== Meeting information ==
 * #ubuntu-desktop: Desktop Team Weekly Meeting - 2020-03-17, 17 Mar at 14:31 — 15:19 UTC
 * Full logs at [[http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-desktop/2020/ubuntu-desktop.2020-03-17-14.31.log.html]]



== Meeting summary ==

=== rls-bb-bugs ===
The discussion about "rls-bb-bugs" started at 14:32.

  * ''LINK:'' http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-bb-incoming-bug-tasks.html 
  * ''LINK:'' http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-bb-tracking-bug-tasks.html 

=== rls-ee-bugs ===
The discussion about "rls-ee-bugs" started at 14:35.

  * ''LINK:'' http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-ee-incoming-bug-tasks.html 
  * ''LINK:'' http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-ee-tracking-bug-tasks.html 

=== rls-ff-bugs ===
The discussion about "rls-ff-bugs" started at 14:36.

  * ''LINK:'' http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-ff-incoming-bug-tasks.html 

=== update_excuses_by_team.html#desktop-packages ===
The discussion about "update_excuses_by_team.html#desktop-packages" started at 15:11.

  * ''LINK:'' https://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/proposed-migration/update_excuses_by_team.html#desktop-packages 

=== AOB ===
The discussion about "AOB" started at 15:16.




== Vote results ==




== Done items ==

 * (none)



== People present (lines said) ==

 * seb128 (117)
 * ubot5 (19)
 * Laney (19)
 * hellsworth (10)
 * kenvandine (7)
 * didrocks (6)
 * Trevinho (5)
 * meetingology (3)
 * oSoMoN (2)
 * tjaalton (2)



== Full Log ==


 14:31 <seb128> #startmeeting Desktop Team Weekly Meeting - 2020-03-17

 14:31 <meetingology> Meeting started Tue Mar 17 14:31:08 2020 UTC.  The chair is seb128. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology.

 14:31 <meetingology> 

 14:31 <meetingology> Available commands: action commands idea info link nick

 14:31 <didrocks> hey

 14:31 <Trevinho> o/

 14:31 <seb128> Roll call:  didrocks, duflu (out), heather, jamesh (out), jibel, kenvandine, Laney, marcustomlinson (out), oSoMoN, tkamppeter, trevinho, robert_ancell (out)

 14:31 <kenvandine> o/

 14:31 <hellsworth> \o

 14:31 <oSoMoN> hey ho

 14:32 <seb128> I hope everyone is doing fine despite viruses, lockdowns, etc

 14:32 <seb128> let's get started, IRC meetings are still a safe place :)

 14:32 <seb128> #topic rls-bb-bugs

 14:32 <hellsworth> lol yes they are

 14:32 <seb128> http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-bb-incoming-bug-tasks.html

 14:32 <seb128> no desktop one

 14:33 <seb128> http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-bb-tracking-bug-tasks.html

 14:33 <seb128> bug #1855893

 14:33 <ubot5> bug 1855893 in pulseaudio (Ubuntu Bionic) "Properly let PCM leave suspended state when hardware doesn't support PCM resume" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1855893

 14:34 <seb128> where I got a reply from oem saying it's ok to drop the targetting

 14:34 <seb128> doing that

 14:35 <seb128> #topic rls-ee-bugs

 14:35 <seb128> http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-ee-incoming-bug-tasks.html

 14:35 <seb128> no desktop entry

 14:35 <seb128> http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-ee-tracking-bug-tasks.html

 14:35 <seb128> nothing interesting there

 14:36 <seb128> #topic rls-ff-bugs

 14:36 <seb128> http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-ff-incoming-bug-tasks.html

 14:37 <seb128> bah, another 'interesting' round this week I guess

 14:37 <seb128> bug #1862081

 14:37 <ubot5> bug 1862081 in mutter (Ubuntu) "Gnome resizes framebuffer when playing fullscreen video over and over again (when using X11 fractional scaling)" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1862081

 14:37 <Trevinho> seb128: yeah, i've it in my list already

 14:37 <Trevinho> rls at this point

 14:38 <seb128> Trevinho, k, please take assignment then

 14:38 <seb128> thanks :)

 14:38 <seb128> bug #1867548

 14:38 <ubot5> bug 1867548 in gnome-control-center (Ubuntu) "Right Alt key is suddenly switched off after invoking Settings - Keyboard Shortcuts in Focal" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1867548

 14:39 <seb128> Gunnar tagged it

 14:39 <Laney> probably seems worthwhile

 14:39 <seb128> yeah, I tend to agree on +1

 14:40 <seb128> k, let's accept it and move on

 14:40 <seb128> bug #1865563

 14:40 <ubot5> bug 1865563 in yaru-theme (Ubuntu) "password box not centered" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1865563

 14:40 <seb128> that was fix commited but of course Daniel disagrees with that use of the status

 14:40 <Laney> 🙄

 14:41 <seb128> I say +1, doesn't matter much anyway since it's going to land when GNOME 3.36 lands and yaru is updated

 14:41 <didrocks> yeah, the general idea is "it's done"

 14:41 <didrocks> right

 14:41 <seb128> bug #1865838

 14:41 <ubot5> bug 1865838 in gdm3 (Ubuntu) "no error displayed on failed fingerprint authentification" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1865838

 14:41 <seb128> so oem belives we should fix it and we like oem so I think we should accept it

 14:42 <kenvandine> of course we like oem :)

 14:42 <Trevinho> so, mine as well...

 14:42 <seb128> Trevinho, thanks!

 14:42 <seb128> bug #1866044

 14:42 <didrocks> +1 indeed

 14:42 <ubot5> bug 1866044 in gnome-shell (Ubuntu) "gnome-shell crashed with signal 5 in clutter_box_layout_allocate() when enable-animations=false" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1866044

 14:42 <seb128> another one that is fix commited/waiting on 3.36 to land

 14:42 <didrocks> yep

 14:42 <seb128> next one is assigned to Marco, just needs to target

 14:43 <seb128> bug #1807276

 14:43 <ubot5> bug 1807276 in gnome-shell (Ubuntu) "Cannot open Onscreen Keyboard in Xorg" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1807276

 14:43 <seb128> the bug isnt new/recent

 14:44 <seb128> would be nice to debug but at this point I don't think I would rls nominate

 14:44 <seb128> other opinions?

 14:44 <Laney> agreed

 14:44 <didrocks> +1

 14:45 <seb128> thanks, let me -notfixing for now

 14:45 <seb128> (time to enjoy my launchpad fix :p)

 14:45 <hellsworth> i agree not fixing

 14:45 <Laney> it would be good to fix osk / 2-in-1 bugs but that would have to be a specified project I think rather than rls bug fixing

 14:46 <seb128> right

 14:46 <seb128> bug #1867080

 14:46 <ubot5> bug 1867080 in mutter (Ubuntu) "[radeon] No mouse cursor drawn in Wayland session" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1867080

 14:47 <seb128> it's fixed upstream

 14:47 <seb128> so let's move on

 14:47 <Laney> fix the tags at least

 14:47 <seb128> yeah, did that and added a comment

 14:48 <kenvandine> maybe we should have a tag for 2-in-1 bugs?

 14:48 <Laney> thx

 14:48 <seb128> kenvandine, I wouldn't be suprised if there is already one

 14:48 <seb128> will look after the meeting

 14:49 <seb128> bug #1866275 we +1ed and I failed to target it looks like

 14:49 <ubot5> bug 1866275 in gnome-shell (Ubuntu) "Password overlay dialogue breaks during screen lock while overlay present" [Low,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1866275

 14:49 <kenvandine> we might want to do an organized round of 2-in-1 work

 14:49 <seb128> doing that now

 14:49 <seb128> bug #1865865  is fix commited according to Trevinho's report

 14:49 <ubot5> bug 1865865 in gnome-shell-extension-ubuntu-dock (Ubuntu) "Icon spring animation starts/ends in the wrong location (near the top of the dock) " [Low,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1865865

 14:49 <Laney> I've been noticing the accepted bugs not nominated, is that because you are batching it to do so later?

 14:50 <Trevinho> seb128: in new release yes

 14:50 <seb128> Laney, yes, seems like otherwise I fail to see timeout and such, trying new technique to just keep the action for end of meeting

 14:50 <seb128> at least for nominations

 14:50 <Laney> ok

 14:50 <Laney> just wondering if that is why that ^ one came back

 14:51 <seb128> I need to write a bot/tool to the actions :p

 14:51 <seb128> anyway

 14:51 <seb128> bug #1850960

 14:51 <ubot5> bug 1850960 in gnome-terminal (Ubuntu) "Coming back from suspend, tabs and window are broken" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1850960

 14:52 <seb128> it's on 19.10 and I didn't see that reported before

 14:53 <Laney> indeed

 14:53 <seb128> not rls material imho, so voting -1

 14:53 <seb128> I will reply with some questions/details after the meeting

 14:53 <seb128> and rls-not-fixing

 14:54 <seb128> bug #1864127 I reassigned to snapd now, should have done that before

 14:54 <ubot5> bug 1864127 in chromium-browser (Ubuntu) "apparmor denies ~/snap/chromium/ writes" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1864127

 14:54 <seb128> bug #1866194

 14:54 <ubot5> bug 1866194 in pulseaudio (Ubuntu) "After connecting an external output device (USB audio interface, Bluetooth speaker...), it shows up in the sound output options but the sound keeps being emitted from the internal laptop speaker" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1866194

 14:54 <seb128> we said we would revisit

 14:55 <seb128> kenvandine, thanks for commenting, I see you got a reply and it's not due to bluetooth

 14:55 <seb128> but on devices connect/disconnect

 14:56 <seb128> I think we should keep an eye on it but notfixing for now

 14:56 <seb128> until/unless it's confirmed to be either frequent or a regression

 14:56 <seb128> other opinions?

 14:56 <kenvandine> i've only seen it once

 14:57 <Laney> imho we should assign it to Robert (g-c-c) or Daniel (pulseaudio) for some further investigation, and they can Won't Fix the task if it is somehow hw specific

 14:57 <Laney> but I've certainly seen some flakiness there myself so I believe there is probably an actual issue

 14:57 <hellsworth> +1 on Laney's suggestion

 14:58 <kenvandine> i'd suspect pulseaudio

 14:58 <seb128> k

 14:59 <seb128> done

 14:59 <seb128> bug #1866616

 14:59 <ubot5> bug 1866616 in linux (Ubuntu) "[amdgpu] 2nd display stopped working" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1866616

 15:00 <seb128> seems a pretty specific issue

 15:00 <seb128> I would vote -1 for rls targetting

 15:00 <Laney> ok, but tjaalton ^- you might want to see it

 15:02 <tjaalton> adding a question..

 15:02 <seb128> thanks

 15:02 <seb128> bug #1866890

 15:02 <ubot5> bug 1866890 in alsa-driver (Ubuntu) "audio card not detected after upgrade to 20.04 (Only Dummy Output appears)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1866890

 15:03 <seb128> looks like a duplicate of bug #1860697 which is confirmed/owned by the oem team

 15:03 <ubot5> bug 1860697 in linux (Ubuntu) "Sound doesn't work on Lenovo X1 Carbon 7th with 20.04" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1860697

 15:04 <seb128> I'm going to mark it dup

 15:04 <seb128> bug #1862028

 15:04 <ubot5> bug 1862028 in ubuntukylin-meta (Ubuntu) "Focal uses the exfat fuse filesystem even though there is support in the kernel" [Undecided,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1862028

 15:05 <seb128> there is an non answered question there

 15:05 <hellsworth> should that be "even though there is no support in the kernel"?

 15:05 <hellsworth> oh no

 15:05 <hellsworth> it just reads weird

 15:05 <seb128> :)

 15:05 <Laney> it's on our list because of what

 15:05 <Laney> udisks2?

 15:05 <seb128> k, so that previous bug, we never installed that package by default

 15:06 <seb128> yeah, probably should be invalid there

 15:06 <Laney> indeed

 15:06 <seb128> k, doing that and moving on

 15:06 <seb128> one shell one assigned to Trevinho

 15:06 <seb128> need targetting though

 15:07 <seb128> bug #1864274

 15:07 <ubot5> bug 1864274 in mesa (Ubuntu) "crunchy pixels" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1864274

 15:07 <hellsworth> there's a workaround

 15:07 <seb128> ^ tjaalton should that be accepted for focal nomination?

 15:09 <seb128> k, while he comes back to me on that, moving

 15:09 <Laney> I've got to move in a minute to be in the right place for a call

 15:10 <seb128> bug #1865221 we discussed and I forgot to tag edit, doing now

 15:10 <ubot5> bug 1865221 in gnome-shell (Ubuntu) "Workspace switcher scaling up and down depending on the number of active workspaces" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1865221

 15:10 <tjaalton> seb128: yes

 15:10 <seb128> Laney, k, no problem

 15:10 <seb128> tjaalton, thanks

 15:10 <Laney> pretty sure we said last week we would notfix those three bugs

 15:10 <Laney> biab!

 15:11 <seb128> yeah, I was going to say

 15:11 <seb128> I probably failing to finish my queued task

 15:11 <seb128> I need to better handle those meetings with a stack of action

 15:11 <seb128> ok

 15:11 <seb128> that should be for bugs then

 15:11 <seb128> #topic update_excuses_by_team.html#desktop-packages

 15:11 <seb128> https://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/proposed-migration/update_excuses_by_team.html#desktop-packages

 15:12 <seb128> the world is blocked behind icu

 15:12 <hellsworth> thats the truth of it

 15:13 <seb128> icu seems to get there, but still need at least webkit2gtk, php7.4 and ruby resolved

 15:13 <seb128> webkit2gtk being ours

 15:13 <seb128> I will poke at that today

 15:13 <seb128> other things on proposed migration

 15:13 <seb128> libnotify/0.7.9-1ubuntu1: i386 (log, history)

 15:14 <seb128> that one needs to be investigated

 15:14 <seb128> gcr fails to build due to a test failing (but works on Debian, unsure what the difference is)

 15:15 <seb128> libgphoto2/2.5.24-1: i386 (log, history)

 15:15 <seb128> the test does a build which fails since i386 went away, need to look at fixing cross building

 15:15 <seb128> pygobject/ubiquity is the librsvg issue mentioned earlier and oSoMoN is looking at it

 15:15 <seb128> I will card those on trello ^

 15:16 <oSoMoN> and I have a fix in the works

 15:16 <seb128> if anyone want to help please feel free to add yourself to a card

 15:16 <seb128> oSoMoN, great

 15:16 <seb128> #topic AOB

 15:16 <seb128> ohter topics?

 15:16 <hellsworth> none from me

 15:18 <kenvandine> nope

 15:18 <seb128> seems not

 15:19 <seb128> sorry for the long meeting and thanks for sticking up and participating in the bugs review!

 15:19 <seb128> #endmeeting



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