== Meeting information ==
 * #ubuntu-meeting-2 Meeting, 19 Jan at 17:01 — 17:27 UTC
 * Full logs at [[http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting-2/2016/ubuntu-meeting-2.2016-01-19-17.01.log.html]]



== Meeting summary ==

=== Apologies ===
The discussion about "Apologies" started at 17:01.


=== Action review ===
The discussion about "Action review" started at 17:03.

  * ''ACTION:'' slangasek to document juju exception on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/StableReleaseUpdates#Special_Cases
  * ''ACTION:'' infinity to follow up with maas SRU exception
  * ''ACTION:'' revisit status at next meeting of server plans for docker in 16.04

=== TB election ===
The discussion about "TB election" started at 17:09.

  * ''Vote:'' Propose to sabdfl to reduce the number of TB members by one to five, giving an odd number of members for regular business (Carried)
  * ''ACTION:'' infinity to raise to sabdfl the proposal to reduce the number of TB members

=== Scan the mailing list archive for anything we missed (standing item) ===
The discussion about "Scan the mailing list archive for anything we missed (standing item)" started at 17:17.


=== Check up on community bugs ===
The discussion about "Check up on community bugs" started at 17:22.

  * ''LINK:'' https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-community/+bugs?field.assignee=techboard is empty

=== Select a chair for the next meeting ===
The discussion about "Select a chair for the next meeting" started at 17:23.

  * next chair (assuming reëlection): stgraber, backup is infinity

=== AOB ===
The discussion about "AOB" started at 17:25.




== Vote results ==

 * [[http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting-2/2016/ubuntu-meeting-2.2016-01-19-17.01.log.html#67 Propose to sabdfl to reduce the number of TB members by one to five, giving an odd number of members for regular business]]
  * Motion carried (For/Against/Abstained 5/0/1)
   *  Voters infinity, slangasek, stgraber, mdeslaur, kees, pitti



== Action items, by person ==

 * infinity
  * infinity to follow up with maas SRU exception
  * infinity to raise to sabdfl the proposal to reduce the number of TB members
 * slangasek
  * slangasek to document juju exception on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/StableReleaseUpdates#Special_Cases



== Done items ==

 * (none)



== People present (lines said) ==

 * slangasek (56)
 * infinity (29)
 * meetingology (18)
 * pitti (15)
 * mdeslaur (4)
 * kees (3)
 * stgraber (2)



== Full Log ==


 17:01 <slangasek> #startmeeting

 17:01 <meetingology> Meeting started Tue Jan 19 17:01:34 2016 UTC.  The chair is slangasek. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology.

 17:01 <meetingology> 

 17:01 <meetingology> Available commands: action commands idea info link nick

 17:01 <slangasek> [TOPIC] Apologies

 17:01 <slangasek> I haven't seen any apologies sent to the list

 17:02 <infinity> I can apologize for being here, if that helps.

 17:02 <slangasek> looks like everyone is here, except mdeslaur and sabdfl?

 17:02 <pitti> yeah, I was looking for Mark on C IRC too, but he's not online

 17:02 <kees> infinity: i refuse your apology!

 17:03 <infinity> kees: I refuse your refusal.  Checkmate.

 17:03 * kees bows

 17:03 <slangasek> moving on :)

 17:03 <slangasek> [TOPIC] Action review

 17:03 * slangasek slangasek to document juju, docker exceptions on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/StableReleaseUpdates#Special_Cases

 17:04 * slangasek infinity to follow up with maas SRU exception

 17:04 <infinity> Oh crap.

 17:04 <slangasek> ok, I swear docker wasn't on that list previously

 17:04 <infinity> I should do some maas stuff today.

 17:04 <slangasek> mdeslaur: hi!

 17:04 <slangasek> I think somebody editorial-changes-ed me

 17:04 <mdeslaur> whoops, sorry, forgot about the meeting

 17:04 <slangasek> regardless, I'm in the same state as infinity - still to be done

 17:05 <infinity> slangasek: docker handling is in a state of flux (shock) after the CDO sprint, ignore that one for a bit.

 17:05 <infinity> slangasek: I've been having discussions with the server team about proposed plans and their relative sanity.

 17:05 <slangasek> infinity: gladly!

 17:06 <slangasek> [ACTION] slangasek to document juju exception on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/StableReleaseUpdates#Special_Cases

 17:06 * meetingology slangasek to document juju exception on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/StableReleaseUpdates#Special_Cases

 17:06 <slangasek> [ACTION] infinity to follow up with maas SRU exception

 17:06 * meetingology infinity to follow up with maas SRU exception

 17:06 <slangasek> infinity: what's the action re: docker, then?

 17:06 <slangasek> (and for the record, no, docker had always been on that list :)

 17:06 <infinity> slangasek: Well, nothing to document until they've hashed out a plan of action and presented it.

 17:07 <infinity> slangasek: I've had a few meetings with rbasak and co, perhaps an action to just revisit status at the next meeting and make sure it's going somewhere.

 17:07 <slangasek> [ACTION] revisit status at next meeting of server plans for docker in 16.04

 17:07 * meetingology revisit status at next meeting of server plans for docker in 16.04

 17:07 <slangasek> infinity: look good?

 17:08 <infinity> Yep.

 17:09 <slangasek> [TOPIC] TB election

 17:09 <slangasek> according to the agenda, today's the last day of the call for nominees

 17:09 <slangasek> if you're on the board and want to stand again, don't forget to nominate yourself :)

 17:09 <pitti> right

 17:09 <pitti> we have 6 public nominations, haven't heard from Mark about privately sent ones

 17:09 <slangasek> (if you're here reading but not on the board and are interested, don't forget to nominate yourself!)

 17:10 <infinity> One of the public nominations isn't a core-dev. (or even MOTU)

 17:10 <pitti> FTR, I didn't candidate again; I did three terms (6 years), and I think we should shrink the board a bit as there's muuuch less work than it used to be

 17:11 <infinity> I think we should shrink it by 1, to get an odd number (minus Mark).

 17:11 <infinity> Since he never votes, and has absolute veto anyway.

 17:11 <slangasek> so what's the process for doing that?

 17:11 <slangasek> getting sabdfl to agree to change the number of seats?

 17:11 <infinity> No idea.  We lack a constitution.

 17:12 <infinity> So, yeah, I tihnk just getting sabdfl to agree.

 17:12 <slangasek> play tinny music on a record player during the TB election, then stop it suddenly and remove a seat?

 17:12 <slangasek> did someone already contact Mark about this? I saw infinity suggest this change previously but don't recall if it was written in a mail or whatnot

 17:13 <pitti> I didn't, I was hoping we could discuss that during the meeting

 17:13 <infinity> Yeah, I suggested it in the last meeting, but nothing formally-presented.

 17:14 <infinity> I think odd number (for tie-breakers) makes sense, and shrinking to 3 probably excludes too many points of view for healthy discussion, so I'd be happy with five.

 17:14 <mdeslaur> perhaps propose this to the list?

 17:14 <infinity> I can mail the list today, and CC Mark.

 17:14 <slangasek> pitti: discuss because you disagree with that proposal

 17:14 <slangasek> ?

 17:14 <pitti> or we could even vote

 17:15 <infinity> Right, I think it's worth us voting on, then proposing.

 17:15 <pitti> slangasek: I'm fine with 5

 17:15 <stgraber> I'm happy with it too

 17:15 <pitti> 3 would suffice too IMHO, but it'd get pretty lonely if someone can't attend the meeting

 17:16 <slangasek> #vote Propose to sabdfl to reduce the number of TB members by one to five, giving an odd number of members for regular business

 17:16 <meetingology> Please vote on: Propose to sabdfl to reduce the number of TB members by one to five, giving an odd number of members for regular business

 17:16 <meetingology> Public votes can be registered by saying +1, +0 or -1 in channel, (for private voting, private message me with 'vote +1/-1/+0 #channelname)

 17:16 <pitti> but I totally agree to "odd number" in either case

 17:16 <pitti> +1

 17:16 <meetingology> +1 received from pitti

 17:16 <infinity> +1

 17:16 <meetingology> +1 received from infinity

 17:16 <stgraber> +1

 17:16 <meetingology> +1 received from stgraber

 17:16 <slangasek> +1

 17:16 <meetingology> +1 received from slangasek

 17:16 <mdeslaur> +0

 17:16 <meetingology> +0 received from mdeslaur

 17:16 <kees> +1

 17:16 <meetingology> +1 received from kees

 17:16 <slangasek> #endvote

 17:16 <meetingology> Voting ended on: Propose to sabdfl to reduce the number of TB members by one to five, giving an odd number of members for regular business

 17:16 <meetingology> Votes for:5 Votes against:0 Abstentions:1

 17:16 <meetingology> Motion carried

 17:16 <slangasek> excellent

 17:16 <infinity> Alright.  I'll mail later today after I've rested from kernel security madness.

 17:17 <slangasek> (and I didn't even fail at running the voting machine, which had me nervous after such disuse)

 17:17 <mdeslaur> hehe

 17:17 <infinity> (PS: People who release 0-day exploits at 5am should be shot)

 17:17 <slangasek> [ACTION] infinity to raise to sabdfl the proposal to reduce the number of TB members

 17:17 * meetingology infinity to raise to sabdfl the proposal to reduce the number of TB members

 17:17 <slangasek> ok

 17:17 <slangasek> no other agenda items in the wiki

 17:17 <slangasek> [TOPIC] Scan the mailing list archive for anything we missed (standing item)

 17:18 <pitti> I see nothign green except nominatinos

 17:18 <slangasek> there was also the mail from mhall about the Ubuntu Governance catch-up

 17:18 <pitti> "monitations", "nomnomnations"

 17:18 <pitti> that's in a month (Feb 18)

 17:19 <slangasek> which I've put on my calendar, and supposing I'm not re-elected will make sure I pass on to someone else

 17:19 <slangasek> pitti: May 19?

 17:19 <slangasek> oh, there are two

 17:19 <slangasek> CC and Ubuntu Governance

 17:19 <slangasek> I'm pretty sure I won't make the CC one fwiw

 17:19 <pitti> slangasek: mine from Jan 4 says CC-TB checkup is Feb

 17:20 <infinity> pitti: Yeah, two mails, two meetings.

 17:22 <slangasek> ok, nothing else on mailing list

 17:22 <slangasek> [TOPIC] Check up on community bugs

 17:23 <infinity> Nada.

 17:23 <slangasek> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-community/+bugs?field.assignee=techboard is empty

 17:23 <slangasek> [TOPIC] Select a chair for the next meeting

 17:23 <infinity> Assuming re-election, looks like it's stgraber.

 17:23 <infinity> If not, well, whee.

 17:23 <slangasek> I believe that's stgraber, followed by infinity

 17:23 <slangasek> ah yes, we expire EOM again :)

 17:24 <slangasek> [INFO] next chair (assuming reëlection): stgraber, backup is infinity

 17:24 <infinity> reëlection?

 17:24 <slangasek> ;)

 17:25 <infinity> Deadkeys gone wild?

 17:25 <slangasek> [TOPIC] AOB

 17:25 <slangasek> infinity: naw, deadkeys are evil; that's just me having fun

 17:25 <pitti> that actually looks right, it's a trema

 17:26 <slangasek> ok, anything else need discussing today?

 17:26 <infinity> It would be right without the first e.

 17:26 <infinity> And I think we might be all discussed out for the day.

 17:27 <slangasek> #endmeeting



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