14:30 <seb128> #startmeeting Desktop Team Weekly Meeting - 2020-01-28 14:30 <meetingology> Meeting started Tue Jan 28 14:30:11 2020 UTC. The chair is seb128. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology. 14:30 <meetingology> 14:30 <meetingology> Available commands: action commands idea info link nick 14:30 <seb128> Roll call: didrocks, duflu (out), heather, jamesh (out), jibel, kenvandine, laney (out), marcustomlinson, oSoMoN, tkamppeter, trevinho, robert_ancell (out) 14:30 <didrocks> hey 14:30 <jibel> hola 14:30 <hellsworth> o/ 14:31 <Trevinho> o/ 14:31 <marcustomlinson> \o 14:31 <diddledan> seeing as I'm here, I'll lurk interloper-style :-p 14:31 <oSoMoN> 🤧/ 14:31 <kenvandine> o/ 14:31 <kenvandine> hey diddledan 14:31 <diddledan> \o/ 14:31 <seb128> nice, let's got started 14:31 <seb128> #topic rls-bb-bugs 14:32 <seb128> (proper order is back this week :p) 14:32 <seb128> http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-bb-incoming-bug-tasks.html 14:32 <seb128> no desktop entry 14:33 <seb128> http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-bb-tracking-bug-tasks.html 14:33 <seb128> only the nm ones we still didn't sort out 14:33 <seb128> #topic rls-ee-bugs 14:33 <seb128> http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-ee-incoming-bug-tasks.html 14:33 <seb128> no desktop entry 14:34 <seb128> http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-ee-tracking-bug-tasks.html 14:34 <seb128> nm only 14:34 <seb128> #topic rls-ff-bugs 14:34 <seb128> http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-ff-incoming-bug-tasks.html 14:34 <seb128> bug #1857815 14:34 <ubot5> bug 1857815 in cups-filters (Ubuntu) "cups-browsed assert failure: corrupted double-linked list" [High,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1857815 14:34 <seb128> that's assigned to tkamppeter 14:34 <seb128> I need to try if .27 maybe fixes it? 14:35 <tkamppeter> Tried to reproduce on a clean FF VM, but I had 1.26.2 and all the reporter 1.26.0 or 1.26.1. 14:36 <tkamppeter> Perhaps 1.26.2 already solved it and therefore I cannot reproduce it. 14:36 <tkamppeter> None of 1.26.2 or 1.27.0 has an explicit fix, only some improvements in general stability against crashes. 14:36 <seb128> tkamppeter, yeah, from the report it looks like .1 has it but .2 not 14:37 <seb128> so let's see if reports stop, I will try with the update and close if it is resolved 14:37 <seb128> thx tkamppeter 14:37 <seb128> http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-ff-tracking-bug-tasks.html 14:37 <seb128> n-m unassigned and that's it 14:37 <seb128> ok, easy for bugs today 14:37 <hellsworth> champagne bugs? 14:38 <seb128> good point 14:38 <seb128> I'm currently unconvinced that we figured out the proper way to deal with that 14:38 <seb128> I looked at the list yesterday and it's mostly hardware enablement, server, linux issue 14:39 <seb128> I will skip for today and chat with Martin, we can talk about it again next week if that's ok for everyone? 14:39 <hellsworth> it would be useful to filter out the desktop bugs, similar to rls-ff-tracking does 14:39 <hellsworth> sounds good to me 14:39 <seb128> yes, but then I would suggest we just use the existing tag... 14:40 <seb128> but yeah, details to be figured out, I don't think we can resolve that here/today without Martin though 14:40 <seb128> next 14:40 <oSoMoN> +1 to defer to next week 14:40 <seb128> #topic update_excuses_by_team.html#desktop-packages 14:40 <seb128> https://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/proposed-migration/update_excuses_by_team.html#desktop-packages 14:40 <seb128> k, so that's a long/noisy list atm 14:40 <seb128> mostly d_oko piling transitions 14:41 <seb128> so I think we need to wait for things to settle down to have some visibily on real problems vs transition noise 14:41 <seb128> some real ones we could/should look though 14:41 <seb128> tjaalton, can you bump the priority to get mesa sorted out? we can't just let it sit there forever 14:42 <seb128> it needs someone (you probalby) to figure out what make software rendering buggy on s390x 14:42 <seb128> also some libsdl build issues on armhf/i386? 14:42 <seb128> 14:42 <tjaalton> seb128: i've reproduced it on debian porterbox 14:42 <tjaalton> next would be to try the same on git master 14:42 <seb128> good first step I guess? 14:42 <seb128> thx for looking at it! 14:42 <tjaalton> so I'll push that to experimental 14:43 <seb128> thx 14:43 <seb128> network-manager I'm looking at that one 14:43 <seb128> the rest is python changes ongoing, tiff transition and new items that didn't settle down yet 14:44 <seb128> so I think that's it for now on that section 14:44 <seb128> #topic AOB 14:44 <seb128> any other topic? 14:44 <tkamppeter> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/chromium-browser/+bug/1838038 14:44 <ubot5> Ubuntu bug 1838038 in snapd "[snap] Snapped apps do not work with .local mdns/avahi name resolution" [Medium,Triaged] 14:44 <tkamppeter> This bug is a big problem for snaps. 14:44 <seb128> kenvandine, ^ 14:44 <tkamppeter> In a snap .local host names are not resolved. 14:45 <tkamppeter> Not only for LibreOffice but also for my CUPS snap. 14:45 <kenvandine> yeah 14:45 <kenvandine> there is a post about that on the forum 14:45 <tkamppeter> See my comments at the end. 14:45 <seb128> thx tkamppeter 14:45 <tkamppeter> https://forum.snapcraft.io/t/chromium-does-not-work-with-local-mdns-avahi-name-resolution 14:45 <tkamppeter> This one. 14:46 <seb128> right 14:46 <seb128> thx tkamppeter for raising that one up 14:47 <seb128> kenvandine, might be worth a trello card if we belive it's important, so we don't loose it? 14:47 <kenvandine> sounds like something that needs to happen on the host? 14:47 <tkamppeter> s/LibreOffice/chromium/ 14:48 <tkamppeter> Seems so, as a workaround is installing nscd or unscd on the host. 14:48 <seb128> we want a proper solution 14:49 <tkamppeter> yes 14:49 <seb128> kenvandine, james suggested 'adjusting the network plug to grant access to /var/run/avahi-daemon/socket).' on the forum discussion 14:49 <kenvandine> i saw that 14:49 <seb128> probably something to talk to jamie/the snap team about? 14:49 <seb128> anyway, not to resolve now 14:49 <kenvandine> but there was also installing nscd on the host 14:49 <seb128> I feel like it's worth a card in the backlog maybe, but it's your trello board so your decision :) 14:49 <kenvandine> yeah 14:49 <kenvandine> i'll add it 14:50 <seb128> thx 14:50 <seb128> I don't think we are going to resolve it now so not much point to argue the details 14:50 <seb128> it's unclear to me if nss-mdns is enough or if nscd is needed 14:51 <seb128> maybe a topic to discuss in frankfurt 14:51 <seb128> anyway 14:51 <seb128> other topics? 14:52 <seb128> seems not, that's a wrap then, thanks everyone! 14:52 <seb128> #endmeeting