10:00:50 <head_victim> #startmeeting
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10:01:06 <head_victim> #chairs elky Destine czajkowski
10:01:24 <head_victim> In case one of us dc's we can all pick up the slack
10:01:28 <head_victim> #chair elky Destine czajkowski
10:01:28 <meetingology> Current chairs: Destine czajkowski elky head_victim
10:01:36 <amithkk> I sec
10:01:39 <jokerdino> hmm.
10:01:43 <head_victim> #voters elky Destine czajkowski head_victim
10:01:43 <meetingology> Current voters: Destine czajkowski elky head_victim
10:02:00 <head_victim> #link
10:02:01 <head_victim> <meetingology> Current chairs: Destine czajkowski elky head_victim
10:02:08 <head_victim> #link https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Membership/RegionalBoards/AsiaOceania
10:02:18 <head_victim> That's what I meant to do, if we can all look over the applicants
10:02:42 <amithkk> Its open like before right?
10:02:52 <head_victim> I can't see bonepyaesone, chrisgagnon, oscalation or bodman456 though so I guess we should start with jokerdino
10:03:07 <Destine> head_victim, guess so.
10:03:22 * jokerdino gets ready.
10:03:24 <head_victim> #topic jokerdino's membership application
10:03:35 <head_victim> #link https://wiki.ubuntu.com/jokerdino
10:03:42 <head_victim> jokerdino: please introduce yourself to the baord
10:03:52 <jokerdino> Hi, I am Barneedhar. I am a 18 years old junior college student currently studying in Singapore.
10:04:04 <jokerdino> I am widely known as jokerdino across the Internet. This is my wiki page: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/jokerdino.
10:04:21 <jokerdino> Most of my contributions have been in the Ask Ubuntu, where I mostly do the janitorial work like tidying up the current answers and answering some of the questions myself.
10:04:34 <jokerdino> When I do get bored of Ask Ubuntu, I make use of bilingual skills and translate Ubuntu into Tamil.
10:04:52 * jokerdino got excited and prepped up the whole thing beforehand.
10:05:09 <head_victim> jokerdino: good to see,
10:05:27 <czajkowski> jokerdino: nice wiki page :)
10:05:49 <jokerdino> czajkowski: Thanks for helping me with the presentation :)
10:06:00 <head_victim> Preparation always makes our task easier
10:06:08 <czajkowski> yup
10:06:09 <czajkowski> it does
10:06:13 <Destine> indeed
10:06:20 <lalatenduM> #accept
10:06:21 <czajkowski> jokerdino: are you part of any locoteams where you could help get others invovled the way you are?
10:06:54 <jokerdino> I am part of the #ubuntu-tam team but since I am out of the country, I can't manually do any help right now.
10:07:07 <oscalation> oscalation here, hope im not late
10:07:15 <jokerdino> But, I do intend to help when I get back to India.
10:07:24 <head_victim> oscalation: we're going through jokerdino right now we'll get to you in a minutre
10:07:29 <Destine> oscalation, we can deal with yours later.
10:07:40 <oscalation> head_victim, Destine thanks
10:07:47 <czajkowski> jokerdino: ok, but just keep in mind things can be done over irc to help teams.
10:08:00 <czajkowski> you do seem to have interacted with  lots of coummities so well done for that
10:08:07 <jokerdino> czajkowski: i lurk on #ubuntu-tam all the time ready to help if they actually come around. :)
10:08:20 <Destine> jokerdino, good for you.
10:08:27 <amithkk> Can I ask
10:09:05 <jokerdino> say amithkk.
10:09:13 <head_victim> Nice to see some testimonials too
10:09:27 <amithkk> Do you blog? What do you focus on blogging
10:09:28 <popey> I'd like to give a cheer for jokerdino, very friendly and helpful person both on AU and outside
10:09:39 <czajkowski> popey: thanks
10:09:48 <head_victim> As someone not overly familiar with AU, is the 4600 a high score?
10:09:51 <jokerdino> head_victim:  i am happy to have a nice community in Ask Ubuntu
10:09:55 <czajkowski> head_victim: I've no other comments or question
10:10:08 <amithkk> head_victim: For his activity period, yes
10:10:13 <jokerdino> head_victim: not to boast but that score means I am in the top 75.
10:10:21 <head_victim> jokerdino: good to know :)
10:10:29 <Destine> head_victim, i have no question now.
10:10:31 <head_victim> I also have no other questions, just took a bit to read most of the info
10:10:40 <jokerdino> and thanks popey !
10:10:42 <popey> np
10:10:44 <amithkk> Somebody missed blogging :)
10:10:57 <head_victim> #vote board members pelase vote on jokerdino's Ubuntu Membership Application
10:10:57 <meetingology> Please vote on: board members pelase vote on jokerdino's Ubuntu Membership Application
10:10:57 <meetingology> Public votes can be registered by saying +1, +0 or -1 in channel, (private votes don't work yet, but when they do it will be by messaging the channel followed by +1/-1/+0 to me)
10:11:20 <jokerdino> hah amithkk due to hectic study schedule, i haven't much time to blog much, but i do blog about Ubuntu on 2buntu.com
10:11:21 <czajkowski> +1 great wiki page and lots of activity
10:11:21 <meetingology> +1 great wiki page and lots of activity received from czajkowski
10:11:22 <elky> +1
10:11:22 <meetingology> +1 received from elky
10:11:24 <Destine> +1
10:11:24 <meetingology> +1 received from Destine
10:11:37 <head_victim> +1 nice documentation and interaction across a number of teams
10:11:37 <meetingology> +1 nice documentation and interaction across a number of teams received from head_victim
10:11:49 <head_victim> #endvote
10:11:49 <meetingology> Voting ended on: board members pelase vote on jokerdino's Ubuntu Membership Application
10:11:49 <meetingology> Votes for:4 Votes against:0 Abstentions:0
10:11:49 <meetingology> Motion carried
10:12:03 <jokerdino> Thank you. I feel appreciated. :)
10:12:03 <popey> \o/ congratulations jokerdino, keep up the great work.
10:12:04 <benonsoftware> Well done jokerdino
10:12:05 <head_victim> jokerdino: Congratulations on becoming a Ubuntu Member!
10:12:05 <amithkk> Congratz jokerdino
10:12:16 <Destine> jokerdino, congrats
10:12:19 <amithkk> You are now part of the Ubuntu Members
10:12:31 <jokerdino> Thank you all. :)
10:12:38 <amithkk> now... back to unicorns
10:12:53 <jokerdino> I am going to copy this irclog and save it for future reference :)
10:14:01 <head_victim> jokerdino: please do :)
10:14:24 <head_victim> #topic oscalation 's membership application
10:14:38 <Destine> i copied mine too. jokerdino
10:14:57 <jokerdino> hah, nice to know :D
10:15:34 <head_victim> oscalation: you have recently applied and asked to come back, to make things easier what has changed since your last application
10:16:32 <oscalation> hey head_victim and others. Im Oscalation. Ive been using ubuntu for many years. My launchpad profile can be found here https://launchpad.net/~nathan1465-5 and Wiki page here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/oscalation. I have a few testimonials. I have been active in Ubuntu Answers and Ubuntu Documentation.  I do some small Beta testing, been testing 12.04 for a while now. I enjoy using Ubuntu and helping other users online. Im slowly moving my
10:16:32 <oscalation> launchpad karma points closer to my 10k goal. In the near future I hope to meet 10k karma and increase my involvement with documentation. Major changes was that I obtained a few testimonials and did a little work on my wiki page.
10:18:31 <head_victim> oscalation: bear with us, just reading over the documentation
10:18:37 <elky> oscalation, did you see head_victim's question?
10:19:47 <oscalation> no problem. take your time. Yes. Changes since last meeting was that I have corrected my wiki page, increased my activitys in Ubuntu answers, obtain some testimonials to account for my involvement's.
10:20:08 <elky> but you're still not using askubuntu?
10:20:30 <oscalation> No. I do not use AskUbuntu.
10:20:35 <elky> why not?
10:20:51 <head_victim> oscalation: is there any involvement in teams outside of Answers?
10:21:54 <oscalation> No. Other than updating Documentation here and there.
10:21:57 <jokerdino> oscalation: we are a bunch of nice guys in ask ubuntu. :)
10:22:15 <oscalation> i havent made the switch. isnt ask ubuntu = stack exchange?
10:22:17 <amithkk> oscalation: You bet on that
10:22:18 <jokerdino> we will be happy to have you
10:22:28 <amithkk> We will love you there
10:22:42 <Destine> oscalation, i see you participate in #ubuntu-devel, bugs and testing, do you have any involvement with these teams' activities?
10:22:48 <head_victim> Not to say that Answers isn't a worthy project, I'm just trying to see if there's any involvement eslewhere.
10:22:54 <benonsoftware> oscalation: Its like a big family on Stack Exchange :P
10:23:24 <elky> oscalation, yes, it's stack exchange. it's the prefered place because it's more interactive and lets good answers essentially be showcased and easier to find for the next person with the problem
10:23:44 <oscalation> no problem. my involvement with bugs and testing is nothing official, more so ive helped and talked on the mailing list before.
10:23:55 <oscalation> elky, doe ask ubuntu work with ubuntu ssi
10:23:56 <Destine> oscalation, i see.
10:24:19 <jokerdino> oscalation: we are currently working on Ubuntu SSO, but launchpad SSO is already working.
10:24:33 <oscalation> good enough for me
10:24:41 <Destine> jokerdino, advertising huh.
10:24:43 <elky> oscalation, openid with launchpad. it has it's own karma system though
10:24:50 <oscalation> ah dang
10:24:59 <head_victim> Ready to vote?
10:25:01 <elky> karma on launchpad is a huge red herring really
10:25:02 <jokerdino> Destine: No, lol. Just clearing up the doubts :D
10:25:19 <oscalation> i file some bug reports on launchpad but not enough to hit my 10k mark by the end of the year
10:26:10 <czajkowski> head_victim: yes
10:26:39 <head_victim> #vote board members please vote on oscalation 's Ubuntu Membership Application
10:26:39 <meetingology> Please vote on: board members please vote on oscalation 's Ubuntu Membership Application
10:26:39 <meetingology> Public votes can be registered by saying +1, +0 or -1 in channel, (private votes don't work yet, but when they do it will be by messaging the channel followed by +1/-1/+0 to me)
10:27:11 <czajkowski> +0
10:27:11 <meetingology> +0 received from czajkowski
10:27:22 <Destine> +0
10:27:22 <meetingology> +0 received from Destine
10:27:33 <head_victim> +0 I do believe your documentation has improved a little over the last application. I would like to see some involvement in other teams (loco, ask ubuntu, forums, etc) and a few more signed testimonials
10:27:33 <meetingology> +0 I do believe your documentation has improved a little over the last application. I would like to see some involvement in other teams (loco, ask ubuntu, forums, etc) and a few more signed testimonials received from head_victim
10:27:57 <elky> +0 we really would like to see significant (not token) activity outside answers
10:27:57 <meetingology> +0 we really would like to see significant (not token) activity outside answers received from elky
10:29:02 <head_victim> #endvote
10:29:02 <meetingology> Voting ended on: board members please vote on oscalation 's Ubuntu Membership Application
10:29:02 <meetingology> Votes for:0 Votes against:0 Abstentions:4
10:29:02 <meetingology> Deadlock, casting vote may be used
10:29:54 <head_victim> oscalation: I'm happy to work with you on this but I really would like to see some more involvement in more than just one team. If you're only involved in one team I'd expect to see an extreme involvement backed up by a bunch of signed testimonials from the team members.
10:30:52 <oscalation> This is getting to be a little bit much. I am involved, with ubuntu answers, it seems this doenst count even though the application process  claims to be impartial of what form or channel users contribute from.
10:31:21 <Destine> AlanBell, glad to see you here.
10:31:31 <Destine> AlanBell, that deadlock appears again.
10:31:33 <AlanBell> hi, how can I help?
10:31:41 <elky> oscalation, you were asked last time to broaden your horizons.
10:32:11 <Destine> oscalation, and to improve your testimonials.
10:32:19 <oscalation> what your indirectly stating is that My involvement in Ubuntu Answers is hard to measure therefor not accepted. Which should be discussed and added to the application process.
10:32:23 <sagaci> > #votesrequired 1
10:32:54 <Destine> AlanBell, when we gave 4 +0, it's deadlock...
10:33:01 <head_victim> I've got to be honest, I don't know who Olivier is and only have a passing reference of who Andy is. If I had signed testimonials I could look up who they are.
10:33:11 <head_victim> sagaci: yeah I should have made it +4 before :/
10:33:25 <AlanBell> sagaci is right :)
10:33:27 <sagaci> head_victim: shouldn't it be +1
10:33:47 <sagaci> you don't need everyone to be on the crazytrain :)
10:33:49 <Destine> sagaci, +1 is right.
10:33:55 <oscalation> I added a testimonial from ActionParsnip as requested before, and I got more votes then i believe.
10:34:22 <oscalation> ive improved the requested improvements from the last meeting and obtained less votes
10:34:29 <sagaci> oscalation: all involvement in ubuntu is hard to measure
10:34:29 <head_victim> sagaci: trying to suss that out, possible needs all 4 +1s as we only have bare minimum quorum
10:34:37 <oscalation> Is there a board to dispute this vote with? Im not interested in applying again.
10:36:09 <benonsoftware> oscalation: The Community Council, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommunityCouncil ?
10:36:21 <head_victim> oscalation: if you're unhappy with the result please contact the community council as benonsoftware has just linked
10:36:32 <head_victim> They are the body who oversees the board.
10:36:32 <Destine> oscalation, or Local Council? head_victim
10:36:41 <elky> I'm not at all impressed that membership is being treated as some kind of right.
10:36:44 <oscalation> Thanks. I'll shoo them a message. I'll save the discussion and post it on my wiki for other team involvements. Thanks alot.
10:36:44 <czajkowski> Destine: no not the LC!!
10:37:05 <Destine> czajkowski, thank you for the correction. I am not sure about that.
10:37:21 <czajkowski> Destine: the CC is over all governance boards
10:37:26 <czajkowski> Destine: the LC is over locoteams :)
10:37:27 * benonsoftware thinks is czajkowski on the CC?
10:37:32 <czajkowski> benonsoftware: I am
10:38:28 * jokerdino forgot to thank czajkowski for helping out with my wiki page.
10:38:42 <jokerdino> eh, a bit too late?
10:38:54 <czajkowski> jokerdino: thats ok any time
10:38:55 <Destine> jokerdino, no.
10:39:02 <head_victim> #endvote
10:39:02 <meetingology> No vote in progress
10:39:21 <head_victim> Ok so no other applicants are around we'll end the meeting
10:39:29 <Destine> head_victim, thank you.
10:39:39 <sagaci> well done jokerdino
10:39:47 <Destine> jokerdino, congrats.
10:39:49 <head_victim> #Action board members to update the wiki, add jokerdino to the lp team and email results
10:39:49 * meetingology board members to update the wiki, add jokerdino to the lp team and email results
10:39:50 <jokerdino> thanks sagaci
10:39:53 <head_victim> #endmeeting