13:30 <seb128> #startmeeting Desktop Team Weekly Meeting - 2020-10-20
13:30 <meetingology> Meeting started Tue Oct 20 13:30:29 2020 UTC.  The chair is seb128. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology.
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13:30 <seb128> Roll call:  didrocks, duflu, hellsworth, jamesh, jibel, kenvandine, Laney, marcustomlinson, oSoMoN, tkamppeter, Trevinho, robert_ancell, callmepk
13:30 <kenvandine> o/
13:30 <marcustomlinson> \o
13:30 <Trevinho> hola
13:31 <hellsworth> good morning desktopers
13:31 <hellsworth> o/
13:31 <callmepk> o/
13:31 <jibel> o~
13:31 <jibel> Good morning hellsworth
13:31 <seb128> k, seems like we have enough people to get started!
13:31 <seb128> #topic rls-bb-bug
13:31 <seb128> http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-bb-incoming-bug-tasks.html
13:31 <seb128> no desktop entry
13:32 <didrocks> hey
13:32 <seb128> http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-bb-tracking-bug-tasks.html
13:32 <seb128> those are assigned
13:32 <seb128> #topic rls-ff-bug
13:32 <seb128> http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-ff-incoming-bug-tasks.html
13:32 <seb128> bug #1899262
13:32 <ubot5> bug 1899262 in wpa (Ubuntu) "Broken dbus GetAll message to wpa supplicant interface properties" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1899262
13:33 <seb128> seems like foundation got pinged about it, I will follow up with them to know if they are owning the issue
13:34 <seb128> bug #1886092
13:34 <ubot5> bug 1886092 in libreoffice (Ubuntu) "libreoffice doesn't list gpg private key for a digital signature due to apparmor" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1886092
13:34 <seb128> I tagged this one, the apparmor profile from the deb blocks gpg communication it seems
13:35 <seb128> unsure how common signing documents is but it sounds like something we would like to fix in a LTS since that's a problem we created
13:35 <hellsworth> it would be nice to have that fixed
13:35 <seb128> +1 from me to nominate in case that's not obvious from what I said there
13:35 <hellsworth> i agree
13:35 <kenvandine> +1
13:35 <hellsworth> but this vote is not to have it fixed by release time right?
13:35 <seb128> k, nominating then, thanks
13:36 <hellsworth> since that's in 2 days
13:36 <seb128> that's focal we are reviewing (LTS)
13:36 <hellsworth> oh right yes
13:36 <seb128> that was released in april :)
13:36 <hellsworth> my bad
13:36 <seb128> but yeah, just something for the next SRU round imho
13:36 <seb128> thanks!
13:37 <seb128> that's it for focal incoming (the other bug it's a leftover that needs triaging)
13:37 <seb128> http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-ff-tracking-bug-tasks.html
13:37 <seb128> that list a some cleanups needed, I will handle those
13:38 <seb128> nothing needing discussion
13:38 <seb128> #topic rls-gg-bug
13:38 <seb128> http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-gg-incoming-bug-tasks.html
13:38 <seb128> the snap/wayland thing is leftover
13:39 <seb128> kenvandine, James mentioned that it could be workarounded in snapd potentially, should we try to do that even if there is a fix pending for GNOME?
13:39 <seb128> unsure if other distros are likely to get the patch included in their incoming releases
13:39 <seb128> would suck to have graphical snaps not working on e.g fedora 33 default session
13:40 <kenvandine> yeah... but snapd releases take time too
13:40 <kenvandine> i'll ask him what he thinks
13:40 <Laney> that should be rls accepted though I'd say
13:40 <kenvandine> i'd agree
13:40 <kenvandine> but what about other distros
13:41 <seb128> @Laney, right, that's what I meant by leftover, it failed to be properly triaged previous meeting
13:41 <Laney> ah
13:42 <seb128> we said we would accept it
13:42 <kenvandine> seb128: where did james say it could be worked around in snapd?
13:42 <seb128> I will try again (sometime I just keep things to not delay the meeting and get distracted, and sometime launchpad fails and I don't notice)
13:42 <seb128> kenvandine, he said so on IRC, that snapd could do something similar to flatpak
13:42 <kenvandine> ah
13:42 <seb128> like bindmount the socket or something, unsure what they are doing exactly
13:42 <Laney> it should in the medium term, that's what Simon says on the MR too
13:43 <Laney> but hoepfully that can be merged as a quick(er) fix
13:43 <seb128> right
13:43 <kenvandine> cool, i'll check with him
13:43 <seb128> k, moving on
13:43 <seb128> bug #1898005
13:43 <ubot5> bug 1898005 in gnome-shell-extension-desktop-icons (Ubuntu) "gnome-shell crashed with SIGABRT in st_bin_destroy: assertion failed: (priv->child == NULL) called from DesktopManager::_destroyDesktopIcons()" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1898005
13:43 <seb128> I tagged this one
13:43 <seb128> it's unclear to me if it's wayland specific, some reports claim so
13:43 <seb128> but it has a stack of duplicates and seems easy to trigger with remote mounts in e.g nautilus
13:44 <seb128> I'm +1 to accept since it's a crash and it's common, even if wayland isn't the default session
13:44 <seb128> opinions?
13:44 <Trevinho> assume is mine
13:44 <seb128> Trevinho, thanks
13:45 <seb128> bug #1900334
13:45 <ubot5> bug 1900334 in chromium-browser (Ubuntu) "[snap] Mouse pointer theme and scaling not honoured for cursor themes not included in gtk-common-themes" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1900334
13:45 <seb128> I tagged it but failed to untag
13:45 <seb128> it got some debugging since and turned out to be specific to some themes and not a regression
13:45 <seb128> so let's skip, I'm untagging it
13:46 <seb128> kenvandine, would still be nice to include whiteglass in gtk-common-themes, do you want a trello card or something for that?
13:46 <seb128> ah
13:46 <kenvandine> trello card would be good
13:46 <seb128> oSoMoN beat me to it
13:46 <seb128> https://gitlab.gnome.org/Community/Ubuntu/gtk-common-themes/-/issues/21
13:46 <kenvandine> awesome
13:46 <seb128> kenvandine, is that enough or do you still want the card?
13:46 <kenvandine> that's good
13:46 <seb128> k
13:46 <seb128> that's it for incoming
13:46 <seb128> http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-gg-tracking-bug-tasks.html
13:47 <seb128> bug #1872159 needs triaging (got assigned to duflu for plymouth, needs the same for gdm)
13:47 <ubot5> bug 1872159 in plymouth (Ubuntu Groovy) "Boot animation never finishes when external monitors (or just more than one) are connected" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1872159
13:48 <seb128> k, that's it for bugs
13:48 <seb128> #topic update_excuses_by_team.html#desktop-packages
13:48 <seb128> https://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/proposed-migration/update_excuses_by_team.html#desktop-packages
13:48 <seb128> desktop section is empty, which is the way it should be the week of release!
13:49 <seb128> #topic AOB
13:49 <seb128> it's release week as said
13:49 <seb128> jibel, Laney , do we have candidate images yet?
13:49 <jibel> yes
13:49 <seb128> great
13:50 <jibel> https://discourse.ubuntu.com/t/20-10-release-candidate-isos-ready-for-testing/18894
13:50 <seb128> ^ for everyone to do
13:50 <hellsworth> woo hoo!
13:51 <seb128> I don't think the ISO testing hangout we did previous week is going to work as well today
13:51 <seb128> since the release people I think have their own event and aren't joining
13:51 <seb128> which meant other didn't stick around
13:51 <hellsworth> that's ok. whoever comes is welcome
13:51 <seb128> right
13:51 <seb128> anything else?
13:51 <didrocks> nothing for me
13:52 <Laney> release note contributions would be welcome :-)
13:52 <seb128> ah, right
13:52 <seb128> https://discourse.ubuntu.com/t/groovy-gorilla-release-notes right?
13:52 * seb128 is going to try to add some content
13:52 <Laney> yeah looks nice
13:52 <Laney> thanks!
13:53 <seb128> what's the process?
13:53 <seb128> I don't seem to have edit rights
13:54 <Laney> ask pope_y and get IS to enable that bloody plugin!
13:54 <seb128> k
13:55 <seb128> anything else?
13:55 <seb128> seems not, that's a wrap then, thanks desktopers and happy ISO testing!
13:56 <seb128> #endmeeting