13:30 <seb128> #startmeeting Desktop Team Weekly Meeting - 2020-03-31
13:30 <meetingology> Meeting started Tue Mar 31 13:30:49 2020 UTC.  The chair is seb128. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology.
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13:31 <hellsworth> o/
13:31 <seb128> Roll call:  didrocks, duflu (out), heather, jamesh (out), jibel, kenvandine, laney, marcustomlinson (out), oSoMoN, tkamppeter, trevinho, robert_ancell (out)
13:31 <marcustomlinson> I'm actually here
13:31 <marcustomlinson> :)
13:31 <oSoMoN> \o
13:31 <seb128> Hey Heather
13:31 <jibel> o~
13:31 <seb128> wb Marcus glad to see you doing better
13:32 <seb128> k, let's get started, I expected everyone is busy with beta coming and snapcraft summit
13:32 <didrocks> hey
13:32 <seb128> #topic rls-bb-bugs
13:32 <marcustomlinson> shouldn't callmepk be on the roll call
13:32 <seb128> http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-bb-incoming-bug-tasks.html
13:32 <marcustomlinson> (sorry derailing. carry on)
13:32 <seb128> no desktop item there
13:32 <seb128> http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-bb-tracking-bug-tasks.html
13:33 <seb128> all assigned
13:33 <seb128> #topic rls-ee-bugs
13:33 <seb128> http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-ee-incoming-bug-tasks.html
13:33 <seb128> no desktop item there
13:33 <seb128> http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-ee-tracking-bug-tasks.html
13:33 <seb128> bug #1733321
13:33 <ubot5> bug 1733321 in network-manager (Ubuntu Focal) "network-manager ADT tests fail with on ppc64el with artful/linux 4.13.0.17.18" [Medium,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1733321
13:33 <seb128> I will take this one
13:34 <seb128> since I'm the by-default nm maintainer atm...
13:34 <seb128> that's it for E
13:34 <seb128> #topic rls-ff-bug
13:34 <seb128> http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-ff-incoming-bug-tasks.html
13:34 <seb128> bug #1866194
13:34 <ubot5> bug 1866194 in pulseaudio (Ubuntu) "[Dell Inspiron 7370] shows up in the sound output options but the sound keeps being emitted from the internal laptop speaker" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1866194
13:34 <seb128> I could confirm the issue now, here
13:35 <seb128> it's a bit weird, g-c-c/totem play through the speakers even after pairing the headset
13:35 <seb128> but paplay / gst-launch go to the headset
13:35 <seb128> anyway
13:35 <seb128> I vote +1 to accept the nomination
13:35 <Laney> yes
13:35 <didrocks> +1
13:35 <seb128> and I will take assignment since I've been providing info to upstream
13:35 <seb128> and I've more testing to do
13:36 <hellsworth> +1
13:36 <seb128> bug #1862081
13:36 <ubot5> bug 1862081 in mutter (Ubuntu) "Gnome resizes framebuffer when playing fullscreen video over and over again (when using X11 fractional scaling)" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1862081
13:37 <seb128> Trevinho, do you think that should be rls tracked?
13:37 <seb128> it's unclear to me from the description the impact
13:37 <seb128> it has 3 dups though
13:38 <Laney> imo this is the kind of bug that should be fixed if the option is promoted to people
13:39 <seb128> I tend to agree
13:39 <seb128> let's nominate it
13:39 <seb128> Trevinho, ^
13:39 <seb128> bug #1865838
13:39 <ubot5> bug 1865838 in gdm3 (Ubuntu Focal) "no error displayed on failed fingerprint authentification" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1865838
13:39 <seb128> untagged now so we can skip it
13:39 <Trevinho> seb128: yeah
13:39 <seb128> (I need to propose a patch to make the report skip milestoned/assigned which still have the tag)
13:40 <seb128> k, next one is to target for Trevinho as well
13:40 <seb128> bug #1867908
13:40 <ubot5> bug 1867908 in wpa (Ubuntu) "Fix RTM NEW/DELLINK IFLA_IFNAME copy for maximum ifname length" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1867908
13:40 <seb128> sounds like worth taking
13:41 <seb128> it has a patch backported from upstream so easy
13:41 <seb128> I will sponsor the upload
13:41 <seb128> bug #1869086
13:41 <ubot5> bug 1869086 in gnome-software (Ubuntu) "Firmware upgrade always notifies to reboot the device even on immediate failure" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1869086
13:41 <Laney> (andrewsh recommends a sync if you didn't see that)
13:42 <seb128> (I didn't but didn't read the details yet, will check that, thanks)
13:42 <seb128> that gnome-software notification
13:42 <seb128> nice to fix but not rls material
13:42 <seb128> it's just a notification
13:42 <seb128> and clicking on firmware update while on battery isn't a daily action
13:42 <seb128> I vote -1
13:42 <hellsworth> i vote not fix
13:43 <marcustomlinson> -1
13:43 <Trevinho> seb128: the bad of it is that it's a standing notification
13:43 <seb128> Trevinho, report it upstream, they might fix it for us even if we don't get to it :)
13:43 <Trevinho> not going away
13:43 <seb128> even if you click 'not now'?
13:43 <Trevinho> fwiw +1 on me :)
13:43 <Laney> It makes you assume that the update succeeded
13:43 <marcustomlinson> we're replacing gnome-software with snap-store in ff
13:43 <Trevinho> well yep... that's the thing
13:44 <seb128> marcustomlinson, I expect snap-store has the same problem
13:44 <marcustomlinson> that's the question
13:44 <seb128> Trevinho, sounds like buggy from the shell that 'not now' doesn't dismiss the notification
13:44 <seb128> Laney, so you vote +1 to take it?
13:44 <hellsworth> even if the same problem is in the snap store and you do an extra reboot, you'll be prompted to start the update again, won't you?
13:44 <Trevinho> seb128: ok not-now does hide it, but it requires an action and the text says you need to do it
13:44 <Laney> I think it's potentially quite misleading
13:44 <Laney> so yes probably, or at least give Robert the action to look into it
13:45 <seb128> kenvandine, opinion as the owner of snap-store? do you think you guys can take on it? should be a simple fix
13:45 <kenvandine> i think it should be simple
13:45 <seb128> k, let's take it
13:45 <seb128> kenvandine, can you assign to whoever is right?
13:45 <seb128> bug #1869635
13:45 <ubot5> bug 1869635 in gnome-shell-extension-ubuntu-dock (Ubuntu) "the menu "Dash to Dock Settings" is visible" [Low,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1869635
13:45 <kenvandine> will do
13:45 <seb128> small thing but same category
13:45 <seb128> (I tagged it)
13:46 <seb128> the item leads to an error about the command not being found as well
13:46 <seb128> Trevinho, can you take on that one, should be easy for you?
13:46 <Trevinho> ah! merge error for sure
13:46 <Trevinho> yeah,
13:46 <seb128> thx
13:46 <Laney> +1 for me
13:46 <seb128> thx
13:46 <Trevinho> it was better if I did leave it broken upstream xD
13:46 <seb128> bug #1868409
13:47 <ubot5> bug 1868409 in ubuntu-meta (Ubuntu) "gnome-{calculator,logs,characters} snaps not removed after the equivalent APT packages are installed on 20.04, and gnome-software APT package not replaced by snap-store" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1868409
13:47 <didrocks> +1 ofc :)
13:47 <Laney> that's already being worked
13:47 <seb128> marcustomlinson is working on that
13:47 <seb128> right
13:47 <seb128> let's take it
13:47 <seb128> bug #1869835
13:47 <ubot5> bug 1869835 in gnome-shell (Ubuntu) "Login screen randomly reverts my default keyboard layout to en-US" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1869835
13:48 <seb128> I didn't notice that problem here
13:48 <seb128> but I've only one layout configured
13:48 <seb128> I would vote +1 if we get more reports
13:48 <didrocks> 2 layouts here as well, no issue
13:48 <didrocks> (both fr)
13:49 <seb128> k, so I vote -1 for now
13:49 <seb128> Olivier upstreamed it
13:49 <seb128> I would put it back on the list if we get other reports though
13:49 <oSoMoN> yeah, fair enough if I'm the only one seeing it
13:49 <jibel> no issue here either with 2 layouts
13:49 <didrocks> oSoMoN: let’s discuss after the report, I have an issue with layout switching, may be related
13:49 <oSoMoN> sure
13:50 <seb128> bug #1868666
13:50 <ubot5> bug 1868666 in gnome-shell (Ubuntu) "gnome-shell crashes when resuming from lock screen [st_widget_remove_accessible_state: assertion 'ST_IS_WIDGET (widget)' failed]" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1868666
13:50 <seb128> it's a champagne/incomplete from previous week that didn't get a follow up
13:50 <seb128> let's skip, I will untag before next meeting if it's not updated
13:51 <seb128> bug #1869747
13:51 <ubot5> bug 1869747 in xorg-server (Ubuntu) "Recent changes have caused Xorg to fail to start. Possibly nvidia driver related." [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1869747
13:52 <hellsworth> seb128: before moving to rls-ff-tracking, could we evaluate a focal bug that i just labeled incoming?
13:52 <seb128> the user submitted with apport now but it didn't get retraced yet/isn't accessible
13:52 <seb128> hellsworth, yes, let me finish the list and I ping you
13:52 <hellsworth> ofc
13:53 <seb128> next one is assigned to marco
13:53 <seb128> will target
13:54 <seb128> bug #1865838
13:54 <ubot5> bug 1865838 in gdm3 (Ubuntu Focal) "no error displayed on failed fingerprint authentification" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1865838
13:54 <hellsworth> we already talked about that one, didn't we?
13:54 <seb128> yes, it's untagged now, the tag was left by error
13:54 <seb128> k, what's the new bug? :)
13:55 <hellsworth> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libreoffice/+bug/1869561
13:55 <ubot5> Ubuntu bug 1869561 in libreoffice (Ubuntu) "Libreoffice Help does not work" [Undecided,Confirmed]
13:55 <hellsworth> basically in 6.4.X libreoffice-help is broken
13:55 <hellsworth> rico found this over the weekend and i did some testing
13:55 <hellsworth> seems like we should fix it
13:55 <seb128> sounds like an important issue yes
13:55 <seb128> +1 from me
13:56 <hellsworth> i agree. +1
13:56 <seb128> k, let's take it
13:56 <oSoMoN> +1
13:56 <seb128> and that's it for incoming
13:56 <Laney> sry got distracted
13:56 <Laney> did everybody else too? :P
13:56 <Laney> WOAH
13:56 <Trevinho> na
13:56 <Trevinho> you bad
13:57 <kenvandine> :)
13:57 <seb128> lol
13:57 <seb128> http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-ff-tracking-bug-tasks.html
13:57 <hellsworth> seb128: so i should change the tag to tracking then?
13:57 <seb128> hellsworth, I'm doing that
13:57 <hellsworth> ah ok. thanks :)
13:57 <seb128> bug #1733321 we already discussed
13:57 <ubot5> bug 1733321 in network-manager (Ubuntu Focal) "network-manager ADT tests fail with on ppc64el with artful/linux 4.13.0.17.18" [Medium,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1733321
13:58 <seb128> bug #1865838 also
13:58 <ubot5> bug 1865838 in gdm3 (Ubuntu Focal) "no error displayed on failed fingerprint authentification" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1865838
13:58 <seb128> bug #1869819
13:58 <ubot5> bug 1869819 in OEM Priority Project "[SRU] System can't detect external headset in the codec of Conexant" [Critical,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1869819
13:58 <Laney> I got all of that: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/8bP6wcppsZ/ in one go
13:58 <seb128> OEM request, they submitted the patch upstream
13:58 <seb128> I vote +1
13:59 <seb128> I will take the task to help them landing it
13:59 <seb128> k
13:59 <seb128> that's it for bugs
13:59 <seb128> #topic update_excuses_by_team.html#desktop-packages
13:59 <seb128> https://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/proposed-migration/update_excuses_by_team.html#desktop-packages
14:00 <marcustomlinson> looks so clean
14:00 <seb128> indeed
14:00 <seb128> nothing to handle there, good work team :)
14:00 <marcustomlinson> well done
14:00 <marcustomlinson> indeed
14:00 <seb128> (the libreoffice one is only because it's not built on all archs yet)
14:00 <seb128> #topic AOB
14:01 <seb128> one topic from me, beta week, please try to help with ISO testing
14:01 <seb128> and do update to focal if you didn't do that yet!
14:01 <marcustomlinson> callmepk should be added to the meeting roll call :)
14:02 <seb128> oh
14:02 <seb128> you said 'callmepk' early, I though it was a typo/weird word :p
14:02 <marcustomlinson> haha
14:02 <seb128> I didn't realize it was Patrick
14:02 <callmepk> umm
14:02 <seb128> I didn't see him active on the channel yet
14:02 <seb128> callmepk, welcome on board!
14:02 <Laney> baptism of 🔥 for a new team member
14:02 <kenvandine> callmepk: welcome!
14:03 <hellsworth> o/ callmepk !
14:03 <callmepk> Sorry for not seeing that, still get familiar with IRC
14:03 <Trevinho> welcome callmepk
14:03 <marcustomlinson> ha isn't it like 10pm for you callmepk
14:03 <marcustomlinson> welcome to the team
14:03 <Laney> Someone should probably talk you through what on earth just happened in here before expecting participation
14:03 <callmepk> Thanks, yep it is 10pm here
14:03 <Trevinho> Something maybe personal, but I've applied for being a desktop team member, so if some other of desktoppers can help with that... :-) https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-desktop/2020-March/006289.html
14:04 <kenvandine> Trevinho: awesome
14:04 <Trevinho> :)
14:04 <oSoMoN> happy to chime in, but I don't remember sponsoring any of your uploads, would my +1 count?
14:05 <seb128> kenvandine, didrocks, can maybe help?
14:05 <pieq> seb128, hey, another question popped in my mind: is it possible to see the release timeline for a given package? I'd like to know what were the latest bluez releases (in 20.04) and, if possible, an associated changelog
14:05 <Trevinho> I guess it does, but don't worry I assume it's better if it is based on facts :)
14:05 <kenvandine> Trevinho: i'll reply
14:05 <seb128> pieq, https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/bluez/+publishinghistory
14:05 <Laney> EOM?
14:06 <seb128> looks like it
14:06 <seb128> thanks team
14:06 <hellsworth> thanks for a short meeting!
14:06 <seb128> #endmeeting