== Meeting information ==
 * #ubuntu-meeting-2 Meeting, 06 Nov at 20:03 — 20:15 UTC
 * Full logs at [[http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting-2/2018/ubuntu-meeting-2.2018-11-06-20.03.log.html]]



== Meeting summary ==

=== Apologies ===
The discussion about "Apologies" started at 20:04.


=== Action review ===
The discussion about "Action review" started at 20:04.


=== Mailing list archive ===
The discussion about "Mailing list archive" started at 20:08.

  * ''ACTION:'' vorlon to reply to seeded snap upload permissions question on list

=== Community bugs ===
The discussion about "Community bugs" started at 20:14.


=== Next chair ===
The discussion about "Next chair" started at 20:14.




== Vote results ==




== Action items, by person ==

 * vorlon
  * vorlon to reply to seeded snap upload permissions question on list



== Done items ==

 * (none)



== People present (lines said) ==

 * mdeslaur (29)
 * infinity (20)
 * vorlon (7)
 * meetingology (4)



== Full Log ==


 20:03 <mdeslaur> #startmeeting

 20:03 <meetingology> Meeting started Tue Nov  6 20:03:54 2018 UTC.  The chair is mdeslaur. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology.

 20:03 <meetingology> 

 20:03 <meetingology> Available commands: action commands idea info link nick

 20:04 <mdeslaur> [topic] Apologies

 20:04 <infinity> I'm sorry.

 20:04 <mdeslaur> hehe

 20:04 <infinity> </canadian>

 20:04 <mdeslaur> [topic] Action review

 20:04 <mdeslaur> Wimpress To follow-up on-list with design review to address MATE Boutique security/consent concerns.

 20:05 <infinity> I feel like that hasn't happened.

 20:05 <vorlon> (yeah, and all the people who've filled out the spreadsheet for the upcoming company Cape Town sprint who've listed checkout dates in January 2018 are going to be disappointed)

 20:05 <mdeslaur> Doesn't look like that happened

 20:05 * vorlon nods

 20:05 <mdeslaur> infinity to ask maas team to prepare SRU exception policy à la CurtinUpdates

 20:06 <mdeslaur> infinity: this is where you apologize

 20:06 <infinity> I'm waiting on feedback from rbasak with his notes on the current state of affairs.

 20:06 <infinity> Should probably note that in the notes.

 20:06 <infinity> Note note note.  I can type "notes" more.

 20:06 <mdeslaur> ok, I'll add it

 20:06 <mdeslaur> formal ratification of third party seeded snap security policy, depends on:

 20:07 <mdeslaur> depends on what, no idea

 20:07 <infinity> The next bullet point. :P

 20:07 <mdeslaur> vorlon to circle around with store, snapcraft, et all, and revise the snap source revision policy to be more clear with regards to rebuildability and GPL compliance.

 20:07 <vorlon> not done yet, sorry

 20:07 <mdeslaur> ok

 20:08 <mdeslaur> [topic] Mailing list archive

 20:08 <mdeslaur> looks like we have this: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/technical-board/2018-November/002421.html

 20:08 <infinity> Other than the failed attempt at an election (viva la democracy), I see Laney's comment on snap policy versus team ownership.

 20:09 <infinity> Which I think we can definitely do better with, but not sure if it needs store changes.

 20:09 <infinity> It would definitely make my (with release team hat on) life easier if I could branch snaps on archive opening.

 20:09 <infinity> And the mention of also possibly needing out-of-band updates to shipped snaps when the owning parties aren't around is also valid.

 20:10 <infinity> ie: security updates.

 20:10 * vorlon nods

 20:10 <infinity> Not sure if we need to discuss that more here, but I think it definitely needs to be addressed both in policy and practice.

 20:10 <mdeslaur> I think we're all in agreement

 20:11 <mdeslaur> do we need to discuss this further?

 20:12 <infinity> I think we're all on the same page.  At least, I hear no dissent.

 20:12 <vorlon> I don't think it needs discussion, just follow-through

 20:12 <infinity> Steve, as driver of the policy, might want to follow up to Laney's email so he knows it didn't go to a black hole.

 20:12 <vorlon> I had it on my todo already to reply to the mailing list thread :)

 20:12 <infinity> Excellent.

 20:12 <mdeslaur> ok, do we need an action item?

 20:12 <vorlon> I will take one as you deem appropriate!

 20:13 <infinity> Go chair boy, it's your meeting!

 20:13 <mdeslaur> vorlon: congrats, you now have an official nag ;)

 20:13 <mdeslaur> [ACTION] vorlon to reply to seeded snap upload permissions question on list

 20:13 * meetingology vorlon to reply to seeded snap upload permissions question on list

 20:14 <mdeslaur> [topic] Community bugs

 20:14 <mdeslaur> nada

 20:14 <mdeslaur> [topic] Next chair

 20:14 <infinity> kees,vorlon?

 20:14 <mdeslaur> kees, with backup kees, alternate backup kees, and then vorlon

 20:14 <infinity> Hahaha.

 20:15 <mdeslaur> Does anyone have anything else they would like to discuss?

 20:15 <infinity> If we fire kees, can I have his stapler?

 20:15 <mdeslaur> going...

 20:15 <mdeslaur> going...

 20:15 <mdeslaur> gone!

 20:15 <mdeslaur> #endmeeting



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