15:04:21 #startmeeting 15:04:21 Meeting started Wed Aug 31 15:04:21 2011 UTC. The chair is slangasek. 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Got all the configuration files automatically generated, just need to script the VMs now. 15:05:35 http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology is a documentation page I wrote yesterday 15:05:37 - Bunch of Edubuntu uploads, replacing the old LTSP live by a new one that works. Tweaked unity-greeter and unity, changed the wallpaper, ... 15:05:40 - Started poking at Ubiquity, fixing a few bugs. 15:05:42 - This week 15:05:45 - Some more discussion with cyphermox on DHCPv6, I think we now have the final implementation of what we want in NM. Still needs testing though. 15:05:48 - Mostly worked on Ubiquity, trying to get the bug list a bit shorter (pretty difficult considering the number of new bugs we get every hour...) 15:05:51 - Started looking at bug 575469 and bug 234409 in friendly-recovery. Got it moved to /lib here, just need to patch the scripts and do some testing. 15:05:53 Launchpad bug 575469 in friendly-recovery (Ubuntu Oneiric) "recovery mode mounts filesystems read-write rather than read-only" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/575469 15:05:54 - ISO testing and Edubuntu beta1 release. 15:05:55 Launchpad bug 234409 in friendly-recovery (Ubuntu) "friendly-recovery violates the Linux Filesystem Hierarchy Standard" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/234409 15:05:56 - Next week 15:05:59 - Monday is public holiday in Canada (Labour day) 15:06:02 - Get friendly-recovery reviewed and uploaded 15:06:04 - Finish to automate IPv6 testing and get that running daily. 15:06:07 - Hopefully some time for WebLive work, still need to get an Oneiric server working (only have Natty at the moment) 15:06:10 - Continue poking at TPM. 15:06:11 (done) 15:06:13 * stgraber loves his new irssi script/plugin, copy/paste always work now :) 15:06:37 lp_stockereplies.user.js to work with new Launchpad forms 15:06:37 Uploaded new version of firefox-lp-improvements 15:06:45 Bug triage of iso-testing bug reports 15:06:45 ubiquity merge proposal modifying how bugs are tagged oem-config 15:06:45 apport merge proposal preventing bug reports due to hardware error on /, /usr or /var devices 15:06:48 apport merge proposal creating a DuplicateSignature for ubiquity bug reports and redirecting some bugs to grub-install 15:06:53 updated update-manager apport source package hook to ask whether or not it is a dist-upgrade and include files in /var/log/dist-upgrade 15:06:55 wrote up test case for SRU for bug 814727 15:06:57 Launchpad bug 814727 in apport (Ubuntu Natty) "Do not report package installation failures that contain a segmentation fault" [High,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/814727 15:07:02 [done] 15:07:18 - Short week; public holiday on Monday 15:07:18 - Fixing bugs in ubiquity and expanding the test coverage along the way. 15:07:18 - Currently fighting GtkIconView which in GTK3 has decided to completely ignore the length of text when determining a width and goes entirely on the size of the (in our case nonexistent) icon. 15:07:18 - Travelling to SF for Plumbers this Friday then on holiday for the first half of the week. 15:07:18 (done) 15:09:31 * FTBFS fixes (gnuradio, php5; passed the buck on php5 after it still FTBFS) 15:09:34 * follow-through on ia32-libs/wine 15:09:37 * now tested with all the proprietary 32-bit apps I can find 15:09:38 {done} 15:09:40 * fakeroot sync to fix a regression when using Xvfb at build-time 15:09:43 * on vacation grinding gears in a manual transmission rental car in France next week 15:10:04 Short week (bank holiday). 15:10:05 Ongoing NBS/FTBFS fun. 15:10:05 Several ubiquity test fixes. 15:10:05 Working on getting new-style Chinese edition CD images autobuilt. 15:10:05 Roving consultancy on bugs discovered during beta-1 preparation. 15:10:06 Initial work on bug 420080 (getting partman-crypto to allow reusing existing encrypted volumes). 15:10:09 Prepared a plausible-looking fix for bug 774089 (nasty misinstallation on some Macs); sent private mail asking for testing. 15:10:11 Launchpad bug 420080 in partman-crypto (Ubuntu) "Configure encrypted volumes destroys existing data" [Critical,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/420080 15:10:12 Some UEFI testing. Found a fatal bug in the kernel configuration; now fixed, have partially retested but not completely as yet. 15:10:13 Launchpad bug 774089 in grub2 (Ubuntu) "Booting fails 3 times, works every fourth time after new install of Natty Narwhal amd64 on Macbook Pro" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/774089 15:10:15 Fixed IPv4/IPv6 dual-stack breakage during installation (queued for post-beta-1). Slightly worried that nobody seems to have noticed this before me - stgraber, is this a gap in our testing? 15:10:19 Fixed kexec-tools bug 401405 (fails to install in chroots). 15:10:20 Launchpad bug 401405 in kexec-tools (Ubuntu) "kexec-tools should not exit when there is no /boot/grub" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/401405 15:10:22 Finally got LP dpkg-xz-support branch landed, and announced it. multiarch-translations branch is blocked on bug 809123. 15:10:23 Launchpad bug 809123 in Launchpad itself "we cannot deploy DB schema changes live" [High,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/809123 15:10:25 done 15:10:32 last week: short week due to vacation; this week: bug 832756 uploaded; currently working on bug 832864 and bug 831739. next week: monday is usa holiday (labor day, sans extra 'u'). done. 15:10:34 Launchpad bug 832756 in python-scipy (Ubuntu Oneiric) "python-scipy version 0.9.0+dfsg1-1 failed to build in oneiric" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/832756 15:10:36 Launchpad bug 832864 in pyside (Ubuntu Oneiric) "pyside version 1.0.4-1 failed to build in oneiric" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/832864 15:10:37 Launchpad bug 831739 in python3.2 (Ubuntu) "package python3 3.2-3 [modified: usr/share/doc/python3/changelog.Debian.gz] failed to install/upgrade: subprocess installed pre-removal script returned error exit status 134" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/831739 15:11:20 cjwatson: what was the specific case failing with dual-stack in d-i? 15:11:47 ev: does GtkIconView look like it needs a change in gtk3? 15:12:22 stgraber: it didn't work at all, because dhclient-script was flushing the IPv6 addresses when it got an IPv4 address 15:12:29 slangasek: I don't follow what you're asking, but I've just fixed the issue in a roundabout fashion. Just trying to find a way of probing whether the text is wrapping in the individual cells so I can construct a proper test case for it. 15:12:42 slangasek: http://paste.ubuntu.com/678954/ 15:12:46 which was because I sent the bug report to Debian fixing that but forgot to actually upload it to Ubuntu *blush* 15:13:09 cjwatson: ah right, well, we didn't test dhclient before in d-i. All the tests at the sprint were with wide-dhcp. 15:13:23 stgraber: dhclient is still used for IPv4 15:13:32 wide-dhcp is just for IPv6 15:13:45 this is the exact setup we tested at the sprint 15:13:48 ah, right, weird we didn't notice then... 15:13:52 we did 15:13:59 as I said, I forgot to upload one of the pieces of this to Ubuntu 15:14:11 ev: meaning, if this is a regression vs. GTK+2.0, should we be trying to get it fixed in gtk itself and is that feasible for oneiric 15:14:25 slangasek: we're abusing GtkIconView here 15:14:27 ok 15:14:28 by testing I meant testing of actual Ubuntu images rather than the test ones we put together 15:14:31 normal people would have an icon visible 15:14:38 we're just using it to lay out a few bits of text 15:14:58 * slangasek nods 15:15:22 plus I'd sooner say, lets have a consistent language page (between ubiquity and oem-config) before I fought GTK+ upstream to accept patches for this 15:15:37 yeah, that page in oem-config is horrible 15:15:46 indeed 15:15:49 cjwatson: right, I've currently been focusing on the NetworkManager implementation, only started automating IPv6 testing for d-i and post-install last week. Should have that ready and running daily next week. 15:16:14 stgraber: ah, right - yep, sounds good. run beta-1 through it and it should fail :-) 15:16:24 cjwatson: will do :) 15:17:05 [TOPIC] Bugs 15:17:20 bdmurray: are there any bugs in oneiric? :) 15:17:50 slangasek: a couple of have come to my attention recently 15:18:10 mterry brought up bug 407862 the other day 15:18:11 Launchpad bug 407862 in rsyslog (Ubuntu) "Messages not being sent to system logs" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/407862 15:18:48 it could use some further investigation 15:19:46 any volunteers to look into that? 15:20:06 lightning round already finished? 15:20:32 oh phooey, did I cut you off? 15:20:36 [TOPIC] lightning round 15:20:41 sorry, I thought you'd already gone 15:20:42 doko: 15:21:08 - OpenJDK-[67] multiarch installations 15:21:08 - gcc-4.4/gcj-4.4/gnat-4.4 multiarch patch update 15:21:08 - Test rebuild finished this weekend. 15:21:08 - Filed remaining bug reports for build failures 15:21:08 - Walked through all dep-wait packages, resolved a lot, and filed reports for the others. 15:21:09 - Synced/fixed ~80 packages last week. 15:21:10 - ARM test rebuild finished this Monday. 15:21:12 -- 15:21:38 are there bugs filed/tagged for the arm-specific failures? 15:22:51 no, asked the arm guys to do that 15:23:03 rsalveti, janimo 15:23:15 ok 15:23:31 [TOPIC] Bugs 15:24:13 back to bug #407862 - any takers? 15:24:14 Launchpad bug 407862 in rsyslog (Ubuntu) "Messages not being sent to system logs" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/407862 15:24:41 slangasek: i can look into it, as i get tired of/blocked on bug 832864 15:24:42 Launchpad bug 832864 in pyside (Ubuntu Oneiric) "pyside version 1.0.4-1 failed to build in oneiric" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/832864 15:24:54 barry: thanks 15:25:05 iso testing is on going but bug 837681 kind of jumped out at me 15:25:07 Launchpad bug 837681 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "Automatic partitioning corrupts GUID partition table (GPT)" [Critical,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/837681 15:26:29 and then there is bug 837287 and I'm not quite certain where that one belongs 15:26:30 yeah, that was in my lightning round report 15:26:31 Launchpad bug 837287 in casper (Ubuntu Oneiric) "live cd panel / top menu is cropped" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/837287 15:26:36 (837681 - I'm working on it) 15:26:47 oh, wait, it wasn't, sorry. it should have been. 15:26:48 cjwatson: oops, sorry I missed it 15:26:52 no, my bad 15:27:20 bdmurray: 15:11 < ev> right, 829987 is fixed (it was just the wrong function prototype for GTK3 - passing the data argument is now required) 15:27:50 bdmurray: oops, broken copy/paste ... 15:28:03 bdmurray: IRC being super slow at the moment... sorry for that ;) 15:28:54 837287> strange. Can anyone else reproduce this? 15:29:11 slangasek: I did it was very narrow but it was clickable too 15:29:17 ok 15:29:28 reproduced on similar or different video hardware? 15:29:47 submitter was doing it in virtualbox 15:29:57 slangasek: on a kvm virtual machine 15:30:21 * slangasek nods 15:30:31 maybe an issue with the 2d fallback? 15:30:48 cjwatson, ev, stgraber: does that sound like a place to start with this bug? 15:30:56 or is it more likely to be ubiquity itself? 15:31:15 the 2D fallback is totally broken for me in kvm right now, so hard to tell 15:31:30 (there are bugs on the iso.qa report that look relevant, so I haven't re-reported as yet) 15:31:32 ah, hmm 15:31:56 the panel getting cropped is probably due to the indicator path being wrong 15:32:00 thanks to an ABI bump again 15:32:03 Mario fixed that in trunk 15:32:11 ok - ubiquity then? 15:32:24 in fact that fix has been uploaded hasn't it? 15:32:57 I agree that's likely ubiquity not casper, in any event 15:34:05 poked the bug 15:34:10 bdmurray: anything else? 15:34:19 slangasek: that's it for today 15:34:31 ok, what's with launchpad now removing milestones by default every time I change the assigned package? :/ 15:36:09 anyone else have any bugs they're concerned about and would like to bring up? 15:36:28 wrt beta in particular - though it's probably too late to get any fixes in for beta1 now unless it's omgkittens 15:36:55 * ev has to run off and help Christian with Unity/nvidia/compiz issues, back in a tick 15:38:04 [TOPIC] AOB 15:38:10 anything else? 15:38:24 no such bugs that we can do anything about. bug 813365 (I think) is giving me constant grief and making it difficult to be productive. 15:38:26 Launchpad bug 813365 in unity "compiz leaks memory, becomes sluggish and unusable after using it for few hours" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/813365 15:38:35 I'm taking a long weekend starting tomorrow afternoon and returning Tuesday 15:39:01 when you try to switch workspaces and your entire desktop sometimes randomly hangs for 10+ seconds, it's pretty bad 15:39:21 heh, ouch 15:39:55 (workaround: kill compiz and then rearrange all my windows back the way I want them ...) 15:40:03 ouch 15:42:14 * ev back 15:42:30 ev: bringing some good news to share in our AOB? :) 15:42:46 hah, I bring hate for compiz 15:45:02 well, that doesn't sound like good news :) 15:45:03 same as my hate, or new hate? 15:47:44 it might be the same hate as you 15:47:48 he's been having trouble all day 15:47:55 since upgrading to oneiric 15:48:58 unity 3D hangs on launch with nvidia 173, it's exceedingly slow with 96, and the free driver doesn't work work with unity 2d (no textures for windows) 15:49:10 with 96 and unity 3d his system becomes largely unusable after a few minutes 15:49:27 dx pointed him at pitti, I think 15:49:29 madness 15:49:56 2d + textures - I'm confused 15:50:04 what textures are expected with unity 2d? 15:50:17 textures is the wrong word 15:50:21 windows were invisible 15:50:25 heh 15:51:59 will Christian raise a bug on the nvidia drivers? 15:53:36 anyway, I suppose we can take that back to #-devel :) 15:53:40 #endmeeting