13:30 <Wimpress> #startmeeting Desktop Team Weekly Meeting - 2020-08-18
13:30 <meetingology> Meeting started Tue Aug 18 13:30:11 2020 UTC.  The chair is Wimpress. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology.
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13:30 <Wimpress> Roll call:  didrocks, duflu, hellsworth, jamesh, jibel, kenvandine, Laney, marcustomlinson, oSo_MoN, seb128 , tkamppeter, Trevinho, robert_ancell, callmepk
13:30 <marcustomlinson> \o
13:30 <Trevinho> o/
13:30 <hellsworth> o/
13:30 <jibel> \o
13:30 <kenvandine> o/
13:30 <callmepk> o/
13:30 <luna_> o/
13:30 <didrocks999> o/
13:30 <Wimpress> Hello all o/
13:30 <seb128> \o_
13:31 <Wimpress> #topic rls-bb-bugs
13:31 <Wimpress> http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-bb-incoming-bug-tasks.html
13:31 <Wimpress> http://launchpad.net/bugs/1888505
13:32 <ubot5> Ubuntu bug 1888505 in libreoffice (Ubuntu) "Two-finger touchpad zoom extremely sensitive" [Low,New]
13:32 <Wimpress> Not sure that is rls critical?
13:32 <seb128> it was discussed and was meant to be untagged no?
13:32 <Wimpress> Tagged as wontfix
13:33 <Wimpress> http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-bb-tracking-bug-tasks.html
13:33 <hellsworth> oh yes thank you Wimpress
13:33 <Wimpress> hellsworth: np
13:33 <Wimpress> bb-tracking all looks in hand.
13:34 <Wimpress> #topic rls-ff-bugs
13:34 <Wimpress> http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-ff-incoming-bug-tasks.html
13:34 <Laney> notfixing not wontfix fwiw
13:34 <Wimpress> Thanks Laney
13:34 <KGB-0> 03gnome-control-center 05ubuntu/master 09b77b5 06Sebastien Bacher 04debian/patches/0029-applications-Use-new-snapd-glib-API-for-labelling-Sn.patch * remove patch that isn't needed anymore * 14https://deb.li/yiwU
13:34 <Wimpress> http://launchpad.net/bugs/1891476
13:34 <ubot5> Ubuntu bug 1891476 in gtkmm3.0 (Ubuntu) "gtkmm3.0 ftbfs in focal" [High,Confirmed]
13:35 <seb128> (shush KGB-0, don't tell me off for pushing commits during a meeting!)
13:35 <kenvandine> lol
13:36 <seb128> I've no strong opinion on whether a ftbfs is a rls issue in a stable serie
13:36 <seb128> what do other think?
13:36 <kenvandine> it is a little concerning that something was uploaded to break that
13:37 <seb128> well, that package didn't change much for a while
13:37 <seb128> so could well be a toolchain update and we didn't catch it because it was not rebuilt during the cycle
13:37 <seb128> anyway, do we +1 or -1 that?
13:37 <Laney> I think it should be, if there was another fix needed then this would block that
13:37 <seb128> I would tend to -1 personnally
13:38 <seb128> if we need to do an upload fixing the build as well makes sense
13:39 <Wimpress> So, what to do?
13:40 <didrocks999> I think we should link that to another fix as well (do we have a VCS just to stage the patch there and avoid investigation if we don’t find the bug when looking at it?)
13:40 <seb128> Wimpress, you decide :-)
13:40 <Wimpress> That sounds sensible. Land the patch but but don't upload until something else requires with upload?
13:41 <seb128> I think it doesn't need to be targetted, Laney seems to have a preference for doing it
13:41 <seb128> staging in the Vcs wfm
13:41 <Wimpress> OK.
13:41 <kenvandine> +1
13:41 <Wimpress> You owning that seb128 ?
13:41 <seb128> k
13:42 <Wimpress> http://launchpad.net/bugs/1891478
13:42 <ubot5> Ubuntu bug 1891478 in orca (Ubuntu) "orca ftbfs in focal (amd64 only)" [High,Confirmed]
13:42 <Laney> It's less helpful than ideal for e.g. the security team, but maybe that's ok
13:43 <Laney> Marcus might want that one ^-
13:44 <marcustomlinson> ok
13:44 <seb128> thx
13:44 <Wimpress> Done
13:44 <Wimpress> http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-ff-tracking-bug-tasks.html
13:45 <Wimpress> seb128: Do we review things tagged Wishlist?
13:47 <seb128> yes
13:47 <Wimpress> http://launchpad.net/bugs/1891733
13:47 <ubot5> Ubuntu bug 1891733 in language-selector (Ubuntu Focal) "Support better Arabic font" [Wishlist,Confirmed]
13:48 <Wimpress> Looks like Laney and GunnarHj are working on that one.
13:48 <seb128> GunnarHj seems to be on that so I would soimply assign to him
13:48 <Laney> yeah, not me, I just gave my (wanted or not) opinions :-)
13:48 <Laney> but Gunnar is actively on it
13:49 <Wimpress> I think that concludes ff-tracking as we know about the SPICE issue.
13:49 <luna_> assigned it to GunnarHj
13:49 <Wimpress> #topic rls-gg-bugs
13:49 <Wimpress> http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-gg-incoming-bug-tasks.html
13:49 <Wimpress> All fine.
13:49 <Wimpress> http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-gg-tracking-bug-tasks.html
13:50 <Wimpress> Also fine.
13:50 <Wimpress> #topic update_excuses_by_team.html#desktop-packages
13:50 <Wimpress> https://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/proposed-migration/update_excuses_by_team.html#desktop-packages
13:51 <luna_> Can say Firefox 80 will be released next week, if someone feels like packing :P
13:51 <seb128> icu migrated that gave us a shorter report :-)
13:51 <seb128> luna_, Olivier will be back to handle that
13:51 <luna_> seb128: perfect
13:51 <seb128> Wimpress, nothing to worry about there, firefox/thunderbird are partially victims of reverts done to get icu to migrate
13:51 <luna_> got reminded when i saw 78/79 on the top of the list
13:51 <seb128> dnsmasq is being handled by others
13:52 <Wimpress> OK
13:52 <seb128> libreoffice and udisks are known to be flaky and being retried
13:52 <kenvandine> i read that as retired :)
13:52 <Wimpress> Yeah, I uploaded some packages last night. Random failures on arm. Rebuilds worked.
13:53 <Wimpress> #topic AOB
13:53 <Wimpress> Anyone have anything?
13:54 <seb128> kenvandine, you wish :)
13:54 <didrocks999> nothing for me
13:54 <kenvandine> :)
13:54 <tkamppeter> Anyone in the desktop team wants to own golang-gopkg-ini.v1?
13:54 <seb128> https://trello.com/b/sdyPskaS/gnome-338
13:54 <seb128> please help
13:54 <seb128> I can't handle that alone
13:55 <Laney> udisks was meant to get unflaky with the latest upload, guessing that didn't work
13:55 <Wimpress> tkamppeter: WHy are you interested in that package?
13:55 <tkamppeter> To complete bug 1891157
13:55 <ubot5> bug 1891157 in golang-github-openprinting-goipp (Ubuntu) "[MIR] ipp-usb" [High,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1891157
13:55 <seb128> Laney, there is a 2.9.1 out, I'm waiting for that to be uploaded to see if that makes a difference and if not I will spend some time on it
13:55 <tkamppeter> To replace the flaky and now deprecated ippusbxd by ipp-usb
13:56 <tkamppeter> To make IPP-over-USB reliably work.
13:56 <Laney> seb128: ok, I was heading towards asking for us to assign that as a task :>
13:56 <Wimpress> Sounds like you have a vested interested in maintaining that package tkamppeter :-)
13:57 <kenvandine> indeed
13:57 <tkamppeter> https://openprinting.github.io/OpenPrinting-News-August-2020/#ipp-over-usb-ippusbxd-and-ipp-usb
13:57 <tkamppeter> As last mean I take it.
13:58 <tkamppeter> Is Go itself alreadfy in Main?
13:58 <Wimpress> tkamppeter: Yes
13:58 <Wimpress> Anything else to discuss?
13:58 <luna_> Can i ask another random question, when kinda does the Translation things for Groovy starts?
13:59 <kenvandine> tkamppeter: i think your use case is the only interesting one for desktop
13:59 <seb128> Laney, I'm going to card it so we don't forget with a note to test with .1 to start
14:00 <Laney> GREAT!
14:00 <seb128> :-)
14:00 <Wimpress> All done?
14:00 <tkamppeter> snapd is written in Go? Am I right?
14:00 <kenvandine> yes
14:00 <didrocks999> (but they are vendoring their deps, so not using that package)
14:01 <seb128> luna_, it's already started, https://translations.launchpad.net/ubuntu/
14:01 <tkamppeter> So Snaps will only get into ChromeOS when the guys rewrite snapd in Rust.
14:01 <Laney> EOM
14:01 <seb128> indeed!
14:01 <Wimpress> #endmeeting