14:31 <Wimpress> #startmeeting Desktop Team Weekly Meeting - 2021-02-02
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14:31 <Wimpress> Roll call:  didrocks, duflu, hellsworth, jamesh, jibel, kenvandine, Laney, marcustomlinson, oSoMoN, seb128 , tkamppeter, Trevinho, robert_ancell, callmepk
14:32 <Trevinho> o/
14:32 <hellsworth> o/
14:32 <jibel> \0
14:32 <callmepk> o/
14:32 <marcustomlinson> \o
14:32 <oSoMoN> o/
14:32 <Wimpress> Hello desktoppers :-)
14:32 <Wimpress> #topic rls-bb-bugs
14:32 <Wimpress> http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-bb-incoming-bug-tasks.html
14:33 <Wimpress> Clear
14:33 <Wimpress> http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-bb-tracking-bug-tasks.html
14:33 <Wimpress> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libx11/+bug/1782984
14:33 <ubot5> Ubuntu bug 1782984 in libx11 (Ubuntu Groovy) "Assertion `!xcb_xlib_threads_sequence_lost' failed with multiple applications" [High,New]
14:34 <Wimpress> Assigning to Timo
14:34 <Wimpress> Everything else is in order.
14:34 <Wimpress> #topic rls-ff-bugs
14:35 <Wimpress> http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-ff-incoming-bug-tasks.html
14:35 <Wimpress> http://launchpad.net/bugs/1910838
14:35 <ubot5> Ubuntu bug 1910838 in gnome-shell-extension-appindicator (Ubuntu) "stopped working after latest update" [Undecided,Incomplete]
14:35 <Wimpress> I think we discussed that one last week.
14:35 <Wimpress> Waiting for feedback.
14:36 <Wimpress> HWE is being discussed.
14:36 <Wimpress> http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-ff-tracking-bug-tasks.html
14:38 <Wimpress> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/livecd-rootfs/+bug/1912498
14:38 <ubot5> Ubuntu bug 1912498 in ubuntu-meta (Ubuntu Focal) "Preinstall some new essential raspi packages in the official raspi images" [High,In progress]
14:38 <Wimpress> ANy of us involved in the above?
14:38 <Wimpress> Looks like sil2100 is working that?
14:38 <Laney> Nah, that's for Łukasz, assign it imo
14:39 <Wimpress> Done.
14:39 <Wimpress> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ghostscript/+bug/1913656
14:39 <ubot5> Ubuntu bug 1913656 in ghostscript (Ubuntu Focal) "Fix for Ghostscript 9.50 upstream bug needs to be back-ported" [Medium,New]
14:40 <Wimpress> Any takers?
14:41 <Laney> for Till maybe?>
14:41 <seb128> tkamppeter_, ^ one SRU for you maybe there?
14:41 <Trevinho> guess it's for TIll?
14:41 <Laney> lol
14:41 <Laney> Tillfest
14:41 <seb128> :-)
14:41 <Wimpress> Till wins a bug
14:42 <hellsworth> till he protests..
14:42 <Wimpress> Everything else is assigned.
14:42 <oSoMoN> it's "adopt a bug" day
14:42 <Wimpress> #topic rls-gg-bugs
14:42 <Wimpress> http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-gg-incoming-bug-tasks.html
14:42 <Wimpress> Is fine ^
14:43 <Wimpress> http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-gg-tracking-bug-tasks.html
14:43 <Wimpress> http://launchpad.net/bugs/1913651
14:43 <ubot5> Ubuntu bug 1913651 in ubuntu-drivers-common (Ubuntu Groovy) "/usr/bin/ubuntu-drivers:PermissionError:/usr/bin/ubuntu-drivers@480:__call__:main:invoke:invoke:invoke:new_func:invoke:autoinstall:command_install" [High,Triaged]
14:44 <Laney> it's for tselio_t and in progress afaik, assign it
14:45 <Wimpress> Yep. Assigned.
14:45 <Wimpress> http://launchpad.net/bugs/1913651
14:45 <ubot5> Ubuntu bug 1913651 in ubuntu-drivers-common (Ubuntu Groovy) "/usr/bin/ubuntu-drivers:PermissionError:/usr/bin/ubuntu-drivers@480:__call__:main:invoke:invoke:invoke:new_func:invoke:autoinstall:command_install" [High,Triaged]
14:45 <Wimpress> That is being handled by Dave.
14:46 <seb128> that was the same number than before?
14:46 <Laney> wrong link, or else we're all in the matrix
14:46 <Wimpress> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/pi-bluetooth/+bug/1901272
14:46 <ubot5> Ubuntu bug 1901272 in pi-bluetooth (Ubuntu) "Can't connect Bluetooth devices after reboot - Ubuntu 20.10 on Raspberry Pi 4" [Undecided,Confirmed]
14:46 <Wimpress> That one ^
14:46 <seb128> right
14:46 <Wimpress> Everything else is in order.
14:46 <Wimpress> #topic rls-hh-bugs
14:47 <Wimpress> http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-hh-incoming-bug-tasks.html
14:47 <Wimpress> Is fine ^
14:47 <Wimpress> http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-hh-tracking-bug-tasks.html
14:47 <Wimpress> Also fine ^
14:48 <Wimpress> #topic update_excuses_by_team.html#desktop-packages
14:48 <Wimpress> https://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/proposed-migration/update_excuses_by_team.html#desktop-packages
14:48 <seb128> right
14:49 <seb128> tiff is waiting for MIR team, their meeting is just after this one
14:49 <seb128> I will go ask if it didn't get picked for review because it was assigned
14:49 <Wimpress> OK
14:49 <seb128> n-m sounds like a systemd issue, I pinged r_balint about it
14:49 <rbalint> seb128, ?
14:50 <seb128> rbalint, we are reviewed blocked in proposed for our team and I was talking about https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/systemd/+bug/1914062
14:50 <ubot5> Ubuntu bug 1914062 in systemd (Ubuntu) "NetworkManager-wait-online.service in 1.28.0-2ubuntu1 fails to start in LXC" [Undecided,New]
14:50 <rbalint> n-m does not start in lzc
14:50 <Wimpress> Anything else in excuses a cause for concern?
14:50 <seb128> software-properties/armhf, probably to check with foundations
14:50 <seb128> that keeps beeing flaky or problematic
14:51 <Wimpress> Flappy test?
14:51 <seb128> :-)
14:51 <seb128> but otherwise nothing new or problematic, the few glib failures probably need to be checked
14:51 <seb128> and that's it
14:51 <Wimpress> Thanks.
14:51 <Wimpress> #topic AOB
14:52 <Wimpress> Anyone have anything else they want to discuss?
14:52 <Wimpress> OK, I'll go.
14:52 <Wimpress> I met with the Yaru team last night.
14:53 <rbalint> seb128, the log from the bug contains this: Get:263 http://ftpmaster.internal/ubuntu hirsute-proposed/main amd64 network-manager amd64 1.28.0-2ubuntu1 [2002 kB]
14:53 <Wimpress> TL;DR in terms of Yaru - merging the GTK4 and GNOME40 themes looks to be business as usual.
14:54 <Wimpress> No expected major issues.
14:54 <seb128> great
14:54 <seb128> I'm going to upload GTK4 to hirsute today
14:54 <seb128> Debian NEW is taking forever and since there was a call for testing on discourse
14:54 <Wimpress> Yaru team do have one request though.
14:54 <Wimpress> Can GNOME40 snapshot be uploaded to a PPA so they can test/validate everything is indeed working?
14:55 <seb128> no
14:55 <Wimpress> So, next cycle then?
14:55 <seb128> we will eventually get there, but one of the reason we postponed is that we don't have the engineering capacity to do the work required by the updares
14:55 <seb128> updates
14:56 <Wimpress> Understood.
14:56 <seb128> the lack of resources applies also to some degree to the ppa
14:56 <Laney> there's a gtk4 package in debian, and that has a demo application or two in it
14:56 <seb128> we might have wip work landing at some point
14:56 <Laney> which is probably good enough to rebuild on ubuntu, and use for testing
14:56 <seb128> Laney, I'm basically just fake syncing the version that is sitting in NEW
14:56 <Laney> good
14:56 <Wimpress> clobrano ^
14:57 <seb128> I just finished a test build on hirsute and it's fine :-)
14:57 <Laney> so I assume the demos are packaged in there and they can be used for now until we get some apps which require it
14:58 <Wimpress> I have nothing else to add regarding Yaru etc.
14:58 <Wimpress> Anyone have any other topics?
14:59 <Wimpress> Also Feichtmeier ^
14:59 <seb128> I'm just going to mention recent topics from discourse for those not follow the website
14:59 <seb128> https://discourse.ubuntu.com/t/refreshing-the-ubuntu-desktop-installer/20659
14:59 <Wimpress> Good point!
14:59 <seb128> https://discourse.ubuntu.com/t/trying-wayland-by-default-again/20575
14:59 <Trevinho> Wimpress, clobrano: I can do the simplest thing by just copy the debian sources (as they are) in a PPA once they hit that...
14:59 <Trevinho> may be enough for testing
15:00 <seb128> https://discourse.ubuntu.com/t/staying-on-gtk3-and-gnome-3-38-this-cycle
15:00 <Wimpress> Thanks Trevinho
15:00 <seb128> Trevinho, Debian is frozen
15:00 <Trevinho> well experimental isn't going to be updated?
15:00 <seb128> they might still update to experimental but I doubt that's going to be a focus
15:01 <Wimpress> Are we done?
15:01 <seb128> I think so
15:01 <Wimpress> #endmeeting