14:31 <Wimpress> #startmeeting Desktop Team Weekly Meeting - 2021-01-26
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14:31 <Wimpress> Roll call:  didrocks, duflu, hellsworth, jamesh, jibel, kenvandine, Laney, marcustomlinson, oSoMoN, seb128 , tkamppeter, Trevinho, robert_ancell, callmepk
14:31 <oSoMoN> 🐵/
14:32 <hellsworth> ~o~
14:32 <seb128> _o/
14:32 <marcustomlinson> 🕺🏻
14:32 <kenvandine> o/
14:32 * luna_ is sick and don't have energy to attend today
14:32 <kenvandine> luna_: feel better!
14:32 <Wimpress> #topic rls-bb-bugs
14:32 <Wimpress> http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-bb-incoming-bug-tasks.html
14:32 <seb128> luna_, oh, get better!
14:32 <didrocks> o/
14:32 <jibel> hola o/
14:32 <Wimpress> bb-incoming all quiet
14:33 <Wimpress> http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-bb-tracking-bug-tasks.html
14:34 <Wimpress> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libx11/+bug/1782984
14:34 <ubot5> Ubuntu bug 1782984 in libx11 (Ubuntu Groovy) "Assertion `!xcb_xlib_threads_sequence_lost' failed with multiple applications" [High,New]
14:35 <Wimpress> Looks like Timo is working that one.
14:36 <seb128> seems like a fix probably worth SRUing at least to focl
14:36 <Wimpress> Yep.
14:36 <seb128> tjaalton, you were planning to do that?
14:36 <tjaalton> sounds fine
14:37 <Wimpress> Thanks.
14:37 <Wimpress> The rest are assigned for bb-tracking
14:37 <Wimpress> http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-ff-incoming-bug-tasks.html
14:37 <Wimpress> #topic rls-ff-bugs
14:38 <Wimpress> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-shell-extension-appindicator/+bug/1910838
14:38 <ubot5> Ubuntu bug 1910838 in gnome-shell-extension-appindicator (Ubuntu) "stopped working after latest update" [Undecided,New]
14:38 <Wimpress> I'm marking that Incomplete since Seb asked a question to find out more.
14:39 <seb128> marco said he had it on his backlog iirc but we probably failed to triage properly to get it off the lists
14:39 <seb128> if it's the same as the other one
14:39 <seb128> but the submitter didn't reply so incomplete seems fine yes :)
14:39 <Trevinho> Yeah i think is the same as the one you commented
14:39 <Wimpress> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubuntu-meta/+bug/1911614
14:39 <ubot5> Ubuntu bug 1911614 in ubuntu-meta (Ubuntu) "Ubuntu 20.04 and 20.04.1 images use linux-generic-hwe-20.04 instead of linux-generic" [Undecided,Confirmed]
14:40 <Wimpress> We are going to discuss that later ^
14:40 <Wimpress> http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-ff-tracking-bug-tasks.html
14:42 <Wimpress> Looks in order.
14:42 <Wimpress> #topic rls-gg-bugs
14:42 <Wimpress> http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-gg-incoming-bug-tasks.html
14:43 <Wimpress> All good
14:43 <Wimpress> http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-gg-tracking-bug-tasks.html
14:43 <Wimpress> Also all assigned.
14:44 <Wimpress> #topic rls-hh-bugs
14:44 <Wimpress> http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-hh-incoming-bug-tasks.html
14:44 <Wimpress> http://launchpad.net/bugs/1911921
14:44 <ubot5> Ubuntu bug 1911921 in gnome-shell (Ubuntu) "gnome-shell crashed with SIGABRT in src/core/workspace.c:375:meta_workspace_add_window: assertion failed: (g_list_find (workspace->mru_list, window) == NULL)" [Undecided,Confirmed]
14:45 <Wimpress> Looks like Daniel is tracking that one.
14:46 <Wimpress> Interesting since we've been discussing Wayland.
14:46 <Wimpress> I've assigned Daniel.
14:47 <Wimpress> http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-hh-tracking-bug-tasks.html
14:47 <Wimpress> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/wpa/+bug/1912609
14:47 <ubot5> Ubuntu bug 1912609 in wpa (Ubuntu Hirsute) "mac80211_hwsim: hostapd fails to start with S1G band" [Undecided,New]
14:48 <seb128> you can assign that one to me, I did the recent wpa uploads I can handle reviewing that patch
14:48 <Wimpress> Thanks Seb.
14:48 <seb128> np!
14:49 <Wimpress> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/tiff/+bug/1908502
14:49 <ubot5> Ubuntu bug 1908502 in tiff (Ubuntu Hirsute) "[MIR] libdeflate" [Undecided,Triaged]
14:49 <oSoMoN> thanks seb128 for taking that one off my plate!
14:49 <seb128> it's for me as well, sorry I forgot to do that when I reopened it
14:50 <seb128> oSoMoN, np!
14:50 <seb128> I'm changing assignee you can move to the next one
14:50 <Wimpress> Assigned to you Seb.
14:50 <Wimpress> ty
14:51 <Wimpress> #topic update_excuses_by_team.html#desktop-packages
14:51 <Wimpress> https://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/proposed-migration/update_excuses_by_team.html#desktop-packages
14:52 <Wimpress> Anything of concern in that ^
14:52 <seb128> someone should probably check on qpdf vs pikepdf
14:52 <seb128> tkamppeter, ^ would you maybe try to check if you can see what's the issue there since it's blocking cups-filters?
14:53 <seb128> network-manager vs systemd I will follow up with foundations
14:53 <Laney> what's happening with bluez, any update there?
14:53 <Laney> I have a feeling we might end up in release week with that still blocked
14:53 <Wimpress> waveform: ^
14:54 <Laney> merci
14:54 <seb128> Laney, I've been sending regular emails, Dave replied a week ago that he sent the patch upstream for review now, I asked the url or reference but he didn't get back to me yet
14:54 <seb128> but yeah, it's taking forever to unblock :-/
14:54 <Laney> cool, thanks for keeping on that!
14:54 <seb128> np!
14:55 <seb128> other things are new or flaky, I don't think there is value to discuss more here now
14:55 <Wimpress> OK
14:55 <Wimpress> #topic AOB
14:55 <Wimpress> Anything else anyone wants to discuss?
14:56 <seb128> we should get moving with changes we want to do this cycle, e.g wayland by default
14:56 <seb128> but we probably don't have the right venue and people now to discuss that
14:56 <Wimpress> I was just writing something similar.
14:57 <Wimpress> We've discussed displays servers as a team.
14:57 <seb128> well, Daniel seemed to give his +1
14:57 <Wimpress> I think this is the right time/cycle to make the switch and test the waters.
14:57 <seb128> resources available to do the changes is a struggle though
14:57 <kenvandine> yeah, but i think we have to do it
14:58 <Wimpress> If not this cycle, then planned for in the 21.10 cycle.
14:58 <seb128> I think we should do it this cycle and sooner rather than later
14:58 <oSoMoN> I agree
14:58 <seb128> we just need to get people stepped out of what they are doing for some days
14:58 <kenvandine> yeah, if we wait until 21.10 then we don't have time to address issues
14:58 <seb128> I will try to get that going
14:58 <Wimpress> If we can squeeze than it, I think it would be good.
14:59 <seb128> we basically needs marcustomlinson and kenvandine to deal with their pipewire items and probably Trevinho to help them getting things uploaded
14:59 <Wimpress> Anything more to add?
14:59 <Wimpress> Not just Wayland related.
14:59 <seb128> Laney, would be nice if could help switching the default session when we are ready
14:59 <seb128> not from me
15:00 <Trevinho> yeah, let me know if you want me to help, should not be much other than merge more with debian
15:00 <Wimpress> Is there any knock on impact for the Yaru team?
15:01 <Wimpress> They have some custom sessions. I've not look to see if Wayland is a factor for those.
15:01 <seb128> wayland? no
15:01 <Laney> ok, that bit should be easy, it's just a ubuntu patch in gdm I think
15:01 <Trevinho> yeah, no problem for them
15:01 <didrocks999> Laney: right
15:01 <Wimpress> Great.
15:02 <Wimpress> Any other topics?
15:02 <didrocks> however, we need to ensure everyone in the team is using hirsute day-to-day please, don’t stay on the LTS or groovy to have a definitive opinion :)
15:02 <Wimpress> Good point.
15:02 <Wimpress> Champagne drinking everyone :-)
15:02 * Laney eyes the OSX users ;-)
15:03 <Wimpress> Are you looking in a mirror?
15:03 <seb128> (unless you are on nvidia but from how little that get tested before release I don't think we team members using that on their main session)
15:03 <Wimpress> I am.
15:03 <seb128> +have
15:03 <didrocks> I do, I have nvidia (and reported many bugs (ignored :p)
15:03 <Laney> NO NO NO
15:03 <Laney> I do, the problem is we're not reinstalling it
15:03 <didrocks> right, that as well
15:04 <seb128> ah ok
15:04 <Wimpress> I can test actual hardware installs.
15:04 <seb128> sorry for sidetracking with that inacurate comment
15:04 <Wimpress> Right, are we done?
15:05 <seb128> my point was that if I understood correctly, if you are on nvidia you will probably be sent to xorg anyway
15:05 <seb128> I think so
15:05 <Laney> yes
15:05 <Wimpress> Yes.
15:05 <didrocks> yeah, it’s a way to test the fallback at least
15:06 <Wimpress> Anymore for anymore?
15:06 <didrocks> nope!
15:06 <Wimpress> OK. Thanks everyone.
15:06 <Wimpress> #endmeeting