14:31 #startmeeting Desktop Team Weekly Meeting - 2020-02-04 14:31 Meeting started Tue Feb 4 14:31:20 2020 UTC. The chair is seb128. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology. 14:31 14:31 Available commands: action commands idea info link nick 14:31 Roll call: didrocks, duflu (out), heather, jamesh (out), jibel, kenvandine, laney (out), marcustomlinson, oSoMoN, tkamppeter, trevinho, robert_ancell (out) 14:31 o/ 14:31 \o 14:31 \o 14:31 o/ 14:32 hey again 14:32 \o 14:32 good, seems like we have quite some people around :) 14:32 let's get started then 14:32 #topic rls-bb-bug 14:33 no desktop item 14:33 http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-bb-tracking-bug-tasks.html 14:34 only n-m there than we still didn't sort out 14:34 #topic rls-dd-bug 14:34 http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-dd-incoming-bug-tasks.html 14:34 no d! 14:34 oh right! 14:35 oh, uh, indeed 14:35 #topic rls-ee-bug 14:35 thx :) 14:35 http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-ee-incoming-bug-tasks.html 14:35 no desktop item 14:35 http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-ee-tracking-bug-tasks.html 14:35 n-m is the only unassigned which isn't fix commited 14:35 #topic rls-ff-bug 14:36 http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-ff-incoming-bug-tasks.html 14:36 bug #1861481 14:36 bug 1861481 in accountsservice (Ubuntu) "language-options causes live CD sessions to be untranslated" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1861481 14:36 that's a bug leading to the live session not showing translated on some flavors with some locales 14:37 I would vote -1 for rls tracking since it's not impacting Ubuntu Desktop itself and only live session/with some locales 14:37 doesn't seem rls for our team but you tagged it so maybe can explain why 14:37 Gunnar is looking at it and hopefully he gets it fixed though 14:37 nod 14:38 I think I did that at fosdem because I didn't read properly and though at the time it impact out live session :p 14:38 sorry for the noise 14:38 tagging -notfixing now 14:39 http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-bb-tracking-bug-tasks.html 14:39 sorry 14:39 http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-ff-tracking-bug-tasks.html 14:39 that seems buggy? 14:39 hmm 14:39 yeah looks odd 14:40 no bugs \o/ 14:40 haha 14:40 I will ping Brian about it, but let's skip that one for now then 14:41 #topic champagne bugs? 14:41 https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bugs?field.tag=champagne&orderby=-id&start=0 14:41 it's still unclear to me how those are supposed to be handled and I feel like that needs to be sorted out before we team review them 14:42 I've also tried to at least triage them as them come during the week 14:43 o/ 14:43 hey Wimpress 14:44 Wimpress, do you want to weight in about the champagne bugs thing? 14:44 unsure what we are expected to be doing there 14:44 should we review our set only as we do for other bugs? 14:44 is the goal to triage and milestone/discard as we do for rls? 14:45 Well, this is new ground. So I think we get to decide how we process this stuff. 14:46 I made a proposal in an email but didn't get any feedback on it. 14:46 I think it would be good to update which packages are affecvted if that information is not correct. 14:46 Oh! 14:46 * Wimpress looks at email... 14:46 It'll probably be buried 14:46 let's do that post meeting? doesn't feel like something we should block the team on atm 14:47 But it's basically to treat it like rls-ff-incoming 14:47 (1) we already have a process to handle that, and (2) it means the bugs go to the right teams 14:47 yes good idea 14:47 also as said I triaged the curent list so we don't really have a backlog to deal with, unless we want to do +1/-1 voting 14:47 +1 on Laney's proposal 14:47 +1 14:47 +1 14:48 +1 14:48 Perhaps tag as rls-ff-incoming as appropriate too 14:48 good, let's follow up with Brian/other teams then 14:48 Yep 14:48 seems we are voting, so +1 :p 14:48 Wimpress, let's discuss it in our hangout a bit later? 14:48 I was thinking modify the report to look at that tag 14:48 yes ok 14:48 OK 14:48 k, sounds like enough for the topic for now then 14:48 thx 14:48 #topic update_excuses_by_team.html#desktop-packages 14:48 those LP lists of bugs aren't the best - the script's view is nicer I think 14:48 indeed 14:49 https://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/proposed-migration/update_excuses_by_team.html#desktop-packages 14:49 Laney, want to do that one this week or should I do it again since I've been keeping an eye on things recently? 14:49 seb128: probably you have a better view on this atm 14:49 k 14:49 I just know that python3 is screwing everything this time 14:49 archive breakage of the week 14:49 so lot of python3-defaults blocked items there 14:50 Do we need any additional info from other teams to unblock that stuff Laney? 14:50 a stack of gobject-introspection issues that are going to clear off now that L_aney landed a fixed version and that gcc has been fixed (need retries with right triggers which I'm doing) 14:50 tjaalton, are we making any progress on openscad/s390x? 14:51 I debugged the network-manager one and upstream has a PR fix up for review which I tested/is working so I expect that to clear off this week 14:51 marcustomlinson: wasn't a new libreoffice uploaded to proposed? 14:51 e-d-s regressed on i386 due to an upload not pushed that got reverted, will be fixed 14:52 libreoffice had an out-of-space issue crop up during the python3.8 rebuild that's fixed now AND looks like yesterdays build issue with g-i is fixed too, so hopefully that'll unblock a bit 14:52 and I think that's basically it 14:52 #topic AOB 14:52 any other topic? 14:53 Wimpress: proposed? not in particular I don't think 14:53 nothing for me 14:53 Nothing else from me. 14:54 Just to say we had a catch up with the Yaru team last night. 14:54 k, just a reminder that ff is approching then 14:54 All good there. 14:54 In shape for 20.04. 14:54 planning a release soon? 14:54 Need to merge some upstream changes, then I think so. 14:54 speaking of 14:55 it looks like we didn't land much feature work yet so probably a good time to increase focus on getting things lined up 14:55 Trevinho: some gnome-shell/mutter verification still to do fyi 14:55 Trevinho, and please start or 3.35.90 whenever you can 14:55 ack 14:55 I will do some of the apps/initial setup/etc in the next days 14:56 seb128: no, I'm not able to launch a s390x instance on canonistack, filed an issue but it's still open 14:57 Wimpress, ^ are you maybe able to raise priority of that RT in the queue? 14:57 Laney: as per the SRU I'm waiting on feedback though (https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-shell/+bug/1845281/comments/18) 14:58 Ubuntu bug 1845281 in mutter (Ubuntu Eoan) "gnome-shell crashed with SIGABRT in __GI_raise() from __GI_abort() from g_assertion_message() from g_assertion_message_expr() from meta_window_get_workspaces() [assertion failure "code should not be reached"]" [Medium,Fix committed] 14:58 tjaalton: Please forward me the RT details via email, and I'll see what I can do. 14:58 Wimpress, thx 14:58 ok, let's call it a wrap, those discussions can continue post meeting 14:58 thanks team! 14:58 #endmeeting