13:30 <seb128> #startmeeting Desktop Team Weekly Meeting - 2020-03-31 13:30 <meetingology> Meeting started Tue Mar 31 13:30:49 2020 UTC. The chair is seb128. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology. 13:30 <meetingology> 13:30 <meetingology> Available commands: action commands idea info link nick 13:31 <hellsworth> o/ 13:31 <seb128> Roll call: didrocks, duflu (out), heather, jamesh (out), jibel, kenvandine, laney, marcustomlinson (out), oSoMoN, tkamppeter, trevinho, robert_ancell (out) 13:31 <marcustomlinson> I'm actually here 13:31 <marcustomlinson> :) 13:31 <oSoMoN> \o 13:31 <seb128> Hey Heather 13:31 <jibel> o~ 13:31 <seb128> wb Marcus glad to see you doing better 13:32 <seb128> k, let's get started, I expected everyone is busy with beta coming and snapcraft summit 13:32 <didrocks> hey 13:32 <seb128> #topic rls-bb-bugs 13:32 <marcustomlinson> shouldn't callmepk be on the roll call 13:32 <seb128> http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-bb-incoming-bug-tasks.html 13:32 <marcustomlinson> (sorry derailing. carry on) 13:32 <seb128> no desktop item there 13:32 <seb128> http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-bb-tracking-bug-tasks.html 13:33 <seb128> all assigned 13:33 <seb128> #topic rls-ee-bugs 13:33 <seb128> http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-ee-incoming-bug-tasks.html 13:33 <seb128> no desktop item there 13:33 <seb128> http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-ee-tracking-bug-tasks.html 13:33 <seb128> bug #1733321 13:33 <ubot5> bug 1733321 in network-manager (Ubuntu Focal) "network-manager ADT tests fail with on ppc64el with artful/linux 4.13.0.17.18" [Medium,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1733321 13:33 <seb128> I will take this one 13:34 <seb128> since I'm the by-default nm maintainer atm... 13:34 <seb128> that's it for E 13:34 <seb128> #topic rls-ff-bug 13:34 <seb128> http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-ff-incoming-bug-tasks.html 13:34 <seb128> bug #1866194 13:34 <ubot5> bug 1866194 in pulseaudio (Ubuntu) "[Dell Inspiron 7370] shows up in the sound output options but the sound keeps being emitted from the internal laptop speaker" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1866194 13:34 <seb128> I could confirm the issue now, here 13:35 <seb128> it's a bit weird, g-c-c/totem play through the speakers even after pairing the headset 13:35 <seb128> but paplay / gst-launch go to the headset 13:35 <seb128> anyway 13:35 <seb128> I vote +1 to accept the nomination 13:35 <Laney> yes 13:35 <didrocks> +1 13:35 <seb128> and I will take assignment since I've been providing info to upstream 13:35 <seb128> and I've more testing to do 13:36 <hellsworth> +1 13:36 <seb128> bug #1862081 13:36 <ubot5> bug 1862081 in mutter (Ubuntu) "Gnome resizes framebuffer when playing fullscreen video over and over again (when using X11 fractional scaling)" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1862081 13:37 <seb128> Trevinho, do you think that should be rls tracked? 13:37 <seb128> it's unclear to me from the description the impact 13:37 <seb128> it has 3 dups though 13:38 <Laney> imo this is the kind of bug that should be fixed if the option is promoted to people 13:39 <seb128> I tend to agree 13:39 <seb128> let's nominate it 13:39 <seb128> Trevinho, ^ 13:39 <seb128> bug #1865838 13:39 <ubot5> bug 1865838 in gdm3 (Ubuntu Focal) "no error displayed on failed fingerprint authentification" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1865838 13:39 <seb128> untagged now so we can skip it 13:39 <Trevinho> seb128: yeah 13:39 <seb128> (I need to propose a patch to make the report skip milestoned/assigned which still have the tag) 13:40 <seb128> k, next one is to target for Trevinho as well 13:40 <seb128> bug #1867908 13:40 <ubot5> bug 1867908 in wpa (Ubuntu) "Fix RTM NEW/DELLINK IFLA_IFNAME copy for maximum ifname length" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1867908 13:40 <seb128> sounds like worth taking 13:41 <seb128> it has a patch backported from upstream so easy 13:41 <seb128> I will sponsor the upload 13:41 <seb128> bug #1869086 13:41 <ubot5> bug 1869086 in gnome-software (Ubuntu) "Firmware upgrade always notifies to reboot the device even on immediate failure" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1869086 13:41 <Laney> (andrewsh recommends a sync if you didn't see that) 13:42 <seb128> (I didn't but didn't read the details yet, will check that, thanks) 13:42 <seb128> that gnome-software notification 13:42 <seb128> nice to fix but not rls material 13:42 <seb128> it's just a notification 13:42 <seb128> and clicking on firmware update while on battery isn't a daily action 13:42 <seb128> I vote -1 13:42 <hellsworth> i vote not fix 13:43 <marcustomlinson> -1 13:43 <Trevinho> seb128: the bad of it is that it's a standing notification 13:43 <seb128> Trevinho, report it upstream, they might fix it for us even if we don't get to it :) 13:43 <Trevinho> not going away 13:43 <seb128> even if you click 'not now'? 13:43 <Trevinho> fwiw +1 on me :) 13:43 <Laney> It makes you assume that the update succeeded 13:43 <marcustomlinson> we're replacing gnome-software with snap-store in ff 13:43 <Trevinho> well yep... that's the thing 13:44 <seb128> marcustomlinson, I expect snap-store has the same problem 13:44 <marcustomlinson> that's the question 13:44 <seb128> Trevinho, sounds like buggy from the shell that 'not now' doesn't dismiss the notification 13:44 <seb128> Laney, so you vote +1 to take it? 13:44 <hellsworth> even if the same problem is in the snap store and you do an extra reboot, you'll be prompted to start the update again, won't you? 13:44 <Trevinho> seb128: ok not-now does hide it, but it requires an action and the text says you need to do it 13:44 <Laney> I think it's potentially quite misleading 13:44 <Laney> so yes probably, or at least give Robert the action to look into it 13:45 <seb128> kenvandine, opinion as the owner of snap-store? do you think you guys can take on it? should be a simple fix 13:45 <kenvandine> i think it should be simple 13:45 <seb128> k, let's take it 13:45 <seb128> kenvandine, can you assign to whoever is right? 13:45 <seb128> bug #1869635 13:45 <ubot5> bug 1869635 in gnome-shell-extension-ubuntu-dock (Ubuntu) "the menu "Dash to Dock Settings" is visible" [Low,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1869635 13:45 <kenvandine> will do 13:45 <seb128> small thing but same category 13:45 <seb128> (I tagged it) 13:46 <seb128> the item leads to an error about the command not being found as well 13:46 <seb128> Trevinho, can you take on that one, should be easy for you? 13:46 <Trevinho> ah! merge error for sure 13:46 <Trevinho> yeah, 13:46 <seb128> thx 13:46 <Laney> +1 for me 13:46 <seb128> thx 13:46 <Trevinho> it was better if I did leave it broken upstream xD 13:46 <seb128> bug #1868409 13:47 <ubot5> bug 1868409 in ubuntu-meta (Ubuntu) "gnome-{calculator,logs,characters} snaps not removed after the equivalent APT packages are installed on 20.04, and gnome-software APT package not replaced by snap-store" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1868409 13:47 <didrocks> +1 ofc :) 13:47 <Laney> that's already being worked 13:47 <seb128> marcustomlinson is working on that 13:47 <seb128> right 13:47 <seb128> let's take it 13:47 <seb128> bug #1869835 13:47 <ubot5> bug 1869835 in gnome-shell (Ubuntu) "Login screen randomly reverts my default keyboard layout to en-US" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1869835 13:48 <seb128> I didn't notice that problem here 13:48 <seb128> but I've only one layout configured 13:48 <seb128> I would vote +1 if we get more reports 13:48 <didrocks> 2 layouts here as well, no issue 13:48 <didrocks> (both fr) 13:49 <seb128> k, so I vote -1 for now 13:49 <seb128> Olivier upstreamed it 13:49 <seb128> I would put it back on the list if we get other reports though 13:49 <oSoMoN> yeah, fair enough if I'm the only one seeing it 13:49 <jibel> no issue here either with 2 layouts 13:49 <didrocks> oSoMoN: let’s discuss after the report, I have an issue with layout switching, may be related 13:49 <oSoMoN> sure 13:50 <seb128> bug #1868666 13:50 <ubot5> bug 1868666 in gnome-shell (Ubuntu) "gnome-shell crashes when resuming from lock screen [st_widget_remove_accessible_state: assertion 'ST_IS_WIDGET (widget)' failed]" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1868666 13:50 <seb128> it's a champagne/incomplete from previous week that didn't get a follow up 13:50 <seb128> let's skip, I will untag before next meeting if it's not updated 13:51 <seb128> bug #1869747 13:51 <ubot5> bug 1869747 in xorg-server (Ubuntu) "Recent changes have caused Xorg to fail to start. Possibly nvidia driver related." [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1869747 13:52 <hellsworth> seb128: before moving to rls-ff-tracking, could we evaluate a focal bug that i just labeled incoming? 13:52 <seb128> the user submitted with apport now but it didn't get retraced yet/isn't accessible 13:52 <seb128> hellsworth, yes, let me finish the list and I ping you 13:52 <hellsworth> ofc 13:53 <seb128> next one is assigned to marco 13:53 <seb128> will target 13:54 <seb128> bug #1865838 13:54 <ubot5> bug 1865838 in gdm3 (Ubuntu Focal) "no error displayed on failed fingerprint authentification" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1865838 13:54 <hellsworth> we already talked about that one, didn't we? 13:54 <seb128> yes, it's untagged now, the tag was left by error 13:54 <seb128> k, what's the new bug? :) 13:55 <hellsworth> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libreoffice/+bug/1869561 13:55 <ubot5> Ubuntu bug 1869561 in libreoffice (Ubuntu) "Libreoffice Help does not work" [Undecided,Confirmed] 13:55 <hellsworth> basically in 6.4.X libreoffice-help is broken 13:55 <hellsworth> rico found this over the weekend and i did some testing 13:55 <hellsworth> seems like we should fix it 13:55 <seb128> sounds like an important issue yes 13:55 <seb128> +1 from me 13:56 <hellsworth> i agree. +1 13:56 <seb128> k, let's take it 13:56 <oSoMoN> +1 13:56 <seb128> and that's it for incoming 13:56 <Laney> sry got distracted 13:56 <Laney> did everybody else too? :P 13:56 <Laney> WOAH 13:56 <Trevinho> na 13:56 <Trevinho> you bad 13:57 <kenvandine> :) 13:57 <seb128> lol 13:57 <seb128> http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-ff-tracking-bug-tasks.html 13:57 <hellsworth> seb128: so i should change the tag to tracking then? 13:57 <seb128> hellsworth, I'm doing that 13:57 <hellsworth> ah ok. thanks :) 13:57 <seb128> bug #1733321 we already discussed 13:57 <ubot5> bug 1733321 in network-manager (Ubuntu Focal) "network-manager ADT tests fail with on ppc64el with artful/linux 4.13.0.17.18" [Medium,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1733321 13:58 <seb128> bug #1865838 also 13:58 <ubot5> bug 1865838 in gdm3 (Ubuntu Focal) "no error displayed on failed fingerprint authentification" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1865838 13:58 <seb128> bug #1869819 13:58 <ubot5> bug 1869819 in OEM Priority Project "[SRU] System can't detect external headset in the codec of Conexant" [Critical,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1869819 13:58 <Laney> I got all of that: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/8bP6wcppsZ/ in one go 13:58 <seb128> OEM request, they submitted the patch upstream 13:58 <seb128> I vote +1 13:59 <seb128> I will take the task to help them landing it 13:59 <seb128> k 13:59 <seb128> that's it for bugs 13:59 <seb128> #topic update_excuses_by_team.html#desktop-packages 13:59 <seb128> https://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/proposed-migration/update_excuses_by_team.html#desktop-packages 14:00 <marcustomlinson> looks so clean 14:00 <seb128> indeed 14:00 <seb128> nothing to handle there, good work team :) 14:00 <marcustomlinson> well done 14:00 <marcustomlinson> indeed 14:00 <seb128> (the libreoffice one is only because it's not built on all archs yet) 14:00 <seb128> #topic AOB 14:01 <seb128> one topic from me, beta week, please try to help with ISO testing 14:01 <seb128> and do update to focal if you didn't do that yet! 14:01 <marcustomlinson> callmepk should be added to the meeting roll call :) 14:02 <seb128> oh 14:02 <seb128> you said 'callmepk' early, I though it was a typo/weird word :p 14:02 <marcustomlinson> haha 14:02 <seb128> I didn't realize it was Patrick 14:02 <callmepk> umm 14:02 <seb128> I didn't see him active on the channel yet 14:02 <seb128> callmepk, welcome on board! 14:02 <Laney> baptism of 🔥 for a new team member 14:02 <kenvandine> callmepk: welcome! 14:03 <hellsworth> o/ callmepk ! 14:03 <callmepk> Sorry for not seeing that, still get familiar with IRC 14:03 <Trevinho> welcome callmepk 14:03 <marcustomlinson> ha isn't it like 10pm for you callmepk 14:03 <marcustomlinson> welcome to the team 14:03 <Laney> Someone should probably talk you through what on earth just happened in here before expecting participation 14:03 <callmepk> Thanks, yep it is 10pm here 14:03 <Trevinho> Something maybe personal, but I've applied for being a desktop team member, so if some other of desktoppers can help with that... :-) https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-desktop/2020-March/006289.html 14:04 <kenvandine> Trevinho: awesome 14:04 <Trevinho> :) 14:04 <oSoMoN> happy to chime in, but I don't remember sponsoring any of your uploads, would my +1 count? 14:05 <seb128> kenvandine, didrocks, can maybe help? 14:05 <pieq> seb128, hey, another question popped in my mind: is it possible to see the release timeline for a given package? I'd like to know what were the latest bluez releases (in 20.04) and, if possible, an associated changelog 14:05 <Trevinho> I guess it does, but don't worry I assume it's better if it is based on facts :) 14:05 <kenvandine> Trevinho: i'll reply 14:05 <seb128> pieq, https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/bluez/+publishinghistory 14:05 <Laney> EOM? 14:06 <seb128> looks like it 14:06 <seb128> thanks team 14:06 <hellsworth> thanks for a short meeting! 14:06 <seb128> #endmeeting