14:31 <seb128> #startmeeting Desktop Team Weekly Meeting - 2020-02-04 14:31 <meetingology> Meeting started Tue Feb 4 14:31:20 2020 UTC. The chair is seb128. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology. 14:31 <meetingology> 14:31 <meetingology> Available commands: action commands idea info link nick 14:31 <seb128> Roll call: didrocks, duflu (out), heather, jamesh (out), jibel, kenvandine, laney (out), marcustomlinson, oSoMoN, tkamppeter, trevinho, robert_ancell (out) 14:31 <hellsworth> o/ 14:31 <oSoMoN> \o 14:31 <marcustomlinson> \o 14:31 <Trevinho> o/ 14:32 <didrocks> hey again 14:32 <kenvandine> \o 14:32 <seb128> good, seems like we have quite some people around :) 14:32 <seb128> let's get started then 14:32 <seb128> #topic rls-bb-bug 14:33 <seb128> no desktop item 14:33 <seb128> http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-bb-tracking-bug-tasks.html 14:34 <seb128> only n-m there than we still didn't sort out 14:34 <seb128> #topic rls-dd-bug 14:34 <seb128> http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-dd-incoming-bug-tasks.html 14:34 <Laney> no d! 14:34 <hellsworth> oh right! 14:35 <seb128> oh, uh, indeed 14:35 <seb128> #topic rls-ee-bug 14:35 <seb128> thx :) 14:35 <seb128> http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-ee-incoming-bug-tasks.html 14:35 <seb128> no desktop item 14:35 <seb128> http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-ee-tracking-bug-tasks.html 14:35 <seb128> n-m is the only unassigned which isn't fix commited 14:35 <seb128> #topic rls-ff-bug 14:36 <seb128> http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-ff-incoming-bug-tasks.html 14:36 <seb128> bug #1861481 14:36 <ubot5> bug 1861481 in accountsservice (Ubuntu) "language-options causes live CD sessions to be untranslated" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1861481 14:36 <seb128> that's a bug leading to the live session not showing translated on some flavors with some locales 14:37 <seb128> I would vote -1 for rls tracking since it's not impacting Ubuntu Desktop itself and only live session/with some locales 14:37 <Laney> doesn't seem rls for our team but you tagged it so maybe can explain why 14:37 <seb128> Gunnar is looking at it and hopefully he gets it fixed though 14:37 <Laney> nod 14:38 <seb128> I think I did that at fosdem because I didn't read properly and though at the time it impact out live session :p 14:38 <seb128> sorry for the noise 14:38 <seb128> tagging -notfixing now 14:39 <seb128> http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-bb-tracking-bug-tasks.html 14:39 <seb128> sorry 14:39 <seb128> http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-ff-tracking-bug-tasks.html 14:39 <seb128> that seems buggy? 14:39 <marcustomlinson> hmm 14:39 <marcustomlinson> yeah looks odd 14:40 <Laney> no bugs \o/ 14:40 <seb128> haha 14:40 <seb128> I will ping Brian about it, but let's skip that one for now then 14:41 <seb128> #topic champagne bugs? 14:41 <seb128> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bugs?field.tag=champagne&orderby=-id&start=0 14:41 <seb128> it's still unclear to me how those are supposed to be handled and I feel like that needs to be sorted out before we team review them 14:42 <seb128> I've also tried to at least triage them as them come during the week 14:43 <Wimpress> o/ 14:43 <seb128> hey Wimpress 14:44 <seb128> Wimpress, do you want to weight in about the champagne bugs thing? 14:44 <seb128> unsure what we are expected to be doing there 14:44 <seb128> should we review our set only as we do for other bugs? 14:44 <seb128> is the goal to triage and milestone/discard as we do for rls? 14:45 <Wimpress> Well, this is new ground. So I think we get to decide how we process this stuff. 14:46 <Laney> I made a proposal in an email but didn't get any feedback on it. 14:46 <Wimpress> I think it would be good to update which packages are affecvted if that information is not correct. 14:46 <Wimpress> Oh! 14:46 * Wimpress looks at email... 14:46 <Laney> It'll probably be buried 14:46 <seb128> let's do that post meeting? doesn't feel like something we should block the team on atm 14:47 <Laney> But it's basically to treat it like rls-ff-incoming 14:47 <Laney> (1) we already have a process to handle that, and (2) it means the bugs go to the right teams 14:47 <Laney> yes good idea 14:47 <seb128> also as said I triaged the curent list so we don't really have a backlog to deal with, unless we want to do +1/-1 voting 14:47 <Wimpress> +1 on Laney's proposal 14:47 <marcustomlinson> +1 14:47 <hellsworth> +1 14:48 <oSoMoN> +1 14:48 <Wimpress> Perhaps tag as rls-ff-incoming as appropriate too 14:48 <seb128> good, let's follow up with Brian/other teams then 14:48 <Wimpress> Yep 14:48 <didrocks> seems we are voting, so +1 :p 14:48 <seb128> Wimpress, let's discuss it in our hangout a bit later? 14:48 <Laney> I was thinking modify the report to look at that tag 14:48 <Laney> yes ok 14:48 <Wimpress> OK 14:48 <seb128> k, sounds like enough for the topic for now then 14:48 <seb128> thx 14:48 <seb128> #topic update_excuses_by_team.html#desktop-packages 14:48 <Laney> those LP lists of bugs aren't the best - the script's view is nicer I think 14:48 <seb128> indeed 14:49 <seb128> https://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/proposed-migration/update_excuses_by_team.html#desktop-packages 14:49 <seb128> Laney, want to do that one this week or should I do it again since I've been keeping an eye on things recently? 14:49 <Laney> seb128: probably you have a better view on this atm 14:49 <seb128> k 14:49 <Laney> I just know that python3 is screwing everything this time 14:49 <Laney> archive breakage of the week 14:49 <seb128> so lot of python3-defaults blocked items there 14:50 <Wimpress> Do we need any additional info from other teams to unblock that stuff Laney? 14:50 <seb128> a stack of gobject-introspection issues that are going to clear off now that L_aney landed a fixed version and that gcc has been fixed (need retries with right triggers which I'm doing) 14:50 <seb128> tjaalton, are we making any progress on openscad/s390x? 14:51 <seb128> I debugged the network-manager one and upstream has a PR fix up for review which I tested/is working so I expect that to clear off this week 14:51 <hellsworth> marcustomlinson: wasn't a new libreoffice uploaded to proposed? 14:51 <seb128> e-d-s regressed on i386 due to an upload not pushed that got reverted, will be fixed 14:52 <marcustomlinson> libreoffice had an out-of-space issue crop up during the python3.8 rebuild that's fixed now AND looks like yesterdays build issue with g-i is fixed too, so hopefully that'll unblock a bit 14:52 <seb128> and I think that's basically it 14:52 <seb128> #topic AOB 14:52 <seb128> any other topic? 14:53 <Laney> Wimpress: proposed? not in particular I don't think 14:53 <didrocks> nothing for me 14:53 <Wimpress> Nothing else from me. 14:54 <Wimpress> Just to say we had a catch up with the Yaru team last night. 14:54 <seb128> k, just a reminder that ff is approching then 14:54 <Wimpress> All good there. 14:54 <Wimpress> In shape for 20.04. 14:54 <Laney> planning a release soon? 14:54 <Wimpress> Need to merge some upstream changes, then I think so. 14:54 <Laney> speaking of 14:55 <seb128> it looks like we didn't land much feature work yet so probably a good time to increase focus on getting things lined up 14:55 <Laney> Trevinho: some gnome-shell/mutter verification still to do fyi 14:55 <seb128> Trevinho, and please start or 3.35.90 whenever you can 14:55 <Trevinho> ack 14:55 <seb128> I will do some of the apps/initial setup/etc in the next days 14:56 <tjaalton> seb128: no, I'm not able to launch a s390x instance on canonistack, filed an issue but it's still open 14:57 <seb128> Wimpress, ^ are you maybe able to raise priority of that RT in the queue? 14:57 <Trevinho> Laney: as per the SRU I'm waiting on feedback though (https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-shell/+bug/1845281/comments/18) 14:58 <ubot5> Ubuntu bug 1845281 in mutter (Ubuntu Eoan) "gnome-shell crashed with SIGABRT in __GI_raise() from __GI_abort() from g_assertion_message() from g_assertion_message_expr() from meta_window_get_workspaces() [assertion failure "code should not be reached"]" [Medium,Fix committed] 14:58 <Wimpress> tjaalton: Please forward me the RT details via email, and I'll see what I can do. 14:58 <seb128> Wimpress, thx 14:58 <seb128> ok, let's call it a wrap, those discussions can continue post meeting 14:58 <seb128> thanks team! 14:58 <seb128> #endmeeting