#title #ubuntu-meeting Meeting Meeting started by ogra_ at 15:00:33 UTC. The full logs are available at http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2011/ubuntu-meeting.2011-10-20-15.00.log.html . == Meeting summary == ''ACTION:'' everyone rename their specs (ogra_, 15:07:24) ''ACTION:'' janimo to add live-installer spec (janimo, 15:11:16) ''LINK:'' http://merges.ubuntu.com (stgraber, 15:14:12) Meeting ended at 15:30:20 UTC. == Votes == * should we skip the IRC meeting at UDS ? For: 6 Against: 0 Abstained: 0 == Action items == * everyone rename their specs * janimo to add live-installer spec == Action items, by person == * janimo ** janimo to add live-installer spec == People present (lines said) == * ogra_ (96) * davidm (25) * NCommander (20) * meetingology (19) * ppisati (17) * infinity (14) * GrueMaster (14) * janimo (12) * james_w (2) * stgraber (1) * wcchandler (1) == Full Log == 15:00:33 #startmeeting 15:00:33 Meeting started Thu Oct 20 15:00:33 2011 UTC. The chair is ogra_. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AlanBell/mootbot. 15:00:33 15:00:33 Available commands: #accept #accepted #action #agree #agreed #chair #commands #endmeeting #endvote #halp #help #idea #info #link #lurk #meetingname #meetingtopic #nick #progress #rejected #replay #restrictlogs #save #startmeeting #subtopic #topic #unchair #undo #unlurk #vote #voters #votesrequired 15:00:48 * davidm is drinking coffee and needs food 15:01:01 * davidm waves at ogra_ 15:01:11 * ogra_ waves back 15:01:16 * NCommander wants to shoot the sun 15:01:21 * GrueMaster raises a coffee mug. 15:01:40 so seems we have no announcement or wikipage ... i wont make one up right now ... and i dont think we need the agenda actually 15:01:44 * ppisati has coffee too 15:02:24 * ogra_ has coffee too now 15:02:56 ogra_, somewhere in todays meeting we need to deicide if we are having a meeting in 2 weeks (during UDS), I personally vote not to. 15:03:00 https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ARM/PBlueprintIdeasseems to look good, apart from achiang everyone has registered their specs 15:03:15 so everyone has plenty of notice if we are not doing it 15:03:18 do we miss any specs ? 15:03:28 davidm, ack 15:03:34 Historically we never have a meeting during UDS. 15:03:51 is there anything urgent that needs to be added to the spec list, anything we forgot or so ? 15:04:00 if not, lets move on :) 15:04:03 With specs, I got notification that they'r ein the wrong track 15:04:08 * davidm is looking at the spec idea page 15:04:11 I will be moving all specs from 'arm' to 'ubuntu-arm' 15:04:21 sorry for being late 15:04:24 NCommander, err, i was told our track is called arm 15:04:32 janimo, you didnt miss much 15:04:40 we look at the blueprint ideas once more 15:04:45 ogra_: I was poked by james_w ithas to be ubuntu-arm 15:04:53 NCommander, weird 15:04:54 k 15:04:56 And ubuntu-arm seems redundant for the Ubuntu Developers Summit. 15:05:00 so we have to rename all specs 15:05:11 ogra_: I'll bedoing so as soonas the meeting is over 15:05:15 even though i would like to hear that from a second authority 15:05:17 or the track could be renamed 15:05:22 davidm, ?? ^^^ 15:05:32 maybe ubuntu arm was chosen to distinguish from linaro-arm? 15:05:32 james_w: if you could rename the track to 'arm' I think that would save us a lot of work :-) 15:05:35 james_w, well, "arm" was what was announced to us 15:05:47 so getting that would be good :) 15:05:48 as well as "arm" being historically what we had when we had the ARM track 15:05:56 that too 15:05:56 I'm just the messenger, I'm not going to rename anything 15:06:26 james_w: who's the person to talk to on renaming the track? 15:06:33 track can't be renamed 15:06:45 well, if there is any compellinmg reason for us to invest 1h of work to rename them all vs someone on lp flicking a switch to rename the track, i think i'll go for the track renaming ;) 15:06:57 davidm, so we have to rename all specs now ? 15:07:01 with Linaro having a connect there it must be clear the track is ubuntu 15:07:07 ah 15:07:07 ogra_, yep 15:07:14 * ogra_ sighs ... 15:07:24 [action] everyone rename their specs 15:07:24 * meetingology everyone rename their specs 15:07:27 :) 15:07:50 having few specs pays off in unexpected ways 15:08:12 * GrueMaster is exempt. other-p-qa-baremetal-testing 15:09:10 GrueMaster, well, might be redundantz ... but after i have being told "i go to that sprint because of linaro and i give a sh*t on ubuntu and everything around it" by a linrao employee i think its important so they dont get accidentially into an ubuntu BOF 15:09:12 :P 15:09:53 janimo, do you have any ideas that are missing from the BP idea page you want to add ? 15:09:58 now would be the time ;) 15:10:13 just the livecd evaluation 15:10:28 ah, yeah, add that 8and a registered spec) please 15:10:31 unless we added that a few days ago 15:10:37 i didnt 15:10:43 ok 15:11:14 i dont think we need to talk about images or so today ... 15:11:16 [action] janimo to add live-installer spec 15:11:16 * meetingology janimo to add live-installer spec 15:11:29 so lets look at something that makes sense :) 15:11:31 MOM ! 15:11:46 everyone please pick some merges from mom :) 15:11:48 Oh, speaking of specs... 15:11:53 you mean merges from debian? 15:11:57 NCommander: You might want to fix https://blueprints.launchpad.net/~infinity for me. 15:12:01 (Hint: that's not me) 15:12:05 infinity, i registered yours, please adjust naming 15:12:26 janimo, right, mom.ubuntu.com 15:12:29 and friends 15:12:35 fixed 15:12:37 the parent party so to say :) 15:12:43 infinity, are you being cyber-celeb-squatted? 15:13:07 would be good if each of us could do a few merges before UDS 15:13:35 * ogra_ makes a checkmark on his mental agenda :) 15:13:40 ogra_: mom.ubuntu.com doesn't exist. 15:13:50 Actual link? 15:14:12 heh, it used to be mom. years ago ... 15:14:12 http://merges.ubuntu.com 15:14:20 should be merges.ubuntu.com 15:14:39 ppisati, anything exciting to say about kernels ? 15:15:05 * ogra_ guesses not at that point of the release :) 15:15:08 Other than "We have SRU kernels for testing"...again. 15:15:16 yeah, as usual 15:15:19 not really :) 15:15:20 :P 15:15:37 GrueMaster: btw, we have SRU kernels for testing... again! :) 15:15:39 ac100 kernel (meta later today) in O-proposed 15:15:49 |\o/ 15:15:49 * GrueMaster facepalms. 15:16:03 ah, is mx53 going to be supported more and more in the future? 15:16:06 with fully working sound now, even after suspend 15:16:13 ppisati, likely 15:16:16 ok 15:16:22 but we get the kernel from linaro 1:1 15:16:32 ok 15:16:35 not sure if ubuntuization is expected here 15:16:40 davidm, ^^ ? 15:16:47 (mx53) 15:16:50 GrueMaster: i think i want one of those board then 15:16:59 and, what about the panda 4460? 15:17:02 ppisati, buy one, expense it 15:17:03 still MIA? 15:17:07 yep 15:17:22 but in USA is cheaper, that's why i would like to "exploit" Grue :) 15:17:41 order it to the UDS hotel *g* 15:17:47 i 15:17:57 and i'll bill it to my room, yep 15:17:57 ppisati, we will carry forward the iMX53 support 15:18:02 such as it is 15:18:22 sounds like no ubuntuization then 15:18:31 ppisati: We can talk offline about boards. 15:18:32 ogra_, iMX53 from Linaro should be Ubuntuized 15:18:42 by Linaro 15:18:49 davidm: ok, but what about any new hw we are going to see? 15:18:50 davidm, k, we didnt do that this time, kernel lives in universe 15:19:01 davidm: can we already talk about it, or not? 15:19:15 davidm, oh, by linaro ? 15:19:16 any talk of raspberry pi being there? 15:19:21 Should be some new hardware, nothing I can talk about just yet 15:19:24 i thought they dont do that 15:19:42 ok 15:19:43 wcchandler, if they move to a v7 chip 15:19:45 if and when raspberry switches to an ARMv7 chip we will look at it 15:19:52 *snap* 15:20:15 until then no, Ubuntu is ARM-v7+ only going forward and for sometime now 15:20:39 we only had one v5 release iirc 15:20:58 and only one v6 (which we would have skipped if we had had HW back then) 15:21:04 and one v6 release, only because hardware lagged 15:21:19 * davidm thinks ogra_ types faster then he does 15:21:39 well, we should go as parrots if there is a costume party at UDS :) 15:22:11 anyway, lets move on 15:22:42 i actually have nothing on my mental agenda beyond deciding if we want an IRC meeting during uds 15:23:14 It would be a first if we did. And it would be during a session. 15:23:16 We generally haven't, and I'd think it would be redundent if we did 15:23:25 #vote should we skip the IRC meeting at UDS ? 15:23:25 Please vote on: should we skip the IRC meeting at UDS ? 15:23:25 Public votes can be registered by saying +1, +0 or -1 in channel, (private votes don't work yet, but when they do it will be by messaging the channel followed by +1/-1/+0 to me) 15:23:29 +1 15:23:29 +1 received from ogra_ 15:23:31 01 15:23:31 01 received from NCommander 15:23:32 -1 15:23:32 -1 received from NCommander 15:23:37 -1 15:23:37 -1 received from GrueMaster 15:23:48 err, did you guys read what i wrote ? 15:23:49 +1 15:23:49 +1 received from GrueMaster 15:23:52 heh 15:23:55 +1 15:23:55 +1 received from NCommander 15:24:03 how do I vote to avoid the meeting? 15:24:04 janimo, infinity, davidm 15:24:08 +1 15:24:08 +1 received from janimo 15:24:08 davidm: +1 15:24:10 +1 15:24:10 +1 received from davidm 15:24:12 davidm, plus 1 15:24:18 +1 15:24:18 +1 received from ppisati 15:24:39 * ogra_ shakes infinity ... wake up ! 15:24:43 :) 15:24:44 I like that we can change our votes, nice change from the old bot 15:24:48 #endvote 15:24:48 Voting ended on: should we skip the IRC meeting at UDS ? 15:24:48 Votes for:6 Votes against:0 Abstentions:0 15:24:48 Motion carried 15:25:00 * infinity blinks. 15:25:03 6 were for skipping :) 15:25:06 yay 15:25:11 I was in an LP channel when you started the vote. Sorry. :P 15:25:15 * ogra_ likes to play with the bot :) 15:25:46 ogra_: we could leave if you want some alone time with it. 15:25:50 so thats all i have, if someone has anything beyond that, now is the AOB topic 15:26:07 Well, I have moderately fun news. 15:26:13 ?? 15:26:14 GrueMaster, i'll cuddle with it after the meeting :) 15:26:15 Please add any weekly reports to the wiki page, as we'll be doing these again 15:26:31 Yes do add your weekly reports to the wiki page 15:26:36 The archive skew thing is fixed in trunk, tested on dogfood, and is just waiting on a maintenance window to roll out to cocoplum. 15:26:42 So, we should see it in a day or two. 15:26:46 YEA 15:26:47 * NCommander hugs infinity 15:26:49 \o/ 15:27:01 infinity, nice 15:27:02 I propose we celebrate with pie at UDS 15:27:06 ++ 15:27:07 I like pie. 15:27:09 and beer 15:27:17 OK that is more then just moderately fun news 15:27:23 thanks infinity 15:27:25 davidm: can you make beer and pie happen? :-) 15:27:31 infinity, oh, what about hf ? 15:27:36 Well, it would be super fun news if it had rolled out last night, but they couldn't fit it in. :) 15:28:02 yes, that is a good question where are we with ARMhf? 15:28:13 ogra_: I'm trying not to set my mx53 and panda on fire getting chroots ready and rebootstrapping toolchains (again). 15:28:22 (and again, and again) 15:28:32 doesnt sound fun 15:28:51 It surprising how often you can lock up hardware when you really don't want to. :P 15:29:08 Either way, we'll have things building by/before UDS. And I'm still hoping for "this weekend". 15:29:18 ++ 15:29:37 anything else we need to discuss ? 15:29:43 or should i close ? 15:29:52 I thnk we can close 15:29:55 speak up now ! 15:29:57 k 15:30:00 going once 15:30:08 going twice 15:30:12 ... 15:30:15 sold ! 15:30:20 #endmeeting Generated by MeetBot 0.1.5 (http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AlanBell/mootbot)