#title #ubuntu-meeting Meeting Meeting started by mdz at 18:02:16 UTC. The full logs are available at http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2011/ubuntu-meeting.2011-08-25-18.02.log.html . == Meeting summary == ''LINK:'' https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TechnicalBoardAgenda (mdz, 18:02:24) ''LINK:'' https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TechnicalBoardAgenda (mdz, 18:02:31) ''LINK:'' https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TechnicalBoardAgenda (mdz, 18:03:21) *Action review *UDD bug spam on technical-board@ (mdz) ''LINK:'' https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/technical-board/2011-August/001008.html (mdz, 18:06:35) ''LINK:'' https://launchpad.net/~udd (mdz, 18:07:33) *AOB *Membership Council voting procedures ''LINK:'' https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/technical-board/2011-July/000998.html (mdz, 18:09:46) *AOB Meeting ended at 18:18:07 UTC. == Votes == == Action items == * (none) == People present (lines said) == * mdz (46) * pitti (25) * cjwatson (16) * meetingology (9) * charlie-tca (2) == Full Log == 18:02:16 #startmeeting 18:02:16 Meeting started Thu Aug 25 18:02:16 2011 UTC. The chair is mdz. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AlanBell/mootbot. 18:02:16 Useful Commands: #topic #action #link #idea #voters #vote #chair #action #agreed #help #info #endmeeting. 18:02:24 https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TechnicalBoardAgenda 18:02:31 #link https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TechnicalBoardAgenda 18:02:39 meetingology, you're confusing 18:02:39 mdz: Error: "you're" is not a valid command. 18:02:44 meetingology, #link https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TechnicalBoardAgenda 18:02:44 mdz: Error: "#link" is not a valid command. 18:02:53 you just told me it was a useful command! 18:03:21 [link] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TechnicalBoardAgenda 18:03:27 the links happen without feedback now 18:03:31 I see 18:03:35 so the [foo] syntax is gone? 18:03:37 [topic] Action review 18:03:37 TOPIC: Action review 18:03:43 still usable 18:03:44 The only action is for cjwatson and he couldn't make it to the meeting 18:03:46 ah, apparently not 18:03:54 he sent in a draft of the brainstorm review topics though 18:03:58 and I sent him some feedback 18:04:07 he picked some interesting ones 18:04:31 looked like a good list 18:04:34 [topic] UDD bug spam on technical-board@ (mdz) 18:04:34 TOPIC: UDD bug spam on technical-board@ (mdz) 18:04:45 in scanning the mailing list for this meeting, I noticed there was a lot of bug spam 18:04:46 ooh, yes, that's bothering 18:04:59 discard_if_subject /developer-membership-board (moderator request|post)|\[Merge\]|\[Blueprint / 18:05:01 discard_if_from /developer-membership-board/ 18:05:03 discard_if_from noreply@launchpad.net 18:05:06 ^ in case it's useful for you, too 18:05:11 heh 18:05:12 I have that in my .listadmin 18:05:17 can we fix it further upstream? 18:05:22 but I don't filter the UDD bugs 18:05:31 as sometimes there might be a legitimate reason to get bug mail on the list 18:05:36 right 18:05:41 but these bugs don't need to go out to t-b 18:05:51 we're getting them because techboard is the owner of the udd team or something 18:06:10 right 18:06:20 I meant, there might be bugs where people subscribe the TB to 18:06:35 example: 18:06:35 https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/technical-board/2011-August/001008.html 18:06:43 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu 18:06:45 Distributed Development Developers, which is subscribed to Ubuntu 18:06:45 Distributed Development. 18:07:17 (I'm here for a bit after all, unless I get called away.) techboard could continue to be the owner of udd without being an actual member of it 18:07:22 I think that might fix it 18:07:33 https://launchpad.net/~udd 18:07:45 Shall I try that? 18:07:57 oh, please 18:08:01 I'm an administrator of that team independently, so I can restore the previous state if it goes wrong 18:08:07 oh, no, I'm merely a member 18:08:11 * pitti cleans the list backlog in the meantime 18:08:17 currently techboard is owner and member (admin) 18:08:19 but I'm sure that James or Martin or Robert can help if necessary 18:08:45 deactivated 18:08:55 beat me to it 18:08:57 [topic] AOB 18:08:57 TOPIC: AOB 18:08:59 any other topics? 18:09:07 28.07.11 21:23 Kees Cook Membership Council voting procedures 18:09:12 is there still something to be done for this? 18:09:22 [topic] Membership Council voting procedures 18:09:22 TOPIC: Membership Council voting procedures 18:09:23 I missed the past few meetings due to holiday, conference, etc. 18:09:46 [link] https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/technical-board/2011-July/000998.html 18:10:00 I only looked for items since the previous meeting 18:10:18 AFAIK it is in the CC's court now 18:10:39 ah, ok 18:10:45 just wanted to know the current status of this 18:11:22 [topic] AOB 18:11:22 TOPIC: AOB 18:12:00 thanks for your feedback on my brainstorm mail, mdz 18:12:03 np 18:12:20 what did you mean about "disable by default for good reasons"? you mean not playing a login sound? 18:12:57 btw, we got clearance for this for oneiric 18:13:01 we'll disable it by default 18:13:03 at last! 18:13:45 cjwatson, I mean sounds for events in general 18:13:49 I expect some people will still choose to turn it back on; presumably at least some of those who voted for that brainstorm item actually like having sound 18:13:50 I think the login sound is the sole exception for accessibility 18:14:05 pitti, oh? nice 18:14:18 that makes the sound theme a niche concern IMHO 18:14:43 I think most people don't turn it on 18:14:54 (proof by assumption) 18:15:04 or, rather, turn it off 18:15:07 I was trying not to apply very much editorial discretion to that list, TBH; I just picked the top ten 18:15:20 did either of you apply any manual selection before? 18:15:25 cjwatson, sure, I wasn't questioning the selection 18:15:28 just the suggested response type 18:15:35 ah, I see 18:15:46 right, you mean it's maybe not worth a big push to fix 18:15:48 cjwatson: mildly; I looked at the top 15 and discarded the ones which seemed totally unrealistic 18:15:51 ok, I can go with that 18:16:15 it interested me that a unity lens was the top suggestion 18:17:23 any other business for the meeting? 18:18:07 #endmeeting Generated by MeetBot 0.1.4 (http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AlanBell/mootbot)