13:30 <seb128> #startmeeting Desktop Team Weekly Meeting - 2020-10-20 13:30 <meetingology> Meeting started Tue Oct 20 13:30:29 2020 UTC. The chair is seb128. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology. 13:30 <meetingology> 13:30 <meetingology> Available commands: action commands idea info link nick 13:30 <seb128> Roll call: didrocks, duflu, hellsworth, jamesh, jibel, kenvandine, Laney, marcustomlinson, oSoMoN, tkamppeter, Trevinho, robert_ancell, callmepk 13:30 <kenvandine> o/ 13:30 <marcustomlinson> \o 13:30 <Trevinho> hola 13:31 <hellsworth> good morning desktopers 13:31 <hellsworth> o/ 13:31 <callmepk> o/ 13:31 <jibel> o~ 13:31 <jibel> Good morning hellsworth 13:31 <seb128> k, seems like we have enough people to get started! 13:31 <seb128> #topic rls-bb-bug 13:31 <seb128> http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-bb-incoming-bug-tasks.html 13:31 <seb128> no desktop entry 13:32 <didrocks> hey 13:32 <seb128> http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-bb-tracking-bug-tasks.html 13:32 <seb128> those are assigned 13:32 <seb128> #topic rls-ff-bug 13:32 <seb128> http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-ff-incoming-bug-tasks.html 13:32 <seb128> bug #1899262 13:32 <ubot5> bug 1899262 in wpa (Ubuntu) "Broken dbus GetAll message to wpa supplicant interface properties" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1899262 13:33 <seb128> seems like foundation got pinged about it, I will follow up with them to know if they are owning the issue 13:34 <seb128> bug #1886092 13:34 <ubot5> bug 1886092 in libreoffice (Ubuntu) "libreoffice doesn't list gpg private key for a digital signature due to apparmor" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1886092 13:34 <seb128> I tagged this one, the apparmor profile from the deb blocks gpg communication it seems 13:35 <seb128> unsure how common signing documents is but it sounds like something we would like to fix in a LTS since that's a problem we created 13:35 <hellsworth> it would be nice to have that fixed 13:35 <seb128> +1 from me to nominate in case that's not obvious from what I said there 13:35 <hellsworth> i agree 13:35 <kenvandine> +1 13:35 <hellsworth> but this vote is not to have it fixed by release time right? 13:35 <seb128> k, nominating then, thanks 13:36 <hellsworth> since that's in 2 days 13:36 <seb128> that's focal we are reviewing (LTS) 13:36 <hellsworth> oh right yes 13:36 <seb128> that was released in april :) 13:36 <hellsworth> my bad 13:36 <seb128> but yeah, just something for the next SRU round imho 13:36 <seb128> thanks! 13:37 <seb128> that's it for focal incoming (the other bug it's a leftover that needs triaging) 13:37 <seb128> http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-ff-tracking-bug-tasks.html 13:37 <seb128> that list a some cleanups needed, I will handle those 13:38 <seb128> nothing needing discussion 13:38 <seb128> #topic rls-gg-bug 13:38 <seb128> http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-gg-incoming-bug-tasks.html 13:38 <seb128> the snap/wayland thing is leftover 13:39 <seb128> kenvandine, James mentioned that it could be workarounded in snapd potentially, should we try to do that even if there is a fix pending for GNOME? 13:39 <seb128> unsure if other distros are likely to get the patch included in their incoming releases 13:39 <seb128> would suck to have graphical snaps not working on e.g fedora 33 default session 13:40 <kenvandine> yeah... but snapd releases take time too 13:40 <kenvandine> i'll ask him what he thinks 13:40 <Laney> that should be rls accepted though I'd say 13:40 <kenvandine> i'd agree 13:40 <kenvandine> but what about other distros 13:41 <seb128> @Laney, right, that's what I meant by leftover, it failed to be properly triaged previous meeting 13:41 <Laney> ah 13:42 <seb128> we said we would accept it 13:42 <kenvandine> seb128: where did james say it could be worked around in snapd? 13:42 <seb128> I will try again (sometime I just keep things to not delay the meeting and get distracted, and sometime launchpad fails and I don't notice) 13:42 <seb128> kenvandine, he said so on IRC, that snapd could do something similar to flatpak 13:42 <kenvandine> ah 13:42 <seb128> like bindmount the socket or something, unsure what they are doing exactly 13:42 <Laney> it should in the medium term, that's what Simon says on the MR too 13:43 <Laney> but hoepfully that can be merged as a quick(er) fix 13:43 <seb128> right 13:43 <kenvandine> cool, i'll check with him 13:43 <seb128> k, moving on 13:43 <seb128> bug #1898005 13:43 <ubot5> bug 1898005 in gnome-shell-extension-desktop-icons (Ubuntu) "gnome-shell crashed with SIGABRT in st_bin_destroy: assertion failed: (priv->child == NULL) called from DesktopManager::_destroyDesktopIcons()" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1898005 13:43 <seb128> I tagged this one 13:43 <seb128> it's unclear to me if it's wayland specific, some reports claim so 13:43 <seb128> but it has a stack of duplicates and seems easy to trigger with remote mounts in e.g nautilus 13:44 <seb128> I'm +1 to accept since it's a crash and it's common, even if wayland isn't the default session 13:44 <seb128> opinions? 13:44 <Trevinho> assume is mine 13:44 <seb128> Trevinho, thanks 13:45 <seb128> bug #1900334 13:45 <ubot5> bug 1900334 in chromium-browser (Ubuntu) "[snap] Mouse pointer theme and scaling not honoured for cursor themes not included in gtk-common-themes" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1900334 13:45 <seb128> I tagged it but failed to untag 13:45 <seb128> it got some debugging since and turned out to be specific to some themes and not a regression 13:45 <seb128> so let's skip, I'm untagging it 13:46 <seb128> kenvandine, would still be nice to include whiteglass in gtk-common-themes, do you want a trello card or something for that? 13:46 <seb128> ah 13:46 <kenvandine> trello card would be good 13:46 <seb128> oSoMoN beat me to it 13:46 <seb128> https://gitlab.gnome.org/Community/Ubuntu/gtk-common-themes/-/issues/21 13:46 <kenvandine> awesome 13:46 <seb128> kenvandine, is that enough or do you still want the card? 13:46 <kenvandine> that's good 13:46 <seb128> k 13:46 <seb128> that's it for incoming 13:46 <seb128> http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-gg-tracking-bug-tasks.html 13:47 <seb128> bug #1872159 needs triaging (got assigned to duflu for plymouth, needs the same for gdm) 13:47 <ubot5> bug 1872159 in plymouth (Ubuntu Groovy) "Boot animation never finishes when external monitors (or just more than one) are connected" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1872159 13:48 <seb128> k, that's it for bugs 13:48 <seb128> #topic update_excuses_by_team.html#desktop-packages 13:48 <seb128> https://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/proposed-migration/update_excuses_by_team.html#desktop-packages 13:48 <seb128> desktop section is empty, which is the way it should be the week of release! 13:49 <seb128> #topic AOB 13:49 <seb128> it's release week as said 13:49 <seb128> jibel, Laney , do we have candidate images yet? 13:49 <jibel> yes 13:49 <seb128> great 13:50 <jibel> https://discourse.ubuntu.com/t/20-10-release-candidate-isos-ready-for-testing/18894 13:50 <seb128> ^ for everyone to do 13:50 <hellsworth> woo hoo! 13:51 <seb128> I don't think the ISO testing hangout we did previous week is going to work as well today 13:51 <seb128> since the release people I think have their own event and aren't joining 13:51 <seb128> which meant other didn't stick around 13:51 <hellsworth> that's ok. whoever comes is welcome 13:51 <seb128> right 13:51 <seb128> anything else? 13:51 <didrocks> nothing for me 13:52 <Laney> release note contributions would be welcome :-) 13:52 <seb128> ah, right 13:52 <seb128> https://discourse.ubuntu.com/t/groovy-gorilla-release-notes right? 13:52 * seb128 is going to try to add some content 13:52 <Laney> yeah looks nice 13:52 <Laney> thanks! 13:53 <seb128> what's the process? 13:53 <seb128> I don't seem to have edit rights 13:54 <Laney> ask pope_y and get IS to enable that bloody plugin! 13:54 <seb128> k 13:55 <seb128> anything else? 13:55 <seb128> seems not, that's a wrap then, thanks desktopers and happy ISO testing! 13:56 <seb128> #endmeeting