#title #ubuntu-meeting Meeting Meeting started by akgraner at 18:00:33 UTC. The full logs are available at http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2011/ubuntu-meeting.2011-09-26-18.00.log.html . == Meeting summary == ''LINK:'' - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuLeadership/Meetings (akgraner, 18:01:17) ''LINK:'' https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuLeadership/Meetings (akgraner, 18:01:28) *- Welcome *Ubuntu Leadership document - ''LINK:'' https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuLeadership/Links (akgraner, 18:24:07) ''ACTION:'' akgraner to add automatic welcome letter to those joining the mailing list (akgraner, 18:26:15) *needs ''ACTION:'' topyli to talk to knome - other team members to talk to other sources as well and see what we come up with (akgraner, 18:32:24) ''ACTION:'' DarkwingDuck to get documentation into BZR (akgraner, 18:35:12) ''ACTION:'' valorie collaborate with DarkwingDuck on documentation efforts (akgraner, 18:36:43) ''ACTION:'' Cheesehead to manage online leadership tutorial sessions (akgraner, 18:43:47) *acknowledgements *next meeting ''ACTION:'' valorie to chair next leadership meeting on 24 OCT 2011 @1800 UTC in -meeting (akgraner, 18:54:00) Meeting ended at 18:55:43 UTC. == Votes == == Action items == * akgraner to add automatic welcome letter to those joining the mailing list * topyli to talk to knome - other team members to talk to other sources as well and see what we come up with * DarkwingDuck to get documentation into BZR * valorie collaborate with DarkwingDuck on documentation efforts * Cheesehead to manage online leadership tutorial sessions * valorie to chair next leadership meeting on 24 OCT 2011 @1800 UTC in -meeting == Action items, by person == * akgraner ** akgraner to add automatic welcome letter to those joining the mailing list * Cheesehead ** Cheesehead to manage online leadership tutorial sessions * topyli ** topyli to talk to knome - other team members to talk to other sources as well and see what we come up with * valorie ** valorie collaborate with DarkwingDuck on documentation efforts ** valorie to chair next leadership meeting on 24 OCT 2011 @1800 UTC in -meeting == People present (lines said) == * akgraner (128) * valorie (35) * topyli (21) * Cheesehead (9) * meetingology (9) * charlie-tca (8) * AlanBell (6) * jussi (2) * IdleOne (1) * Joeb454 (1) * pleia2 (1) * cjohnston (1) == Full Log == 18:00:33 #startmeeting 18:00:33 Meeting started Mon Sep 26 18:00:33 2011 UTC. The chair is akgraner. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AlanBell/mootbot. 18:00:33 18:00:33 Available commands: #accept #accepted #action #agree #agreed #chair #commands #endmeeting #endvote #halp #help #idea #info #link #lurk #meetingname #meetingtopic #nick #progress #rejected #replay #restrictlogs #save #startmeeting #subtopic #topic #unchair #undo #unlurk #vote #voters #votesrequired 18:01:07 here's the agenda for the meeting - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuLeadership/Meetings 18:01:17 [link] - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuLeadership/Meetings 18:01:28 #link https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuLeadership/Meetings 18:01:43 it got it, just doesn't echo it back to you :) 18:01:48 ok clearly I need a lesson on how to use this new bot 18:01:55 o/ 18:01:59 thanks AlanBell I didn't realize that 18:02:02 :-) 18:02:22 ok I'll give it just another minute then we'll get started 18:02:23 it is a bit inconsistent at the moment, but it should be less echoey in principal 18:02:43 o/ 18:02:46 o/ 18:02:54 * charlie-tca waves 18:03:07 o/ 18:03:22 the other one is like Sigourney Weaver in Galaxy Quest 18:04:08 #topic - Welcome 18:04:18 o/ 18:04:27 aww 18:04:29 o/ 18:04:34 * pleia2 waves 18:04:39 o/ 18:04:48 Since this is the first of our meetings I wanted to take a moment and welcome everyone and say thank you to those who have already joined the team 18:05:07 and are working toward the goals of better leadership resources and skills 18:06:17 The main wiki landing page that gives a little more description about the team can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuLeadership 18:06:26 I'd like to thank Amber and David for getting us up and running 18:06:53 and everybody who has already contributed! 18:07:06 every day there is new cool stuff! 18:07:11 Thanks valorie! and thanks to head_victim for working on the wiki pages over the weekend 18:07:27 indeed, the infrastructure is pretty much there 18:07:39 #topic Ubuntu Leadership document - 18:07:52 valorie, this is your item - ready to discuss it? 18:08:22 your item and my item are pretty much the same 18:08:33 oh and if you have comments on a topic please use o/ and wait to be recognized 18:08:46 I would like to know what plans/thoughts are about the docs 18:08:52 ahh ok 18:09:11 then let me go through what we've got and go from there then 18:09:11 I see that we are planning to get the manual into version control 18:09:16 cool 18:09:18 sound ok? 18:09:38 yep 18:10:49 o/ 18:10:50 right now we have a couple active documents we are working on - LoCo Leadership handbook, Leadership skills list and the welcome letter 18:11:01 topyli, go ahead 18:11:49 about the handbook. it sounds like it could easily become an actual book on leadership and not very ubuntu specific. i see this as a danger, how can we handle producing it? 18:12:04 great question 18:12:14 Leadership is universal 18:12:48 no matter what the project - but we can add items that tailor it to the specific needs of the Ubuntu Community 18:13:18 in the case of the LoCo leadership handbook the target audience is LoCo leadership 18:14:01 I am not sure I see a danger in a general book on leadership skills and styles as there will always be some overlap needed 18:14:26 sure, but there already are books like that 18:14:41 yes but not tailored to Ubuntu community 18:14:43 so this is seen as about Loco leadership, and not about all the leadership roles in the ubuntu community? 18:14:48 which is what we are wanting to do 18:14:51 maybe we should steal jono's disposition and tailor it 18:15:23 we can take elements from Art of community - but the goal is to give leaders the skills they don't have 18:15:38 and teach the leadership styles and how it fits with an all volunteer community 18:16:13 we had to start somewhere - so we started with LoCo teams b/c over the past few years I have had several people ask me about leading loco teams 18:16:44 valorie, no it will be for all leadership positions - but again we just picked a place to start 18:17:09 this will not be a requirement but a set or resources for the community 18:17:15 LoCo Handbook would seem like it should be very loco oriented. That doesn't mean limiting this group to loco's, though. 18:17:26 charlie-tca, right 18:17:39 people can take and tailor it to any group 18:18:23 we aren't here to force people to use these skills but to lead by example and be here to help and provide training etc when people ask for it 18:18:35 back to valorie's point 18:18:38 Is it planned then to actually be part of the process that that happens? or just a lets do this and hope others pick it up and taylor it? 18:19:09 yes we want to get it into bzr by module/chapter for proper version control 18:19:35 i can imagine it being versioned for forums/irc/technical... 18:19:37 jussi, the hope is that we get this first resource written and promoted 18:19:55 them encourage and help tailor it to other projects and teams 18:20:03 topyli, exactly 18:21:05 here are the links to the documents in case someone doesn't have them already - Leadership Handbook - https://docs.google.com/document/d/1_5CJYkBSaoN4l7L8mIPKoZNxzPrr16NOZP12Ln_8EXg/edit?hl=en_US 18:21:25 skills list - https://docs.google.com/document/d/13VOmTgEqCzIW8oITV2d5fIRD3xsiKRVMd39OUlpx6xQ/edit?hl=en_US 18:21:29 cool 18:21:40 welcome letter - https://docs.google.com/document/d/1da8Moj340VcvzIQuX8XUm3OXDZpb9l6bfxz8vkvIZM4/edit?hl=en_US 18:22:19 any other questions or comments about the documents we've started so far? 18:22:44 Also I plan on blogging weekly about various leadership skills and styles each Monday 18:23:00 so if you want more information on something let me know and I'll add it to the list 18:23:50 and the wiki page will contain links to all blog posts about or from the leadership team stuff 18:24:07 https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuLeadership/Links 18:24:28 that is very useful 18:24:42 Anyone opposed to sending the welcome letter to members who join the mailing list? 18:24:57 I can set it up to send it automatically when someone joins 18:25:22 Just means we'll have to be careful to make sure it's always up to date :-) 18:25:31 sounds great! 18:25:51 go ahead, it's a good idea 18:26:07 +1 18:26:15 #action akgraner to add automatic welcome letter to those joining the mailing list 18:26:15 * meetingology akgraner to add automatic welcome letter to those joining the mailing list 18:26:32 ok any other comments about documentation before I move on? 18:27:12 #needs 18:27:21 #topic needs 18:27:37 Logo 18:27:37 Getting the documentation into BZR by module 18:27:37 Recruiting more members 18:28:06 these are just a few of the needs I listed - I am sure there are more but for this meeting I didn't want to go over an hour 18:28:21 can someone work on getting a logo designed? 18:28:32 that meets the branding guidelines 18:28:47 anyone? 18:29:13 i could talk to knome, he's good but i don't know if he's interested 18:29:48 cool - could someone contact the Canonical design team and see if someone there would be interested in helping 18:30:03 I know they are busy right now - but at least we can get it on their radar 18:30:52 Basically let's all explore the contacts we have with various design people and see what we can come back with 18:30:58 how does that sound? 18:31:11 Let's see what we can do between now and UDS 18:31:12 ++ knome being good. 18:32:01 +1 18:32:10 +1 18:32:24 #action topyli to talk to knome - other team members to talk to other sources as well and see what we come up with 18:32:24 * meetingology topyli to talk to knome - other team members to talk to other sources as well and see what we come up with 18:32:33 topyli, is that ok with you? 18:32:49 sounds good to me 18:32:53 thank you! 18:33:10 next - we need someone who can add the chapters into BZR 18:33:25 I'm not a documentation person, but I am willing to learn 18:33:49 if someone can take the lead on this that would be great 18:34:12 Any documentation guru's in the group 18:34:29 DarkwingDuck is a natural 18:34:32 I know DarkwingDuck said he would help with this as well - I know he's been a little busy 18:34:49 he just pushed the kubuntu docs for 11.10 18:34:55 but can some folks contact him and give him a hand 18:35:05 I will gladly do so 18:35:12 #action DarkwingDuck to get documentation into BZR 18:35:12 * meetingology DarkwingDuck to get documentation into BZR 18:35:31 I just volun-told him :-) 18:35:33 I'm on the Kub. docs team 18:35:42 I guess I will have to learn BZR yet, then. 18:36:01 the beginner bits weren't hard 18:36:03 valorie, awesome - can you talk to DarkwingDuck and you all come up with plan 18:36:09 will do 18:36:12 thanks 18:36:37 I think the big bit is the docbook-ification 18:36:43 #action valorie collaborate with DarkwingDuck on documentation efforts 18:36:43 * meetingology valorie collaborate with DarkwingDuck on documentation efforts 18:36:52 we might need some group help with that 18:37:02 Maybe mallard would help with it? 18:37:17 I'm getting a class at UDS on how to do this 18:37:24 mallard and DarkwingDuck sound like a match made in Heaven! 18:37:28 :-) 18:37:32 haha 18:37:46 ok recruitment 18:37:48 akgraner: subscribe me to it? 18:38:02 charlie-tca, ok will do (the class you mean) 18:38:08 right, the class 18:38:15 will do 18:39:13 we've had a lot of people show interest in this group - we need to make sure everyone knows this is a place for resources and training and learning about leadership 18:39:24 it's nothing that leaders will be forced to go through 18:39:36 but we want to know what people need from this group. 18:40:15 I'll email all the leadership councils and boards and loco-contacts but if you all could forward that email once I send it to the list that would be great 18:40:50 any thoughts on what else we can do at this moment to gain more interest in the group? 18:41:13 there will be many things we can do once we are more organized and have more resources in place 18:41:21 but for now - any suggestions? 18:41:44 o/ 18:41:58 Cheesehead, go ahead 18:42:15 I'm interested in providing... 18:42:26 small-group sessions on IRC of specific skills. 18:42:35 So if anyone looks at that skill list... 18:42:50 and sees something they want to learn or teach , please let me know 18:42:51 +1 one for that - we would like to have a series of leadership based classes 18:42:53 .. 18:43:32 oh yes, small sessions on specific topics 18:43:47 #action Cheesehead to manage online leadership tutorial sessions 18:43:47 * meetingology Cheesehead to manage online leadership tutorial sessions 18:43:57 rgr 18:44:17 Cheesehead, that sound good to you - you can clear the dates with the classroom team and start rolling them out 18:44:40 I am sure there are many people on the team already who are ready to go forth and share various skills 18:45:06 I hope that we'll be advertising to *all* leaders in the community 18:45:11 not just loco leaders 18:45:17 so if you are interested in teaching leadership skills online talk to Cheesehead 18:45:20 valorie, we are 18:45:44 because really, aren't we interested in growing the group as well as providing a good skillset? 18:45:46 especially aspiring ones, i would assume 18:45:50 cool 18:45:51 all councils, boards, and team contacts are getting emails 18:46:02 \o/ 18:46:35 valorie, yes - much like UW is a springboard to the community - this is a springboard to leaderhip mentoring and better leaders 18:46:39 make sense 18:47:17 akgraner's blog (and hopefully all our blogs!) works to getting new blood inspired i hope 18:47:18 we want current, new and aspiring leaders to all be part of this team and learn from each other 18:47:28 topyli, yes exactly 18:47:47 just make sure when you blog about leadership and the team you add the link to the wiki page 18:47:49 :-) 18:47:59 akgraner: that's a great crystalization of the team mission, right there 18:48:10 yep :-) 18:48:21 yeah put it at the top of the wiki page :) 18:48:34 #topic acknowledgements 18:48:54 Again thank you to everyone who has helped so far in everything that you have been doing! 18:48:57 Great work! 18:49:22 #topic next meeting 18:49:42 do we want to have monthly meetings or bi-monthly meetings? 18:49:49 thanks all 18:49:53 Monthly 18:50:06 +1 for monthly from me 18:50:15 +1 here 18:50:28 +1, we change if it doesn't feel right 18:50:35 I'll check the calendar and see what is going on the last week of October 18:50:50 people will be getting ready for UDS but... 18:51:27 oh dear, it's last week of the month again. where did my time go? 18:51:27 Oct 24th at 1800 UTC is open 18:52:08 so let's set it for 24 Oct 1800 UTC and see how it works out... 18:52:24 any volunteers to chair the next meeting 18:52:47 o/ 18:53:07 valorie, are you voluteering or do you have a comment 18:53:21 I've never done it, but can pick AlanBell's brain 18:53:28 volunteering 18:53:31 valorie, it's easy :-) 18:53:35 * AlanBell reads back 18:53:47 oh yeah, help yourself to my brain 18:53:51 I'm not going to UDS, so it's perfect 18:54:00 #action valorie to chair next leadership meeting on 24 OCT 2011 @1800 UTC in -meeting 18:54:00 * meetingology valorie to chair next leadership meeting on 24 OCT 2011 @1800 UTC in -meeting 18:54:13 anything else before I end the meeting? 18:54:31 how did you think about distributing the minutes? 18:54:44 it could be advertising too if you distribute them widely 18:54:47 mailing list, wiki page 18:54:57 as well as social media :-) and blogs 18:55:10 ok good enough :) 18:55:39 Thanks everyone! 18:55:43 #endmeeting Generated by MeetBot 0.1.5 (http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AlanBell/mootbot)