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16:00:44 * skaet just deleted her intro remarks...
16:00:58 <skaet> hi everyone,  sorry about this.  cut/paste error on my part.
16:01:27 <skaet> I'll reconstruct them and paste at end.
16:01:34 <skaet> Agenda is in usual place
16:02:05 <skaet> Thanks to everyone for getting the tested features in on time for feature freeze.
16:02:18 <skaet> Upcoming Dates:
16:02:19 <skaet> - 2012/06/23 - UserInterfaceFreeze
16:02:19 <skaet> - 2012/06/23 - BetaFreeze at 2100 UTC
16:02:19 <skaet> - 2012/02/02 - Beta 1
16:02:19 <skaet> .
16:02:19 <skaet> If time permits (ie. we end less than an hour), there will be a discussion at the end on some restructuring of this meeting,   possibly using an open forum for Q&A rather than explicit round table.   But for today,  we'll continue with round table.
16:02:23 <skaet> ..
16:02:57 <skaet> [TOPIC] Hardware Certification team update - mlegris
16:03:39 <mlegris> 1 second please :)
16:03:54 <skaet> https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-release/2012-February/000861.html
16:04:06 <mlegris> arg she beat me to it
16:04:24 <mlegris> so weekly testing hit a snag when we found a bug in bind9
16:04:41 <mlegris> any questions?
16:05:12 <mlegris> seeing none
16:05:13 <mlegris> ..
16:05:14 <skaet> mlegris,  not seeing the bind9 on your blocking list.   what's the bug number?
16:05:34 <mlegris> skaet: it should be on the list I sent out, let me grab it
16:05:42 <mlegris> bug 923685 Installing resolvconf causes loss of manually entered nameserver  information in resolv.conf
16:05:44 <ubottu> Launchpad bug 923685 in resolvconf (Ubuntu Precise) "Installing resolvconf causes loss of manually entered nameserver information in resolv.conf" [Critical,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/923685
16:05:55 <skaet> Thanks mlegris
16:06:00 <mlegris> np :)
16:06:16 <skaet> [TOPIC] QA team update -  jibel
16:06:31 <skaet> https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-release/2012-February/000858.html
16:06:31 <jibel> https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-release/2012-February/000858.html
16:06:36 <jibel> thanks
16:06:39 <skaet> :)
16:06:53 <jibel> (I messed up the date again sorry)
16:07:05 <stgraber> mlegris: the bind issue is actually https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/bind9/+bug/933723 (as noted in the last comment of 923685)
16:07:06 <ubottu> Launchpad bug 933723 in bind9 (Ubuntu) "resolvconf creating bogus resolv.conf file" [Low,New]
16:07:19 <skaet> jibel,  np.  are all the images now working today after FF?
16:07:43 <cjwatson> the boot speed testing issue is essentially fixed but needs a debian-installer upload to rebuild images
16:07:48 <cjwatson> that one was my fault
16:07:50 <jibel> skaet, yes
16:08:05 <skaet> jibel,  :)
16:08:35 * skaet sends big THANK YOU to the teams landing tested features!!
16:09:16 <skaet> [TOPIC] Security team Q&A - mdeslaur
16:09:26 <mdeslaur> https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-release/2012-February/000846.html
16:09:30 <mdeslaur> nothing further to report
16:09:32 <mdeslaur> any questions?
16:09:39 <mdeslaur> ..
16:09:42 <skaet> Thanks mdeslaur.
16:09:44 <skaet> :)
16:09:58 <mdeslaur> :)
16:10:32 <skaet> any FFes needed for AppArmor?
16:10:42 <skaet> (or have all the features landed now,  and its just bugs)
16:10:52 <mdeslaur> skaet: yes, we'll need a FFe for the kernel changes
16:11:06 <skaet> mdeslaur, ack.    thanks
16:11:28 <skaet> [TOPIC] Kernel team Q&A - ogasawara
16:11:31 <ogasawara> [LINK] https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-release/2012-February/000847.html
16:11:31 <ogasawara> I intend to upload our Beta-1 kernel today.  If there are any patches
16:11:31 <ogasawara> which need to land, submit them immediately.
16:11:38 <ogasawara> Questions?
16:11:39 <ogasawara> ..
16:12:01 <ogasawara> mdeslaur: jj pinged us to mention he hit a kitten killer with the apparmor patches so they'll be delayed.
16:12:14 <skaet> Thanks ogasawara!
16:12:15 <mdeslaur> ogasawara: ah, thanks
16:12:24 <mdeslaur> poor kitten :)
16:12:25 <skaet> any impact from the compiler change?
16:12:38 <ogasawara> skaet: none that I'm aware.  but I'll be kicking off test builds shortly.
16:12:43 <skaet> thanks
16:13:02 <skaet> [TOPIC] Foundations team Q&A - cjwatson
16:13:35 <cjwatson> http://status.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-precise/canonical-foundations.html
16:13:39 <cjwatson> Down pretty close to the trend line now.  We'll probably postpone quite a few Upstart-related work items, but aside from that the remaining items are either things that don't need to land in the archive or things that amount to bugs rather than feature work.
16:13:43 <cjwatson> https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-release/2012-February/000865.html
16:13:46 <cjwatson> Questions?
16:13:48 <cjwatson> ..
16:13:55 <arosales> o/
16:13:56 <skaet> yay,  re trend line.  :)
16:13:59 <cjwatson> arosales:
16:14:01 <arosales> cjwatson: lxc working better in your testing?
16:14:20 <cjwatson> arosales: you'd have to talk to stgraber about that, but I haven't heard complaints
16:14:48 <arosales> ok, I saw your update on new LXC with console/tty
16:15:06 <skaet> cjwatson,  any ETA on apport crash database FFE?
16:15:07 <arosales> good to know you haven't heard any large complaints though. :-)
16:15:24 <stgraber> arosales: working pretty well, uploading a new upstart now that'll unlock a udev upload fixing some more LXC issues, but after that, it should be really good
16:15:37 <stgraber> arosales: (the issue the udev fixes is the flood of udev event reaching the host when a container starts)
16:16:06 <cjwatson> skaet: I don't have a specific ETA at the moment; https://code.launchpad.net/~ev/apport/whoopsie/+merge/92753 has been clearly getting there apace and I think they're mostly cleaning up test breakage now
16:16:24 <cjwatson> skaet: the impression I had from ev was that it was likely to be days over the deadline rather than weeks
16:16:39 <arosales> stgraber: thanks for the info. Server team is doing some more work with OpenStack juju related to LXC
16:16:50 <skaet> thanks cjwatson.  :)  days is what I was hoping to hear.
16:17:01 <arosales> cjwatson: stgraber: thanks
16:17:24 <skaet> [TOPIC] Server team Q&A - arosales
16:17:28 <pitti> argh, got disconnected
16:17:30 <pitti> right, I'm talkign to ev now
16:17:32 <arosales> https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-release/2012-February/000867.html
16:17:32 <pitti> still working out some regressions
16:17:33 <pitti> there are a few UI warts to shake out, but I'm ok with fixing them a bit later
16:17:48 <pitti> ETA mid next week
16:18:25 <arosales> Apologies for the late post. Good amount of effort around Openstack, and automated testing. Also spent some time tracking down the use case for OpenMPI.
16:18:36 <arosales> Any questions?
16:18:47 <arosales> ..
16:19:03 <skaet> Thanks arosales.  :)  /me looking at it now.
16:19:28 * arosales apologizes again for the late post
16:19:46 <Daviey> Yeah, you are rubbish arosales :P
16:19:59 <skaet> re:  OpenMPI - ETA on FFE?
16:19:59 <arosales> totally :-/
16:20:25 <cjwatson> pitti: ah, thanks for the specifics
16:20:33 <arosales> skaet: Building right now. If not today (UK folks are working on it) then early next week.
16:21:00 <skaet> arosales,  coolio.   Thanks.  :)   farther away from beta freeze,  happier I am.  :)
16:21:09 <Daviey> There is a significant rbuild-depends right... that is the concern?
16:21:20 <arosales> skaet: We are working to keep the linkage of OpenMPI 1.5 to 1.4 deps to lower the risk.
16:21:46 <arosales> Daviey: right, thus we are trying to keep the linkage against 1.4
16:21:52 <skaet> thanks arosales,  good to know.
16:22:23 <skaet> [TOPIC] ARM team Q&A - ogra_
16:22:32 <ogra_> nothing to add to my mail report :)
16:23:05 <skaet> ogra_, congrats on making the switch to armhf!   good luck?
16:23:07 <ogra_> https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-release/2012-February/000863.html
16:23:11 <ogra_> btw :)
16:23:16 <skaet> :)
16:23:22 <pitti> that means we should switch precise_probs and friends over to armhf now?
16:23:32 <pitti> and move armel to testing_ports, etc
16:23:32 <ogra_> thanks, we shouldnt need luck but vendors that rebuild their binary drivers ;)
16:23:43 <arosales> orga: on that note, since amrel is now community maintained are most significant packages ready for armhf (given PRV driver is still coming)?
16:23:58 <arosales> I guess that kind of answers it :-)
16:24:16 <ogra_> arosales, PVR is coming and i think rsalveti talks to TI this week about PVR for omap3 too
16:24:26 <ogra_> the only missing one is nvidia for the ac100 atm
16:24:41 <arosales> thats not a bad list at all
16:24:53 <skaet> ogra_,  :)  indeed.   any FFes looking likely (other than for the late drops from TI, etc.)?
16:24:57 <ogra_> TI promised the panda PVR driver for next week (just in time)
16:25:05 <skaet> :)
16:25:13 <arosales> ogra_: thanks for the info.
16:25:18 <ogra_> skaet, the d-i bits for armadaxp ... not surte that needs an FFe
16:25:46 <ogra_> NCommander promised to have them ready today, but i didnt see him around since he said that :)
16:25:59 <skaet> dbarth,  pitti, - any update on when GLES will be supported in compiz?
16:26:09 * pitti doesn't know, sorry
16:26:10 <dbarth> skaet: i'm just talking with ogra
16:26:13 <ogra_> skaet, we are waiting for a patch from linaro
16:26:19 <dbarth> skaet: we're waiting for a linaro patch
16:26:22 <dbarth> right
16:26:32 <fabo2> it didn't happen as expected this week
16:26:36 <ogra_> iirc i saw it mentioned in fabo's report
16:26:37 <skaet> ogra_, re: armadaxp - ack.    GLES - okie.  :)
16:27:06 <skaet> thanks ogra_
16:27:07 <ogra_> linaro had their conference so they lag a bit ...
16:27:09 <ogra_> ..
16:27:51 <skaet> and on that note,  lets see if fabo's got some updates... ;)
16:27:55 <skaet> [TOPIC] Linaro team Q&A - fabo
16:27:59 <fabo2> https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-release/2012-February/000866.html
16:28:11 <fabo2> sorry for missing last meeting and the late post
16:28:37 <fabo2> this monthly cycle is short due to Linaro Connect, ELC and ABS
16:29:01 <fabo2> less work has been delivered than usual
16:29:06 <skaet> thanks fabo2.   yeah, busy month for you.  :)
16:29:39 <fabo2> Graphics team wasn't able to fid time to tackle Compiz GLES patch as expected
16:29:55 <skaet> fabo2,  any compiler issues known around the ARMHF side that we may need to pick up fixes for?
16:29:56 <fabo2> it's re-scheduled for next week
16:30:11 * Riddell hears KDE has a great GLES compositor
16:30:37 <fabo2> skaet: no issues in particular for armhf
16:31:03 <fabo2> doko was at Connect and I believe he pushed latest release
16:31:15 * skaet nods
16:31:33 <fabo2> any questions?
16:31:34 <fabo2> ..
16:32:05 * skaet apologizes for asking questions before the ..  :/
16:32:20 <skaet> Thanks fabo2!   I've asked mine.
16:32:32 <fabo2> otherwise, we started to ask vendors for armhf builds, same boat as ogra_
16:32:35 <fabo2> ..
16:32:39 * skaet nods
16:33:12 <skaet> [TOPIC] Ubuntu One Team Q&A -  joshuahoover or ralsina
16:33:40 <ralsina> skaet: and dobey, just in case ;-)
16:34:56 <ralsina> I am not sure about procedure. Should I explain our case a bit?
16:35:04 <skaet> https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-release/2012-February/000851.html
16:35:30 <skaet> yes,  ralsina,  please explain your question.  :)   end with .. when you're finished.
16:35:37 <ralsina> ok.
16:35:40 <skaet> :)
16:36:08 <ralsina> basically, we are moving to a Qt-based control panel, because we are now cross-platform (ubuntu and windows, mac is upcoming).
16:36:55 <ralsina> So, to maximize usage ofour resources,we wanted to have the same codebase in all platforms. So, this cycle we are switchig to the Qt control panel on Ubuntu.
16:37:19 <ralsina> In order to do that and still be on the CD, we did a certain amount of work to make space for ourselves and our dependencies
16:37:32 <pitti> I assume you are aware of the problem that pyqt4 isn't on the ubuntu default install and it's not easy to add it?
16:37:44 <pitti> (as it's huge)
16:37:53 <ralsina> pitti: yes, I am aware, and it's not so huge anymore because dobey has split it
16:38:00 <Riddell> he has?
16:38:01 <ralsina> pitti: and we don't need all of it
16:38:03 <dobey> it's still pretty big
16:38:06 <Riddell> ScottK: ^^
16:38:10 <ralsina> Riddell: he is, let's say
16:38:12 <pitti> I thought s/has/meant to/
16:38:14 <dobey> Riddell: i did some work to split it up more
16:38:21 <dobey> Riddell: but it's not proposed yet
16:38:44 <Riddell> dobey: ok please keep me and ScottK informed, ScottK is the guy who usually packages it and keeps it in sync with debian
16:38:47 <ralsina> All things considered, I think we use about 8MB (right dobey?)
16:38:56 <dobey> Riddell: will do
16:39:01 <dobey> ralsina: yes
16:39:27 <Cimi> did you test the theming on it?
16:39:40 <ralsina> And that's about it, really. The question would be, what do we have to do, or has to be done, to stay in the CD.
16:39:41 <ralsina> ..
16:39:48 <Cimi> nobody poke me during the cycle
16:40:05 <Riddell> it'll need a FFe of course
16:40:08 <dobey> Cimi: you can install it now and check it if you like. the style is u1 branding though, not necessarily same as ubuntu
16:40:11 <ralsina> Cimi: we are still in the process of testing the theming, but we have our own branding guidelines for Ubuntu One
16:40:31 <Riddell> but generally I find it nice that the world is discovering Qt, only 15 years after I did :)
16:40:40 <ralsina> Riddell: same here ;-)
16:40:46 <Cimi> so basically, we will have one of the default apps that won't look consistent in Ubuntu?
16:41:00 <dobey> Cimi: we already have that.
16:41:01 <Riddell> Cimi: Qt should pick up the GTK theme
16:41:14 <dobey> Cimi: for varying definitions of 'consistency'
16:41:19 <ralsina> It does pick the GTK theme to some point
16:41:21 <Riddell> (unlike the opposide where GTK doesn't bother so our side has to implement it)
16:41:22 <Cimi> Riddell, and next cycle?
16:41:30 <Cimi> Riddell, when gtk+2 theme will be a bit deprecated?
16:41:41 <Cimi> there's no qgtkstyle for Gtk+ 3
16:41:56 <Riddell> Cimi: you mean Qt 5 support?  no idea yet but like the rest of Qt it's actively maintained
16:41:56 <Cimi> I have my concerns, just saying
16:42:13 <Riddell> Cimi: I know they're aware of it upstream
16:42:16 <ralsina> Cimi: then there will be a problem. But P is a LTS so it has 5 years of gtk2 theme left in it
16:42:22 <Cimi> ok
16:42:34 <Cimi> thanks for clarifying
16:42:47 <Riddell> worth pointing out your needs, Qt like hearing from Canonical, I can give you contacts if you want to
16:43:06 <Cimi> Riddell, I have the most solid contact in Qt regarding theming
16:43:06 <ralsina> Here is a bug about this problem and motivation for the changeto Qt: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubuntuone-control-panel/+bug/934270
16:43:08 <ubottu> Launchpad bug 934270 in ubuntuone-control-panel (Ubuntu) "We need to drop the current GTK+ UI in favor of the Qt UI" [Undecided,New]
16:43:17 <Cimi> Jens Bache Wiig, a friend of mine
16:43:23 <Cimi> he's the author of qgtkstyle, indeed
16:43:24 <skaet> dobey,  what is the actual space needs like after the split?
16:43:38 <Riddell> Cimi: yeah but it might benefit from the "key stakeholder companies liason" guy knowing too
16:44:00 <Cimi> Riddell, I heard from him that nobody is working on a qgtkstyle for gtk3
16:44:08 <Cimi> things might have changed though
16:44:17 <dobey> skaet: it will be somewhere between 7 and 8 M, but I am saying 8 to be safe. currently pyqt4 requires a lot more
16:44:44 <Cimi> but in case they didn't, we need to be aware that we might need to hire someone to work on that, if we want to support u1 at its bests
16:44:44 <Riddell> Cimi: so worth us going to the stakeholder contact
16:44:48 <dobey> as it pulls in other qt libs which aren't currently on CD
16:46:02 <Cimi> Riddell, dobey, ralsina thx. Let's keep in touch pls
16:46:23 <skaet> dobey,  thanks.   pitti,  will we be able to get close after the langpacks cleaned up?  or still going to be painful?
16:46:25 <ralsina> Cimi: I will. We at OLS tend to work in our little bubble a bit.  ;-)
16:46:46 <pitti> skaet: right now, with a langpack refresh, we should be just about in size
16:47:04 <skaet> thanks pitti.
16:47:04 <pitti> http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-live/20120217/
16:47:04 <pitti> hmm
16:47:08 <pitti> seems we are still bigger than we should be
16:47:13 <pitti> need to check Tuesday
16:47:21 <pitti> perhaps old webkit is still on that image
16:47:26 * skaet keeping fingers crossed.
16:48:13 <dobey> 18M over is pretty big. and i doubt langpack refresh will give us back 26M :-/
16:48:18 <dobey> pitti: looks like it still is
16:49:00 <nessita> hello all! I'm also Ubuntu One. May I ask if is there any chance to consider dropping some other packages from the CD, such as games, for example? I think that Ubuntu One adds an important value to Ubuntu, and I think that having it installed by default on CD is a key point to reaching new users...
16:49:26 <skaet> Thanks ralsina for bringing the topic up, and opening the discussion off.  Suspect more will continue now offline.  :)
16:49:44 <ralsina> skaet: ok then, let's do that :-)
16:49:47 <ralsina> ..
16:50:17 <pitti> dobey: ok, will check next Tuesday
16:50:27 <dobey> ok
16:50:28 <skaet> nessita,  if we're over the size limit,  there's going to be some discussions next week.    Hang out in #ubuntu-devel and #ubuntu-release.
16:50:41 <nessita> skaet: sure I will, thanks
16:50:47 <pitti> we sitll have the option of dropping python3
16:50:59 <pitti> but I'm not sure how happy foundations would be about that
16:51:17 <skaet> heh,  and on that note....
16:51:20 <skaet> [TOPIC] Desktop Team Q&A  - pitti
16:51:24 <Cimi> I'm not that happy either
16:51:24 <pitti> it's treating one extra runtime against another one, both huge packages for one package (lsb-release vs. control-panel)
16:51:32 <pitti> https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-release/2012-February/000853.html
16:51:38 <pitti> unity 5.4 landed today at last
16:51:43 <skaet> :)
16:51:48 <pitti> and we are getting very close with the apport whoopsie changes
16:51:51 <pitti> nothing else to add
16:52:00 <pitti> (any more, discussions already happened)
16:52:02 <pitti> ..
16:52:19 <skaet> Thanks pitti. :)   Tuesday should be interesting.
16:53:23 <skaet> [TOPIC] Unity Framework Team Q&A - dbarth
16:53:33 <dbarth> Report at the usual address: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesktopExperienceTeam/ReleaseStatus
16:53:49 <dbarth> essentially unity 5.4 now in precise, that's the big news for the day
16:54:09 <dbarth> and we're looking forward to next week for a set of last UI changes prior to the freeze
16:54:16 <dbarth> see the schedule page i added in the report
16:54:21 <dbarth> ..
16:54:40 * skaet looking at the schedule...
16:55:40 <skaet> dbarth,   when are the FFe planned to land.   all next week?
16:56:00 <dbarth> skaet: HUD & LIM next week yes
16:56:07 <skaet> coverflow view?
16:56:10 <dbarth> as they were there but not quality ready
16:56:18 <dbarth> coverflow, i don't know
16:56:26 <dbarth> it's not very invasive, and is an optional view
16:56:36 <dbarth> but i'd rather get test before it's merged
16:56:48 * skaet nods
16:56:50 <dbarth> the week after, otherwise it'll be too late in the cycle
16:57:40 <skaet> we'll be in beta freeze then,  so please coordinate that one landing carefully with the release team.
16:57:59 <dbarth> yup
16:58:15 <skaet> thanks dbarth!
16:58:19 <skaet> [TOPIC] Unity Services and Settings Team  Q&A - Cimi
16:58:24 <Cimi> hI GUYS
16:58:26 <Cimi> [LINK] https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-release/2012-February/000855.html
16:58:41 <Cimi> so, lots of releases for indicators
16:59:00 <Cimi> same releases and work on touch
16:59:09 <Cimi> but I'd like to put your attention to the FFe
16:59:20 <Cimi> I added them at the bottom of the mail
16:59:55 * skaet appreciates them all being listed like that.   useful.  thanks.
17:00:05 <Cimi> :-)
17:00:14 <Cimi> so, questions from you?
17:00:22 <Cimi> especially, on those exceptions?
17:00:37 <skaet> thanks Cimi - yes,  when are they looking to land?
17:00:41 <skaet> :)
17:01:01 <Cimi> LIM together with unity
17:01:14 <Cimi> the two touch stuff next week as well
17:01:36 <Cimi> overlay scrollbars for accessibility maybe the week after, so again, in betafreeze
17:02:04 <Cimi> I need to check for the other two requests for indicator/gmenumodel
17:02:23 <Cimi> the UIFe at the bottom, is instead a really important feature
17:03:16 <Cimi> I could do it in time for the UIF, but I'd rather use my time to guide unity towards the UIF (as it's more risky), and spend some time the week afterwards to complete the required change for light-themes
17:03:21 <Cimi> is that fine for you?
17:03:48 <skaet> Thanks Cimi,  I'll follow up with you off line on the timings of some (beta freeze),  and we'll need to let the docs team know about the proposed UIFe...
17:04:16 <Cimi> skaet, sure, though that particular change won't affect docs
17:04:33 <Cimi> skaet, as it's a change that will apply on unfocused windows, so nothing will be subject to screenshots
17:04:42 <Cimi> ok, I'm done
17:04:58 <Cimi> thanks you all and congrats to all the team for the work done for the FF
17:04:59 <Cimi> ..
17:05:09 <Cimi> *teams
17:05:13 <skaet> Cimi,  :)  if its not going to affect the screen shots,  less of an issue.  :)
17:05:25 <skaet> thanks!
17:05:26 <Cimi> skaet, definitely not
17:05:30 <Cimi> yw, my pleasure
17:05:44 <skaet> [TOPIC] Kubuntu Team Q&A - Riddell
17:06:01 <Riddell> hi
17:06:10 <Riddell> https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-release/2012-February/000860.html
17:06:18 <Riddell> also digikam 2.5 got in
17:06:51 <Riddell> kubuntu-active CDs yet to be made but I should get onto that next week, it's very much "tech preview" so nothing official
17:07:08 <Riddell> I'm the tech driver for beta 1
17:07:20 <Riddell> and my poor brain means I get in grumpy moods easily so beware :)
17:07:21 <Riddell> ..
17:07:31 <skaet> Thanks Riddell!  :)
17:07:53 <skaet> any FFe's on the horizon for Kubuntu?   and will Kubuntu-active CD make the beta 1 release?
17:08:19 <Riddell> I don't know of any FFe's we'll need but they usually turn up
17:08:39 <Riddell> Kubuntu-active CD depends if I can work out the changes to scripts needed but it's just adapting the old kubuntu-mobile bits so I expect so
17:09:08 <skaet> Thanks Riddell.
17:09:26 <skaet> [TOPIC] Edubuntu Team Q&A - stgraber
17:09:30 * stgraber waves
17:09:36 <stgraber> https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-release/2012-February/000849.html
17:10:04 <stgraber> just a quick note to say that Alkis has been doing a lot of bug triaging today, so all of ltsp/ldm bugs should now have been moved upstream when needed or otherwise updated
17:10:08 <stgraber> ..
17:10:30 <skaet> thanks stgraber!  :)   and thanks Alkis!
17:10:48 <skaet> stgraber,  and Edubuntu FFe's anticipated?
17:11:05 <skaet> *any
17:11:24 <stgraber> nope, though it's not impossible we may have to file some when refreshing epoptes or ltsp
17:11:31 <stgraber> though both should only get bugfix releases at this point
17:11:45 <skaet> goodness.   Thanks!
17:12:01 <stgraber> np
17:12:01 <stgraber> ..
17:12:04 <skaet> [TOPIC] Xubuntu Team Q&A - madnick
17:13:17 <skaet> [TOPIC] Ubuntu Studio Team Q&A - scott-work
17:13:51 <skaet> [TOPIC] Lubuntu Team Q&A - gilir
17:13:58 <gilir> hi :)
17:14:01 <skaet> :)
17:14:05 <gilir> https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-release/2012-February/000862.html
17:14:09 <gilir> ..
17:14:36 <skaet> Thanks gilir.
17:15:36 * skaet not seeing any FFe's know in the report... earlier the better though.  ;)
17:15:49 <skaet> [TOPIC] MOTU Team Q&A - tumbleweed or Laney
17:15:55 <tumbleweed> hi
17:16:01 <skaet> :)
17:16:02 <tumbleweed> https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-release/2012-February/000868.html (after the meeting started, sorry)
17:16:16 <tumbleweed> I forgot https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ebox/+bug/928501 thought
17:16:17 <ubottu> Launchpad bug 928501 in ebox (Ubuntu) "Precise will ship totally broken ebox packages" [Undecided,Confirmed]
17:16:24 <scott-work> \o
17:16:30 <tumbleweed> ..
17:16:42 <skaet> Thanks tumbleweed!   Nice to get the summary like that.  :D
17:17:10 <tumbleweed> well, there were >0 items to summarise :)
17:17:27 <skaet> Looking forward to the jam being scheduled.  :)
17:17:39 <skaet> so scott-work
17:17:47 <scott-work> https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-release/2012-February/000850.html
17:17:48 <skaet> s/so/go/  :)
17:18:11 <skaet> any questions for tumbleweed or scott-work ?
17:18:21 <scott-work> i believe it is worth noting that the lowlatency kernel was uploaded to new queue
17:18:33 <scott-work> other than that, nothing else critical
17:18:33 <scott-work> ..
17:19:19 <skaet> Thanks scott-work :)   any FFEs on the horizon?
17:20:03 <scott-work> i would expect so, maybe two
17:20:36 <skaet> ok,  will follow up with you offline about timings, etc.
17:20:44 <scott-work> copy that
17:20:55 <scott-work> ..
17:20:56 <skaet> [TOPIC] Any other business, comments,  questions?
17:21:23 <arosales> skaet: Is beta-1 testing now open
17:21:34 <skaet> This meeting has run late,  so I'll take my missing bits to the mail list,  and start the discussion there.
17:21:56 <skaet> arosales,  beta-1 testing will open when we hit beta freeze - right now use the daily images.
17:21:58 <arosales> roger that, thanks for moderating skaet
17:23:22 <skaet> Thanks mlegris, jibel, mdeslaur, ogaswara, cjwatson, arosales, ogra_, fabo2, pitti, dbarth, Cimi, gilir,  scott-work,  tumbleweed, Riddell, dobey, nessitta, ralsina
17:23:25 <skaet> #endmeeting