14:34 <kenvandine> #startmeeting Desktop Team Weekly Meeting -2020-01-21
14:34 <meetingology> Meeting started Tue Jan 21 14:34:35 2020 UTC.  The chair is kenvandine. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology.
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14:34 <kenvandine> Roll call:  didrocks, duflu (out), jamesh (out), jibel, kenvandine, laney (out), marcustomlinson, oSoMoN, seb128 (out), tkamppeter, trevinho, robert_ancell (out), Wimpress (out), hellsworth
14:34 <marcustomlinson> \o
14:34 <oSoMoN> o/
14:34 <seb128> hey
14:34 <hellsworth> o/
14:35 <kenvandine> quiet day :)
14:36 <kenvandine> lets dive in
14:36 <kenvandine> #topic rls-ff-bugs
14:36 <didrocks> hey
14:36 <kenvandine> http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-ff-incoming-bug-tasks.html
14:37 <seb128> urg, starting in reverse order
14:37 * seb128 is destabilized
14:37 <kenvandine> lol
14:37 <kenvandine> that's the order in my template :)
14:37 <kenvandine> tkamppeter is working on the cups-browsed bug
14:38 <kenvandine> bug 1859610
14:38 <ubot5> bug 1859610 in pygobject (Ubuntu Focal) "python-gi/arm64 segfaults with the focal-proposed libffi version" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1859610
14:38 <kenvandine> do we want to take that?
14:38 <seb128> that's fixed in proposed
14:38 <seb128> I will update the bug
14:38 <kenvandine> oh, thanks
14:39 <seb128> tkamppeter, do you need more info for the cups one? it's suprising that you can't reproduce, did you try to a fresh focal install?
14:39 <tkamppeter> seb128, I have tried on an FF virtual machine, and there I did not get this crash.
14:39 <seb128> :(
14:40 <tkamppeter> The configuration there is the standard one.
14:40 <tkamppeter> I have a little bit the feeling that it is somewhere deep in Avahi.
14:40 <seb128> try maybe in an env without printer available?
14:40 <seb128> avahi didn't change in years though
14:41 <seb128> the reports statted with the focal update of cups-filters
14:41 <seb128> kenvandine, anyway, let's not me delay the meeting on that one, we can discuss after the meeting
14:41 <kenvandine> yeah
14:41 <tkamppeter> yes, Avahi's maintainer has no time to do further development :(
14:41 <kenvandine> http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-ff-tracking-bug-tasks.html
14:43 <kenvandine> what's up with the NM bug there?
14:43 <kenvandine> bug 1733321
14:43 <ubot5> bug 1733321 in network-manager (Ubuntu Focal) "network-manager ADT tests fail with on ppc64el with artful/linux 4.13.0.17.18" [Medium,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1733321
14:43 <kenvandine> that's old, but added focal and friends last month
14:43 <kenvandine> guess we don't have anyone to work on it anyway
14:44 <seb128> we said we would review the NMs one in a manager meeting but still didn't
14:44 <seb128> I recommend we skip them again this week
14:44 <kenvandine> skipped :)
14:44 <kenvandine> #topic rls-ee-bugs
14:44 <kenvandine> nothing incoming
14:45 <kenvandine> http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-ee-tracking-bug-tasks.html
14:45 <seb128> only nm that we are skipping I think?
14:45 <kenvandine> the unassigned mutter bug, which is in proposed
14:46 <kenvandine> so moving on
14:46 <kenvandine> #topic rls-bb-bugs
14:46 <kenvandine> bug 1855893
14:46 <ubot5> bug 1855893 in pulseaudio (Ubuntu) "Properly let PCM leave suspended state when hardware doesn't support PCM resume" [Medium,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1855893
14:47 <seb128> we agreed on track it, I assigned but failed to nominate it looks like, I'm going to fix that now
14:47 <kenvandine> should that still be incoming?
14:47 <kenvandine> thanks
14:47 <kenvandine> http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-bb-tracking-bug-tasks.html
14:48 <kenvandine> just NM
14:48 <kenvandine> that's it
14:48 <Laney> just noted that down
14:49 <Laney> in the notes for that meeting
14:49 <Laney> to visit there
14:49 <kenvandine> hey Laney
14:49 <Laney> yo
14:49 * Laney can't see screen very well
14:49 <kenvandine> want to talk autopackage?
14:49 <kenvandine> or skip this week
14:50 <Laney> i havent looked, sorry about that, this is the first time I opened my laptop today :(
14:50 <Laney> maybe seb128 is up to date tho
14:50 <kenvandine> no worries
14:50 <seb128> what?
14:50 <Laney> excuses
14:50 <seb128> I lost context
14:50 <seb128> are you refering to proposed migration? if so yes I can handle that part
14:50 <kenvandine> yes
14:51 <Laney> wait we didn't do any -incoming?
14:51 <kenvandine> yes we did ;)
14:51 <seb128> Ken started in reverse order
14:51 <seb128> we just finish with bionic :p
14:51 <kenvandine> yeah, sorry :)
14:51 <seb128> sorry I didn't see your "autopackage" mention
14:51 <seb128> #topic update_excuses_by_team.html#desktop-packages
14:51 <Laney> oh yeah you just linked the ff one only ;-)
14:52 <kenvandine> #topic update_excuses_by_team.html#desktop-packages
14:52 <seb128> thx
14:52 <seb128> so it's going to be easy
14:52 <seb128> $biglist which is due mostly to
14:53 <seb128> - python-gi/armhhf being broken unless you manually retry with a right list of triggers
14:53 <seb128> - libffi soname transition
14:54 <seb128> - build-essential:amd64 not being installable breaking all the i386 tests
14:54 <seb128> those things are being worked on and not specific to us
14:55 <seb128> in the real issue issues there is openscad/s390x which I've been trying to argue we should skip even if it's a real bug because we don't support graphical stack on s390x
14:55 <seb128> gscan2pdf/arm64 seems to be hanging, Laney  was looking at that
14:55 <Laney> yes
14:55 <Laney> i didn't get back to it today though sorry
14:56 <seb128> the new n-m made tests unhappy, I plan to look at that since I did the update
14:56 <seb128> glib
14:56 <seb128> xdg-desktop-portal: i386
14:56 <seb128> is also my fault and I will fix
14:56 <seb128> and I think that's it
14:56 <kenvandine> ok
14:56 <kenvandine> #topic aob
14:57 <seb128> A reminder that updates are due on discourse on monday, if you have monday off best to post the friday before
14:58 <seb128> (that stands also for people travelling, I forgot as well and took a note to do it on friday next time before leaving)
14:58 <kenvandine> indeed, with a long weekend it can be hard to remember what you did :)
14:58 <kenvandine> anything else?
14:59 <seb128> I don't think so
14:59 <kenvandine> going... going...
14:59 <Trevinho> all good here
14:59 <seb128> the mid-cycle sprint is going well so far, no surprise nor change of plans
14:59 <kenvandine> yay
14:59 <seb128> bonjourno Trevinho  :)
14:59 <kenvandine> #endmeeting