off a good score on Ubuntu Friendly :) 00:09:45 <bladernr_> yay! 00:10:05 <bladernr_> I like community review sites like that. I used to live off linux-laptops.net when it was regularly updated. 00:10:10 <bladernr_> I'm glad people find UF useful 00:11:22 * skaet appreciates his ISO testing work too. :) 00:11:47 <bladernr_> skaet, thanks :) it's fun... I like breaking things 00:11:51 <pleia2> thanks for having such a thorough wiki page! 00:11:59 <pleia2> I don't really have any questions 00:12:06 <greg-g> me neither, good wiki page :) 00:12:21 <greg-g> took me a while to scan it all :) 00:12:23 <bladernr_> Thangs pleia2, greg-g I usually worry about being too verbose 00:12:32 <bladernr_> I tend to be set on -vvv 00:12:37 <pleia2> hehe 00:12:39 <greg-g> bladernr_: I'm a fan of verbose, I was an Anthropology undergrad ;) 00:12:59 <greg-g> (which means I read way too many overly verbose explanations of things) 00:13:34 <Pendulum> okay, I think we're ready to vote now 00:14:06 <Pendulum> #voters elky greg-g pleia2 Pendulum cyphermox 00:14:06 <meetingology> Current voters: Pendulum beuno cyphermox elky greg-g pleia2 00:14:08 <pleia2> +1 00:14:15 <pleia2> oh 00:14:16 <pleia2> hehe 00:14:17 <Pendulum> pleia2: haven't started the vote yet :P 00:14:46 <Pendulum> #vote Vote on Membership for Jeff Lane 00:14:46 <meetingology> Please vote on: Vote on Membership for Jeff Lane 00:14:46 <meetingology> Public votes can be registered by saying +1, +0 or -1 in channel, (private votes don't work yet, but when they do it will be by messaging the channel followed by +1/-1/+0 to me) 00:14:53 <Pendulum> +1 00:14:53 <meetingology> +1 received from Pendulum 00:14:56 <greg-g> +1 00:14:56 <meetingology> +1 received from greg-g 00:14:59 <elky> +1 00:14:59 <meetingology> +1 received from elky 00:15:07 <elky> ooh i wonder what pleia2 will choose 00:15:10 <pleia2> +1 00:15:10 <meetingology> +1 received from pleia2 00:15:14 <elky> :P 00:15:17 <pleia2> I got excited 00:15:18 <pleia2> hehe 00:15:51 <cyphermox> +1 00:15:51 <meetingology> +1 received from cyphermox 00:15:57 <Pendulum> #endvote 00:15:57 <meetingology> Voting ended on: Vote on Membership for Jeff Lane 00:15:57 <meetingology> Votes for:5 Votes against:0 Abstentions:0 00:15:57 <meetingology> Motion carried 00:16:14 <Pendulum> Congratulations bladernr_! 00:16:22 <hggdh> GO bladernr_ !!! 00:16:26 <bladernr_> woot! Thanks everyone! I don't remember being this nervous, at least not in a long time 00:16:29 <bladernr_> :) 00:16:44 <cyphermox> bladernr_: there was no reason for it :) 00:16:58 <cyphermox> bladernr_: don't forget to add your blog to planet if you have one :) 00:17:01 <Pendulum> okay, moving on since we have quite a few applicants 00:17:03 <pleia2> welcome bladernr_ :) 00:17:14 <Pendulum> It looks like fitoschido isn't here 00:17:18 <Pendulum> skellat: are you here? 00:17:21 <skellat> Here 00:17:39 <Pendulum> #topic Stephen Kellat for Membership 00:17:42 <jrgifford> YAY SKELLAT! :D 00:17:46 <skellat> Hello, my name is Stephen Michael Kellat and I am the Head Writer at Erie Looking Productions. 00:17:53 <skellat> I produce the weekly podcast for the Ohio LoCo and try to serve as a resource within the LoCo for experience with more exotic architectures like the SheevaPlug and BeagleBoard. 00:18:00 <skellat> I am also fairly active on my LoCo's e-mail list and have not had luck with efforts to reinvigorate our forum presence. 00:18:06 <skellat> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/skellat 00:18:07 <jrgifford> And he's a active Ohio LoCo guy. :) 00:18:24 <Unit193> Harder for him as well since he's out in the middle of nowhere. 00:18:29 <pleia2> skellat: ooh, can I lure you over to doing some Xubuntu ISO testing before our beta2? :) 00:19:02 <skellat> pleia2: Quite possibly now that I've got a chip I can swap for the current one. My BeagleBoard is on Xubuntu 11.10 as is. 00:19:54 <skellat> Unit193: Ashtabula isn't the middle of nowhere. It's just the extreme outer fringe geographically of the State of Ohio. :-) 00:20:26 <jrgifford> skellat, Unit193: Same difference ;) 00:21:03 <skellat> jrgifford: What can I say? We've got a big state and LoCo members who are very far flung throughout it. 00:21:03 <Unit193> (Going off member placement map) 00:21:04 <greg-g> skellat: just wondering why there aren't any testimonials on your wiki? I know Ohio is hard place for people, but.. ;) 00:21:23 <jrgifford> OH dangit, did I forget to write mine in?! crap. 00:21:25 <skellat> greg-g: jrgifford and unit193 chose to attend in-person tonight 00:21:31 * greg-g nods 00:21:33 <Unit193> Yes it did. 00:22:21 <Pendulum> skellat: How often does the podcast come out? (there aren't dates on the episodes) 00:23:00 <skellat> Normally weekly. There was a death in the family Sunday and my day job had an all-night work event so there isn't an episode for the 12th. 00:23:24 <jrgifford> consider my presence a testimonial please. :) He's been doing stuff in the loco, is active on the mailing list and is a friendly guy. 00:23:32 <greg-g> thanks jrgifford :) 00:23:34 <skellat> When paultag and I first set up the podcast posting form on the team's drupal site we didn't choose to go with dates but instead episode numbers. 00:23:56 <skellat> Unlike Ubuntu UK's program, we don't have it divided into seasons 00:24:49 * greg-g nods 00:25:12 <skellat> Pendulum: We've had multiple calls for feedback from around the state to air. If I get it, it airs. With everybody spread out so much it gets a bit hard planning out shows. 00:27:50 * jokerdino joins the meeting, without much purpose and reason though. 00:29:04 <Pendulum> okay, we're ready to vote 00:29:27 <Pendulum> #vote Vote on Stephen Kellat for Membership 00:29:27 <meetingology> Please vote on: Vote on Stephen Kellat for Membership 00:29:27 <meetingology> Public votes can be registered by saying +1, +0 or -1 in channel, (private votes don't work yet, but when they do it will be by messaging the channel followed by +1/-1/+0 to me) 00:29:51 <greg-g> +1 00:29:51 <meetingology> +1 received from greg-g 00:29:53 <Pendulum> +1 00:29:53 <meetingology> +1 received from Pendulum 00:30:16 <elky> +1 00:30:16 <meetingology> +1 received from elky 00:30:37 <pleia2> +` 00:30:46 <pleia2> +1 00:30:46 <meetingology> +1 received from pleia2 00:30:57 <pleia2> phone :) 00:31:00 <cyphermox> +1 00:31:00 <meetingology> +1 received from cyphermox 00:31:09 <Pendulum> #endvote 00:31:09 <meetingology> Voting ended on: Vote on Stephen Kellat for Membership 00:31:09 <meetingology> Votes for:5 Votes against:0 Abstentions:0 00:31:09 <meetingology> Motion carried 00:31:18 <jokerdino> congrats skellat ! 00:31:19 <Pendulum> Congratulations and welcome, skellat! 00:31:24 <jrgifford> congrats skellat ! 00:31:29 <skellat> I thank the board for their vote in favor tonight. 00:31:32 <Unit193> Congrats, skellat!! 00:31:48 <skellat> Pendulum jrgifford Unit193 jokerdino Thank you for the congratulations 00:31:54 <Pendulum> Next up is wendar 00:32:01 <wendar> here 00:32:07 <Pendulum> #topic Allison Rnadal for Membership 00:32:21 <Pendulum> wendar: please introduce yourself 00:32:31 <wendar> Hi, Allison here. I'm a C and dynamic language (Python, Perl, Ruby, etc) developer. I've been involved in Ubuntu since 2005, and my first UDS was 2006 in Mountain View. I work on packaging, architecture, and healthy relations between volunteers, employees, upstreams, and downstreams. 00:32:38 <wendar> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AllisonRandal 00:33:45 <greg-g> wendar: as a side note: Thanks for your cat herding with the Harmony Agreements drafting process :) 00:33:56 <Pendulum> wendar: I apologize for misspelling your name in the topic just now. 00:34:00 <ajmitch> it seems to be a common theme that people are surprised that wendar isn't a member already 00:34:01 <wendar> greg-g: glad to help :) 00:34:10 <wendar> Pendulum: no worries 00:34:56 <greg-g> wendar: I don't really have any substantial questions un/fortunately 00:34:57 <greg-g> :) 00:35:49 * stgraber waves and highly recommends a +1 for wendar 00:35:57 <Pendulum> wendar: What's your favourite thing to do outside of your tech work? 00:36:29 * skaet waves and echoes stgraber's +1 ;) 00:36:39 <wendar> Pendulum: Hmmm... it's a toss up between watching English mysteries, baking gluten-free tasty treats, and astrophysics. 00:36:58 * ajmitch has already put his +1 on the wiki :) 00:37:40 <elky> Baking and astrophysics. I think you just won The Internet. 00:37:47 <greg-g> hah 00:37:52 <wendar> elky: heh :) 00:41:44 <Pendulum> #vote Vote on Allison Randal for Membership 00:41:44 <meetingology> Please vote on: Vote on Allison Randal for Membership 00:41:44 <meetingology> Public votes can be registered by saying +1, +0 or -1 in channel, (private votes don't work yet, but when they do it will be by messaging the channel followed by +1/-1/+0 to me) 00:41:47 <Pendulum> +1 00:41:47 <meetingology> +1 received from Pendulum 00:41:48 <greg-g> +1 00:41:48 <meetingology> +1 received from greg-g 00:41:54 <elky> +1 00:41:54 <meetingology> +1 received from elky 00:41:54 <cyphermox> +1 00:41:54 <meetingology> +1 received from cyphermox 00:42:26 <Pendulum> #endvote 00:42:26 <meetingology> Voting ended on: Vote on Allison Randal for Membership 00:42:26 <meetingology> Votes for:4 Votes against:0 Abstentions:0 00:42:26 <meetingology> Motion carried 00:42:31 <elky> yay! 00:42:33 <Pendulum> wendar: Congratualtions and welcome! 00:42:40 <wendar> thanks all! :) 00:42:46 <jokerdino> congrats wendar ! 00:42:51 <cyphermox> congrats wendar 00:42:52 <ajmitch> wendar: congratulations 00:43:06 * jokerdino goes off to grab something for breakfast. 00:43:17 <Pendulum> vibhav: are you here? 00:43:20 <vibhav> yes 00:43:21 <JoseeAntonioR> Congratularions, wendar! 00:43:42 <skaet> wendar, congratulations! :) 00:44:09 <greg-g> congrats indeed! 00:44:12 <Pendulum> #topic Membership for Vibhav Pant 00:44:14 <greg-g> (and sorry for the delay) 00:44:18 <Pendulum> vibhav: please introduce yourself 00:44:21 <vibhav> ok 00:44:41 <vibhav> Hi everybody, I am Vibhav Pant, a 14 year old padwan living in Dehradun, India 00:45:01 <vibhav> I have been using Ubuntu since 6.10, but got the hang of Ubuntu from 7.04 00:45:22 <stgraber> wendar: congrats 00:45:43 <vibhav> I have been translating Ubuntu to Hindi for the past 6 months and have recently started traanslation for en_GB 00:45:51 <vibhav> (but thats simply cupy paste) 00:45:55 <vibhav> copy* 00:46:41 <vibhav> I have collaborated with fellow Hindi Translators to start a translation Drive to rectify common translation errors and got massive response 00:47:15 <vibhav> We are also working on improving the Wiki page and creating a list of replacemnet words for Hindi 00:47:37 <vibhav> Which can be seen on my Wiki Page 00:47:42 <vibhav> Apart from Translation 00:48:16 <vibhav> I fix small few bugs (typos and bugs fixed upstream but not brought into Ubuntu) 00:49:03 <vibhav> I also work on "Needs Packaging" and RFP bugs in Ubuntu\Debian and often package software that seems interesting to me 00:49:14 <vibhav> I have converted 6 friends to Ubuntu 00:49:38 <vibhav> and 1 of them uses it exclusively 00:49:49 <pangolin> Is this translation drive documented anywhere? 00:49:55 <vibhav> Mailing List 00:50:34 <pangolin> Could you link to it please? 00:50:56 <vibhav> sure 00:51:14 <vibhav> lemme see 00:51:50 <vibhav> https://lists.launchpad.net/ubuntu-l10n-hi/msg0003 00:51:59 <elky> Well, en -> en translations are more than copy/paste. Trash/Garbage, Color/Colour, etc... 00:52:05 <vibhav> yes 00:52:16 <vibhav> I forgot to mention that though 00:52:19 <greg-g> hmmm, that link doesn't work for me 00:52:32 <vibhav> https://lists.launchpad.net/ubuntu-l10n-hi/msg00031.html 00:52:55 <vibhav> I also test pre-release ISOs on Ubuntu for Papercuts and bugs 00:53:03 <vibhav> And try to fix them if they are easy 00:53:57 <vibhav> https://docs.google.com/document/d/14jM_vGDcBbio7ITwY_Q7JNW15eO5vrzjDWafnjehDns/edit 00:54:04 <vibhav> ^ are replacement words 00:54:52 <vibhav> I am currently learning python, which I would use for Ubuntu Development sooner 00:54:59 <vibhav> I am also working to be a MOTU 00:55:21 <cyphermox> vibhav: can you tell me more about what you've done for that? 00:56:06 <cyphermox> for instance, who you've worked with, packages you've touched; very briefly, since we're not really here to give membership based on development work :) 00:56:22 <vibhav> I know 00:57:29 <vibhav> I have packaged shc, unity-lens-bliss and indicators which are waiting approval in Debian\REVU 00:57:47 <vibhav> I am currently working on packaging ecere and sending it to Debian 00:58:12 <cyphermox> have you worked with anybody on this so far or has it been mostly on your own? 00:58:25 <vibhav> dholbach 00:58:30 <vibhav> and tumbleweed 00:59:27 <cyphermox> good 00:59:45 <vibhav> But I am focusing more on fixing bugs than translating softwareb :) 01:01:18 <vibhav> I meant packaging software and not translating it 01:01:30 <pangolin> vibhav, Why do you want to be an Ubuntu member? 01:01:47 <vibhav> It feels nice to be recognized memeber of the community 01:02:04 <Pendulum> vibhav: While we recognize that you've done quite a bit of translations work, if you can wait a little longer, a few months maybe to build up your experience and community work, please come back then. And, of course, if you're planning on going for MOTU that may be a more appropriate path to membership. 01:03:04 <vibhav> experience in terms of? 01:03:07 <greg-g> vibhav: if you have any questions about this, please feel free to email Ubuntu-membership-boards@lists.ubuntu.com 01:03:10 <elky> Knowing your limits is kind of important, too. Needing to keep a member banned from #ubuntu to stop them trying to give tech support is really not something we want to have to do. 01:03:32 <greg-g> that goes to all membership review board members for all regions, just fyi 01:04:02 <vibhav> But didn't I collaborate (As I was said to do earlier)? 01:05:13 <greg-g> vibhav: thank you for listening to our advice, but we feel you should wait a while longer and work with people a little more closely. Again, if you have any questions, feel free to email us after the meeting 01:05:32 <Pendulum> okay, moving on 01:05:36 <Pendulum> ChrisGagnon: are you here? 01:05:44 <ChrisGagnon> Pendulum: hi 01:05:49 <pangolin> vibhav, I am encouraged by your interest in packaging and bug fixing, you sought out the help of great people like dholbach and tumbleweed. i still believe you need to work longer. this is my personal opinion, but I do look forwrd to the day I can attend a meeting and give the board my +1 for your membership. Please keep up the good work. 01:05:54 <Pendulum> #topic Chris Gagnon for Membership 01:05:58 <Pendulum> ChrisGagnon: Please introduce yourself 01:06:18 <ChrisGagnon> ork for Canonical as a QA engineer in the mainstream group. 01:06:21 <ChrisGagnon> oops 01:06:27 <ChrisGagnon> I work for Canonical as a QA engineer in the mainstream group. 01:06:42 <ChrisGagnon> Started using Linux in 1998. My linux progression went from Redhat -> Mandrake -> Gentoo -> Ubuntu. I started using Kubuntu in 2006 and regular Ubuntu starting with 11.04, because I like unity-2d. 01:06:50 <greg-g> "mainstream"? 01:07:24 <ChrisGagnon> It's part of the professional services engineering group 01:07:32 <greg-g> gotcha 01:07:48 <greg-g> I just thought Ubuntu was already "mainstream" :) 01:07:57 <ChrisGagnon> hah it is 01:08:00 <ChrisGagnon> :) 01:08:20 <greg-g> so, the only one in your loco's irc channel, eh? 01:08:21 <ChrisGagnon> I don't know how they came up with the name 01:08:56 <ChrisGagnon> right now, I have people drop by every now and then, but no one is on every day. 01:09:15 * greg-g nods 01:09:21 <ChrisGagnon> irc is not popular in NH I think 01:09:39 <greg-g> is the NH team more active in other venues? (I hope) :) 01:09:58 <ChrisGagnon> It's been dead for a while and I am trying to revive it 01:10:23 <greg-g> cool, thanks for doing that 01:10:26 <ChrisGagnon> I had 8 people at the global jam last month 01:10:43 <ChrisGagnon> I think I will have more during the precise release party. 01:10:59 <greg-g> awesome, 8 ain't bad, really 01:11:10 <ChrisGagnon> my wiki link is here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ChrisGagnon 01:17:29 <Pendulum> okay, I think we're ready to vote 01:17:41 <Pendulum> #vote Chris Gagnon for Ubuntu Membership 01:17:41 <meetingology> Please vote on: Chris Gagnon for Ubuntu Membership 01:17:41 <meetingology> Public votes can be registered by saying +1, +0 or -1 in channel, (private votes don't work yet, but when they do it will be by messaging the channel followed by +1/-1/+0 to me) 01:17:44 <Pendulum> +1 01:17:44 <meetingology> +1 received from Pendulum 01:17:45 <greg-g> +1 01:17:45 <meetingology> +1 received from greg-g 01:17:47 <elky> +1 01:17:47 <meetingology> +1 received from elky 01:18:06 <elky> and i have to go, bye 01:18:06 <greg-g> We're waiting for one other board member to vote, but they wen't AFK for a minute 01:18:26 <greg-g> Unfortunately, that means this is the end of the meeting, sorry utlemming 01:19:06 <greg-g> "wen't"? I must be hungry. 01:19:34 * jokerdino is back 01:19:42 <cyphermox> +1 01:19:42 <meetingology> +1 received from cyphermox 01:19:48 <Pendulum> #endvote 01:19:48 <meetingology> Voting ended on: Chris Gagnon for Ubuntu Membership 01:19:48 <meetingology> Votes for:4 Votes against:0 Abstentions:0 01:19:48 <meetingology> Motion carried 01:20:00 <Pendulum> ChrisGagnon: Congratulations and Welcome! 01:20:00 <ChrisGagnon> \o/ 01:20:01 <greg-g> congrats ChrisGagnon ! 01:20:17 <ChrisGagnon> thanks! 01:20:17 <jokerdino> congrats ChrisGagnon 01:20:31 <cyphermox> my sincerest apologies to everyone for dragging this on 01:21:00 <utlemming> greg-g: ack 01:21:13 <Pendulum> utlemming: We're verry sorry that we can't get to your application tonight, unfortunately you happened to be at a meeting with quite a few applicants 01:21:37 <Pendulum> #end meeting 01:21:41 <Pendulum> #endmeeting