13:31 <Wimpress> #startmeeting Desktop Team Weekly Meeting - 2020-04-07 13:31 <meetingology> Meeting started Tue Apr 7 13:31:37 2020 UTC. The chair is Wimpress. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology. 13:31 <meetingology> 13:31 <meetingology> Available commands: action commands idea info link nick 13:31 <Wimpress> Roll call: didrocks, duflu, hellsworth, jamesh, jibel, kenvandine, Laney, marcustomlinson, oSoMoN, seb128 , tkamppeter, trevinho, robert_ancell, callmepk 13:31 <marcustomlinson> \o 13:31 <hellsworth> o/ 13:32 <kenvandine> \o 13:32 <seb128> _o/ 13:32 <Trevinho> o/ 13:32 <jibel> o/ 13:32 <Wimpress> #topic rls-bb-bugs 13:33 <Wimpress> http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-bb-incoming-bug-tasks.html 13:33 <Wimpress> http://launchpad.net/bugs/1870270 13:33 <ubot5> Ubuntu bug 1870270 in gnome-shell (Ubuntu Bionic) "gnome-shell crashed with SIGSEGV in dri_flush_front_buffer() from intel_flush_front() from intel_glFlush()" [Medium,Triaged] 13:33 <Wimpress> Fix released. 13:34 <seb128> not for bionic? 13:34 <seb128> we are on 3.32 there 13:34 <Wimpress> Yep, looks like Daniel is working this one. 13:34 <seb128> assign to him and untag? 13:34 <Wimpress> Yep. 13:35 <Wimpress> Done 13:36 <Wimpress> http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-bb-tracking-bug-tasks.html 13:36 <callmepk> okay here 13:36 <oSoMoN> ( late o/ ) 13:36 <Wimpress> o/ 13:37 <Wimpress> Look fine. Only unassisgned bug is the one we just dealt with. 13:37 <Wimpress> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-shell/+bug/1559650 13:37 <ubot5> Ubuntu bug 1559650 in gnome-shell (Ubuntu Bionic) "gnome-shell crashed with SIGSEGV in ___vsnprintf_chk()" [Medium,Confirmed] 13:38 <Wimpress> Again, looks like Daniel is tracking it. 13:39 <Wimpress> Assign to Daniel? 13:39 <seb128> yes, the numbers of e.u.c reports seem enough to keep it on the list if he wants to deal with it 13:39 <seb128> so I would do that yes 13:39 <Wimpress> Done 13:39 <Wimpress> #topic rls-ee-bugs 13:39 <Wimpress> http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-ee-incoming-bug-tasks.html 13:40 <Wimpress> All clear. 13:40 <Wimpress> http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-ee-tracking-bug-tasks.html 13:40 <hellsworth> wait 13:40 * Wimpress waits 13:40 <hellsworth> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libreoffice/+bug/1870564 13:40 <ubot5> Ubuntu bug 1870564 in libreoffice (Ubuntu) " Libreoffice's option "Customize" is imcompatble to decrease its Window size in Ubuntu 19.10" [Undecided,New] 13:40 <hellsworth> i just tagged that ee-incoming (sorry for that) 13:40 <hellsworth> i haven't looked at it yet.. 13:41 <hellsworth> but wonder if we want to spend time on it 13:41 <Wimpress> Want that assigning to you to triage? 13:41 <hellsworth> sure 13:41 <hellsworth> but then what happens with the tag? 13:42 <seb128> doesn't look like rls material to me 13:42 * ricotz hopes seb128 didn't forget vala ;) 13:42 <seb128> especially not for a stable which is about to be superseeded and is not a LTS 13:42 <seb128> I would vote wontfix for 19.10 13:42 <Wimpress> seb128: Yeah, I'll drop the tag. It will be loved by hellsworth :-) 13:42 <seb128> wfm 13:42 <hellsworth> ok 13:42 <hellsworth> thx 13:43 <seb128> ricotz, no, I just had to step out for a bit and I'm only catching up with things now, will do in a bit 13:43 <Wimpress> http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-ee-tracking-bug-tasks.html 13:43 <ricotz> seb128, ah, I see, thanks! 13:44 <Wimpress> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/network-manager/+bug/1733321 13:44 <ubot5> Ubuntu bug 1733321 in network-manager (Ubuntu Focal) "network-manager ADT tests fail with on ppc64el with artful/linux 4.13.0.17.18" [Medium,New] 13:44 <seb128> Wimpress, I would wontfix that for 19.10 13:44 <seb128> we don't really care about ppc autopkgtest there at this point 13:45 <Wimpress> Makr won't fix for 19.10 13:46 <Wimpress> Looks like sts are tracking that bug. 13:46 <seb128> yes, I was pondering uploading to focal 13:46 <seb128> but the current patch is an hack adding a sleep 13:46 <seb128> and one of their guy asked to work on a proper fix so I will rather wait for that :) 13:47 <Wimpress> Agreed. 13:47 <Wimpress> seb128: Can you comment accordingly please? 13:47 <seb128> sure 13:48 <Wimpress> Thanks. 13:48 <Wimpress> #topic rls-ff-bugs 13:48 <Wimpress> http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-ff-incoming-bug-tasks.html 13:48 <Wimpress> OK, there's a lot here. 13:48 <marcustomlinson> holy moly 13:48 * Laney cries 13:49 <Wimpress> http://launchpad.net/bugs/1867613 13:49 <ubot5> Ubuntu bug 1867613 in gnome-shell-extension-ubuntu-dock (Ubuntu) "Ubuntu dock does not allow drag and move icons at bottom of screen" [High,Confirmed] 13:49 <Wimpress> Looks like a rls bug to me. 13:50 <seb128> I tagged it, it has some dups 13:50 <Trevinho> I was tracking it anyways though 13:50 <seb128> and even if the bottom of the screen is not the default I saw some comments of users having issues with dock on the left 13:50 <Laney> take it 13:50 <seb128> so I would vote +1 and assigning to Trevinho 13:50 <Wimpress> Done 13:51 <Wimpress> http://launchpad.net/bugs/1867763 13:51 <ubot5> Ubuntu bug 1867763 in gnome-shell (Ubuntu) "gnome-shell crashed with SIGABRT: assertion failure in st_bin_destroy: assertion failed: (priv->child == NULL)" [High,Confirmed] 13:52 <Wimpress> Needs an owner I think. 13:52 <seb128> I vote +1, it has some duplicates and is trivial to trigger (at least on my xps 13) 13:52 <Wimpress> Who wants it? 13:52 <seb128> Trevinho, is that gjs or dock or shell in you opinion? do you have capacity to look at it or should we ask Daniel? 13:52 * Trevinho hides 13:53 <Trevinho> I'm a bit busy... 13:53 <Wimpress> I've assigned to Daniel 13:53 <seb128> thanks 13:54 <Wimpress> http://launchpad.net/bugs/1870046 13:54 <ubot5> Ubuntu bug 1870046 in appstream-glib (Ubuntu) "appstream-glib ftbfs in focal (all archs)" [High,Confirmed] 13:54 <Trevinho> it's likely the dock though, so in case I would steal when i'm about to release the dokc 13:54 <seb128> k, talk to Daniel if needed 13:55 <seb128> Wimpress, wgrant fixed it (I guess because it was in riscv path), https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/appstream-glib/0.7.16-1ubuntu1 13:55 <Wimpress> Is 1870046 release blocking? 13:55 <Wimpress> Marked as fixed released and commented. 13:56 <Wimpress> http://launchpad.net/bugs/1870062 13:56 <ubot5> Ubuntu bug 1870062 in libcmis (Ubuntu) "libcmis ftbfs in focal" [High,Confirmed] 13:56 <seb128> we need to accept the ftbfs ones 13:56 <seb128> so it's just a matter to find assignes 13:57 <Wimpress> Who want libcmis then? 13:57 <Laney> I'll have that one 13:57 <seb128> thanks 13:57 <Wimpress> Thank Laney. 13:58 <Wimpress> launchpad.net/bugs/1870508 13:58 <Wimpress> is rls bug. Who wants it? 13:58 <seb128> was it a one time thing or is it doing it every time? 13:58 <Wimpress> Everytime. 13:59 <seb128> are you sure? 13:59 <jibel> yes 13:59 <seb128> there is no dup and no other comment 13:59 <Wimpress> Can repreoduce everytime. 13:59 <seb128> and 1 affect person 13:59 <seb128> those info should be written on bugs :p 13:59 <jibel> it's the screenreader 13:59 <Wimpress> I've just +1'd it. 13:59 <jibel> there is a test case 13:59 <seb128> jibel, do you want to try to have a go at fixing it? 13:59 <Wimpress> I have comments (no via LP) from community about this. 13:59 <jibel> no 13:59 <seb128> :( 14:00 <seb128> Wimpress, want to take on some bugs to help? ;) 14:00 <seb128> we are going to be short to assign all the things there... 14:00 <seb128> I can put that one on my backlog but I'm already overcommited at this point 14:00 <marcustomlinson> I can try 14:00 <Wimpress> I don't have time this week or next. 14:00 <seb128> but it's the case of most people 14:01 <Wimpress> marcustomlinson: Thanks. 14:01 <seb128> marcustomlinson, thanks 14:02 <Wimpress> http://launchpad.net/bugs/1870758 14:02 <ubot5> Ubuntu bug 1870758 in nvidia-graphics-drivers-440 (Ubuntu) "[nvidia] Display scaling results in monitor power save state" [High,Confirmed] 14:02 <seb128> +1 to take it 14:02 <Wimpress> Yep. 14:02 <Laney> They can be fixed by SRUing and we might want to make use of the milestone feature to express that 14:02 <seb128> Marco thinks it's a driver bug 14:02 <Laney> possibly by doing a separate pass of all the rls bugs 14:02 <Laney> not in this meeting 14:02 <seb128> Laney, good idea 14:03 <Wimpress> So assign it to Daniel for now? 14:03 <seb128> tseliot said he would have a look this week, assign to him 14:03 <seb128> Wimpress, ^ 14:03 <Wimpress> Or just move on? 14:03 <Wimpress> OK 14:03 <Trevinho> yeah, I mean... it didn't happen with previous drivers, and anything changed for non-nvidia... 14:03 <Wimpress> http://launchpad.net/bugs/1871195 14:03 <ubot5> Ubuntu bug 1871195 in gnome-control-center (Ubuntu) "The adaptive layouts aren't working properly" [High,Confirmed] 14:03 <seb128> I suggested that one 14:04 <seb128> see the short video to see the issue 14:04 <seb128> it's looking lame and I would suggest we disable the adaptive layout, it brings little on a desktop and create those issues 14:04 <Wimpress> Sounds senisble. 14:04 <Wimpress> Want to take that one seb128? 14:04 <seb128> kenvandine, could robert look at it? 14:04 <kenvandine> sure 14:04 <seb128> Wimpress, Robert is our gcc maintainer :p 14:05 <seb128> but he can't I can try to have a look 14:05 <Wimpress> Assigned to Robert 14:05 <Wimpress> http://launchpad.net/bugs/1843982 14:05 <ubot5> Ubuntu bug 1843982 in accountsservice (Ubuntu) "Various programs crashed with SIGSEGV in g_str_hash() from g_hash_table_lookup() from update_user()" [High,Triaged] 14:05 <seb128> it has a few duplicates 14:06 <seb128> I vote +1 to take it 14:06 <seb128> it's a gdm segfault, not nice 14:06 <Wimpress> I agree. 14:06 <seb128> upstream also gave some hints to a fix 14:06 <Wimpress> Who would like to take that one? 14:06 <seb128> Laney, sounds like something in your skillset if you have cycles? 14:07 <seb128> that can probably be a SRU 14:07 <seb128> well, maybe it's just doing what upstream suggested and trivial, we should sanity check what he wrote though 14:08 <Laney> I guess so 14:08 <Laney> Probably should be more than the same few people taking all the bugs though 14:08 <seb128> indeed 14:09 <marcustomlinson> I can try this too if kenvandine is fine with me postponing my other work 14:09 <Wimpress> http://launchpad.net/bugs/1870089 14:09 <ubot5> Ubuntu bug 1870089 in yelp (Ubuntu) "yelp ftbfs in focal" [High,Triaged] 14:09 <seb128> that's an easy one, need some appstream update 14:09 <seb128> kenvandine can you maybe take it? 14:10 <seb128> (also update to 3.36 maybe while you are at it, the update is done in Debian an trivial, the build issue is what stopped the upload) 14:11 <Wimpress> Ken wins a bug ;-) 14:11 <Wimpress> http://launchpad.net/bugs/1870356 14:11 <ubot5> Ubuntu bug 1870356 in gnome-control-center (Ubuntu) "Can't connect to paired bluetooth devices via g-c-c" [High,Triaged] 14:11 <kenvandine> yay :) 14:11 <seb128> unsure about that one 14:12 <seb128> it's not new but it sucks 14:12 <seb128> https://www.reddit.com/r/gnome/comments/flpy74/does_anyone_else_see_this_bug_with_bluetooth_ive/?sort=new has stack of users mentioning having the problem and I could confirm 14:12 <seb128> the bluetooth panel generates constant activity which block the pairing to work by creating resource access conflicts 14:12 <seb128> well, not pairing, connecting 14:12 <Wimpress> This feel like a .1 SRU 14:13 <seb128> at the same time it's not new and ... 14:13 <seb128> right, my feeling 14:13 <seb128> do we have a prcoess for that? accept and use milestone? 14:13 <Wimpress> Do we need to give it an owner right now? 14:13 <Wimpress> We don't have a 20.04.1 milestone yet. 14:13 <Wimpress> Who can create those? 14:14 <seb128> that meeting is long enough, let's deal with that after? 14:14 <Wimpress> OK 14:15 <Wimpress> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-shell-extension-desktop-icons/+bug/1844808 14:15 <ubot5> Ubuntu bug 1844808 in gnome-shell-extension-desktop-icons (Ubuntu) "Can't delete file from desktop by clicking it and hitting delete key" [Low,Triaged] 14:15 <seb128> probably also a .1 thing 14:15 <Wimpress> Agree. 14:15 <Wimpress> UPstream dev is working on a fix too. 14:15 <Wimpress> http://launchpad.net/bugs/1870053 14:15 <ubot5> Ubuntu bug 1870053 in gnome-keyring (Ubuntu) "gnome-keyring ftbfs in focal" [Low,Triaged] 14:15 <seb128> hopefully he manages to fix it and is not something to fix in shell 14:16 <seb128> gnome-keyring worked after a retry, a test is flacky 14:16 <Wimpress> OK, move on for now then? 14:16 <seb128> I would just wontfix, we are too busy 14:16 <Wimpress> Done. 14:16 <seb128> flackyness would be nice to resolve but not rls material 14:16 <seb128> thx 14:16 <Wimpress> http://launchpad.net/bugs/1867763 14:16 <ubot5> Ubuntu bug 1867763 in gnome-shell (Ubuntu) "gnome-shell crashed with SIGABRT: assertion failure in st_bin_destroy: assertion failed: (priv->child == NULL)" [High,Confirmed] 14:17 <Wimpress> That however is a rls bug. 14:17 <seb128> we already talked about it 14:17 <seb128> it was listed earlier on gnome-shell 14:17 <Wimpress> http://launchpad.net/bugs/1869897 14:17 <ubot5> Ubuntu bug 1869897 in gnome-shell (Ubuntu) "missing ssh prompt to touch yubikey device when using gnome" [Undecided,New] 14:18 <seb128> wishlist, would be nice to have but I don't see that making it for .0 at this point 14:18 <Wimpress> I agree. 14:18 <seb128> maybe a good .1 candidate 14:19 <Wimpress> http://launchpad.net/bugs/1870259 14:19 <ubot5> Ubuntu bug 1870259 in firefox (Ubuntu) "firefox fullscreen display glitches with hidpi scalingb" [Undecided,New] 14:19 <Laney> we can say rls notfixing don't forget 14:19 <Laney> just saying, feel like we are accepting almost everything this week 14:19 <seb128> sure, all those look important to me 14:19 <Laney> ok 14:20 <seb128> but feel free to state -1 when you feel like we should push back 14:20 <seb128> it's a discussion :) 14:20 <Wimpress> Olivier seems to be tracking the Firefox one. 14:20 <Laney> -1 on that touch bug then 14:20 <seb128> Laney, ubikey one? 14:20 <Laney> indeed 14:21 <Wimpress> http://launchpad.net/bugs/1870600 14:21 <ubot5> Ubuntu bug 1870600 in gnome-control-center (Ubuntu) "permissions pane only shows currently-connected snap interfaces" [Undecided,New] 14:21 <seb128> Wimpress, I would probably vote -1 / notfixing for the firefox one 14:21 <seb128> kenvandine, ^ do you know if that is by design? (the permission one) 14:21 <kenvandine> seb128: i do not know 14:22 <Wimpress> Assign to robert to triage? 14:22 <seb128> Laney, I agree with that, I want a way to flag .1 potential work though before we get them off the list (maybe just using the desktop-lts-wishlist tag?) 14:22 <seb128> I tagged it but I would be happy to have opinions 14:22 <seb128> I think I'm probably -1 for rls 14:22 <seb128> but I wanted to check with the snap people here 14:23 <Wimpress> I'd like to know if the snap permissions one is actually a bug. 14:23 <Wimpress> Making it a .1 is fine by me. 14:24 <marcustomlinson> assign to robert and leave a comment 14:24 <hellsworth> idk if the issue reported is by design or not. makes sense to assign to robert for initial look 14:25 <Wimpress> Done. 14:25 <marcustomlinson> also, I -1 for the yubikey one too, seems edgey 14:25 <Wimpress> http://launchpad.net/bugs/1871069 14:25 <ubot5> Ubuntu bug 1871069 in gnome-system-monitor (Ubuntu) "Speed in network history grossly exaggerated" [Undecided,New] 14:25 <Wimpress> Not rls bug IMO 14:26 <seb128> -1 from me as well 14:26 <Wimpress> Tagged accordingly. 14:26 <kenvandine> thx 14:26 <hellsworth> maybe they could confirm with other networking tools, like iperf 14:26 <Wimpress> http://launchpad.net/bugs/1871329 14:26 <ubot5> Ubuntu bug 1871329 in pulseaudio (Ubuntu) "No "Select Audio Device" panel when plugging headphones, and no sound output to headphones" [Undecided,New] 14:27 <seb128> I think we should accept this one 14:27 <Wimpress> Daniel suggests it is this bug: http://launchpad.net/bugs/1871329 14:27 <ubot5> Ubuntu bug 1871329 in pulseaudio (Ubuntu) "No "Select Audio Device" panel when plugging headphones, and no sound output to headphones" [Undecided,New] 14:27 <seb128> after investigation it looks like it might be an upgrade issue 14:28 <Wimpress> https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1866194 14:28 <ubot5> Ubuntu bug 1866194 in pulseaudio (Ubuntu Focal) "External audio device shows up in the sound output options but the sound keeps being emitted from the internal laptop speaker, or none at all." [High,In progress] 14:28 <Wimpress> That one ^ 14:28 <seb128> I got that reply from upstream 14:28 <seb128> 'I would understand if you need to remove the config once after upgrading to PA 13.99 because the way audio is routed has changed significantly. If there is an old preference left, a stream may always play to that old preferred sink.' 14:28 <seb128> I asked upstream if pulseaudio should then delete its config or migrate it in some way 14:28 <seb128> anyway I think we need to get that sorted out 14:29 <Wimpress> Yep. 14:29 <seb128> so +1 and I'm happy to take assignement 14:29 <hellsworth> i also vote +1 14:29 <Wimpress> Done 14:29 <Wimpress> I have another meeting to get to. 14:30 <Wimpress> Shall we schedule another one of these later this week to review the remaining bugs? 14:30 <hellsworth> sgtm 14:30 <Wimpress> And decide what to do about marking some bugs as .1 14:31 <Wimpress> OK, ending the meeting here. 14:31 <Wimpress> We'll circle back to this. 14:31 <Wimpress> #endmeeting