13:30 <seb128> #startmeeting Desktop Team Weekly Meeting - 2020-04-14 13:30 <meetingology> Meeting started Tue Apr 14 13:30:55 2020 UTC. The chair is seb128. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology. 13:30 <meetingology> 13:30 <meetingology> Available commands: action commands idea info link nick 13:31 <didrocks> hey 13:31 <jibel> hola 13:31 <seb128> Roll call: didrocks, duflu (out), heather, jamesh (out), jibel, kenvandine, laney, marcustomlinson, oSoMoN, tkamppeter, trevinho, robert_ancell (out), callmepk 13:31 <marcustomlinson> \o 13:31 <hellsworth> o/ 13:31 <oSoMoN> š°/ 13:31 <callmepk> o/ 13:31 <kenvandine> \o 13:31 <seb128> I hope everyone had a good Easter w.e! 13:31 <seb128> let's get started 13:32 <GunnarHj> O/ (I have an AOB thing.) 13:32 <seb128> #topic rls-bb-bug 13:32 <seb128> GunnarHj, hey, stick around for a bit then :) 13:32 <seb128> http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-bb-incoming-bug-tasks.html 13:32 <seb128> desktop free 13:32 <seb128> http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-bb-tracking-bug-tasks.html 13:32 <seb128> no unassigned one 13:33 <seb128> #topic rls-ee-bug 13:33 <seb128> http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-ee-incoming-bug-tasks.html 13:33 <seb128> desktop free 13:33 <seb128> http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-ee-tracking-bug-tasks.html 13:33 <seb128> no unassigned there either, nice 13:33 <seb128> #topic rls-ff-bug 13:33 <seb128> http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-ff-incoming-bug-tasks.html 13:34 <seb128> let's do that :p 13:34 <seb128> bug #1745345 13:34 <ubot5> bug 1745345 in xorg-server (Ubuntu) "Xorg assert failure: Xorg: /usr/include/xorg/privates.h:122: dixGetPrivateAddr: Assertion `key->initialized' failed." [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1745345 13:34 <hellsworth> are we identifying what we can get done before the freeze? 13:35 <hellsworth> or still picking the ones we want to be in by ff release? 13:35 <seb128> the later one 13:35 <seb128> if things don't make it to release they will be SRUed 13:35 <seb128> same as we still review bb and ee lists 13:36 <hellsworth> yep ok thanks 13:36 <seb128> that xorg one seems not new, comment #48 point to fixes that landed 13:36 <seb128> I don't think it has enough data to be nominate for rls-ff atm, I vote -1 13:36 <hellsworth> yep so -1 13:36 <jibel> yeah -1 and re-verifying it ATM 13:36 <seb128> thanks jibel 13:37 <seb128> bug #1862553 13:37 <ubot5> bug 1862553 in gnome-control-center (Ubuntu) "gnome-control-center crashed with SIGSEGV in cc_panel_get_title_widget()" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1862553 13:37 <seb128> I tagged this one, from the description it happens when trying to enable livepatch 13:37 <seb128> we want to feature livepatch so it sucks when that experience is buggy 13:37 <seb128> also it has some duplicates 13:37 <seb128> I do vote +1 in case it's not obvious :p 13:38 <hellsworth> +1 13:38 <oSoMoN> +1 13:38 <didrocks> yeah, a good test case. +1 13:39 <seb128> kenvandine, do you think Robert can take on this one? 13:39 <kenvandine> seb128: sure 13:39 <seb128> thx 13:39 <seb128> (I'm skipping the assigned one that we fail to untag/target previous week) 13:40 <seb128> bug #1869571 13:40 <ubot5> bug 1869571 in gnome-shell (Ubuntu) "Vertical dual monitor setup with main monitor on bottom causes overview to only use one eigth of screen" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1869571 13:40 <oSoMoN> kenvandine, if the problem happens to be in the livepatch integration in software-properties, IĀ can look into that 13:40 <kenvandine> oSoMoN: ok 13:40 <seb128> oSoMoN, kenvandine, I think it's a bug in the online account panel in g-c-c, we had a similar one in the past than andyrock fixed 13:41 <seb128> I emailed Robert asking for input and pointing to the old patch/commit, let's see 13:41 <seb128> so 13:41 <hellsworth> +1 on the dual monitor one 13:41 <seb128> I don't know how common are vertical stacking of monitors 13:41 <seb128> but it has already 8 users subscribed and some duplicates 13:42 <hellsworth> +1 but low priority? 13:42 <seb128> it's pretty annoying visually and not obvious what the issue is 13:42 <seb128> I vote +1 13:42 <seb128> medium probably 13:42 <didrocks> sounds about right 13:43 <seb128> thx 13:44 <seb128> (I need to clean out the list, quite some items from previous week that got acted on but not removed from the list) 13:44 <seb128> bug #1872103 13:44 <ubot5> bug 1872103 in libreoffice (Ubuntu) " After update to 6.4.2.2: Split database only accessible while running in Safe Mode" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1872103 13:44 <seb128> that's a report about 18.04 + ppa 13:44 <seb128> does it happen in focal proper? 13:45 <hellsworth> ok so this one i haven't tried to reproduce. need to setup a database on a separate system so didn't spend the time yet 13:45 <Trevinho> yeah, I untagged some of them 13:45 <seb128> I don't really understand the impact but it doesn't look rls material at this point to me? 13:45 <oSoMoN> yeah, that would be the first thing to find out 13:45 <seb128> k, let's untag for now, please tag it back if it turns out to be an issue on focal and you believe it's important enough to be rls tracked 13:46 <oSoMoN> if it does impact focal and is a regression IĀ would say it's rls material 13:46 <hellsworth> ok 13:46 <seb128> bug #1868666 13:47 <ubot5> bug 1868666 in gnome-shell (Ubuntu) "gnome-shell crashes when resuming from lock screen [st_widget_remove_accessible_state: assertion 'ST_IS_WIDGET (widget)' failed]" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1868666 13:47 <seb128> it's incomplete an another leftover it looks like 13:47 <didrocks> I got some hang yesterday, not a crash though, same thing in the journal 13:47 <seb128> tagging notifxing 13:47 <didrocks> unsure if this is the same trigger though 13:48 <seb128> didrocks, might be worth reporting with the journal snippet? 13:48 <seb128> bug #1867763 13:48 <ubot5> bug 1867763 in gnome-shell (Ubuntu) "gnome-shell crashed with SIGABRT: assertion failure in st_bin_destroy: assertion failed: (priv->child == NULL)" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1867763 13:48 <didrocks> seb128: could do, unfortunately killing it didnāt create a core dump that could be retraced to attach :/ 13:49 <didrocks> (then the experience is horrible: you log back from gdm in the session and the Shell drops you again in lockscreen immediately) 13:49 <hellsworth> +1 on the sigabrt one 13:49 <hellsworth> didrocks: i saw that yesterday in a vm too. i have only seen it in a vm though 13:49 <seb128> it's easy to trigger here 13:49 <didrocks> hellsworth: real metal here :) 13:49 <didrocks> sounds like the sigarbrt has some dups, so yeah +1 13:49 <seb128> in fact already assigned to Daniel but on one component only 13:49 <hellsworth> interesting.. 13:49 <seb128> I will tide it up also 13:50 <seb128> thx 13:50 <hellsworth> didrocks: oh sorry, i saw the issue you mentioned about being dropped back to the login screen. i've only seen that on a vm. 13:51 <seb128> bug #1870627 13:51 <ubot5> bug 1870627 in libreoffice (Ubuntu) "Cannot change symbols in charts in LibreOffice Calc 6.4" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1870627 13:51 <hellsworth> yeah that happens but only on kubuntu 13:52 <seb128> missing recommends/depends? 13:52 <hellsworth> i can check that 13:52 <seb128> also the submitter mentions he reported it upstream, would be nice to get the reference 13:52 <hellsworth> i looked upstream for a bug and couldn't find one. i'll ask him for a link 13:52 <seb128> I would vote -1, would be nice to fix in a SRU/in the next upload, but if it's not happening in Ubuntu and only a graphical preference I don't think it's rls 13:53 <hellsworth> sgtm 13:54 <seb128> bug #1870736 13:54 <ubot5> bug 1870736 in mutter (Ubuntu) "Screen scaling 125% gives 200% (nvidia)" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1870736 13:55 <seb128> Trevinho, any idea what's going on there? 13:55 <Trevinho> seb128 I think is just the driver not handling xrandr properly 13:55 <seb128> Trevinho, ok, so not on our side? 13:56 <seb128> any way to confirm that easily? 13:56 <Trevinho> I don't think so, I mean all the other drivers are working fine 13:56 <Trevinho> I'm quite sure something broke at nvidia level there 13:56 <seb128> do you have any xrand command line that could be used to test if that's actually an xrand problem? 13:56 <seb128> if so could you comment that on the bug? 13:56 <Trevinho> yeah, I will write in the bug 13:57 <seb128> thanks 13:57 <seb128> bug #1871351 13:57 <ubot5> bug 1871351 in gnome-settings-daemon (Ubuntu) "Review the vino/screen sharing situation" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1871351 13:57 <seb128> I will take this one, but I patched g-s-d to restore vino's service handling so that's probably good enough for release at this point 13:58 <seb128> bug #1871644 13:58 <ubot5> bug 1871644 in firefox (Ubuntu) "Top corners of Firefox windows have weird black protrusions from the rounded edges" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1871644 13:58 <oSoMoN> that's a known upstream bug 13:58 <oSoMoN> and affects only wayland 13:58 <seb128> doesn't seem rls material to me 13:59 <oSoMoN> yep, -1Ā from me too 13:59 <hellsworth> -1 14:00 <seb128> that's it for incoming I think 14:00 <seb128> http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-ff-tracking-bug-tasks.html 14:01 <seb128> bug #1791405 14:01 <ubot5> bug 1791405 in bluez (Ubuntu Focal) "bluetooth always in discoverable mode (security issue)" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1791405 14:01 <seb128> unsure why Daniel edited this one and why it targets focal, I will just drop the target 14:02 <didrocks> yeah, bluez task should be removed, no? 14:03 <seb128> maybe, I think there is still a potential problem/fix to be done in the bluez side 14:03 <seb128> which gnome-bluetooth workarounded/fixes in the GNOME case 14:03 <seb128> I'm not wanting to enter a bug status fight with Daniel over it :p 14:03 <Laney> assign him then ;-) 14:03 <didrocks> :) 14:03 <seb128> haha 14:04 <seb128> anyway, untargetted for now with a comment 14:04 <seb128> the second one is assigned to me, just not on the g-c-c component, will fix 14:04 <seb128> bug #1867908 14:04 <ubot5> bug 1867908 in wpa (Ubuntu Focal) "Fix RTM NEW/DELLINK IFLA_IFNAME copy for maximum ifname length" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1867908 14:04 <seb128> leftover I think, I said I would upload and forget, will do that 14:05 <seb128> and that's it for bugs 14:05 <seb128> sorry that some noise was left on the list, we will do better next week, I will tide things up after the meeting 14:05 <seb128> #topic update_excuses_by_team.html#desktop-packages 14:05 <seb128> https://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/proposed-migration/update_excuses_by_team.html#desktop-packages 14:06 <seb128> kenvandine, snapd-glib 1.57 fails to build on armhf, that's also blocking gnome-software, I expected to see Robert follow up on that after upload but that's stuck for some time now, do you know what's the status? 14:07 <seb128> remmina is blocked by riscv but wgrant said earlier than he expect the libsecret stack to be good by eod so probably fine 14:07 <seb128> pango is waiting for tests to be completed 14:07 <seb128> and hplip is another riscv one 14:07 <kenvandine> seb128: i don't know 14:08 <Laney> we shouldn't have things blocked like that by riscv64 14:08 <seb128> kenvandine, can you check with him? 14:08 <kenvandine> yup 14:08 <Laney> we attempted to set the setting in proposed-migration to fix that but it didn't work 14:08 <seb128> :( 14:08 <Laney> if anyone has some time to read its code and work out why not that would be very helpful 14:08 <seb128> do you have a pointer to the code/where to start? 14:08 <seb128> in case someone is wanting to try to dive in 14:09 <Laney> well, is anyone? 14:09 <seb128> I've a feeling everyone is busy and that's probably a no :-/ 14:09 <Laney> look in https://git.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-release/britney/+git/britney2-ubuntu/tree/britney.py and work out why, if the arch is in break_arches, you would still get that excuse output 14:09 <Laney> right 14:10 <Laney> "would anyone like to look at XXX" doesn't really work 14:10 * Laney shouldn't have asked it in that way, sorry 14:10 <seb128> I will try to have a look, who knows, fresh eyes or luck maybe :p 14:11 <seb128> ok, that's it for that section 14:11 <seb128> #topic AOB 14:11 <seb128> GunnarHj, you are up :) 14:11 <GunnarHj> Thanks.. 14:11 <RikMills> seb128: ok, proposed my ubiquity merge 14:11 <GunnarHj> Bug #1867548 is still open. I talked with Robert this morning, and he asked (on the upstream issue) for input from Bastien, who wrote the code, and whose only reaction was that he doesn't use the feature (aka doesn't want to spend more work on it). 14:11 <GunnarHj> My suggestion on the matter is in comment #7 on the Ubuntu bug. The feature is new and of moderate importance, but the bug is bad, which I think justifies my proposal to drop the feature for now. 14:11 <GunnarHj> Possibly Robert will fix it before final freeze, so this is to prepare the team for the case he doesn't. 14:11 <ubot5> bug 1867548 in gnome-control-center (Ubuntu Focal) "Right Alt key is suddenly switched off after invoking Settings - Keyboard Shortcuts in Focal" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1867548 14:14 <seb128> GunnarHj, I emailed Robert about that one and the dynamic layout yesterday and he said he would have a look 14:14 * RikMills notices meeting. shuts up 14:14 <GunnarHj> seb128: He said that to me to, but also that he isn't familiar with that part of g-c-c. 14:15 <seb128> GunnarHj, it has only one duplicate and 2 affected users so while it would be good to fix I'm also not convinced it's our top priority atm, can be a SRU 14:16 <GunnarHj> seb128: It affect quite a few users - those who use "English (US)", "Russian", "Chinese"... Not sure that the numbers of affected users in the dev cycle is a good measure... 14:17 <seb128> GunnarHj, so there is no 'Alternate Characters Key' defined by default? 14:17 <seb128> and it got set the first time you open the settings? 14:18 <seb128> I don't even understand what 'alternate characters key' is... 14:18 <seb128> GunnarHj, I don't think we need to hold the team/meeting on that, let's keep discussing after wrapping 14:18 <seb128> 14:18 <GunnarHj> seb128: Not as dconf setting. For those who use kb layouts with 3:rd level symbols it's defined via the layout. Yes, it's set behind the scenes once you open the Keyboard panel. 14:18 <seb128> any other topic? 14:19 <kenvandine> RC week, yay! 14:19 <kenvandine> that is all from me :) 14:20 <seb128> indeed :p 14:20 <seb128> time to look at your assigneed rls bugs and do something about those! 14:21 <seb128> Wimpress, we could use that weekly discourse post that usually goes out on monday :) 14:21 <kenvandine> seb128: the snap-store branch is now the 3.36 base 14:21 <seb128> kenvandine, thanks! 14:21 <kenvandine> Tuesday, it's the new Monday 14:21 <kenvandine> :) 14:21 <kenvandine> at least this week 14:21 <seb128> hehe 14:21 <seb128> indeed 14:21 <kenvandine> it was really quiet yesterday 14:21 <seb128> ok, let's wrap on that note :) 14:21 <seb128> thanks team! 14:21 <seb128> #endmeeting