== Meeting information ==
 * #ubuntu-desktop: Desktop Team Weekly Meeting - 2020-08-04, 04 Aug at 13:43 — 14:12 UTC
 * Full logs at [[http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-desktop/2020/ubuntu-desktop.2020-08-04-13.43.log.html]]



== Meeting summary ==

=== rls-bb-bug ===
The discussion about "rls-bb-bug" started at 13:44.


=== rls-ff-bug ===
The discussion about "rls-ff-bug" started at 13:53.


=== rls-gg-bug ===
The discussion about "rls-gg-bug" started at 14:02.


=== aob ===
The discussion about "aob" started at 14:08.




== Vote results ==




== Done items ==

 * (none)



== People present (lines said) ==

 * kenvandine (46)
 * hellsworth (23)
 * seb128 (16)
 * oSoMoN (7)
 * ubot5 (4)
 * jibel (4)
 * meetingology (3)
 * marcustomlinson (1)



== Full Log ==


 13:43 <kenvandine> #startmeeting Desktop Team Weekly Meeting - 2020-08-04

 13:43 <meetingology> Meeting started Tue Aug  4 13:43:59 2020 UTC.  The chair is kenvandine. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology.

 13:43 <meetingology> 

 13:43 <meetingology> Available commands: action commands idea info link nick

 13:44 <kenvandine> #topic rls-bb-bug

 13:45 <kenvandine> i don't think there are other bb bugs

 13:45 <hellsworth> there was one more bb-incoming on LO though: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libreoffice/+bug/1889460

 13:45 <ubot5> Ubuntu bug 1889460 in libreoffice (Ubuntu) "Missing font after $LANG change" [Undecided,New]

 13:46 <hellsworth> looks like the user noticed missing ubuntu languages when setting $LANG

 13:46 <kenvandine> oh, missed that

 13:46 <hellsworth> missing fonts, not languages

 13:47 <hellsworth> i think it's a small enough problem that i would vote -1 but would love to hear others thoughs

 13:48 <kenvandine> i'd be interested in knowing if it only affects libreoffice

 13:48 <hellsworth> ok what is another app that uses the ubuntu thin font?

 13:48 <kenvandine> like  fc-list

 13:49 <kenvandine> does the result change for the different LANG

 13:49 <hellsworth> ok i can check that on bionic too

 13:49 <kenvandine> probably -1 though

 13:50 <kenvandine> although, fonts are important in a word processor :)

 13:50 <hellsworth> would it be -1 from you even if it is missing from fc-list?

 13:50 <kenvandine> if it's missing in fc-list then it isn't a libreoffice bug

 13:51 <hellsworth> well that's true

 13:51 <kenvandine> the reporter says it was reproduced on kubuntu 20.04.1 livecd

 13:51 <kenvandine> so not just bionic

 13:51 <hellsworth> right

 13:52 <hellsworth> but i only tagged it as bionic because seemed like enough to get a conversation going about it

 13:52 <kenvandine> i can't repro it on 20.04 though

 13:52 <kenvandine> -1 and maybe investigate more

 13:53 <hellsworth> ok sounds good

 13:53 <kenvandine> #topic rls-ff-bug

 13:53 <hellsworth> -1 is fine with me but i'll take a look at a bionic vm with fc-list

 13:53 <oSoMoN> that sounds reasonable, -1 and further triaging

 13:53 <marcustomlinson> should bugs be confirmed/triaged before being tagged incoming

 13:53 <seb128> you can also check in gnome-font-viewer if it's listed

 13:53 <oSoMoN> that would help making a decision in the meeting

 13:53 <kenvandine> it could help

 13:53 <kenvandine> but that can be hard if you don't have the release or hardware handy

 13:53 <hellsworth> ok sorry guys. then i will triage before tagging in the future.

 13:54 <oSoMoN> that's not a strict requirement, just makes things easier

 13:54 <hellsworth> thanks seb i'll check gnome-font-viewer too

 13:55 <kenvandine> oh, bb-tracking looked fine

 13:55 <kenvandine> more LO bugs on ff-incoming

 13:55 <kenvandine> bug 1888186

 13:55 <ubot5> bug 1888186 in libreoffice (Ubuntu) "LibreOffice Writer unusably slow" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1888186

 13:56 <hellsworth> right sorry i was going through new bugs yesterday..

 13:56 <hellsworth> so this one seems bad but no one else seems to have the problem

 13:57 <kenvandine> yeah, this would have been reported by others

 13:57 <oSoMoN> I think that one needs working with the reporter to try and understand what causes this problem, but -1 because it obviously doesn't affect everyone

 13:57 <hellsworth> ok

 13:57 <seb128> -1 from me

 13:57 <hellsworth> -1 then and i'll work with the reporter

 13:57 <kenvandine> agreed

 13:57 <kenvandine> bug 1889051

 13:58 <ubot5> bug 1889051 in libreoffice (Ubuntu) "Unreachable options" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1889051

 13:58 <hellsworth> does that sound like it would be related to the wayland usage?

 13:58 <oSoMoN> that looks like an upstream bug

 13:58 <oSoMoN> the dialog window is just too tall

 13:59 <seb128> not likely wayland, probably just a small vertical resolution

 13:59 <seb128> like 720 pixels

 13:59 <kenvandine> it would be useful to know the resolution

 13:59 <kenvandine> i'd say send that one upstream

 13:59 <kenvandine> but maybe ask for their screen resolution first

 13:59 <kenvandine> so you have all the info

 14:00 <hellsworth> done and thanks

 14:00 <kenvandine> hellsworth: can you handle updating the tags on all those bugs?

 14:00 <hellsworth> yes

 14:00 <kenvandine> thanks

 14:01 <kenvandine> ff-tracking looks under control

 14:02 <hellsworth> i think that's all of the LO bugs i added yesterday

 14:02 <kenvandine> #topic rls-gg-bug

 14:03 <kenvandine> we have two bugs under incoming but they look like they've been triaged and assigned

 14:03 <seb128> right

 14:03 <seb128> jibel, could you check if the kernel on https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1875199 fixes the issue for you?

 14:04 <ubot5> Ubuntu bug 1875199 in linux (Ubuntu) "[NUC8CCHK][HDA-Intel - HDA Intel PCH, playback] No sound at all" [Undecided,Incomplete]

 14:04 <kenvandine> should we drop incoming from those?

 14:04 <jibel> seb128, it doesn't

 14:04 <seb128> jibel, can you comment on the bug saying so?

 14:05 <seb128> so Hui might have another look

 14:05 <jibel> yes

 14:05 <seb128> thx

 14:05 <jibel> I tried 5.8 too and still no sound

 14:06 <kenvandine> seb128: should we drop incoming from those?  or are we leaving them tagged so we discuss every week?

 14:06 <seb128> kenvandine, yes, the gdm one probably should be targetted, the pulseaudio one we dicussed in the past and didn't have an agreement, I'm not going to comment either way today

 14:06 <kenvandine> ok

 14:06 <seb128> it does sound like a kernel issue to me though

 14:06 <seb128> or hardware specific

 14:06 <kenvandine> yeah

 14:07 <jibel> not sure it's kernel if you kill pulseaudio and uses alsa directly then there is sound, but this meeting is not the right place to discuss these details

 14:08 <kenvandine> gg-tracking looks like things being handled

 14:08 <kenvandine> #topic aob

 14:08 <kenvandine> oh, i skipped something

 14:09 <kenvandine> transitions?

 14:09 <oSoMoN> that's a long list :/

 14:10 <seb128> lot of blocked on icu transition

 14:10 <seb128> and some libreoffice retries

 14:10 <hellsworth> libreoffice is holding some things up too. asked for some reruns of tests (thanks kenvandine )

 14:10 <seb128> I think the only thing that needs looked at is dee/riscv

 14:10 <kenvandine> ok, lets move along to AOB

 14:12 <kenvandine> anything?

 14:12 <kenvandine> going once

 14:12 <seb128> (not from me)

 14:12 <kenvandine> going twice

 14:12 * kenvandine drops the mic

 14:12 <kenvandine> #endmeeting



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