#title #ubuntu-meeting Meeting Meeting started by holstein at 17:04:36 UTC. The full logs are available at http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2012/ubuntu-meeting.2012-01-22-17.04.log.html . == Meeting summary == ''LINK:'' https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuStudio/Meetings/2012January22 (holstein, 17:07:25) ''LINK:'' https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuStudio/Meetings/2012January22 (holstein, 17:07:29) *old business *Decide alternating meeting times on channel/mailing list later *LTS proposal ''LINK:'' https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/technical-board/2012-January/001160.html (holstein, 17:13:22) *Blueprints statuses ''LINK:'' https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/topic-precise-flavor-ubuntu-studio (holstein, 17:15:14) *mudita24 version debate ''LINK:'' http://packages.debian.org/sid/mudita24 (holstein, 17:18:17) ''LINK:'' http://packages.ubuntu.com/precise/mudita24 (holstein, 17:18:24) ''ACTION:'' ailo to test newer mudita24 version for inclusion (holstein, 17:22:28) *other business ''ACTION:'' astraljava review and report on user groups (audio, video) and what we need for our installer, and live iso (holstein, 17:32:26) ''ACTION:'' len check on the missing /usr/share/xgreeters/default.desktop as it develops (holstein, 17:35:58) ''ACTION:'' ailo report on Debian multimedia team contat RE: audio group and jackd installation (holstein, 17:37:15) *next meeting ''ACTION:'' astraljava to chair next meeting or make arrangments for it to be chaired (holstein, 17:38:59) Meeting ended at 17:39:48 UTC. == Votes == == Action items == * ailo to test newer mudita24 version for inclusion * astraljava review and report on user groups (audio, video) and what we need for our installer, and live iso * len check on the missing /usr/share/xgreeters/default.desktop as it develops * ailo report on Debian multimedia team contat RE: audio group and jackd installation * astraljava to chair next meeting or make arrangments for it to be chaired == Action items, by person == * ailo ** ailo to test newer mudita24 version for inclusion ** ailo report on Debian multimedia team contat RE: audio group and jackd installation * astraljava ** astraljava review and report on user groups (audio, video) and what we need for our installer, and live iso ** astraljava to chair next meeting or make arrangments for it to be chaired * len ** len check on the missing /usr/share/xgreeters/default.desktop as it develops == People present (lines said) == * holstein (64) * astraljava (38) * len (14) * meetingology (8) * ailo (6) * craigs63 (1) * bkerensa (1) == Full Log == 17:04:36 #startmeeting 17:04:36 Meeting started Sun Jan 22 17:04:36 2012 UTC. The chair is holstein. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AlanBell/mootbot. 17:04:36 17:04:36 Available commands: #accept #accepted #action #agree #agreed #chair #commands #endmeeting #endvote #halp #help #idea #info #link #lurk #meetingname #meetingtopic #nick #progress #rejected #replay #restrictlogs #save #startmeeting #subtopic #topic #unchair #undo #unlurk #vote #voters #votesrequired 17:04:59 hi 17:05:58 for the record... give one more o/ to say you are here since i started the bot 17:06:05 o/ 17:06:25 o/ 17:06:59 o/ 17:07:25 #link https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuStudio/Meetings/2012January22 17:07:29 https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuStudio/Meetings/2012January22 17:08:21 is ScottL coming? 17:08:38 anyways.. he is emailing about that first item there 17:08:42 Haven't heard of him in a while. 17:08:57 who is "jon" ? 17:09:29 #topic old business 17:09:34 He has been on the channel a few times. 17:09:46 "Jon email list for separate meeting for work flows discussion: INPROGRESS" 17:09:58 not sure about where that is... but its logged ^^ 17:10:20 #topic Decide alternating meeting times on channel/mailing list later 17:10:38 Yeah, I sent an email regarding that a while back. 17:10:40 astraljava: i think we are just starting on the every-other-week plan correct? 17:10:58 cool... so i think that is OK as-is for now 17:11:05 holstein: True. For formal meetings, every other week on here. 17:11:15 Informal in between, on our own channel. 17:11:32 No, the alternating was about different times of the day/week. 17:11:32 i like it.. and we'll see how effective it becomes 17:12:27 lets move on then to the LTS discussion 17:12:33 #topic LTS proposal 17:12:45 astraljava: do you know where we are on that? 17:12:49 where is xubuntu on that? 17:13:07 Xubuntu was accepted according to the example proposal I linked to. 17:13:22 We were supposed to talk about it here. 17:13:22 https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/technical-board/2012-January/001160.html 17:13:41 astraljava: you want to take that on right now? and talk us through it? 17:13:57 No, I don't, since we're missing our leader. 17:14:04 I propose we postpone it for later. 17:14:28 i think theres time for that as well... lets move on then 17:15:08 #topic Blueprints statuses 17:15:14 https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/topic-precise-flavor-ubuntu-studio 17:16:02 again, i think ScottL is mostly the one to comment here, but i think he said we were making good progress 17:16:19 astraljava: do you remember when he said we would have a LIVE image? 17:16:34 There's no ETA as far as I know. 17:16:42 But it's moving on rapidly. 17:17:30 either way, those are the links to the blueprints and that is logged... moving on... 17:17:52 #topic mudita24 version debate 17:18:01 ailo: were you envolved with this? 17:18:04 Yeah, I added that just recently. 17:18:08 nope 17:18:15 There's a newer version in debian sid now. 17:18:17 http://packages.debian.org/sid/mudita24 17:18:24 http://packages.ubuntu.com/precise/mudita24 17:18:37 astraljava: can we bring it in? 17:18:39 I have this from the debian maintainer: 17:18:48 Major changes follow: 17:18:48 * Applied patch by James Morris to modernize and remove some deprecated code. * Remove the support for very old GTK+ versions. * Moved to cmake build system. * Fixed wrong alsactl location. Now cmake looks for alsactl. Override 17:18:52 with environment variable ALSACTL_PROG. * Added usage info. * Fixed serious fatal X error: height too big. 17:19:11 Looks like there are big changes. I'm a bit worried they are too big. 17:19:24 Does the team think we can test this enough so that we could sync it? 17:19:34 There's still time until Feature Freeze. 17:19:39 .. 17:19:40 astraljava: i cant... i dont have the hardware 17:19:53 Me and Scott have them 17:19:56 I do, but I don't do so much of the stuff that's on work flows. 17:20:17 ailo: Do you think you could test it? I could file the sync request, then. 17:20:50 Install the sid package and test it? Sure 17:20:57 if we can get it tested, i say go for it... i know folks have that hardware, and i would like the LTS to be supportive of it 17:21:20 Sorry, which hw? 17:21:39 True. So, make an action for ailo to test it, and we should have a review on the next meeting. Ok? 17:21:50 len: ICE1712 chip 17:22:00 I have that too. 17:22:13 len: Could you provide testing, too+ 17:22:21 Of what sw? 17:22:28 #action ailo to test newer mudita24 version for inclusion 17:22:28 * meetingology ailo to test newer mudita24 version for inclusion 17:22:30 mudita24 17:22:33 OK 17:22:52 Thanks! 17:22:55 .. 17:23:05 thats all i have on the official list... open items? 17:23:18 any other business? 17:23:28 #topic other business 17:24:09 Nothing from me. 17:24:44 i want to say thanks to len for such great testing! 17:24:53 where are we on UI? on look and feel? 17:24:59 sorry im late 17:25:02 wallpaper? that kind of thing... 17:26:24 len: you're right on time :) 17:26:54 len: if you want to officially log some of the things you are commenting on through the list, go for it 17:27:13 as in bug? 17:27:26 len: just so its in the minutes 17:28:07 I just files a kernel bug for panic on sd card insert 17:28:34 the extra packages are acting up again but should be fixed by now. 17:28:37 len: were you working on the audio group issue? 17:28:44 disussing it? 17:29:10 Not really. The installer gets it nobody else does. 17:29:47 holstein: Sorry, I actually took an action on it. 17:29:55 The default for a new user is custom which comes with no perms, instead of desktop 17:29:57 astraljava: the audio group? 17:30:35 Yeah. We talked about it with ailo, and it seems the user created by the installer should be in audio group by default. 17:30:56 astraljava: and the live user too? 17:31:07 I don't know, but maybe. 17:31:31 i could argure audio and video, though i know the security risks are valid 17:31:31 Put an action of it for me, please. 17:31:38 It would kind of be pointless to have a live user if it didn't belong to audio group 17:32:26 #action astraljava review and report on user groups (audio, video) and what we need for our installer, and live iso 17:32:26 * meetingology astraljava review and report on user groups (audio, video) and what we need for our installer, and live iso 17:32:38 Thanks. 17:32:48 anything else? 17:33:08 there is a link missing in the iso too 17:33:29 there is no X login without 17:33:39 I'm contacting Debian multimedia team to discuss the possibility to add audio group administration as a part of installing jackd. It's not the neatest way perhaps, but if it works, it would make things easier 17:33:56 len: that sounds important... elaborate 17:34:34 though, im sure our iso is far from complete at this stage.. 17:34:48 /usr/share/xgreeters/default.desktop is missing. it should be a link to the other file that is in the same directory 17:35:27 len: would you mind to keep that on your radar, and check when we get an iso? 17:35:44 Pretty hard not to :-) 17:35:58 #action len check on the missing /usr/share/xgreeters/default.desktop as it develops 17:35:58 * meetingology len check on the missing /usr/share/xgreeters/default.desktop as it develops 17:36:32 ailo: i like that... ill action you to report on it? 17:37:15 #action ailo report on Debian multimedia team contat RE: audio group and jackd installation 17:37:15 * meetingology ailo report on Debian multimedia team contat RE: audio group and jackd installation 17:37:25 anything else? 17:37:37 #next meeting 17:37:47 #topic next meeting 17:38:06 february 5th same time, same channel! 17:38:26 i cannon chair then... you want me to say its you astraljava ? and you can hand it out as needed 17:38:34 cannot* 17:38:35 Yeah that works. 17:38:59 #action astraljava to chair next meeting or make arrangments for it to be chaired 17:38:59 * meetingology astraljava to chair next meeting or make arrangments for it to be chaired 17:39:48 #endmeeting Generated by MeetBot 0.1.5 (http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AlanBell/mootbot)