#title #ubuntu-meeting Meeting Meeting started by popey at 20:00:17 UTC. The full logs are available at http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2011/ubuntu-meeting.2011-08-16-20.00.log.html . == Meeting summary == *Ubuntu UK LoCo re-approval. ''LINK:'' https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/ReApprovalApplication2011 (AlanBell, 20:05:19) ''LINK:'' https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/TeamReports/ (popey, 20:12:09) ''LINK:'' https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/TeamReports (itnet7, 20:12:53) *Ubuntu California Re-Approval ''LINK:'' https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CaliforniaTeam/ApprovalApplication2011 (popey, 20:23:06) ''LINK:'' https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CaliforniaTeam/ApprovalApplication2011 (popey, 20:23:26) *Ubuntu Arizona Reapproval ''LINK:'' https://wiki.kubuntu.org/ArizonaTeam/ApprovalApplicationrenewal (czajkowski, 20:41:57) ''LINK:'' https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ArizonaTeam/ApprovalApplicationrenewal (popey, 20:42:04) Meeting ended at 20:58:14 UTC. == Votes == * on Ubuntu California Team Re-Approval For: 3 Against: 0 Abstained: 0 * on Ubuntu Arizona Re-Approval For: 3 Against: 0 Abstained: 0 * on re-approval of Ubuntu UK loco For: 3 Against: 0 Abstained: 0 == Action items == * (none) == People present (lines said) == * popey (103) * czajkowski (33) * meetingology (31) * AlanBell (30) * pleia2 (24) * leogg (24) * itnet7 (24) * Dazed_75 (20) * toddc (20) * huats (18) * scott_ev (17) * DarkwingDuck (15) * bj0 (7) * TheOpenSourcerer (5) * triunity (4) * jtatum (4) * bigcalm (4) * christel (3) * fuzzyvader (3) * brobostigon (3) * Yorokobi (3) * bigcalm_lappy486 (2) * hutchnate (2) * stuart (2) * danfish (1) * isz_id (1) * AndroUser (1) * philipballew (1) * StevenR (1) * jledbetter (1) * reidrac (1) * daubershome (1) == Full Log == 20:00:17 #startmeeting 20:00:17 Meeting started Tue Aug 16 20:00:17 2011 UTC. The chair is popey. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AlanBell/mootbot. 20:00:17 Useful Commands: #topic #action #link #idea #voters #vote #chair #action #agreed #help #info #endmeeting. 20:00:21 ping czajkowski itnet7 huats leogg paultag 20:00:56 Welcome to the LoCo Council Meeting, our agenda is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LoCoCouncilAgenda 20:01:00 hello :) 20:01:12 o/ 20:01:12 Aloha 20:01:25 howdie 20:01:31 hello 20:01:33 Hey there! 20:01:37 Hiya 20:01:41 paultag explained he may not be around and has already given us his votes via email. So when the time comes we'll be okay there. 20:01:53 huats: you about? 20:01:54 Mornin 20:02:05 alo 20:02:12 hey 20:02:30 Good afternoon, everyone. 20:02:52 mhelmke ping 20:02:53 huats: did say he would be here 20:03:03 give him just a minute or two 20:03:09 yup 20:03:58 \o 20:04:14 I am here 20:04:17 :) 20:04:18 \o/ 20:04:19 sorry for the late arrival 20:04:21 :) 20:04:23 np 20:04:39 right, we'll begin then. 20:04:48 #topic Ubuntu UK LoCo re-approval. 20:04:48 TOPIC: Ubuntu UK LoCo re-approval. 20:04:53 AlanBell: you about? ;) 20:05:09 I am, good evening all 20:05:13 Now, to be clear, myself and czajkowski wont take part in the vote on UK because we're both in the team 20:05:19 https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/ReApprovalApplication2011 20:05:20 but huats itnet7 and paultag will vote 20:05:36 is anyone here to support the UK team re-approval application? 20:05:41 o/ 20:05:45 o/ 20:05:47 o/ 20:05:49 o/ 20:05:58 o/ 20:06:31 itnet7 / huats do you have any questions or comments for AlanBell ? 20:06:42 Hi :) 20:06:44 o/ 20:07:10 popey: thinking... The Application really spells out a lot 20:07:17 yeah, have some time to read :D 20:07:22 I'll ask a question then ☺ 20:07:29 AlanBell: What would you say is the teams biggest challenge? 20:07:54 o/ 20:08:22 well there are a number of challenges, we have a lot of awesome individuals and we need to do more as a team to bring more people in 20:08:46 AlanBell, what do you do to get people involved in the team? 20:09:01 I know there are *loads* of UK people in #ubuntu and the english language forums who are not really involved in the loco activities as such 20:09:49 leogg: we have a lovely friendly IRC channel where we provide support and organise things, we announce events to our mailing list, website and loco directory page 20:10:10 AlanBell, I am REALLY impressed by the vitality of your LoCo : Ubuntu business is terrific, I am a regular listener of the podcast...So congrats for your great work ! 20:10:14 we organise real world events like geeknics and conferences 20:10:33 Ditto 20:10:38 yeah, the Ubuntu in Business event was buzzing, we should do another one of them 20:10:44 AlanBell, the geeknics and oggcamp are really cool 20:10:50 quite a bit of work in the planning though 20:11:14 oggcamp was such fun :) 20:11:32 Awesome work, I have no other questions 20:11:33 AlanBell, team reports? do you have any? I can't find them on the application 20:11:48 AlanBell, honnestly Ubuntu Business is something that many LoCo should consider, "mine" (ubuntu-fr) being one of them :) 20:11:53 we do have team reports, we used them when writing the application, one sec . . . 20:12:09 https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/TeamReports/ 20:12:18 Is there plans to run more Ubuntu in Business? 20:12:19 popey, thanks 20:12:24 AlanBell, do you have any interactions with locos around ? 20:12:31 czajkowski: just an aspiration at the moment 20:12:43 huats: other loco teams you mean? 20:12:53 [LINK]https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/TeamReports 20:13:00 lol 20:13:02 yep 20:13:06 my bad 20:13:23 the wiki is broken, it doesn't show ones after april, but they are there 20:13:39 oh, it does, just in a dumb order 20:13:56 huats: we have members from a number of countries, and several other LoCo teams are using some of our meeting innovations (agenda formats and bots) 20:14:09 I must say I'm a big fan of uupc, based on that alone I'll give you +1 :) 20:14:13 lol 20:14:18 uupc is teh awesome 20:14:19 hehe 20:14:27 :) 20:14:58 I've just one question, how do you plan to reach out to get more people involved in your team, and get more of the canonical folks who are based in the UK involved? 20:15:22 huats: there is a list at the end of our reapproval application of some things we do for other locos 20:16:10 AlanBell, I was not meaing things you are doing for other teams, but things you are doing with other teams 20:16:17 (like joint meetings) 20:16:43 (read meaning not meaing) 20:16:45 czajkowski: I would indeed love to get more canonical folk involved, we get together at the release parties, but doing more than that would be great 20:16:59 I did do some fire breathing with aqarius, that must count for something 20:17:09 haha 20:17:25 LOL 20:17:27 huats: hmm, interesting, we are a bit of an island in that sense and the litteral sense 20:17:37 AlanBell: it seems there has been quite a flurry of activity in the last few months, possibly ahead of this meeting. How do you keep that momentum up? 20:17:44 Evening - sorry I'm late. 20:17:49 AlanBell, I know that would be the interesting thing :) 20:17:49 hi TheOpenSourcerer 20:18:17 popey: I want to speed it up faster 20:18:29 How? 20:18:59 more events, working more with the people who do stuff in other areas of the country like the Manchester stuff 20:19:21 ok 20:19:24 I want to find a way in to the universities, the computing societies I tried so far were unresponsive 20:19:36 czajkowski / leogg / huats / itnet7 any more questions? 20:19:37 links with hackspaces etc 20:19:45 nope I'm good thanks. 20:19:49 I went to the london hackspace last month to see what they are up to 20:19:52 I'm ready to vote 20:19:52 * daubershome is late... sorry" 20:20:24 #voters leogg huats itnet7 20:20:24 Current voters: huats itnet7 leogg 20:20:24 leogg: ditto 20:20:31 ok 20:20:37 here goes. 20:20:38 +1 20:20:41 haha 20:20:44 not so fast :D 20:20:51 popey, come onnnnnnn 20:20:53 :D 20:20:56 #vote on re-approval of Ubuntu UK loco 20:20:56 Please vote on: on re-approval of Ubuntu UK loco 20:20:56 Public votes can be registered by saying +1, +0 or -1 in channel, (private votes don't work yet, but when they do it will be by messaging the channel followed by +1/-1/+0 to me) 20:21:00 +1 20:21:00 +1 received from itnet7 20:21:06 +1 20:21:06 +1 received from leogg 20:21:08 +1 20:21:08 +1 received from huats 20:21:12 #endvote 20:21:12 Voting ended on: on re-approval of Ubuntu UK loco 20:21:12 Votes for:3 Votes against:0 Abstentions:0 20:21:12 Motion carried 20:21:16 \o/ 20:21:17 Plus one more from paultag 20:21:20 \o/ 20:21:21 :) 20:21:23 Congratulations AlanBell :) 20:21:23 woot! 20:21:28 Sweet!! Congrats 20:21:29 Great work AlanBell 20:21:29 * christel claps 20:21:31 keep it up 20:21:33 :) 20:21:34 congrats guys! awesome work! 20:21:34 AlanBell: congrats 20:21:36 well done tinkerbell! <3 20:21:37 w00t 20:21:42 Nice work AlanBell :) 20:22:10 That didn't take long. Only grabbed the last 5 mins. Did I miss much? 20:22:11 And everybody else who continue to make the UK Team awesome :) 20:22:22 TheOpenSourcerer: you missed the bit where we handed out free money 20:22:23 sorry 20:22:29 Blast. 20:22:45 Right, moving on 20:22:47 Never mind - it would have slipped through my fat fingers anyway ;-) 20:22:58 #topic Ubuntu California Re-Approval 20:22:58 TOPIC: Ubuntu California Re-Approval 20:23:06 #link https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CaliforniaTeam/ApprovalApplication2011 20:23:16 bah 20:23:26 [LINK] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CaliforniaTeam/ApprovalApplication2011 20:23:32 stupid bot 20:23:37 pleia2: you about? 20:23:40 hi :) 20:23:43 hullo! 20:23:44 o/ 20:23:51 Aloha folks 20:24:01 Anyone here to support Ubuntu Californian LoCo reapproval? 20:24:11 \o/ 20:24:11 o/ 20:24:18 o/ 20:24:51 o/ 20:25:05 I'll be bouncing a bit.. playing Dady Day Care. 20:25:11 *Daddy 20:25:20 pleia2: I am enjoying seeing the work you're doing installing Ubuntu for local community projects. Hows that going? 20:25:24 are others involved? 20:25:41 popey: very well, just had a partimus installfest where we has several team members come out 20:25:55 DarkwingDuck: pleia2 care to tell us how ye get things done in your team ? 20:25:57 grantbow has been involved for years, we had a woman from our ubuntu hours and installfests come out too 20:27:30 we have people all over the state taking charge of events in their area and plan them, we swap tips about venues and things 20:27:53 so we've got ubuntu hours all over the place, the bay area and southern california are distinct regions that often have events 20:28:40 so for us it's really about individuals in their regions taking charge of events 20:28:54 It seems to be working out really well 20:29:05 I'd be interested in how your 'hours' work out 20:29:10 many turn up? 20:29:25 we've had everywhere from 1 to over 20 20:29:28 to add to popey : how do you promote them ? 20:29:38 I'd say typically for most it's about 5-10 people 20:29:50 LUGs, Word of mouth, etc. 20:29:54 and how regular are they? 20:29:55 pleia2, California is pretty big, how do you manage to cover all of the state? Or does most things happen on the bigger cities/areas? 20:30:00 we announce them on our mailing list, forums, twitter, identica, facebook 20:30:01 in the same place all the time? 20:30:11 Try to 20:30:29 and then locally some ubuntu hours advertise to LUGs (I advertise the Ubuntu Hours we couple with Debian dinners to the local lists for SF Ubuntu Hours) 20:30:37 pleia2: that's a lot of places, I know other teams complain about posting to multiple places, but do you think it's benefical ? 20:31:05 leogg: we have active members all over the state, so individuals just create events where they are (our list of ubuntu hour locations is at the end of our app, it's not just the major cities) 20:31:23 DarkwingDuck: can you tell us how things are in the team, in the past it was a bit hairy, but I'm glad to see it's settled down, how is the team doing now ? 20:31:28 wow 20:31:33 thats an impressive set of Hours 20:31:36 popey: some are every other week, the ones in the bay area tend to be monthly (mostly because there are millions of tech events in the bay area, more than one per month would be further saturation :)) 20:31:52 pleia2, nice! thank you :) 20:32:00 Yeah, I can imagine! 20:32:10 czajkowski: the core team handles announcing things centrally to all the resources, it's not so bad, then individuals handle announcements locally 20:32:28 ok 20:32:29 thanks 20:32:42 we use posterous to post to twitter, identica and facebook all at once, then create a loco directory entry and copy that into mailing list and forums posts 20:32:43 Things in the team are going very well. We've had our... differences of opinions at times but, we have managed to sit down, take a few breaths and explain the logic behind things. People tend to respond to that. 20:33:03 What about the financial side of things, do you pay for venues for hours? 20:33:24 In San Diego, no, we have not had to as of yet. 20:33:32 Well, San Diego area. 20:33:36 you use starbucks and similar? 20:33:42 Yes 20:33:45 DarkwingDuck: / pleia2 where do you see the team going/progressing in the next 2 years? 20:33:49 there are a lot of independent coffee shops in california :) 20:33:54 hah 20:34:18 what time of day and day of week is most popular for Hours? 20:34:45 I would like to expand the outreach to the massive amount of Unis here in California. 20:34:47 in the bay area whenever we need to pay for a venue we team up with a LUG who handles costs, or a non-profit that can get us in for free as long as we promote them (again, here that's often partimus - upcoming solano stroll is paid for by berkeley lug under the partimus non-profit banner) 20:35:27 popey: roseville (near the state capital) had a popular lunchtime ubuntu hour, but most are in the evening, 6-8PMish 20:35:34 thanks 20:35:39 I have no more questions 20:35:50 same here 20:35:51 We do it (normally) on saturday mid day 20:36:06 everything looks good to me 20:36:06 czajkowski: I think just staying on track and keeping all communication lines open is what is most vital for our team, we've been growing lately and it's good 20:36:26 so make sure we stay on track and take opportunities and volunteers as they come :) we're in a good position for that now 20:36:28 great stuff 20:36:31 no more questions from me 20:36:36 looks good to me 20:36:45 looks very good to me too 20:37:07 yep, very nice job and great app 20:37:33 ok 20:37:45 #vote on Ubuntu California Team Re-Approval 20:37:45 Please vote on: on Ubuntu California Team Re-Approval 20:37:45 Public votes can be registered by saying +1, +0 or -1 in channel, (private votes don't work yet, but when they do it will be by messaging the channel followed by +1/-1/+0 to me) 20:37:51 +1 20:37:51 +1 received from itnet7 20:37:54 +1 20:37:54 +1 received from leogg 20:37:56 +1 20:37:58 +1 20:38:02 +1 20:38:02 +1 received from huats 20:38:05 um popey #voters 20:38:08 yeah 20:38:10 #endvote 20:38:10 Voting ended on: on Ubuntu California Team Re-Approval 20:38:10 Votes for:3 Votes against:0 Abstentions:0 20:38:10 Motion carried 20:38:12 hang on! 20:38:26 AlanBell: your voting bot is confusing :) 20:38:27 it's +5 20:38:35 plus paultag gave +1 via mailing list 20:38:41 sorry, I screwed the #voters 20:38:41 +6 :) 20:38:47 so basically, you're done :D 20:38:48 thanks everyone :) 20:38:51 Awesome! 20:38:53 congratulations! 20:38:53 Thank you 20:38:55 see you in 2 years! 20:38:58 haha 20:38:59 yay pleia2 and california 20:39:01 Very good job, Go Cali!! 20:39:05 keep up the good work cali! 20:39:13 See some of ya in Orlando. 20:39:24 czajkowski: user error 20:39:34 is it all over I just managed to join the channel 20:39:38 Definitely DarkwingDuck ! 20:39:58 assuming my application gets approved (It should) 20:40:07 #voters popey czajkowski leogg huats itnet7 20:40:07 Current voters: czajkowski huats itnet7 leogg popey 20:40:14 right! 20:40:19 keeping to time nicely 20:40:27 #topic Ubuntu Arizona Reapproval 20:40:27 TOPIC: Ubuntu Arizona Reapproval 20:40:30 :D 20:40:41 toddc: you about? ☺ 20:40:43 Toddc here to represent azloco arizona team woot! 20:40:45 o/ 20:40:53 Anyone else here for Arizona? 20:40:55 o/ 20:40:55 The Hottest LoCo on Earth - The AZ LoCo - w00t w00t!!! 20:40:57 Go Todd! 20:40:58 yes 20:40:59 o\ 20:41:05 1+ 20:41:06 o/ 20:41:13 o/ 20:41:16 hey folks 20:41:23 hiya 20:41:31 howdy 20:41:38 greets 20:41:57 https://wiki.kubuntu.org/ArizonaTeam/ApprovalApplicationrenewal 20:42:04 https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ArizonaTeam/ApprovalApplicationrenewal 20:42:05 :D 20:42:11 toddc: tell us about your install fests.. 20:42:26 so did the UK soon ??? 20:42:26 win 20:42:33 stuart: yeah 20:42:39 see #ubuntu-uk 20:42:45 it is a combined event wit attendence at 15+ 20:42:55 toddc: why on the Kubuntu wiki and not on the main wiki, curious? All in Blue :) 20:43:16 our original application was in kbuntu 20:43:42 so he copied and worked it there. Does it matter for this? 20:43:46 no 20:43:48 nope 20:43:53 I was just curious :) 20:44:02 I was too :) 20:44:02 I like the testimonial idea 20:44:10 me too 20:44:17 np since this is my first I used it as a template 20:44:18 Our install fests are handled two ways. we have installfests thast we do alone - one per release of ubuntu, and one a month that we do in conjunction with the Phoenix Linux users Group once a month 20:44:40 we laso have a monly server installfest also 20:44:43 two/month with PLUG 20:44:53 oops 20:45:11 I also do 2/year with SLUG and 2 others for retirement parks 20:45:39 I see ye've only started to use the LD in the last 2 months, http://loco.ubuntu.com/teams/ubuntu-arizona/events/history 20:45:40 and several out of the local area Tucson 20:45:42 Dazed_75: How many newcomers show up out of curiousity? 20:46:14 itnet7: varies a lot from about 2 to 20 20:46:16 we are continuing to add events and are currently add one in prescoot az 20:46:35 Prescott 20:46:36 Nice! 20:47:56 Most installfests are a mix of installs, assists, and fixes or discussions. Depends on user needs 20:48:02 I like the fact that you collaborate with other LUGs in the area 20:48:07 and sometimes random projects 20:48:16 I agree leogg 20:48:21 we do a lot of that it helps everyone 20:49:20 toddc: how do you share out thing getting done ?? like getting in this application and getting events organised? 20:50:11 toddc: your irc meetings seem to mostly consist of news dumps. Do the team find that valuable? 20:50:20 we have a small group that is increasing slowly that gets the core things done 20:50:22 Typically, we decide such things in the Sunday IRC or at installfest meetings 20:50:41 popey, I find the news dumps valuable. fwiw 20:50:48 it seems more like a newsletter than a meeting as such? 20:50:56 as do I. 20:50:57 toddc, I don't see much activity on the forums or mailing lists... how do you communicate with each other on the team? 20:51:05 yes since most of our things are events 20:51:34 We are considering fewer IRC meetings and trying for higher attendance bersus people reading the notes later 20:51:38 we use irc and our big blue button server for most communication 20:51:47 there is a lot more IRC communication than on the mailing list 20:52:07 We are also considering how to do some face to face with everyone so distant 20:52:23 The Valley is like 100 miles across 20:52:28 toddc: I ask as the team is currently unapproved, due to the team expring as no application was submitted 20:52:45 Former Team leaders said the it was handled or that they would guide us and did not followed thru 20:52:59 That's unfortunate. 20:53:03 I took over 9 months ago 20:53:06 Aye! 20:53:06 toddc, how many people do you have regularly on your IRC channel? 20:53:10 toddc: ok, but you really should have come to us, it's taken a long time 20:53:16 with a huge learning curve 20:53:21 it's been a real hinderance as we are somewhet flying blind here 20:54:00 I was more inthe the installfests but learning has been fun but slow 20:54:00 Anytime you need some help or ideas you can ping anyone of us 20:54:09 What kind of help could we get from the council? I don't think we know 20:54:16 thanks will keep that in mind 20:54:16 absolutely, we're here to help 20:54:21 I'm somewhat to blame as i took over after johnc4510 and didn't immediatly find out what we needed to do to stay curent 20:54:55 lets talk about what the loco council does offline perhaps? 20:55:01 Sure 20:55:03 ok thanks 20:55:10 czajkowski / itnet7 / huats / leogg do you have any other questions for the AZ team? 20:55:13 being the team's one Ubuntu member I should have known better 20:55:18 hmm no 20:55:25 Is there a page that might describe what ways the council can help with ideas and such? 20:55:26 toddc: I have joined your channel feel free to ping me anytime 20:55:27 No worries scott_ev :D 20:55:41 no, I'm good 20:55:50 ok, lets go then. 20:55:54 inet7 thanks will do 20:56:00 #vote on Ubuntu Arizona Re-Approval 20:56:00 Please vote on: on Ubuntu Arizona Re-Approval 20:56:00 Public votes can be registered by saying +1, +0 or -1 in channel, (private votes don't work yet, but when they do it will be by messaging the channel followed by +1/-1/+0 to me) 20:56:02 +1 20:56:02 +1 received from popey 20:56:07 +1 20:56:07 +1 received from itnet7 20:56:11 We have a +1 from paultag also 20:56:13 Sory, while I've been involved with the loco activities, I only recently joined it 20:56:24 +0 20:56:31 +0 20:56:49 * popey tickles huats 20:57:01 +1 20:57:01 +1 received from huats 20:57:07 #endvote 20:57:07 Voting ended on: on Ubuntu Arizona Re-Approval 20:57:07 Votes for:3 Votes against:0 Abstentions:0 20:57:07 Motion carried 20:57:10 I make that 4 20:57:13 sorry I was backlogging 20:57:15 nice, thanks you all 20:57:17 So congratulations! 20:57:19 w00t 20:57:21 yey 20:57:23 we live again 20:57:24 WOOT 20:57:24 w00t 20:57:25 Sweet!!! Thank you!!!! 20:57:30 wahoo! 20:57:33 congrats AZ, I'll be in Phoenix over labor day weekend visiting family :) 20:57:40 Congrats 20:57:42 nice pleia 20:57:46 you picked the hottest month for it pleia2 :) 20:57:48 where exactly? 20:57:55 keep up the great work, and do get in touch if we can help at all 20:58:06 bj0: haha, I also visited philly during a heat wave this year, it's how I roll 20:58:06 thank you and stop by and watch us get bigger 20:58:09 Thanks, I am sure we will 20:58:14 #endmeeting Generated by MeetBot 0.1.4 (http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AlanBell/mootbot)