#title #ubuntu-meeting Meeting Meeting started by slangasek at 16:02:31 UTC. The full logs are available at http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2012/ubuntu-meeting.2012-02-08-16.02.log.html . == Meeting summary == *Lightning round *FF *Bugs *AOB Meeting ended at 16:42:33 UTC. == Votes == == Action items == * (none) == People present (lines said) == * ev (53) * slangasek (42) * bdmurray (32) * stgraber (26) * doko (11) * ubottu (11) * barry (10) * jhunt_ (5) * meetingology (3) == Full Log == 16:02:31 #startmeeting 16:02:31 Meeting started Wed Feb 8 16:02:31 2012 UTC. The chair is slangasek. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology. 16:02:31 16:02:31 Available commands: #accept #accepted #action #agree #agreed #chair #commands #endmeeting #endvote #halp #help #idea #info #link #lurk #meetingname #meetingtopic #nick #progress #rejected #replay #restrictlogs #save #startmeeting #subtopic #topic #unchair #undo #unlurk #vote #voters #votesrequired 16:02:38 doko: no, it's the usual time ; 16:02:38 ) 16:02:45 heh 16:03:09 [TOPIC] Lightning round 16:03:34 $ echo $(shuf -e barry doko stgraber jhunt_ ev bdmurray slangasek) 16:03:34 jhunt_ ev doko bdmurray slangasek stgraber barry 16:03:41 no cjwatson today, per his mail 16:03:50 Working on bug 922754 - jason and myself both independently found the 16:03:50 same bug in openssh! :-) Reworking code to take account of such 'unusually 16:03:50 behaved apps'. Started to look at stgrabers upstart-containers MP. 16:03:51 ⏏ 16:03:52 Launchpad bug 922754 in upstart "booting without --no-log causes init and plymouth-upstart-bridge to spin at 100%" [High,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/922754 16:04:00 * jhunt_ now using erc :) 16:04:23 - Summary email to Rick on the Open Invention Network meeting I attended at 16:04:23 his request last week. 16:04:23 - Verifying that Wubi 11.10 is not affected by the recent download fallback 16:04:24 bug, as expected. 16:04:24 - Merging Loic's Automake fixes for libtimezonemap. 16:04:24 - Wired the DBus preferences to the configuration file and vice versa in the 16:04:25 preferences dialog backend. 16:04:25 - Added PolicyKit wrapping to the preferences dialog backend methods. 16:04:27 jhunt_: rock! 16:04:32 - Wired the checkboxes to DBus calls in the preferences page. 16:04:33 - Set up DBus service activation for the preferences page backend. 16:04:45 - Shut down the preferences page backend 60 seconds after the last call. 16:04:45 - Fixed some bugs in the preferences page backend. 16:04:45 - Uploaded a new whoopsie (0.1.5) with the completed preferences page. 16:04:46 - Initial remodeling of the apport crash dialog in support of the new crash 16:04:46 database. 16:04:46 - Show the icons of the application with a bottom right error icon overlay, 16:04:47 rather than just a generic error icon in the apport crash dialog. 16:04:47 - Sorted travel for Strata. 16:05:09 - Move obtaining the report information into a thread that's either called 16:05:09 when the user presses the Show Details button or when they choose to report 16:05:09 the bug, as discussed previously with Matthew and Martin. 16:05:10 - Handle the different types of bug reports having slightly different UI in 16:05:10 the apport crash dialog. 16:05:10 - Wire up the crash counter field to the ignore future problems checkbox. 16:05:11 - Fixed a few bugs in the new apport UI. 16:05:11 - Built and uploaded a new Wubi for 10.04.4. 16:05:19 - Found out from Matthew that GNOME has gone ahead and created their own page 16:05:19 called Privacy in the Control Center. I'll have to rework the code as a 16:05:19 patch that adds a Diagnostics tab. :( 16:05:20 - Blacklist the report if the user checked the ignore future problems 16:05:20 checkbox. 16:05:30 - Better handling of calling into collect_info, as was the case previously, 16:05:30 complete with error handling UI in threads. 16:05:30 - Handle the administrator disabling crash reporting. 16:05:30 - Actually notify the crash reporting daemon that there's a new crash to 16:05:31 upload. 16:05:31 - Started work on the KDE side of the apport changes. 16:05:32 (done) 16:05:52 - openjdk-6 and icedtea-web builds 16:05:52 - fosdem (best news is that RedHat announced their openjdk ARM build does pass the TCK) 16:05:52 - now at Linaro Connect 16:05:53 - will upload eglibc-2.15 today 16:06:03 ... if nobody intervenes 16:06:06 done 16:06:06 (was actually Canonical, not GNOME) 16:06:22 bug triage of ubiquity bug reports 16:06:22 updated ubiquity apport source package hook to include installer command line 16:06:25 iso-testing bug triage 16:06:31 review of merge proposals from Vadim Rutkovsky 16:06:31 testing ubiquity bug 924836 regarding ifupdown and plymouth 16:06:31 testing ubiquity bug 902479 regarding details (dupe searching) 16:06:31 testing ubiquity bug 645449 and finding duplicates of it 16:06:33 Launchpad bug 924836 in resolvconf (Ubuntu Precise) "network-manager does not tell plymouth it has started" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/924836 16:06:35 Launchpad bug 830946 in ubiquity (Ubuntu Precise) "duplicate for #902479 Nothing displayed on embedded terminal." [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/830946 16:06:36 Launchpad bug 645449 in ubiquity (Ubuntu Precise) "Ubiquity hangs at Keyboard layout if you use keyboard to navigate / select" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/645449 16:06:41 searched for DBus.Error.NoReply bug reports 16:06:41 added screenlog.0 log file to precise update-manager apport hook 16:06:41 debugging of collect bug data for arsenal reports 16:06:41 tested apt-clone and dist-upgrade of lucid to precise (bug 927993) 16:06:42 Launchpad bug 927993 in apt (Ubuntu Precise) "distribution upgrade from lucid to precise failed with : package dpkg is already installed and configured" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/927993 16:06:53 apport branch not to remove dependencies.txt from duplicates 16:06:53 updated meta-release files on changelogs.ubuntu.com to show 12.04 LTS 16:07:04 ⁂ 16:08:27 * alpha-2 out the door 16:08:28 * interviewing 16:08:28 * nothing much else to report 16:08:28 * I'll be off Monday 16:08:37 ə 16:08:46 - Testing tracker 16:08:46 - Help with Alpha 2 preparation 16:08:46 - Wrote an initial to generate a list of releasable images from the tracker based on testing coverage 16:08:49 - Networking 16:08:52 - Some more work on resolvconf, reverting the init script change that was done last week and usnig a relative symlink for /etc/resolv.conf instead 16:08:55 - Merged some fixes into netcfg, fixed it to deal properly with reoslvconf and fixed another small DHCPv6 issue. 16:08:58 - Got daily d-i IPv6 testing running, just need to have the results pushed somewhere now 16:09:01 - Follow-up on SRUs for ifupdown, ifenslave-2.6, vlan, bridge-utils. TREllis should have test results soon that will let us move all that to -updates (if succesful) 16:09:04 - LTSP 16:09:07 - Started preparing the LTSP upload for Precise, there are a lot of upstream changes, so currently testing in a PPA with a few LTSP developers (yeah, you, alkisg ;)) 16:09:10 - Reworked LTSP-Live, just need to do some more testing on it and that'll be on less WI :) 16:09:13 - Containers 16:09:16 - Updated upstart branch a bit, still pending review, hopefully this week. 16:09:19 - Got LXC to build armel and armhf containers on x86! http://www.stgraber.org/2012/02/03/ever-wanted-an-armel-or-armhf-container-on-an-x86-machine-its-now-possible-with-lxc-in-ubuntu-precise/ 16:09:23 - Started looking at ways to allow for clean upgrades and dist-upgrades of running containers 16:09:26 - TPM 16:09:29 - tpm-tools is back in Ubuntu! 16:09:31 - Now to do a few tests and documment that stuff (post-FF probably) 16:09:34 - TODO 16:09:36 - Trying to get as much as possible done before Feature Freeze, thankfully quite a few work items can be done after it. 16:09:39 (done) 16:09:42 *wrote an initial script 16:10:24 armel containers on x86 - freaky stuff : 16:10:25 ) 16:10:42 stgraber: do you have tpm-tools working on your system now? 16:11:08 slangasek: I have it installed, not quite working yet but I need to try with a clean TPM and David's instructions 16:11:14 * slangasek nods 16:12:00 barry: 16:12:05 prepared and conducted udd class for udw; updated udd online docs. long discussions on various python security issues. python3-pyqt4-dbus review. DM application. helped out oem and other internal devs on some packaging issues. updated patch for wadllib+python3 submitted to debian. wrote up debian python packaging style guide proposal: . todo: gearing up for stable+1 maintenance work this month; 16:12:06 coordinate w/pitti and SpamapS. off on friday. ⊗ 16:13:35 barry: has your DM application been approved? (For some reason that's set up to where everybody can see the application, and then no one knows when it's accepted...) 16:14:11 slangasek: i honestly don't know. the docs say "wait a while" so i'm waiting for confirmation 16:14:16 k :) 16:14:22 ;) 16:15:37 [TOPIC] FF 16:15:58 * ev runs away screaming 16:16:01 I'm told Feature Freeze is happening next Thursday :) 16:16:19 so don't get caught holding a feature on Thursday, or it'll freeze to your skin and have to be surgically removed 16:16:46 does our health insurance policy cover that? 16:16:54 ev: not in the usa 16:16:57 ;) 16:17:45 if there are any features you're concerned about not having done before FF, talk to me (and the release team) *now*, don't wait 'til next Thursday 16:18:27 I'm still toying with making ruby1.9 the default, have to talk with lucas 16:19:12 doko: there was some discussion yesterday in #u-devel about numpy 1.6. any thoughts on that? 16:19:43 (jtaylor is interested in that) 16:19:51 jtaylor, I don't see a reason not to do that. so if you have packages for numpy, scipy, and maybe others, let me know 16:20:00 doko: is that something you'll coordinate with the server team as well? Ruby is in main to support their apps specifically 16:20:14 doko: fantastic, thanks 16:20:20 slangasek, ok will pester Daviey 16:21:39 [TOPIC] Bugs 16:22:07 bdmurray: have we found all the bugs now, or are there still new ones? 16:22:35 slangasek: I'm pretty sure there are still some new ones 16:23:13 Oh, actually I found a funny one yesterday 928447 16:23:20 bug 928447 16:23:21 Launchpad bug 928447 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "possible to use a number for your computer's name" [Medium,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/928447 16:24:10 heh 16:24:12 seriously though - ev any progress with a wubi 247 for oneiric? 16:25:39 also bug 920479 has been around for some time 16:25:40 Launchpad bug 920479 in pitivi (Ubuntu) "pitivi don't start" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/920479 16:25:42 bdmurray: I tried to reproduce this issue with the wubi installer from ubuntu.com attempting to use the development release payload, but it did not 16:25:44 er 902479 16:26:01 bdmurray: yeah, I guess that's because of an older RFC stating an hostname can't start by a digit and some software still expect that to be true 16:26:31 ev: so what needs to happen next 16:27:18 well, I fixed bug 924752 for precise 16:27:20 Launchpad bug 924752 in Wubi "wubi r255 - Ubuntu Desktop failed to install from disk image - wrong download url" [Critical,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/924752 16:27:33 I'm not convinced the "if I copy this off the cd and try to run it from the desktop" is really a bug 16:28:16 right but what I did is download from ubuntu.com and it tried to install the development. I'll test it again though just to be really sure. 16:28:19 stgraber: even in the current RFCs, hostnames aren't allowed to consist entirely of numbers 16:28:26 bdmurray: please do 16:28:48 if you can reliably reproduce it, I'd like to see some logs from that attempt 16:28:53 regarding numbers as hostnames was that it won't let you until you type in a password 16:29:04 ev: and is there a debug switch for wubi? 16:29:14 make sure you're getting it from the page off of ubuntu.com 16:29:27 bdmurray: nope, it dumps its brain to %TEMP% 16:29:37 with debug logging the default 16:30:08 okay 16:30:14 bug 902479 16:30:16 Launchpad bug 830946 in ubiquity (Ubuntu Precise) "duplicate for #902479 Nothing displayed on embedded terminal." [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/830946 16:31:16 its not a huge deal but rather ugly 16:31:21 ask me about that one when we're deep in bug fixing mode :) 16:32:29 ev: should we assign it to you in the meantime? :) 16:32:50 slangasek: do you know which RFC(s)? 952 is not particularly clear on the "just a number" bit as the "can't start by a digit" was taking care of that case, then 1123 says that the "can't start by a digit" bit is dropped 16:33:06 slangasek: you can assign to me as many bugs as you'd like, now the milestone field on the other hand... ;) 16:33:14 s/,/./ 16:33:25 heh 16:33:44 go ahead, but I promise not to touch it until we're past UI freeze 16:33:53 stgraber: not offhand; but I'm sure that a hostname consisting entirely of numbers is still prohibited, and is routinely interpreted as a decimal encoding of an IP 16:34:03 bdmurray: any other bugs? 16:34:57 yes bug 876298 seems to have come up again as there are some issues installing flashplugin 16:34:58 Launchpad bug 876298 in update-manager (Ubuntu) "[MASTER] We need to better handle external payloads (Flash, msttcorefonts) not being available." [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/876298 16:35:02 * doko is changing rooms, plenaries start at 8:30 at Linaro :-/ 16:35:09 * slangasek waves to doko 16:35:38 some installs are failing to resolve archive.canonical.com to get flash and then the install crashes 16:35:52 stgraber and I talked about the name resolution failure which is a separate issue 16:36:17 it just seems to me that fixing 876298 would help more people install 16:37:27 barry: that one's assigned to you; have you had a chance to look into it at all? 16:37:56 slangasek: i haven't but i will 16:37:58 slangasek: right, the closest thing I found is in the DNS RFC (1912) which clearly states that a label can't be a number, though that's specifically for DNS records. Anyway, enough digging in RFCs for the day ;) 16:38:11 barry: ok, thanks 16:38:39 I also want to remind folks about http://reports.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/kernel-bugs/reports/rls-p-tracking-bugs.html 16:38:57 additionally would fixing hat help with bug 922949? 16:38:58 Launchpad bug 922949 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "installer crashed due to a corrupted package" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/922949 16:39:04 this has the list of bugs that we really really need to fix for release... and the numbers aren't going down very quickly :( 16:39:59 some of them are targeted to beta-1 and are on track... but we probably shouldn't leave the rest to the end of the cycle, lest they fail to make the cut 16:41:06 [TOPIC] AOB 16:41:15 anything else? 16:42:33 #endmeeting Generated by MeetBot 0.1.5 (http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology)